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• R.J. CarterJanuary 15, 2013 - 8:03 am

  Dear Ashley...Deers & birds??..If you care to actually read the 2nd Amendment, you'll find that it has absolutely nothing to do with hunting...

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• DarrinJanuary 15, 2013 - 12:13 pm

  The Second, nor any other Amendment, addresses terrorists, social media, tv, or atomic bombs. Things have changed in 200+ years. Hence the need for amendments. Time the Second got changed a bit.

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• Kirk MacKenzieJanuary 15, 2013 - 1:34 pm

  Ms Blinn -- Good questions. I disagree about knowing the limits of the 1st Amendment...it has been *refined* by the Judicial branch since the beginning. The same is true for every phrase in the Constitution. The case law is thick and dense. What I'd like to see is a reconciliation of the founding documents and current law.

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• Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 18, 2013 - 7:17 am

  Darrin, changing the 2nd Amendment requires 2/3 of the house, 2/3 of the senate, and 3/4 of the states to be agree with you. Think you've got that much agreement?

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• Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 18, 2013 - 7:37 am

  And Darrin, you can have my atomic bomb when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers ;^)

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• Tom GibneyJanuary 18, 2013 - 9:05 am

  Darrin, perhaps we need to ammend the 1st Ammendment? Lets say to stop hate speech...or Bullying on line...or so people won't say those nasty things about Obama...? Just a thought...Ya I didn;t think you would agree.

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• R.J. CarterJanuary 18, 2013 - 10:43 am

  When referring to a new NRA ad Gov Cristie said it was it "reprehensible" and "don't drag people's children into this gun debate"....Meanwhile his new best-buddy King Obama was surrounded by children as he signed 23 new executive stripping our 2nd Amendment rights...Go figure???....

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• R.J. CarterJanuary 18, 2013 - 10:45 am

  "executive orders"

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• Chuck CostaJanuary 18, 2013 - 10:56 am

  How many bullets are enough? Well, perhaps we can pass a law that only one person at a time can invade your home to rob you. But because criminals don't care about laws, three people hit your door armed and wanting money, drugs or whatever. Your guns are only allowed three bullets because of course, you're are a law abiding citizen just wanting to protect yourself. You miss with the first shot so can we also pass a rule that allows for a re-loading "time out"? Too late, you and perhaps a loved one are dead. For those that think that the second amendment is about hunting, you are sadly misinformed. You are right, in most cases, a trained hunter will only need one shot to take down a dear. But the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It has everything to do with protecting ones self against harm from criminals or a tyrannical government. I'm not a hunter, and those dear that frequent my land every day have nothing to worry about. I don't view them as the threat. My concern is for those two legged animals that wish harm against me or my family. Restricting gun ownership or creating some arbitrary ammo restrictions doesn't make anyone safer except the criminals.

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• James E.January 18, 2013 - 11:49 am

  Thinking about bullets. How above charging $10,000 for each bullet. This would cause shooters to be very selective in how they use them. Just a thought. Probably not a good thought.

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• DeeJanuary 18, 2013 - 12:17 pm

  Longhofer, the next time someone tells you that the military will protect citizens from the Government you might want to refer them to "Challengers from the Sidelines:Understanding America's Violent Far Right" issued this week by the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y. The paper alerts us to “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, which supports “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.” --------------The paper is written by Arie Perliger, who directs the center’s terrorism studies and teaches social sciences at West Point. Here is the link is to the paper:http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/challengers-from-the-sidelines-understanding-americas-violent-far-right-------------------------The paper is over 180 pages. Interesting reading.

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• Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 18, 2013 - 12:38 pm

  James, I wouldn't put it past one of our esteemed legislators to propose this. The issue would easily be circumvented by the black market that would arise and fill the void. We have very efficient black markets today for illegal dope, and this syndicate is successfully operated by some of the dumbest people in society; dope-heads and common criminals (many of whom own and use illegal firearms and are thus the cause for much concern amongst gun-phobes). An ammo black market would be no problem for intelligent and enterprising folks to set up and operate.

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• MartinJanuary 18, 2013 - 4:15 pm

  What the real problem is protection from our government. They won’t be busting down your door brandishing a BB gun, so if you believe in protection from tyranny you best have that 100 round clip available. All of this is about one thing, disarm America and for this to happen they have to start somewhere, kill the 2nd amendment would be a great start; register all your weapons so that when they decide that you no longer need your weapons they will know where to come. Sounds very familiar to the 1930s; and you all know what happen then. Just to be on the safe side I think that they need to take and shove there anti gun proposals where the sun doesn’t shine.

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• James E.January 18, 2013 - 4:55 pm

  Martin, and when you've expended your 100 round clip? What then?

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• jon schroderJanuary 18, 2013 - 5:40 pm

  It`s americans own ignorance of their constitution that is making america so easy to destroy.

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• RichardJanuary 18, 2013 - 6:32 pm

  I know James E., they pee their pants, fall to their knees with apologies punctuated by squeals about the cuffs being too tight. Gun control is coming, get used to it.

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• Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 18, 2013 - 7:30 pm

  Sorry Rich(ard), the only misdirected urine stream is that which has blown back on your shoes while pi$$ing in the wind about gun control. It takes a lot more than a liberal socialist governor and a lying, narcissistic socialist president with the executive order. And you happen to live in a county with a conservative sheriff, who is the highest elected officer in the county. Sorry Sparky, No one's taking our guns here. BTW Did you turn yours in yet? Be a good little socialist bobo and do it. Right after you wipe the urine from your shoes.

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• Grown up gun ownerJanuary 18, 2013 - 9:02 pm

  Nothing this last guy/girl said makes any sense in the real world. And I bet he’s real going to be mad when a black guy takes his assault type gun away, limits his availability of ammo, limits his available to magazines, and makes him use his real name the next time he purchases a gun. As a grown up, I have personally decided to cancel my NRA membership, as a once proud group it stands for nothing now, has no credibility and is the laughing stock of our nation. Reading his/hers post again realized it has the makings of a great country western song. Please, Please, Pleaseessss don’t take my guns away Mr. Black man sir, I need them to…...... god and the sheriff said I could have them ……my pickup truck got took by the socialist………..., just needs a couple of notes, a fiddle and for him/her to fill in the blanks. Where do people like this come from?

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• Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 19, 2013 - 8:01 am

  Hmmmm, I WAS listening to a country song when I composed that last post...coincidence? ;^)

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 9:38 am

  "I think we all know the limits of the 1st Amendment." ********** Ashley, I'd be really glad if you'd outline those limits as you understand them.

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• Jeff-PlacervilleJanuary 19, 2013 - 2:40 pm

  Ashley, the tired broken record post above believes what the NRA tells her, don’t waste your time.

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 3:02 pm

  Hi Jeff. I'm wondering where you have seen me reference the NRA. But given that Ashley may be hard pressed to answer my question, you've given her good advice.

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• Phil VeerkampJanuary 19, 2013 - 3:27 pm

  Good afternoon, Jeff I’m just checking in again – thought you might like to know that all is well with me and the Missus. Neither of us has heard from your friend Agent Brown, Jeff. The Missus is concerned. She suspects your real name is Manti Te'o. Jeff, you can trust us. It will be our little secret. Are you really Manti Te'o? It’s OK to have imaginary friends, Mr. Te'o.

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• Gun showJanuary 19, 2013 - 6:37 pm

  Another reason not to allow gun shows at our Fair Grounds(Reuters) - Three people including a retired sheriff's deputy were wounded on Saturday at a gun show in North Carolina when a 12-gauge shotgun accidentally discharged as its owner was taking it out of its case, state officials said.

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 6:55 pm

  A VAGUELY ANALOGOUS FOLLOW-ON TO "GUN-SHOW": 1. The majority of vehicle accidents happen close to home. ∴ People should be prohibited from driving home. 2. U.S. Census figures show that in 2009 there were 3,081 traffic fatalities on Calif. roads. ∴ cars should be prohibited from driving on Calif. roads.

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• New restrictionsJanuary 19, 2013 - 6:55 pm

  Last Post, you left out that even though three people were badly wounded the gun show was allowed to go on with new restrictions: No private gun sales will be allowed and personal guns will not be allowed on the property. Gun control is coming red necks, get used to it.

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 7:01 pm

  CONROE, TX (KTRK) -- A 70-year-old woman died Saturday after she was struck by a car at a Conroe car wash, police said. HERE (Keep cars out of car washes.)

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 7:05 pm

  FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) -- A Coarsegold teen was killed today when he skateboarded down a steep hill and hit a car. HERE

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 7:09 pm

  Gun Owner Saves Cop’s Life by Shooting Deranged Gunman! Brown County Sheriff Bobby Grubbs later said, “The citizen that fired these shots did a tremendous job out there. Had he not had a gun and the presence of mind to do this, we don’t know what the outcome would’ve been.” HERE

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 7:11 pm

  "Gun control is coming red necks, get used to it." ~ 6:55 pm (My neck ain't red, boy!)

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• EvelynJanuary 19, 2013 - 7:13 pm

  MORAL OF THE STORY: Rarely can anything be proven by one citation.

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• DB SmithJanuary 19, 2013 - 8:20 pm

  Thank you Evelyn! Mr. Gun Show sounds a lot like Mr. Jeff and used a very poor example to try and dissuade gun shows at our fair grounds.

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• Not In My CountyJanuary 19, 2013 - 9:45 pm

  Gun Show sounds like Mr Jeff who sounds like New restrictions who also sounds like Richurd. Actually, all these dolts sound alike ;^) Now , for those gun-phobes who missed it, Sheriff D'Agostini was reported today as having written a letter to VP Joe BiteMe telling him to take any executive orders he and his fellow executives might pass which would infringe upon the 2nd Amendment rights of the residents of El Dorado County, and shove 'em. He is now one of over a hundred county Sheriffs around the country to do this. As the highest elected official in the county, he is the first and last word in law enforcement here. The only gun controls that are enforced in any county are ones the sheriff of that county will himself enforce. No federal agency can legally usurp or supersede his authority. Paddy O'Furniture is glad he lives in a conservative county with a conservative sheriff who takes his oath of office seriously :)

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• JedJanuary 20, 2013 - 9:40 pm

  Top Republicians and Democrats express confidence Sunday that Congress will pass significant gun-control legislation.

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• Gun Control NOW!January 20, 2013 - 10:05 pm

  One Million Moms for Gun Control was founded to demand action NOW to: 1) Ban assault weapons and ammunition magazines of more than 10 rounds. 2) Require background checks for all gun purchasers. 3) Report the sale of large quantities of ammunition to the ATF. 4) Limit the scope of concealed weapons laws at the state level. If you would prefer to donate by using a check, please mail to: One Million Moms for Gun Control PO Box 347 Zionsville, Indiana 46077

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