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EDITOR:
To run one 125 volt/15 amp /1875 watt air conditioner for 19 hours you will need a minimum of eight batteries; you need 12 batteries total for the required reserve. To keep these charged you have to have a minimum of five hours of sun per day. This alone will require 70 solar panels (1,000 square feet of panels); because of the continuous draw on your batteries the life expectancy will be cut in half, so you will have to replace them approximately every four years. The cost is going to be approximately $354.00 per month for one air conditioner for 20 years. This doesn’t cover maintenance and battery replacement.
If you want to live off the grid like a hermit, go for it. I don’t know what you are going to cook with unless you use carbon emission products; you certainly can use solar to dry your clothes on a clothesline and you can use solar to heat your water and take a warm shower during the summer. Or you can use the creek for taking a bath (without soap, you don’t want any yellow-legged frogs to mutate).
I forgot to mention you can have your installation subsidize, this will require your friends and the rest of us taxpayers to pay for it; if that doesn’t bother you go for it.
MARTIN SCHUMANN
Placerville
Such an angry pessimistic man
Tin Man, actual information would be more persuasive.
Look it up yourself, I did and this is the true cost. Solar companies want you to believe that it is advantages to invest all this money for a big return when in actuality there is no return.
Do the math; this monthly cost includes all the original installation fees including panels/battery replacement and interest and principle on the loan if not subsidized.
Sounds like a cause Our Dear Leader should take up. Force all households to go solar preparatory to the possibility of a blackout. Then one day we’ll have domestic energy – IF we can procure sufficient batteries and IF we haven’t already dedicated all available funds to the purchase of ObamaCARE.
Having solar does not mean going off the grid. Batteries are not used in 99% of modern PV installations.
Martin, what a moron. writes a letter to the editor every day trying to start pissing matches. The question is, why do you feel the need to defend what you wrote? why comment on your own letter? If it was indeed ‘fact filled’ then it should stand on its own with no need to defend. But we get it, you are pissed off at the world. FACE IT IDIOT. THE WORLD IS EVOLVING AND YOU ARNEN’T.
Make sure it is a passive solar design. You don’t know how many structures w/ solar panels on them I see where the panels don’t face the south! Don’t have gadgets that have little lights on them all the time (control bars, electric alarm clocks, the clock on your microwave). Use solar in conjunction with wind.
hydro: What’s your (prospective?) stake in wind farms? I read they’re a nightmare for residents living near them and are pretty much a scam. Care to comment?
You must be solar power sales rep; they are the only ones that would be pissed at someone trying to enlighten the future solar power users. Do the research prior investing in the Obama dream is all that I am saying. I will save your unnamed comment for my apathetic file.
QUOTE: “As candidate and president, on eight separate occasions Barack Obama instructed Americans to “think about what’s happening in countries like Spain [and] Germany” if they wanted to know what successful “green jobs” policies look like, and if they wanted to know what we should expect here in the U.S. from his agenda.
Some European economists took a look. In March, a research team from Madrid’s King Juan Carlos University produced a detailed, substantive, heavily sourced, two-method paper: “Study of the Effects on Employment of Public Aid to Renewable Energy Sources.” The paper concluded that Spain’s “green jobs” program was an economic failure, in fact costing Spain many jobs. By revealing the truth about Spain’s increasingly mythologized “green jobs” and renewable energy experience, the revealed study threatened the prospects for Spain’s companies to be bailed out by the U.S. repeating these mistakes.
After the Spanish study embarrassed the White House, prompting substantial media attention and even questioning at a press conference, Obama swapped out Denmark for Spain for later references to an enacted “green jobs” program.
Soon, Denmark produced a study (“Wind Energy: The Case of Denmark“) through the think-tank CEPOS. This paper also revealed tremendous costs, and that Obama’s claim about Denmark’s “renewables” experience was also steeped in mythology.
Soon, the Obama administration published a five-page talking points memo assailing the economic assessment — written by two young, non-economist, pro-wind activists from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) in Boulder, Colorado.
NREL is an extension of the Department of Energy’s Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). EERE is run by Assistant Secretary of Energy Cathy Zoi, who, until assuming this post, served as CEO to Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection.” @ http://pjmedia.com/blog/breaking-anti-lobbyist-obama-administration-recruited-left-wing-lobbyists-to-sell-bogus-green-jobs/?singlepage=true
Stupid Google, don’t they know that Obama Energy doesn’t work, it’s too expensive.
“Google announced that it’s investing $94 million in solar panel farms in the Sacramento area.” “The money will go toward four photovoltaic, or PV, panel farms. The investment pushes Google’s portfolio of clean energy investments to more than $915 million, $880 million of which has been invested since January.”
Google has already committed to providing funding this year to help more than 10,000 homeowners install solar PV panels on their rooftops, and in part will be part of a larger scale solar PV power plants that generate energy for the grid — instead of on individual rooftops.” The effort will produce about 88 megawatts of power, or about the amount of energy needed to power “the electricity consumed by more than 13,000 homes.” Know wonder McClintock spends so much time bashing solar, it could get in the way of that dam hes promised to build.
It’s a good thing we have Martin to guide us. He’s way smarter than Google. He likes to keep his AC blasting continuously for 19 consecutive hours. Dude- close the door!
1. martin has posted this letter(or a variation) at least 2 if not 3 + times.
2. he was wrong the first time and he is wrong now.
3. he will say prove him wrong but what is the point, he is ignorant will remain ignorant and ignorant feeble minded people will buy into his garbage. in fact he is ignorant of his own ignorance. no point wasting anymore time.
4. it is all about the united nations infiltrating america and pushing the socialist agenda of President Obama, and they are coming after your guns, dredges, 4×4 trucks, your dirt bikes, snow mobiles jet skis and they will force you to move into a 30 story building being constructed at the east end of broadway. remember, that is how hitler and the nazis did it all the while forcing you to buy a health insurance policy or face death squads(panels) hunting you down. soylent green is people. the matrix is real and so is bigfoot. GORT LIVES!
Tinman you’re so full of yourself! Why don’t you use your name; you’re the kind that hides behind a mask to state your thoughts.
Write something shows your intellect or is this best you can do. .
Tinman, you pretty much got it right, except for #3. I don’t think that anyone is buying into Martin’s craziness. There are a couple of other psychos out there who believe in similar paranoid nonsense, but they don’t need Martin to convince them.
Can you imagine the first settlers saying “It will take MONTHS of walking to get across the country.” or the railroad “A train can’t climb the Rockies. They’re too steep.” or how about BP with the Gulf spill, “The shut off value was suppose to prevent this from happening. We will never get it shut off.”….. Thank HEAVENS this country wasn’t built on people with Martin’s attitude. The answer will be found….and OIL Companies and their cheerleaders (such as Martin) will squawk all the way…
Boy don’t we have a bunch of cracker cases out there? Your left wing agenda is putting us in bankruptcy, the state of California is 48th in unemployment. The only thing that the left wing has done right is hummmm can’t think of anything. You kids can play with words all that you want; this article is based on fact 1800 watts of electric is going to cost you . Your brow beating is doing nothing to change the situation that we are in.
Why don’t you come up with some facts to show that your green solar and wind power agenda works economically; instead of saying BS stuff? Pull yourself out of your dung pile that you have gotten us into and show us a green thing that actually works, you can show our neighbors that are all going under due to the overzealous investing in wind and solar also.
Tinman, I find your name calling of Martin offensive. Can you politely disagree without being insulting? Do you not have any respect for anybody who has an opinion different than yours? Resorting to name calling means you have already lost the debate.
Martin, your entire objection revolves around battery storage. It is not a critique of solar power generation. 1800 watts is a very small amount to produce with solar. You can do it with just 2 panels. I have 24 panels. My system has already paid for itself and now my electricity is free. I have air conditioning as well as all other modern comforts. I do not have batteries and have no desire to disconnect from the grid. I know of no serious solar advocate who wants to get rid of the grid. Sorry but you are way off on this issue.
As someone else points out, the Dumbocrat keeps printing Martin Schumann’s same letter in spite of the fact that the man does not know what he is writing about.
I’ve been on solar power for 11 years; two central air units to cool down a 3250 sq.ft house, a big pool and a hot tub: we use lots of electricity.
Forty solar panels and a PG&E meter that runs forward and backward, depending on whether or not I produce or consume power; the installation has no moving parts and the panels are guaranteed a certain minimum efficiency for 40 years.
For the past three years, my total combined PG&E bill has been $137.00. As I replace old, inefficient appliances with more efficient ones, I expect that in this, and future years, my bills will be zero or PG&E will owe me.
My net cost for the system in 2001 was $22,000, after state and federal rebates. I recouped my $22,000 2 years ago. Even without the rebates, I would have installed the system for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that it makes economic sense over the long term.
Luddites like Mr. Schumann need to get out of the way of progress; the days of the oil lamp and steam power are over.
My apologizes to all; sorry about spouting off prior further study, the information that I received was apparently bogus. John your comment was appreciated; at least you had the time to comment in a factual way. I retract the information that I so blatantly presented; I learned a valuable lesson.
Martin, your exemplary response is a lesson for all of us. Open minded learning is encouraged precisely by examples of open hearted civility such as you have demonstrated. Thank you.