Wednesday, April 23, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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CEDAPP response

EDITOR:

Dorothea Falkenstein, mother of Wanda Flores, this year’s president of the Pollock Pines-Camino Chamber, certainly has the right to ask questions, and she is entitled to her opinions. She is not, however, entitled to contrive her own erroneous facts.

1. Jeanne Harper is not now, nor has she ever considered running for any political office.

2. Jeanne Harper doesn’t need people to write letters for her and has never asked anyone to write a letter for her.

3. Jeanne Harper is very proud to have close working relationships with all three of the Pollock Pines supervisors and many more of the El Dorado County staff. CEDAPP is proud to have a close working relationship with Supervisor Norma Santiago and has always been proud to have the same with Supervisor Ray Nutting and pledges to work with newly elected Bryan Veerkamp during his term, as well. That’s the way it should be in a democratic republic.

4. CEDAPP originated in 2007; the Pollock Pines-Camino Chamber under the charter of the Cameron Park/Shingle Spring Chamber came into being about three years ago.

5. CEDAPP has repeatedly invited mutual collaboration and communication to the Pollock Pines-Camino Chamber and to individual board members, as well. All such invitations have either been ignored or denied.

6. Five years ago, CEDAPP brought back the much loved Wagon Train welcome in Pollock Pines (Wagons In The Pines) after many years of the Wagon Train passing through with no stop. This was at the request of the community at large and working closely with Vi Tara and other wagon train officials, community businesses, residents and county officials, such as Supervisor Nutting. Literally hundreds of people have been involved with this now annual event and hundreds more attend each year as we strive to bring more business to the businesses of Pollock Pines. CEDAPP continues to enjoy a close relationship with Highway 50 Association and conducts additional supportive events including the Wagon Train throughout the year.

7. Declining enrollment in schools is due to people moving away, not only in Pollock Pines, but throughout our state, and probably many others, too. Why? Take a course on economics.

8. Dictators don’t invite whole communities to meet with them and make decisions about their own destiny.

In summary, CEDAPP seeks to support and promote Pollock Pines in a 100 percent inclusive operation … every resident, every business and every organization, including the Pollock Pines-Camino Chamber. To that end, we will continue to function as we try to maintain the pristine heritage of our community. And we invite the PP-C Chamber to work with us as we work with all other organizations in town. There is a communal need for each of the organizations, not as silos, but as inherent components of a much loved community.

Jeanne Harper states, “The service organizations in every community provide the community frosting on the cake, especially during times of difficult economy when businesses are strapped and individuals are feeling a bit hopeless and frustrated. There is always something we can do to make things better. Doing it in larger, connected numbers makes sense and builds a stronger community.”

CEDAPP BOARD OF DIRECTORS

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  • D JohnstoneMay 09, 2013 - 9:08 pm

    This eloquent defense of Jeanne Harper, written by Jeanne Harper, proves Jeanne Harper's point: She writes her own letters.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 09, 2013 - 9:24 pm

    I guess Ms. Harper has forgotten some things--I still have every single email. But this was a very good try. Maybe I should start posting them as well. Remember Ms. Green had no clue I was disabled. Im so sorry that Harper has also forgotten how we met--I remember vividly. Interesting story.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 09, 2013 - 9:31 pm

    I can site many things--wanna play? I was working on being nicer--sorry Phil. Ill wait for a response...before I start posting emails from several years--ask her if she minds first. It is part of being polite.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 09, 2013 - 9:39 pm

    2. Jeanne Harper doesn’t need people to write letters for her and has never asked anyone to write a letter for her. So either she is writing about herself--or someone wrote this letter. lololol...Be very careful here--could be another oops...ask her what she talked to me about one time. 5. CEDAPP has repeatedly invited mutual collaboration and communication to the Pollock Pines-Camino Chamber and to individual board members, as well. All such invitations have either been ignored or denied. another --oops...once again you seem to forget I have been at many many event plannings and events. Several times she was asked to give businesses back to the chamber--we voted on it as a community.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 09, 2013 - 9:43 pm

    Do plan "nice", Fran! Nice is . . . uh . . . well . . . nice. Nice and tough is also OK, Fran.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 09, 2013 - 9:50 pm

    ~play

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 09, 2013 - 10:14 pm

    D JohnstoneMay 09, 2013 - 9:08 pm This eloquent defense of Jeanne Harper, written by Jeanne Harper, proves Jeanne Harper's point: She writes her own letters. Im confused--it is signed CEDAPP BOARD OF DIRECTORS ...

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 09, 2013 - 10:19 pm

    Oh I get it--you were joking.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 12, 2013 - 1:25 pm

    There are two of these articles ?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 12, 2013 - 1:39 pm

    Second article leaves out the cake and frosting stuff--not that it made sense any way. Great-- now im thinking of the coconut cake again...keep trying CEDAPP--I dont have to do much--people are starting to see through the smoke and mirrors...good luck.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 12, 2013 - 1:42 pm

    "8. Dictators don’t invite whole communities to meet with them and make decisions about their own destiny." Id look this up...communities are invited by dictators--but the dictators just pretend to listen...to the peoples comments. CEDAPP --I couldnt have picked a better reference--thanks!!!!

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 9:36 am

    Francesca, truth and reality have nothing in common with "niceness". The truth is nice to hear, but it isn't always nice to hear the truth. There are many people who are incapable of telling the truth and usually the best response to any conversation with them is, "that's nice". Thomas Paine takes it a little further when he said, "He who dares not offend cannot be honest."

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 13, 2013 - 11:45 am

    Hey cookie--I used to say "thats nice" a lot--untill one day my grandmother called me on it...she was telling me a story--and I remarked "thats nice grandma",and she proceeded to chew me out. she said that ever since I was a little girl I would say "thats nice" when I could care less--and even that the story was most likely being boring to me...I was surprized--although I didnt care about the story--I had thought I was being polite by responding the way I did. she told me that the next time--I should just say "i dont care Grandma"--I was teenager...I was shocked.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 13, 2013 - 12:01 pm

    surprised...any other mistakes are so I remain humble in life. It is refreshing to know that I am not perfect, as I once thought.

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 12:28 pm

    Francesca, I have another "tinfoil" hat example for you. People who believe the federal government uses the IRS as a tool against political enemies are labeled as the "tinfoil" hat type.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 13, 2013 - 12:51 pm

    thanks cookie...a "singer" friend of mine--made lots of noise one time in IRS building--she was audited for for several years...could have been a cowinkydink...maybe she was just bad at paper work. and kept getting caught.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 13, 2013 - 1:13 pm

    cookie my favorite example by you, pertaining to tin hats--was saying for the bees to have little tinfoil hats--I laughed really hard--and it brought it all home for me. The world--my world has all of a sudden gotten very strange...Im hoping to wake up soon. Our country is so young to have all these different people try to change what brought us to this place to begin with. I know seniors who are terrified of this new health program--with "groups" who will decide if they can have medical help or not--hopefully CEDAPP wont apply for the appointments.

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  • EvelynMay 13, 2013 - 4:03 pm

    "Why Liberals Should be Outraged that the IRS Targeted Conservatives" - HERE: It is ironic – and downright Orwellian – that the IRS targeted people trying to educate Americans on the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Unfortunately, this is not entirely surprising, given that the Bill of Rights have been fatally wounded by the Bush and Obama administrations, and that liking the Founding Fathers or being “reverent of individual liberty” could get one branded as a potential terrorist.

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 7:49 pm

    Evelyn, don't you just love the irony of obama telling the grads at Ohio State to "reject the voices of government tyranny" while the IRS is targeting groups that are warning of government tyranny? You just can't make up leftism, no sane person could ever imagine just how sleazy it truly is.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 13, 2013 - 8:14 pm

    Cookie - private hypothesis - IRS and AP "scandals" are rabbits for the hounds to chase rather follow Benghazi on up to hildabeast and zero. The old Clinton strategy of, tell bad news early. It will be old when hildabeast runs. . . . the Clinton body count may grow . . . The IRS and AP things fill the table with red meat. "Just look at the political feeding frenzy" Three years from now it will all be sooooooo old soooooooo yesterday.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 13, 2013 - 8:16 pm

    DENY - DELAY - DISTACT - DISTROY (and get bad news out on your own terms)

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  • EvelynMay 13, 2013 - 9:19 pm

    Cookie65: The hypocrisy and irony are glaring. These traits, of course, are neither uniquely left nor uniquely right.

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 9:31 pm

    Phil, I actually read an article a couple of days ago that was making that very point. The theory being obama cut the IRS story loose to get the press off of Benghazi.

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 9:43 pm

    Evelyn, uniquely leftist regardless which letter (R/D) follows the name. It is not the practice of authentic Constitutionally limited government supporters to use the power of the federal government to intimidate the citizens. Anyone who would do such a thing is not a limited government conservative. It is troubling for someone like me to comprehend why anyone would have to be persuaded into wanting to be free. But that is the exact type of person who wouldn't have a problem with the IRS targeting groups that oppose government tyranny. I don't see R's and D's, I see leftists and anti-leftists.

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 10:02 pm

    Phil, the completely blind can see that this Chicago thug machine is the most corrupt administration in our lifetime if not the history of this country and that was before we learned about the IRS and the AP. We know Benghazi is hiding a beehive if they dumped those two stories as a distraction. And you are correct, it goes all the way to zero and hildabeast. Have you ever read up on valerie jarrett? 90% of the country have never heard of her, but she is the reason obama took 4 months to make a decision on osama. She is one seriously nasty America hating leftists and obama's puppet master.

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  • James E.May 13, 2013 - 10:13 pm

    Cookie, please don't get Phil all agitated with Valerie. He has enough with Hillary.

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 10:19 pm

    Here is some more irony, a green energy company dumping hazardous waste. http://www.kcra.com/news/green-energy-business-accused-of-dumping-hazardous-waste/-/11797728/20102242/-/item/0/-/vg1r9r/-/index.html

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  • cookie65May 13, 2013 - 10:25 pm

    James, she is a real piece of work. If she were running for an office against elizabeth warren I would have to vote for warren and I have met fence posts that were smarter that warren. My opinion of her is that she is evil incarnate.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 13, 2013 - 10:40 pm

    Jeanne does not recognize the "community Center"--because she can not run it. She is now using the sportsman's hall for events. CEDAPP meetings are at ship shape--see I dont feel the word "community" coming from her group. Our community center runs on volunteers--no salaries. they do not want to over charge any one--they want to maintain the community feel--and allow the community to know that the center belongs to all.

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  • cookie65May 14, 2013 - 6:30 am

    Here is another irony. http://www.delawareonline.com/viewart/20130514/NEWS08/130514002/Wind-farms-get-pass-eagle-deaths

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  • cookie65May 14, 2013 - 7:04 am

    I think the biggest irony of all is how those who believe in and support the idealism of "spread the wealth" don't understand that the only way you get there is by "spreading the tyranny". It has been repeated countless times throughout history. The shortsidedness of their utopia is that tyrants once entrenched and empowered never ever spread the wealth. As far as the AP scandal, does anyone remember how the left reacted to Murdoch and the phone tapping scandal?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 14, 2013 - 2:29 pm

    I went to my first BOS meeting--I was totally excited--I believe in government processes. i may not agree with the out come...but just being in a government building is exciting for me. I walk in the door--and im getting phone calls--someone is texting from the building. Wow. Mis information gets out--and feelings get hurt. I was talking on the issue of "design" and being on a design board--how careful you have to be with words. During the design meeting--a simple question of alchol came up the three women--two on board and Ms Harper flew with the conversation--one of the board members stated--this has nothing to do with our job description. Five times conversation was brought back. I stated that the word really needs to be defined. I also brought up that the people who are bring in the new store--followed what they were told--it looks like Napas . No one can change someones logo--architects and designers want to finish their projects and move on--just like everyone else. They check materials/colors/surrounding areas...plants--signs. I dont get it. any way--if I offended any one --it was not my point at all--I said to be careful od using the word design. If someone has no knowledge of the terminology...I dont know--now im just mad. Phil--honestly this being "nice" is more stressful than its worth.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 15, 2013 - 6:07 am

    Well tonight is the big night--Remember Pollock Pines is the poster child for "whatever"..lolol....Please come to our town meeting at 6:00 at the Pollock Pines Camino community Center to discuss forming a advisory board of un elected-un qualified people who are using moral and ethic standards to reshape our space. Yesterday at the BOS meeting as Ms Harper was thanking the supervisors--I thought she was going to bow down in front of them. People --I honor elected officials--good or bad--because they were elected some how. But they are not "Gods"--they are people. Harper put out flyers--at the last min. The words of our "community" meetings--nope--they are already in the draftfor community Identity. It will be interesting to see who comes tonight--bring cameras...so you can remember "who" has been changing Pollock Pines...CEDAPP will certainly be there.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 15, 2013 - 6:27 am

    Up on facebook-- Jeanne Harper One last notification Re: tomorrow's (wednesday) Townhall Community Meeting. Every person in Pollock Pines, whether you are a young person, a senior, a business person, a resident, or an organization person, would do well to come to the community meeting tomorrow as we engage in the selection of the community advisory Council, a group of respected Pollock Pines citizens whose purpose it will be to bring pertinent information about any and every part of Pollock Pines to the Board of Supervisors and to bring information from the supervisors back to Pollock Pines. In trying to incorporate the entire breadth of Pollock Pines, the community selected eleven special interest groups from which two people will be self selected. One will be the primary, and the other will be the secondary whose only responsibility will be to fill-in for the primary should the primary not be able to fulfill his term of office whatever that will be. The meeting starts at 6 pm and will be held at the Community Center. The entire process is to validate your democratic right to gather together and make decisions about your community. This is upheld in the El Dorado County General Plan. Hoping some young people show up, too! Like · · Unfollow Post · Share · 10 hours ago near Pollock Pines Kris Chapel Spiegelberg likes this. Fran Duchamp I hope people do come--the categories chosen did not come from our community--they came from documents already published. Yesterday at a BOS meeting I called Harper out on the fact that people were not notified until the last min. We knew about this a month ago. So please come. I would like everyone to see who is changing Pollock --without your knowledge. Should be an interesting night. I will be there. Once again--you are being manipulated by a group of people who believe they are the moral and ethical leaders in this community. Although for me--the most important event for tonight is the last concert of our young people at Sierra. My phone number is 6444072...it is a message machine--any one that wants to see any documents behind this meeting are welcome to ask for them. The general Plan is just that--a plan. The rest is voluntary. So connecting the two--is also a manipulation. 7 minutes ago · Like Fran Duchamp connecting the breadth of Pollock--1% come...the true population dont--because they do not like being manipulated or they have been insulted. Please listen carefully when you come. 4 minutes ago · Like Fran Duchamp Go to the BOS site--look up the agenda for yesterday--they taped the whole thing...watch it when it is available. I have never lied to this community.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 15, 2013 - 6:42 am

    "8. Dictators don’t invite whole communities to meet with them and make decisions about their own destiny." Dictatorship: A government controlled by one person, or a small group of people. In this form of government the power rests entirely on the person or group of people, and can be obtained by force or by inheritance. The dictator(s) may also take away much of its peoples' freedom. COME TO THE MEETING TONIGHT--WHERE CEDAPP PEOPLE BELIEVE THEY SHOULD HOLD THE POSITION ON THE ADVISORY BOARD...this is as nice as I can get. I am furious that a group of people feel they are "better" than the rest.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 15, 2013 - 7:30 am

    Fran, continue being "NICE"! . . . good job . . . carry on . . . if necessary . . . pause on "nice"

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 15, 2013 - 7:37 am

    My halo gets stuck on my horns sometimes O;)

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  • Phil FitzgeraldMay 31, 2013 - 10:43 pm

    Why would anyone listen to Dorothea Falkenstein anyway?She speaks as if she is a real conservative but instead her and her family have always mooched off the tax payer dime.Her sense of entitlement is only surpased by her misunderstanding of the facts.As long as I have known her she has been a very abrasive and ignorant waste of space.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netJune 01, 2013 - 9:09 am

    We have a brand new sign in Pollock--Big-Bright Royal Blue (tourist color)...it has Welcome to Pollock Pines, Harpers baby...for a small fee--one can put up an event (community board) Now my question--does Harper have different rules than the rest of us? The new store coming in was also before this design committee (All signs--go before them--before the boards final okay)(all the signs we are seeing all over --are illegal --unless they go through this process)...now for the recommendations for their sign..."Signs: On the Monument Sign the committee recommends: i. The sign be made out of wood to blend with the natural Forest surroundings and in harmony with the area. ii. The sign be no taller than eight (8) feet and no wider than six (6) feet. The monument sign may include the company’s current logo but recommends that the logo blends into a surrounding frame. The size to include the dimensions of the frame. iii. The committee agrees with use of the company color in the sign however the coloring in the frame should assist in blending in with harmony to the forest like surroundings and in harmony with the area. We strongly recommend tan, beige, brown and green colors similar to the trim on the buildings in the development complex." Big-Bright Royal Blue background. Jeanne Harper May 20 near Pollock Pines via mobile Dear friends and neighbors! Did you see the brand-new welcome to Pollock Pines event sign on the corner of Sly Park and pony express trail? This was a project that was three years in the making going through all of the county processes. It was first proposed by Monica Hobbs and has been in the process of becoming ever since! Special thanks to George Staton of Staton Signs and Jeff Hammett of JPH electric for the design and the construction. The sign is intended to advertise all of those special events and projects sponsored by the nonprofits of Pollock Pines. you would like more info Share 10 people like this. Jeanne Harper Sorry, this got posted before it was completed. If you would like more information on how to put an event sign on the new Pollock Pines event sign, give me a call at 530-613-1332. And thanks to all of the many many many people who worked to get this erected. May 20 at 9:32pm via mobile · 1 Jeanne Harper PS this was not intended to replace or to compete with the Safeway marquee, it was suggested and initiated in order to support and give room for even more events in conjunction with the Safeway Marquee information. May 20 at 9:33pm via mobile · 1 Eric Schlavin Love it! May 20 at 10:35pm via mobile · 1 Bonnie Inhulsen McAskin Post a picture May 21 at 3:07am via mobile Richard Krek Special Use permit? May 21 at 7:40pm Jeanne Harper To Richard (et al)..... Oh, yeah! Three years to go through the process! But I am proud to say that we are one of the very few legal signs in Pollock Pines! May 21 at 7:54pm via mobile Jeanne Harper To Bonnie: will do when we get the first banners up. May 21 at 7:55pm via mobile Richard Krek No the fire department had to get one in the 90"s May 21 at 7:57pm Jeanne Harper I said one of a few.....lol! Can't tell you how many people in town said, "just put it up!" "just put it up" (sounds like..."if they wont paint--we will") Well once again Pollock Pines wasnt in the "know" The sign is well crated--but like bill boards going up across the nation by people like Harper...apparently the Marque that is free and always will be...was just not up to her standards. Small town--people will remember who brought all this mess in Ms. Harper. Enjoy the light while you can.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netJune 01, 2013 - 9:14 am

    http://tinyurl.com/lcrldfj Pollock pines design committee 5-9-13 for the store sign march 8th for blue sign COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ITEM a. S 12-0001 - POLLOCK PINES EVENT SIGN (Evan Bell/CEDAPP/George Staton): A Special Use Permit request to allow the installation of an off-premise sign to be utilized as a Pollock Pines Community Sign. The sign would have a total sign area of 84 square feet and a height of 9 feet. The property, identified by Assessor’s Parcel Number 009-180-08, consists of 0.73 acres, and is located on....The Committee reviewed the sign and found that it met acceptable standards.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netJune 01, 2013 - 9:21 am

    Both signs will appear on the same strip of land. Oddly the new Pollock sign is on the corner as one is leaving Pollock...forecasting the tourists escape...at least they will know which town they are running from.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netJune 01, 2013 - 9:25 am

    8. Dictators don’t invite whole communities to meet with them and make decisions about their own destiny...(no one said Harper was good at being a dictator)Many people do not know what CEDAPP is..."Jeanne Harper states, “The service organizations in every community provide the community frosting on the cake," the part that is overly sweet--be careful of the pain that comes with that.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netJune 01, 2013 - 11:29 am

    Which Country Goes Bankrupt Next? (Hint: It's Not Who You Think)http://tinyurl.com/c7tx5aa If one remembers I dropped links of counties--then states...now countries...Read. The Rural counties are the last to sign for up bankruptcy in the United States--fight back.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netJune 01, 2013 - 11:30 am

    "3. Jeanne Harper is very proud to have close working relationships with all three of the Pollock Pines supervisors and many more of the El Dorado County staff. CEDAPP is proud to have a close working relationship with Supervisor Norma Santiago and has always been proud to have the same with Supervisor Ray Nutting and pledges to work with newly elected Bryan Veerkamp during his term, as well. That’s the way it should be in a democratic republic." Now how many issues are being brought up in our local government?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netJune 01, 2013 - 11:32 am

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/03/13/greek-default-the-biggest-in-history-no-problem-bernanke-says/

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