Friday, April 18, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

CAO sweeping mistake under rug

EDITOR:

At a recent Board of Supervisors meeting, the $509,646 Retiree Health Insurance mistake was quietly swept under the rug on the Consent Calendar.

At a previous Board of Supervisors meeting on April 23, Assistant CAO Kim Kerr had represented the huge financial problem to the board, but never accepted any responsibility. Attached to the recent board agenda item was another duplicate copy of the e-mail from County Auditor Joe Harn, CPA, asking for an explanation as to how the mistake happened and who was responsible for the mistake. No such explanation or responsibility was given to the board, as the mistake was just swept under the rug.

Why didn’t Kim explain the real root cause of the problem to the Board of Supervisors and public as County Auditor Joe Harn, CPA, requested in his e-mail of April 21? There seems to be no personal accountability with this CAO’s office.

JAMES SMITH
Placerville

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  • Fran DuChampJune 26, 2013 - 3:41 pm

    Read.

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  • Fran DuChampJune 26, 2013 - 4:00 pm

    Sound familiar?

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  • EvelynJune 26, 2013 - 5:00 pm

    While we're at it (thank you, James Smith): THIS.

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  • EvelynJune 26, 2013 - 5:01 pm

    Being Asst. CAO means never having to say you're sorry.

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  • sunshineJuly 13, 2013 - 11:59 am

    The half million overpayment, to the ex CAO who is drawing a six figure retirement and has a business in the county, get the money back. Just cut her retirement pay until it's paid back. She does have a business she can rely on plus, she once publicly said she has Social Security.

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  • Shaun The SheepJuly 14, 2013 - 1:56 pm

    Jim, asking Kim Kerr to explain Terri Daly's "mistake" is like asking Joe Biden to explain Obama's lawlessness. Don't expect subordinates to explain the behavior of their bosses.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 14, 2013 - 8:54 pm

    Here's a "mistake" that KTVU TV 2 would like to sweep under the rug. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCOUgVYG3o&feature=youtu.be

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 7:17 am

    Pretty funny Phil, would you get on a plane with a pilot named Ho-Ly Fuk? Some hackers have a great sense of humor and who better to exercise it on than our soap-opera media. Making fun of our less than useless media would be very productive if it had an effect on the room temperature IQ's who think they get informed by watching them.

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 7:25 am

    I take it back Phil, that report is freekin hysterical. It is the double digit IQ's reporting to the double digit IQ's. The result is we end up trying to correct people who are armed with years worth of what ever the media has told them to believe.

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 8:02 am

    Phil, did you see where Zimmerman is now able to pursue his lawsuit against the journalistic malpractice of nbc since his acquittal? If anyone ever needed anymore evidence of what a joke the leftists have turned the American media into they are beyond help. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/07/14/zimmerman-lawyer-to-move-asap-against-nbc-news/

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 15, 2013 - 8:54 am

    Cookie, Zimmerman is going to have super powered guardian angels hovering 24 7 to make it for several years. I truly wish he could OUN NBC. He may have to lie low.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 15, 2013 - 8:55 am

    ~own~

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 15, 2013 - 9:01 am

    Take it back twice, Cookie! I'm still ROFLMAO. Imus also busted a gut laughing at Ho Lee Fuk . . .

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 10:47 am

    Yes Phil, it is a perfect example of how the low information voters get that way. I am also still laughing. If Zimmerman takes nbc for a couple hundred million he could move to New Zealand. Did you see how pmsnbc who put everything into making the end result of some aggressive, confrontational, unprovoked, violent attack about race got dusted in the ratings? http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/07/msnbc-crushed-in-zimmerman-ratings-race-168371.html#.UeQgMRD17nQ.twitter

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  • Melody LaneJuly 15, 2013 - 11:17 am

    If I hadn't watched the KTVU retraction of the names of the pilots I wouldn't have believed it actually happened. Funny...but then again, not so funny after all. Tragic best describes it. Sounds more like a 3-ring circus with the EDC BOS, CAO, & Mtn. Demo fiasco but nobody has the character to own up to their 'mistakes.'

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 1:31 pm

    I doubt Mr. Zimmerman will be getting a $200 million dollar award from NBC, more likely $1.00, if he prevails. The jury pool has been contaminated as those on the NBC jury could well be looking for payback. Now, comment about the trial: The Not Guilty verdict was appropriate, as the prosecution did not prove their case beyond the benefit of a doubt. And, Mr. Zimmerman's version may be the truth -- he follows Mr. Martin and, depending on what Mr. Zimmerman says to him (we will never know), Mr. Martin takes exception and they get into a fight. The fight goes wrong for Mr. Zimmerman, and he fears for his life and pulls his gun and shoots Mr. Martin. All starting from Mr. Zimmerman's poor judgment in starting the entire encounter. But, poor judgment is not a criminal offense. Nevertheless, I bet Mr. Zimmerman's career in neighborhood watch is over.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 15, 2013 - 1:52 pm

    Colonel, if you had the call at DOJ would you drop it or pursue Zimmerman?

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 15, 2013 - 1:54 pm

    PS - Did the Doc give you a clean bill or just a bill?

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 2:27 pm

    Phil, I would drop it. To continue looks vindictive.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 2:33 pm

    Phil, if you refer to me, the Doc didn't give me a clean bill of health. I'm at that age now that whenever I go go to the doctor they find something new wrong with me. Our bodies just seem to go downhill. And then, we seem to wear out. Bummer, but hanging in there.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 2:33 pm

    *** to old to go go. One go is enough.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 2:34 pm

    *** ah, make that 'too' old to go go.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 2:42 pm

    Be back later -- have to go to the Vet to pick up some doggy medicine.

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  • FranJuly 15, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    Detroit says it's settled with some creditors http://tinyurl.com/p8bxl3c

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  • R J CarterJuly 15, 2013 - 2:56 pm

    Hey James, so you have to go to the Vet to pick up doggy medicine....Apparently your Obama Care must have kicked in...Myself, I can still get my prescriptions from Kaiser...LOL.

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 4:22 pm

    RJ, that one dented some cars in the parking lot. LOL!!!

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 4:37 pm

    James, all of the attempts to make obama's look alike son appear to be an innocent bystander are only gonna work on those who couldn't care less what the evidence is. The only things Trayvon was a victim of is Newton's third law and a culture of violence and confrontation. Trayvon was the cause of the violence that lead to his death. He sent out into the ether harmful actions which returned to him with fatal force. My question is how come the race hustler al sharpton doesn't become a camera ho over the thousands of other young minorities that die at the hands of each other every year because of the exact same mentality? This case exposes the blatant lie of political correctness more than any other recent case. Zimmerman is no more white than obama.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 5:04 pm

    R.J., if you would read the 10,000 pages of the Obamacare law, you would know that it doesn't cover medications for our pets -- as though you didn't know! Actually, given Mr. Fred's surgery and chemo meds it might be a good idea for pets to be included. When I had a specialist operate on Lucy (to correct her broken leg caused by a previous owner taking her by the leg and throwing her around for punishment -- just for fun she also had scars from cigarette burns on her back), I thought the costs were extreme, but with Mr. Fred's surgery and chemo costs the costs have gone to new heights. Operations on animals cost almost as much as operations on people. But, when I rescued them I promised them love, food, water, shelter, medical and dental. A contract is a contract.

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 5:07 pm

    James, I am not sure how you can come to the conclusion that Zimmerman does not have a case against the journalistic malpractice of the leftists at nbc. Asiana Airlines is going to sue KTVU for defamation of character over their broadcast of fictitious names and they didn't do it with intent and malice the like the leftist/socialist/communist/progressives at nbc did. Suing the msm for malpractice in this country is a couple of decades overdue. http://www.kcra.com/news/money/travel/ntsb-intern-fired-over-fake-pilot-names/-/11797110/20976864/-/32xs5lz/-/index.html

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 5:12 pm

    Cookie, so when the DOJ files charges and gets a civil rights conviction against Mr. Zimmerman you won't be a happy camper? Do I have that right?

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 5:14 pm

    James, here is a quote from the link I posted. "The key to a defamation case is to determine whether what was said damages an entity's reputation and causes injury, and what care was taken, if any, to prevent that, said Ken Paulson, president of the First Amendment Center and the dean of the College of Mass Communication at Middle Tennessee State University." Do you suppose intentionally editing legal evidence and broadcasting it on national television for the sole purpose of harming Zimmerman would qualify for this definition?

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 5:16 pm

    Cookie, Mr. Zimmerman may have a case, but whether he prevails and gets a significant judgment remains to be seen. And, by the way, I didn't say that he didn't have a case.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 5:18 pm

    And, you can win and get a judgment of millions or $1.00. Time, as always, will tell.

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  • FranJuly 15, 2013 - 5:27 pm

    Zimmerman verdict gives U.S. cable networks rare Saturday boost http://tinyurl.com/odhdxqj

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  • FranJuly 15, 2013 - 5:29 pm

    Meeting on Delta tunnel project Wednesday in Sacramento Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/07/15/5568650/meeting-on-delta-tunnel-project.html#storylink=cpy

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  • R J CarterJuly 15, 2013 - 5:42 pm

    Just a few things....As far as any federal case against Zimmerman it will never happen, the F.B.I. already tried to bring a case against him and failed, I doubt they'll try again after the latest verdict...Anyway,...Early on, the left came out and defined Zimmerman as a white Hispanic, does that mean in-turn they are defining King Obama as a White African??.....ALSO....Even though Zimmerman was tried and found innocent on all charges in a court of law, Al Sharpton and others like him are still out there inciting riots and yelling about how there will be no peace until we have justice for Travon Martin.....Is this the only way these race-bating, toilette bugs like the Rev.Jackson and Rev Sharpton can make a living?...I guess without it, starve in the street just like all the other common street hustlers...Unfortunately for America there's still plenty of weak-minded leftists both black and white they can take advantage of so no doubt they will continue to do quite well financially...Anyway, Those two should both have their butts kicked and tossed in jail before they can cause anymore riff between the races.......Plus, does the sight of these rioters holding Obama phones in one hand and a burning American flag in the other bother anyone else????...Just me??..

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  • DB SmithJuly 15, 2013 - 5:49 pm

    Colonel, The DOJ doesn't have a civil rights case and they know it. Holder is just blowing his racist scumbag smoke. Holder should put as much effort into something of substance such as the Black Panther Party re: voter intimidation and the fact they posted a Dead or alive bounty on Zimmerman. What do you thing would happen to you if the law knew you posted a Death bounty on a person? Do you really think it would have mattered to Zimmerman what color the person was? If Martin had not physically attacked Zimmerman we would not be talking about this at all. There's usually more rioting after a sports event than this brought on. And why isn't Holder more concerned and outraged about all the deaths of young black's in Obama's home town? When Obama made his comment about Martin looking like his son he thought he would be able to sway a verdict. What a dumb sh*t President to get that involved in a case he knew hardly nothing about. All he thought he knew was that a young black was innocently killed by a white dude. Wrong again Bumbo.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 5:53 pm

    Twinkies went back on sale today. And, I went to the store this afternoon and, of course, forgot to travel the Twinkies aisle. Well, always hope for tomorrow. Actually I was never a Twinkies fan and probably ate the last one when I was 12 -- but, I've decided to try one, just one.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 5:55 pm

    DB, I have no idea what the DOJ knows -- they don't talk to me anymore and I'm glad.

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 8:09 pm

    There is a Border Patrol agent the DOJ could investigate the death of, his name was Brian Terry. But that kind of thing doesn't further the Alinsky tactics of dividing people. It has become obvious that dividing people is the only knob obama and his fellow radicals know how to turn.

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 8:16 pm

    James, the twinkies they made when you were 12 are still good. They have a lot in common with a temporary tax. They last forever.

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  • cookie65July 15, 2013 - 8:22 pm

    Here is a comment I made on another thread back before the verdict. You could replace toure with skin and bones sharpton but there is no doubt toure will do the exact same thing. cookie65 says: July 11, 2013 at 8:09 am James, PMSnbc employs a professional racist that calls itself Toure. I cannot determine a gender, I am not certain it knows. If you wish to see someone’s head explode on live TV be sure and tune in to this example of a surviving brain donor when Zimmerman is acquitted. I would wager you that it will be attempting to instigate violence and retribution from his double digit IQ audience. Too bad we cannot hold the leftist media accountable for the costs of damages that is going to occur over this injustice they have created. Did you know eric holders department of just-us was involved in creating this politically motivated attempted lynching? http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/man-arrested-in-connection-with-death-of-horse/

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 15, 2013 - 11:44 pm

    Cookie, have you seen ALAN DERSHOWITZ's response to, "You have said that you thought the prosecutor ought to be disbarred, that’s a pretty serious type of violation to get a person disbarred. It is that serious to you? " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsksOY0pQRM&feature=player_embedded

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 8:25 pm

    Cookie, not sure exactly of the numbers but the new Twinkies will be good a bit longer than the old Twinkies. Old Twinkies good 25 days (?), new Twinkies good 40 days (?). If I run across the site again I'll write down the actual numbers and report.

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  • James E.July 15, 2013 - 8:30 pm

    That didn't take long. Old Twinkies had a shelf life of 25 days, new Twinkies have a shelf life of 45 days. Old myth that Twinkies had a shelf life of 150 years was unfounded.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 5:01 am

    Phil, Dershowitz has been saying the same thing from the beginning of this political witch hunt. I think he was the first one to speak out about the prosecution filing a false affidavit. He called her actions criminal in April,2012. In this interview he gets a little closer to saying she is a leftists first and a prosecutor second. She is a political hack of the worst kind. I saw her interview after the verdict and she represents all that is sick and evil about leftists. He even talks about her tyrannical suppression of people and facts which is the trademark of all leftists. The scariest part is we literally have thousands of people just like her in all levels of government. She truly does represent the best leftism has to offer, a soulless snake unrestricted by any sense of right and wrong or the totally unnecessary burden of equal and blind justice. She is the reincarnation of Heinrich Himmler. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/megyn-kelly-guest-alan-dershowitz-slams-zimmerman-prosecutor-her-affidavit-is-a-crime/

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 5:24 am

    We all know how the mental midget left loves their slogans, usually created and spread on a river of emotions free from anything that represents discernment or critical thinking. The latest example of this being spawned by obama's look a like son is "We are all Trayvon". I guess they are saying they all have the right to physically attack anyone who looks at them and beat their head into the concrete without fear of the person having the right to defend themselves. I become more convinced everyday that our national IQ has sunk to the level where the only cure will come in a form similar to what happens in nature when animals outnumber their food supply. Natural law always corrects leftism, just a matter of time and staying out of the way. It all comes back to the simplest of all principles, you cannot reap without sowing.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 8:23 am

    Another example of the corruption behind obamacare. The firm obama gave $1.2billion to for managing (LOL) key elements of the healthcare takeover is accused of over charging the British government 10's of millions of pounds under a contract it had with them. At least we now know how huge chunks of our money will make its way to the dnc. And you leftists thought it was about healthcare.....ROTFLMAO!!!! http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/15/obamacare-contractor-under-investigation-in-britain/

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 9:06 am

    Leftism is the gift that just keeps on giving. An anti-business city council person for the district of Columbia made a big stink about walmart coming to town and actually said "we don't need business, business needs us". He said he would not allow walmart to do business in dc unless they were subject to laws only applicable to them, specifically a mandatory higher wage. Come to find out the wage this clown was demanding is higher than the district pays many of its own employees. You just can't make this stuff up. http://www.nbcwashington.com/blogs/first-read-dmv/DC-Government-Doesnt-Pay-a-Living-Wage-215585001.html

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 9:22 am

    Speaking of the British, here is an update on NHS (National Health Service, 1948). This is where Obama "care" will get us. audio player lower left - slide to 12 minutes in to begin relevant part - http://johnbatchelorshow.com/podcasts/2013/07/15/author-0

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 9:42 am

    Phil, just tell us the relevant part.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 9:43 am

    After all Phil, you are commenting with movers and shakers who have babies to kiss and hands to shake.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 9:51 am

    England is now demanding that NO PATIENT should have to wait more than eighteen (18) weeks after referral. A couple years ago England stamped her foot and said "hurry up" - no more than 18 weeks

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 9:55 am

    . . . it is further reported that NOBODY with money uses NHS - thousands travel outside England - thousands pay directly - cancer waits 18 weeks - cardio stints wait 18 weeks - Your trip to the Doc the other day would have come after 18 weeks . . . if you were lucky . . . or had the resources to go outside NHS

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 9:44 am

    so busy.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 9:51 am

    Two thoughts: Senator Reid and Senator McConnell reach agreement on filibuster. That is, until Senator McConnell pulls the football away and we all know he will soonest. So easy to gump Senator Reid. Secondly, a juror in the Zimmerman trial said she voted Not Guilty because Mr. Martin threw the first punch. Now, there was testimony from an eye witness who said they were on the ground and it appeared that Mr. Martin was on top. There was no testimony about who threw the first punch because there were no witnesses to that. Who threw the first punch is known to only two, and one of them is dead. Anyone see/hear any testimony as to which actor threw the first punch? Don't think so.

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  • DB SmithJuly 16, 2013 - 10:50 am

    Colonel, Shame on you for fanning the fire regarding the Zimmerman verdict? It disappoints me that you're starting to sound like Sharpton. The jurors had a very difficult task and they did not let the dipwad President's comments or media bias interfere with the evidence presented or their decision. Get over it sir.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 9:57 am

    Phil, I was referred to a specialist and it took four months (18 weeks?) to get an appointment. Not knowing of the details of the National Health Service, but don't they see emergencies immediately while those needing more routine care have to wait?

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:00 am

    Those with money will always get the advantage and the very best doctors in all health systems around the world. When Rush turns 65 will he use Medicare? No, he will use his big fat roll of $100 bills.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 10:02 am

    . . . well then, James, listen to the clip and become more educated about NHS(single payer) "fair" medical "social justice" medical . . . what Obama care WILL BE.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 10:04 am

    THE POINT, James is that the POOR will get WORSE care - It is irrelevant what the RICH get. THE POOR WILL GET LESS AND WORSE CARE.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:06 am

    Phil, as to what Obamacare will be, we don't know yet. And, I thought Obamacare was Romneycare from MA (which seems to be working in MA). So we will have to see.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 10:07 am

    James, aren't you thankful for those people who have big fat rolls of $100 bills. They reduce the strain on Medicaid while at the same time paying for many others. Spreading the wealth by creating more of it.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 10:07 am

    OUTTA here 4 now

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:07 am

    Phil, for the poor, less and worst care beats no care at all.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 10:09 am

    no care for the poor IS A LIE.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 10:09 am

    Wow James, you don't know what obamacare will be? How has the war on poverty turned out? How about the war on drugs? Think of obamacare as the war on quality healthcare.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:10 am

    Phil, I know, they can get care for their cancer from the ER, which gives them aspirin and sends them home. Some care for the poor.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 10:11 am

    to refuse care IS AGAINST THE LAW . . . NOW . . . TODAY . . . YESTERDAY . . . prior to obama . . . THE POOR HAD CARE . . . IT WAS ILLEGAL TO REFUSE

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 10:11 am

    James, if you know someone who has been denied healthcare in this country I have an attorney friend that would love to talk to them.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:11 am

    Cookie, I don't mind rich folks paying for their health care. Were I rich I would buy the best doctors/specialists available.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:13 am

    A man cannot go to my family doctor or a specialist and demand that they treat him. The man can go to the ER.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:15 am

    And the ER option is how the Republicans say that that everyone has health care.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 10:16 am

    http://johnbatchelorshow.com/podcasts/2013/07/15/author-0 TWELVE MINUTES IN, James

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:18 am

    Ever try to get admitted to the hospital (beyond the ER)? Their first question is how will you pay? Almost like trying to get a car loan. No car until you have financing.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 10:19 am

    Phil, as you note, let's go do stuff and be back later.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 10:27 am

    James, it was moochelle obama working for a Chicago hospital forcing poor patients on to local clinics I guess so they could better afford to pay her the 300 plus grand a year while her husband was still state senator. Of course once obama was elected to the US senate he was not longer shoveling state money to the hospital so she left the job and is has never been refilled. Looking out for the poor.....

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 11:35 am

    DB, if you read my previous comments you will see that I agree with the verdict. I'm not fanning any fires -- just wonder how the juror knew that Mr. Martin threw the first punch. That alleged fact is unknowable.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 11:42 am

    Hmm, just had a memory: My son went to the ER in severe pain from a kidney stone. They sent him a bill. As he was between jobs with no medical insurance, he paid. I guess they send ER bills to everyone without insurance, and then if unpaid the accounts are turned over to collection agencies. Wonder if unpaid bills are a tax write off. Would assume so.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 12:31 pm

    DB, if you were to subject yourself to what the left defines as reporting you may have caught CNN intentionally misreporting what the eye witness said in testimony. They reported the exact opposite of what he testified to. I suspect that is the source of James confusion. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/65699-the-trayvon-martin-case-in-pictures/21/

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 12:43 pm

    Cookie, no confusion: Anderson Cooper Show, 7/16/13. Juror B37 -- "She said she believes Martin threw the first punch." These were words out of her mouth on national TV. Understand she has cancelled plans to write a book.

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  • James E.July 16, 2013 - 12:44 pm

    And, now sadly, I have to depart for a while. Be back later.

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  • DB SmithJuly 16, 2013 - 1:52 pm

    Cookie, We the sane, realize that CNN & MSNBC report to the already misinformed and they love to keep em that way. The Colonel cites a 7/16/13 CNN report that happens to be today but I figure that's much too late on factual reporting. Another disturbing note to me is that Zimmerman had to be asked by the 911 operator what race Martin was. It's so frigin ridiculous that it person feels reluctant to provide an accurate description of another. If a person is white, black, brown, red or whatever color they should just be able to say it like it is.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJuly 16, 2013 - 2:04 pm

    Sanity from inside the echo chamber is relative. The fact is that there was no evidence as to who initiated the confrontation, or who threw the first punch. That is the essence of why this is such a controversial topic. Everyone gets to guess about what really went down, and we tend to guess based along racial and political lines. The jury produced the "correct" verdict given this lack of this critical information. Those that claim Mr Zimmerman was "found innocent" really crack me up. It's no different than saying OJ was "found innocent" due to a Not Guilty verdict.

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  • DB SmithJuly 16, 2013 - 3:39 pm

    Absolutely no comparison between the Simpson case vs. the Zimmerman case. Zimmerman killed a guy in self defense. It's not a funny situation but go ahead if you like and Crack up and be on with yourself.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJuly 16, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    You miss the point...to wit: Not Guilty does not mean "innocent". But the only way you can come to the conclusion that Mr Zimmerman was acting in self defense is if Mr Martin was the aggressor, and there you have to guess because there is no evidence to support that conclusion. Those that guess the other direction say Mr Martin was acting in self defense. You have proven my main point -- we tend to guess along racial and political lines.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 3:58 pm

    I am gonna hold my breath waiting for the professional racists at PMSnbc to go off the deep end over this guy murdering this 6 year old girl and leaving her dismembered body in a trash can. http://www.nbc33tv.com/news/crimetracker/matthew-flugence-official

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 4:02 pm

    I read the other day that roughly 11,000 black on black murders have occurred in the United States since the night Trayvon Martin died. Most of them teenagers. I guess the race hustlers don't figure they are worth any political points or money.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 4:06 pm

    Kirk, guilty means not innocent but not guilty doesn't mean innocent? If not guilty doesn't mean innocent what does it mean? Isn't the left always telling us how people on death row are found to be "innocent" from dna evidence years after they were found guilty by a juror?

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJuly 16, 2013 - 5:16 pm

    Guilty means the accused is convicted of doing the crime. Innocent means the accused did not do the crime. Not guilty means the prosecution did not prove the accused did the crime. OJ was "not guilty", but that doesn't mean he was innocent. If DNA proves someone did not do a crime -- even if they have been convicted -- they should be considered innocent (of that crime).

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  • Dee#1July 16, 2013 - 4:13 pm

    ***SANFORD.FLORIDA@USDOJ.GOV *** On Monday afternoon, the US Department of Justice appealed to civil rights groups and the general public across the country for “tips” on George Zimmerman in their pursuit of potential federal civil rights charges against the just-acquitted defendant in the Trayvon Martin killing. The DOJ actually went so far as to set up an e-mail address to allow such tips: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov. The email address is slated to go operational by the end of the week. If you don't have the facts make them. No need to fear our government.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 4:15 pm

    Taking into account that I was not there and I do not know who the aggressor was, the physical evidence was rather one sided. Zimmerman had a broken nose, a bloody face, cuts and abrasions on the back of his head, dirt, moisture and grass stains on his back and the only marks on Trayvon other than a bullet hole were his bloody knuckles. De Nile is a river in Egypt.

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm

    "Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices." -barack hussein obama

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 4:40 pm

    This will make you lose your lunch. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/hillary-clinton-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-verdict-94301.html

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 4:53 pm

    from Cookie's link - HILDABEAST - “As you know, women still comprise a majority of the world’s unhealthy, unschooled, unfed and unpaid,” she said,( . . . and George Zimmerman jury . . . ) adding that there’s been “a lot of progress” on women’s rights but that more needs to be done." (BOLD be me)

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 5:54 pm

    Speaking of hypocrisy. http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/TheBattery/archives/2013/07/16/naacp-leaders-respond-to-marley-liontrayvon-martin-comparison

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm

    One thing about the NHS in England, the unemployment due to high taxation to pay for it is the same exact thing we will witness here. http://washingtonexaminer.com/74-of-small-businesses-will-fire-workers-cut-hours-under-obamacare/article/2533131

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  • cookie65July 16, 2013 - 6:29 pm

    One of the professional racists at PMSnbc says more white kids need to die in order for Americans to understand racism. The mentally ill have their own network. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/65871-the-insanity-continues-msnbc-contributor-says-more-white-kids-need-to-die-for-america-to-understand-racism/

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  • DB SmithJuly 16, 2013 - 6:32 pm

    Kirk, Mayor Quan and some residents of Oakland are looking for folks like you to participate in some shenanigans. They will probably provide you the gas to get there (510) 238-3141.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJuly 16, 2013 - 7:10 pm

    Here's a number for you: 1-800-328-7448.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 7:15 pm

    Kirk, didn't you pull that the phone # from your wallet after you copied it from that pretty, pink billboard on Highway 50?

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJuly 16, 2013 - 7:26 pm

    Nope, I got it off a bumper sticker. I figured you would be clever enough to get it...wrong again.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 7:37 pm

    I did get it - This number is a crank number that some "entrepreneur" has obtained; it spells out the infamous 1-800-EAT-S*** reference seen on bumper stickers, etc. around the country. slow evening, kirk?

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJuly 16, 2013 - 7:50 pm

    sure you did, Google Boy.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 16, 2013 - 7:59 pm

    ~but I DID get it~

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  • EvelynJuly 29, 2013 - 2:30 pm

    Kim Kerr is characterized as having “misled” the [Ione] City Council. She is also reported to "not demonstrate that she possessed the proper qualifications and expertise to perform the duties required for that position."

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  • FranJuly 29, 2013 - 3:21 pm

    Miss Evelyn...I cant get the Kim Kerr link to work on any browser --suggestions?

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  • EvelynJuly 29, 2013 - 3:34 pm

    Fran: The link is correct but I also cannot connect right now. There must be a temporary site problem. I'll try again in another hour or so.

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  • FranJuly 29, 2013 - 3:35 pm

    Thank you Miss :)

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  • EvelynJuly 29, 2013 - 5:40 pm

    Fran: The site is up now. "Kim Kerr Savaged by former employer in Grand Jury Report" - HERE

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  • EvelynJuly 29, 2013 - 6:03 pm

    Why indeed does so much get SWEPT UNDER THE RUG? Terri Daly knew and knows full well Kim Kerr's track record; the two of them go back together a verrry long way. Why does the Board of Supervisors look the other way? Why did John Knight say he wasn't interested in the Grand Jury Report about Kim Kerr? Something is very wrong in El Dorado County. Why do we REFUSE to learn from Amador County's experience? HERE is the City of Ione's response to the 2011-12 Amador County Grand Jury Report.

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