Wednesday, April 23, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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D’Agostini takes on Biden

EDITOR:

I do not underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs with facts. It would be useless for me to cite the reams of research, here and abroad, indicating that the single most reliable predictor of someone being shot is the ready availability of guns. This refusal to accept scientific evidence is part and parcel of the growing power of propaganda organs like FOX News and the NRA, and the concomitant dumbing down of those who believe them. In 1991, retired Chief Justice Warren Burger declared in a speech: “The Second Amendment has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud — I repeat ‘fraud’ — perpetrated on the American public by special interests groups…”

If I don’t like the Mountain Democrat’s management refusal to accept science, be it about guns or about climate change, I can stop buying the paper. However, when John D’Agostini, our elected “Sheriff-Coroner-Public Administrator” shows signs of being divorced from reality, as he does in his open “Letter” to VP Biden, then I, as a citizen, start worrying.

D’Agostini’s “Letter” is symptomatic of someone suffering from Fregoli’s Syndrome, aka “delusional paranoia.” Sheriff D’Agostini seems to believe that Joe Biden is coming for our guns. Really? Is the good Sheriff having visions, à la Joan of Arc? There is zero, nada, none evidence that taking away guns is even remotely in the realm of reality, or possibility.

The Obama Administration is proposing to use the Supreme Court’s 2008 decision (District of Columbia v. Heller) that, even though citizens have a right to own arms, it is not an unfettered right, and, by inference, the government has a right to regulate possession. To my NRA pals, I point out that the government already regulates howitzers, tank guns, machine guns, recoilless rifles, bazookas, claymore, anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, weapons containing chemical, bacteriological or radiological agents, the list goes on. By acquiescing to government controls over some weapons, the gun absolutists have, de facto, already admitted that controls, and even outright bans, are within the government’s purview.

The good Sheriff also writes: “It is well-known and proven with facts, not emotional inference, that gun control of any kind has no effect on … crime.” Mr. D’Agostini would help his case if he cited a single “fact,” backed by research not funded by the NRA or Smith & Wesson, to support his claim. Of course, independent studies prove exactly the opposite of the Sheriff’s claims. Borrowing a page from the NRA, D’Agostini’s letter plays on ignorance and its twin progeny: fear and paranoia.

Missing from the misinformation circulating about the Second Amendment is the Declaration of Independence’s part about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. For the 30,000 people, including over 3,000 kids, who die each year of gunshot wounds, how are freedom and happiness working out from the grave? How does a person’s right to live stack up against gun absolutists’ desire to amass dangerous toys? Where are the Christians on this moral issue?

I’m with the good Sheriff in not wanting to put guns in the hands of mentally unstable people. Therefore, I feel obligated to point out to Mr. D’Agostini that Fregoli’s Syndrome is a mental illness … and that he carries a gun. It follows that the good Sheriff ought to voluntarily disarm until he undergoes a medical evaluation.

I will allow for a possible misdiagnosis on my part, and that Sheriff D’Agostini does not actually believe a word he wrote. Rather, he borrowed a page from Sen. Ted Gaines’s book “Mastering the Art of Self-Aggrandizement and Political Grandstanding.” Two years hence, D’Agostini hopes to be re-elected on the platform “I stood firm against that gun-stealin’ varmint Joe Biden.” Around here, it’s a winning slogan.

JOHN GARON
Placerville

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 28, 2013 - 1:33 pm

    Welcome back, John. The MD just seems more complete with a "garon tag".

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  • Dink LaneJanuary 28, 2013 - 4:46 pm

    The Jan 16 letter from the White House...only says: TRACE GUNS USED IN A CRIME.... Now I have read the Sheriff's letter and cannot for the life of me see where the 2nd Amendment is in danger.... but I do see the PUBLIC IN DANGER if criminal's guns are NOT TRACED! Stop protecting the criminals.... It's time to think about the public 1st!

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 7:32 pm

    Garon says "If I don’t like the Mountain Democrat’s management refusal to accept science, be it about guns or about climate change, I can stop buying the paper. However, when John D’Agostini, our elected Sheriff...shows signs of being divorced from reality, as he does in his open “Letter” to VP Biden, then I, as a citizen..." Let me finish that for you John; because in the beginning of this paragraph, you were on to something. If you don't like the paper, cancel your subscription, and if you don't like the county sheriff, you can...cancel your residency? My guess, lots of folks wouldn't mind either. BUT, if you do cancel your subscription to the paper, please, please, pleeeease, stop writing these imbecilic letters. You sound like an addled old man who needs his drivers license revoked.

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  • JohnJanuary 28, 2013 - 10:16 pm

    Thank you, o'furniture, for making my point that people who listen to FOX and the NRA, as you no doubt do, are not capable of rational thought--dumbed down to the max, resorting to personal (and childish) invective when faced with facts and logic! As for moving--no thanks! I'd rather stay here and annoy the hell out of people like you.

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  • EvelynJanuary 29, 2013 - 6:24 am

    From Politico, reportedly having a liberal/Democratic party bias, SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE JR.: SKIP 911, DEFEND YOURSELF: “There are certain situations — and I think most people get that — where 911 is going to be of no use. For instance, once the wolf is at the door, once the intruder is inside your home, once you’re on the street and someone sticks a gun in your face to take your car or your wallet, you don’t have the option of calling 911,” Clarke said. - HERE

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 7:22 pm

    Garon, if "annoy(ing) the hell out of people like" me is what thrills you, then you have proved my point that you are indeed an addled old man who...needs a different hobby; annoying people is a poor pastime. Loosen your belt (which is no doubt up just below your teats) a notch so you can draw a deeper breath and get more oxygen to your brain. It may help you to think with more lucidity. And your friend James can tell you I don't watch Fox news-no TV. And capitalize the "O" in O'furniture next time. Lower case O?-now THAT annoys me.

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  • toniaJanuary 30, 2013 - 6:56 am

    Excellently written letter. Keep up the good work, especially in ED county where folks would rather that their homes burn down than pay any additional tax.

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  • cookie65January 30, 2013 - 7:06 am

    Your claim that the government can without discretion re-assign us our bill of rights is straight out of mother goose just like your global warming fraud. I am amazed how out of kilter the left gets over fox news as if they are somehow responsible for all of obama's failures. What is it like being totally obsessed with a couple of drops of pseudo conservatism in a ocean of liberalism? The roll of the media is to be watchdog of government not the lapdog of government. The founders considered the press to be the 4th branch of government which is why they are covered under the 1st Amendment. They considered an armed citizenry to be the next level of protection from government which is why they are covered by the 2nd Amendment. Did you see what happen to the reporter who asked Michael Bloomberg if he was going to disarm his personal security staff? He was accosted by Bloomberg's security staff. You take agenda driven leftist to an entirely new level. What is it like feeding off the hard working taxpayers of this country while you view them with such vile?

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  • cookie65January 30, 2013 - 7:18 am

    Tonia, no where does the 2nd Amendment state that you must own a gun. Please tell me you understand that simple fact. Please share with us why the 'red' counties are being billed for a fire tax and the 'blue' counties of the bay area and southern CA are not being billed for an earthquake tax? When your two brain cells bump into each other does it make a sound?

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  • RichardJanuary 30, 2013 - 7:58 am

    John, I dont think its as much Fregoli’s Syndrome as it is good political advice on how to appeal to the gun toting, 2nd amendment NRA member community which I believe he sees as his base for re-election. His press release, which smacks of political posturing, is well timed, with almost a thousand local gun enthusiast expected to attend the upcoming gun show and NRA fund raiser at the El Dorado County Fairgrounds. Sheriff D’Agostini has cleverly turned these events into political rally’s where he will be honored and admired as having stood up to the liberal Vice President of the United States of America, and hopefully be re-elected.

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  • EvelynJanuary 30, 2013 - 8:04 am

    "The County Sheriff:The Ultimate Check & Balance" - HERE

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  • TerryJanuary 30, 2013 - 9:06 am

    So our Sheriff goes on the record and says he will ignore an executive order and firmly stands by everyone having access to assault weapons.Gun control has never been about taking anyone’s guns. Why can’t people see that the NRA does not care about it’s members or gun safety? All the NRA cares about is letting the gun manufacturers make as much money as possible.What is wrong with limiting clip sizes to 10 rounds and limiting access to military weapons? That has nothing to do with taking anyone’s guns. When will people stop blindly following the NRA and gun nuts like our Sheriff and support gun safety. People will always be able to have as many handguns, rifles and shotguns as they can afford. The current debate is not about taking those from anyone. The current debate by the Sheriff is that he will ignore any new laws and has no problem with everyone in the county owning assault weapons. He also is one of the easiest Sheriffs in the state to get a concealed weapons permit from. That does not make me feel safer at all!

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  • R.J. CarterJanuary 30, 2013 - 9:24 am

    Simply because our Sheriff wants to defend the oath he took to protect our Constitution, Garon infers our Sheriff may have a mental condition called Fregoli’s Syndrome and calls his sanity into question..Mr. Garon fails to mention that the last 6 mass shootings were all committed by either registered Democrats and/or people from families having a far Left-wing Liberal background just like himself...Pointing fingers in the other direction is a perfect example of the hypocrisy that dwells in the minds of liberals.... In this latest rant against guns, Garon talks about the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, stating how 3,000 kids, die each year of gunshot wounds and asks "how is their freedom and happiness working out from the grave"?....Then, goes on to ask; "Where are the Christians on this moral issue"?....Yet, in true liberal form Garon never mentions the over 3000 kids that die just each day from the abortions his party directly endorses, instead he attacks our local Sheriff and our Constitution over the guns he so hates... For all you youngsters out there trying to figure out which political party you may want to register with in the future that's what Liberal's call "Logic"....

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  • Shingle SeniorJanuary 30, 2013 - 9:38 am

    Thank you Mr. Garon....your letter reaffirms my belief in the people of this county. Our Sheriff it playing politics with this issue and I wonder if the parents of the Sandy Hook children give a crap about the his politics of this issue. When the Sheriff comes up for election our family will remember the stand that this Sheriff took and let's just say that the votes will not be coming his way.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 30, 2013 - 9:40 am

    "Sheriff's Honor Roll" now up to over 230 sheriffs nationwide who have put the Obama Admin on notice to tread carefully on 2A issues, as our sheriff has done. And Jeff AKA Richard, with regard to your tirade about sheriffs and police cheifs (sic) on another thread, you cannot lump the two together. Sheriffs have much more responsibility, authority, and a larger jurisdiction than do police chiefs. While there may be numerous police chiefs in a county, there is only one sheriff. In Sac county, there are 7 incorporated cities, each with a police chief who is responsible for law enforcement in his city, but the sheriff is over the entire county, including the incorporated cities. So while we may have 15,000 or so police chiefs around the US, there are only around 3000 sheriffs. Of those, the number who have put the Obama administration on notice about 2A infringements is now over 200. Nearly the entire states of New Mexico and Utah have done so. Of the 58 counties in the very liberal state of California, 17 sheriffs have thus far done so as well. Interestingly enough, this doesn’t include large numbers from blue states, as, I assume, they have not even bothered to respond to the Veep as they are still giggling about the whole thing. Of the 23 counties in Wyoming, one of the most conservative and gun-friendly states in the union, I have yet to hear of even one of these letters from them. Of the 56 counties in Montana (another largely conservative and gun-friendly state), only about 7 have written letters so far. Even Alabama, with 67 counties, only 3 sheriffs have written the letters. Yep, 200 county sheriffs is only about 7%. Not much. Bit still significant nonetheless. And the number is growing. This movement may or may not amount to anything (depending on the Obama admin’s response to it), but it’s still noteworthy. My guess is, you’re offended on behalf of your president and his vice. That’s okay. Stand by your man Jeff AKA Richard, stand by your man.

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  • cookie65January 30, 2013 - 9:53 am

    The only problem with Sheriff D'Agostini penning a letter to the crash test dummy is finding someone to read it to him. Let's face it, when it comes to biden the elevator skips a couple of floors. What does that say about the double digit IQ's that re-elected this pair? That was the "most" historic aspect of obama election. The greatest number of double digit IQ voters ever.

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  • James E.January 30, 2013 - 9:56 am

    The Sheriff is a defender of the Constitution and knows which laws are Constitutional (non-Constitutional will not be obeyed), OR he is trolling for votes. Gosh, I wonder which? This is a tough one, I'll have to ponder this for awhile.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 30, 2013 - 9:56 am

    Right on target Mr. Carter! The LEFT are constantly in a state of hypocrisy. This was in one of my daily reads..."hypocrisy accuses others what it excuses in itself, says one thing but does another, puts popularity above principle, loves admiration but cuts corners when it comes to integrity". I think abortion is one of the most sickening and cowardice acts a human being could do to a defenseless life.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:01 am

    And BTW...the "Planned Parenthood" organization is nothing more than a "Planned Murder" organization!

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  • Jim RiordanJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:25 am

    Garon, if you are such a pantywaist "worrier" why don't you find another County to worry in. I will gladly donate the first $100 to your move. If anyone suffers from delusions in this County, you would be the number one candidate. Of all the crap you have written, this is truly the worst. The men in white suits should be there any minute to take you away . . . I would gladly cover the first $100 of that cost as well. Too bad God gave idiots like you fingers to type.

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  • RichardJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:28 am

    Herculean effort to distract from the Sheriff. Vic, is that you?

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  • Jim RiordanJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:33 am

    Well said RJ, hope all is well with you.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:35 am

    Jim, I'll put in the next $100 to "Garon Relocation Fund". $200 and counting. Anyone else?

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  • Jim RiordanJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:42 am

    Thanks Paddy, and thanks for your comments. Wonder how large our "moving fund for Garon" will grow to?

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  • DB SmithdJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:46 am

    Damn I hate spending money on a racist left wing idiot but count me in for a $100.00.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:49 am

    Jim and Paddy, That really is me, it was just a typo with the "d".

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  • James E.January 30, 2013 - 10:52 am

    DB, start a fund to buy me a 2013 Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE. I don't care about the color.

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  • cookie65January 30, 2013 - 10:54 am

    Garon is proof that public sector jobs keep shopping carts at the grocery store and hangtown haven less populated.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 30, 2013 - 10:57 am

    So are you in Cookie?

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  • R.J. CarterJanuary 30, 2013 - 11:06 am

    Yes Paddy, I agree....There should be some sort of "Catch & Release" program in place for repeat offenders such as Garon ..Like maybe we could bait him with a fresh croissant and a cheap glass of wine, then next thing he knows he'll be waking up in San Fransisco where liberals like him are free to spout nonsense, beg on corners and walk through the streets naked....LOL....Anyway, thanks Jim R.....It has been a rough couple years, but all behind me now, really looking forward to 2013...Thanks again...

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  • RichardJanuary 30, 2013 - 11:07 am

    Riordan, don’t be so cheap, you’ve got a lot more than that in your El Dorado County Sheriffs Air Squadron account, offer him $10,000. You should remember this is just the sheriff preparing for another staged performance at the gun show. Another, I will do what I want because I am the Sheriff, performance.

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  • Jack MartinJanuary 30, 2013 - 11:12 am

    Note how blowhard Garon attempts to frame the argument: "It would be useless for me to cite the reams of research, here and abroad, indicating that the single most reliable predictor of someone being shot is the ready availability of guns." What an asinine statement. How else are you going to be "shot"? But the deviousness of the question is the attempt to make the reader associate gun crime with all violent crime. With all the news regarding gun crimes recently, we've now seen multiple reports from the FBI, CDC, NAS that gun crimes are nowhere near the top of the list for violent deaths or injuries. One more example of Garon thinking that his opinion counts for fact. But his so-called facts have been measured, and have been found wanting (as usual).

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  • Jack MartinJanuary 30, 2013 - 11:18 am

    Almost forgot this juicy little tidbit. Garon challenges: "The good Sheriff also writes: “It is well-known and proven with facts, not emotional inference, that gun control of any kind has no effect on … crime.” Mr. D’Agostini would help his case if he cited a single “fact,” backed by research not funded by the NRA or Smith & Wesson, to support his claim. Of course, independent studies prove exactly the opposite of the Sheriff’s claims. Borrowing a page from the NRA, D’Agostini’s letter plays on ignorance and its twin progeny: fear and paranoia." Maybe Garon would believe the National Academy of Sciences report that found the following: There is no credible evidence that “right-to-carry” laws, which allow qualified adults to carry concealed handguns, either decrease or increase violent crime. To date, 34 states have enacted these laws. There is almost no evidence that violence-prevention programs intended to steer children away from guns have had any effects on their behavior, knowledge, or attitudes regarding firearms. More than 80 such programs exist. Research has found associations between gun availability and suicide with guns, but it does not show whether such associations reveal genuine patterns of cause and effect. Full report here, Garon: http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2004/12/17/naspanel/

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  • Patrice HockingJanuary 30, 2013 - 11:31 am

    Citizens, leaving the words "left", "right", "liberal", and "conservative" to be replaced with "as a citizen of the United States" would be more accurate. Do you as a Republican or Democrat agree with every D & R viewpoint? Most likely not. So why take such a hard line when arguing points? What really matters is the common good for all and that common good is keeping government small. Big government does not consider the true welfare of its citizens, only the control over those citizens. Lets define government as Democrats and Republicans - for it truly is that. Both sides are guilty of selling out this country. Obama just happens to be President now, but Bush did a great deal of damage too our freedoms and now Obama - especially a few weeks into his second term - going full out to remove as much of our freedoms as possible. Obama has even continued much of the work Bush started. Our founding fathers did not create the 2nd Amendment because of hunting or criminals, but to protect ourselves against an out of control government. You can cling to the idea that YOUR Democrat and Republican representatives CARE about you, or that they are working hard for you - but if you believe that then I am sure the tooth fairy still visits you at night as well. We have lost due process, the posse comitatus act is lost, and cameras watching YOU the citizen are everywhere. Big government and the media work overtime to put FEAR in to the populace, so much easier to control, to change laws, eliminate constitutional amendments, create a police state. And you my friends, are now living in that police state. The United Nations has also joined our police state by taking control of our communities through the environmental movement, SMART meters, emminent domain, taxing everything, and soon you will see complete control over how you as a citizen walk on this planet. You will not be able to step foot on forest land, you will not be able to own acreage, you will be taxed on water and have controlled use, even if you have well water. We, my friends, are more controlled by the government each and every day. Our Sheriff was absolutely correct in stating he would uphold the oath that he took. I feel much more secure in knowing that he is standing for his citizenry, not for the U.N., not for the corrupt government we have today. There are many Sheriff's all over the United States that have made the pledge to uphold their oath, as have many military and ex-military. I thank them all!!

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 30, 2013 - 12:03 pm

    Nice work Patrice.

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  • EvelynJanuary 30, 2013 - 1:15 pm

    Patrice, please submit your above as a Letter to the Editor. It deserves a much wider audience. And . . . thank you.

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  • RichardJanuary 30, 2013 - 1:26 pm

    Patrice, Conspiracy theorizing has flourished by many groups, but ya-all on the radical right have to be considered a strong contender for the uncontested winner.Your disparate conspiracy-based theory’s warning us against imaginary threats posed by U.S. government officials and agencies is unfounded. Your gracious thank-you to the sheriff for up-holding his pledge to defend us from the New World Order bogeymen is amusing at best. Let me remind you of some of the other fears right wing patriot groups and alarmist like your self fear; Chemtrails, Martial Law, FEMA Concentration Camps, Foreign Troops on U.S. Soil, 'Door-to-Door' Gun Confiscations, Government Plots, Population Control, The "Death Star", The Federal Reserve Conspiracy and my favorite, Foreign Troops on U.S. Soil.

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  • EvelynJanuary 30, 2013 - 1:53 pm

    SEVENTEEN TECHNIQUES FOR TRUTH SUPPRESSION - HERE - 5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned.

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  • ron jeremyJanuary 30, 2013 - 2:22 pm

    The people of eldorado county should be thankful that you have elected a sheriff who will take a stand against tyranny. Most of you that complain about about his resolution to up hold the U.S. Constitution are transplants anyways. Meaning your votes already destroyed the communtiy you left and now you have moved here to destroy this community. You transplants are not welcome here in eldorado county and you know it. Go back to San Francisco, Chicago, Berkley, Davis, or where ever filth you came from.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 30, 2013 - 2:24 pm

    Evelyn, you are right on top of it today.

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  • DeeJanuary 30, 2013 - 2:33 pm

    Evelyn-Hear!Hear!

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  • EvelynJanuary 30, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    Dee: Dave Martin (aka DC Dave) is the author of "17 Techniques". If you ever have time to explore his website, you'll find some superior material -- all his.

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  • cookie65January 30, 2013 - 3:12 pm

    Yes Paddy, I can't think of anything that would make Benjamin Franklin more proud than using his picture to relocate someone who has no regard or respect for all those who gave so much for his liberty.

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  • Jim RiordanJanuary 30, 2013 - 3:17 pm

    First thanks to RJ, may this year be a good'un for ya. Thank you Patrice, great job. Thanks Cookie. Thanks Paddy and DB. To Richard, and others whining about how much the RIGHT "wants guns", how is it that every major/mass shooting event in recent recorded history has been done by LIBERALs and DEMOCRATS, or deranged children of Democrats? You can all moan about the RIGHT defending the 2nd amendment yet it is your group of deranged know nothings who have done all the major killings? Are y'all just scared that if we right-leaning citizens purchase guns, they will somehow fall into the hands of your crazed liberal democrats and their braindead offspring? Don't you ever wonder why the mass killings are in almost every case, from democrats or democratic off spring? You people calling others "gun nuts" must be forgeting or purposely ignoring that the mass killings are mainly from the "gun-nuts" in your own democratic families. How do you explain that away? I'd like to hear that.

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  • cookie65January 30, 2013 - 3:30 pm

    Garon views the citizens as "them". Stop by any federal building and see why. Armed guards greet you at the door. These are buildings bought and paid for by the taxpayers, staff paid for by the taxpayers furnishings paid for by the taxpayers all designed to keep the taxpayers out.

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  • RichardJanuary 30, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    Very weak talking points Jim, you’re obviously not used to having any opposition. If your Republican Party arrogance and extremism continues, I would think you can look forward to even more.

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  • Jim RiordanJanuary 30, 2013 - 4:15 pm

    Richard, want some talking points? want to see who shot whom . . . see for your self . . oops darn, they were all democrats or "Progressive" democrats . . http://www.clashdaily.com/2013/01/the-5-worst-mass-murders-in-the-usa-with-a-firearm-came-from-democrats/ Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Gee where were the republican shooters. Guess those gun loving "rightys" were all at home while these happened.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 30, 2013 - 4:48 pm

    Richard, did you turn in your guns yet? Can someone ask Richard if he turned in his own guns yet? Like a pouty lover spurned, he's not speaking to me right now.

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  • JBeeJanuary 30, 2013 - 7:33 pm

    First, to support gun control, you have to either believe that the government would confiscate 100% of the illegal guns, or that law-breakers will suddenly start obeying the law. I believe neither such thing. Just look at the cities with the most restrictive gun control laws, Chicago for example. Not exactly a beacon of safety. Two, the Left has stated numerous times, unequivocally, that their ultimate goal is to ban all guns, following the footsteps of the Brits and Aussies among others. It's not a conspiracy theory, we have their exact and verifiable words. Three, I applaud the Sheriff for upholding his Oath of Office and the Constitution, as we all should. The Constitution protects us all. You might say it didn't protect those kids in Sandy Hook. And that's true, but no law would or could have protected them. No law can ever. Your gun control would simply take guns from decent, law abiding people. Four, as we're so freely diagnosing mental illness, I submit that liberalism is a mental illness. You people want to submit yourselves to rule by the state, so be it. But I'm not on board. The Constitution protects me from the state and from people like you. History has proven this point too many times. And lastly, you have no business telling me how to protect my family. You want to pull the AR-15 out of my hands, and replace it with what, a 6-round revolver? I guess I better not miss, and there better not be more than one bad guy. Do I think I'm going to need to protect myself? Not really. The chances are extremely slim. But that's not the point. There is still a chance I might need to. And if I do, I plan to be ready and I plan to win. Keep your opinions and your laws about my family's safety to yourself.

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  • RichardJanuary 30, 2013 - 7:47 pm

    Jim, Thank you for the web site referral: Once I wadded though a number of articles like, Horrific: North Korean parents eat their children after being driven mad by hunger and General Jones on reports of purging U.S. Military of ones unwilling to pass the litmus test of firing on Americans, I found your story. I also found it on thirty two other sites such as: Sig Forum, Freedom Roll Call, God Like Productions, Predator Master, Annoyed Man, The New Stalkers, Ruger Forum, Perfect Union, Minute Man News, The Blaze Soon, Free Public, Flaguns, Bikers of America, and they all had exactly the same article. I searched further and the consensus seems to be that it’s just not a creditable report, and originated from assertions made by Roger Hedgecock a right-wing radio show host, the meme that the five worst recent mass shootings were committed by registered Democrats. Hedgecock asserts, without providing any evidence or sources, that the Ft. Hood shooter, the Virginia Tech shooter, the Aurora Theater shooter and Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook infamy were all “registered Democrats”. He acknowledges that Klebold and Harris (the Columbine Colorado shooters) were too young to be registered voters but asserts, again without providing any evidence, that Harris and Klebold’s parents were progressives or liberal Democrats. The site you referred me to, ClashDaily.com, which bills it self as a,” mosh pit” of breaking news, edgy opinion, lots of attitude, and a call to action for God and country-loving patriots that love America’s founding documents and its Judeo-Christian worldview, and will defend the aforementioned with an unapologetic zeal, is so far to the right, it fell off my computer screen. Jim, the charges are utterly baseless. I would guess your side kick, Patio Chair, gets his information for the same sources. Jim,you’re an extremist! Divinely inspired as you may feel you’re an extremist if you get your information from and believe the information posted on the aforementioned extremist sites.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 30, 2013 - 8:47 pm

    JBee, that's an awful lot o' common sense for one post. Very well spoken. Don't be a stranger now.

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  • Richard-Reply to Jim RiordanJanuary 30, 2013 - 9:26 pm

    (Jim Riordan) , thank you for the web site referral: Once I wadded though a number of articles like, Horrific: North Korean parents eat their children after being driven mad by hunger and General Jones on reports of purging U.S. Military of ones unwilling to pass the litmus test of firing on Americans, I found your story. I also found it on thirty two other sites such as: God Like Productions, Ruger Forum , Bikers of America, Sig Forum, Freedom Roll Call, Predator Master, Annoyed Man, The New Stalkers, Ruger Forum, Perfect Union, Minute Man News, The Blaze Soon, Free Public, Flaguns, and they all had the same article word for word.

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  • RichardJanuary 30, 2013 - 11:37 pm

    Searching further I found the general consensus seems to be that it’s just not a creditable report.....

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  • RichardJanuary 31, 2013 - 9:05 am

    First transmitted verbally by right-wing radio show host Roger Hedgecock, who first suggested that the five worst recent mass shootings were committed by registered Democrats. Hedgecock Claims, without providing sources or any evidence, that the Ft. Hood , the Virginia Tech , the Aurora Theater and Sandy Hook shooters were all “reg. liberal Democrats”. He acknowledges that Harris /Klebold of Columbine, were to young to register. but asserts, again without providing any evidence, that both parents were liberal Democrats. What do you think, Jim, is the rest of the media wrong or do your right wing blogs have it right?

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  • Red BirkensJanuary 31, 2013 - 9:56 am

    Richard- I really admire your patience with Riordan. He is an insecure, terrified, loudmouth. As your research revealed, he will gullibly accept anything on the internet that supports his paranoid world view. You will never get through to him. His problem cannot be solved with rational discussion. It is more of a mental health issue.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 31, 2013 - 10:04 am

    Richard, besides Jeff you now have one other admirer. I knew you could finally get through to someone.

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  • KristinJanuary 31, 2013 - 10:07 am

    Cookie65, I love your comments. Straight Up! How about if we pass a law that makes it illegal for a criminal to take more than 7 bullets to a crime scene? After all, there must be a level playing field, correct? Both criminal and victim have to have a relatively equal chance of surviving a gun fight. If I, as a victim can't hit the mark with my allotted bullets, I guess that's just tough for me, eh? It's a literal crap shoot.

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  • RichardJanuary 31, 2013 - 10:32 am

    Thank you Red, confirming his extremist ties was a shock. I'll disregard his comments along with several others in the future. I am intrigued though over his relationship with the Sheriff, recent fire in south county that reports said smelled like pot, Sheriffs Air Squadron and a recent letter to the vice President, but not intrigued enough to pursue it and maybe get run down in an intersection.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 31, 2013 - 11:46 am

    So who's talkin' conspiracy theories now, eh Ritchie? Cross the sheriff in this town and you're a dead man, according to Richard/Jeff.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 31, 2013 - 11:49 am

    And if anyone crosses Richard/Jeff you may make it on the FBI's most wanted list.

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  • Jim RiordanJanuary 31, 2013 - 11:55 am

    To Red Birkens . . . Insecure?? Terrified?? Gullible? Obviously you have never met me. You must have me confused with one of your lib buddies. You creeps just cannot understand the simple statement that has been around forever: "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns". Did I make that up. Nope. Has it been proven again and again? Yup! Does that make me terrified, nope, am I insecure about it? Nope. And I have never suffered from any mental issssshyous, istchues, ictchyous, itchyyous. . . . Dang.

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  • Clef. TrebleJanuary 31, 2013 - 1:16 pm

    Red- I know Jim R, and he is generally a nice guy and not stupid. He posseses some admirable skills. But if the topic turns to politics he can be very irrational. I think some of your theories about his personality may be accurate.

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  • Red BaronJanuary 31, 2013 - 1:29 pm

    I know Clef. T intimately and have for many years. He is generally a nice guy but a little bit stupid. Some say that comes from his mother's side of the family. He possesses few skills and can be found by the side of the road hitchhiking on sunny days. Don't offer him a ride. He's prone to irrational behavior when around strangers. The police have had to deal with him many times.

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  • Riordan et al;January 31, 2013 - 9:35 pm

    Good letter John Garon; If nothing else it exposed a proven right wing extremist: "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns". What a flake

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  • James StewartFebruary 02, 2013 - 2:29 pm

    I really appreciate Sheriff D'Agostini standing up for our rights given in our Constitution. He is a stand up guy and I and my friends will remember his stand when it comes time for his re-election. We will also remember any other elected officials of this county that give him any grief for his stance.

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  • MaydayFebruary 02, 2013 - 4:18 pm

    RE: D’Agostini’s “Letter” is symptomatic of someone suffering from Fregoli’s Syndrome, aka “delusional paranoia.” If this were the case, armed citizens would be in a position to protect themselves if such paranoia were a threat to our life, liberty and property. Totalitarian regimes are notorious for confiscating weapons before they enslave their population in which case tens of thousands of innocents are slaughtered. The founders had it right: "To disarm the people [is] the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason ... and so does our sheriff.

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  • William WebbFebruary 03, 2013 - 8:30 am

    We fully support the Sheriff and totally disagree with Mr.Garon's comments!!!!!!

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  • Heather CooperFebruary 03, 2013 - 10:33 am

    I SUPPORT SHERRIFF D'AGOSTINI!

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  • Leslie PhillipsFebruary 03, 2013 - 10:36 am

    I Support Sheriff D’Agostini.

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  • Steven CooperFebruary 03, 2013 - 10:51 am

    I SUPPORT SHERIFF D'AGOSTINI. I SUPPORT AMERICA.

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  • Heather CooperFebruary 03, 2013 - 11:05 am

    John Garon, the 2nd amendment is unquestionable in the Constitution for a reason. To protect us from a tyrannical government. Where do we draw the line on government control? Doesn't constant new restrictions by the government MAKE a tyrannical government? Yes they do. Especially when those restrictions by the government are meant to take away our protection from the government. I say it stops here.

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  • Concerned CitizenFebruary 03, 2013 - 12:58 pm

    Thank you Sheriff D'Agostini for upholding your Oath to the Constitution. I support and respect you 100%.

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  • Fly on the wallFebruary 03, 2013 - 1:06 pm

    I think it's important to note that the Garon's had a "house party" for OWS in the name of Van Jones - the self-avowed Communist that was forced to resign as Obama's green jobs czar. He and his ilk are the enemy of America. Remember this when you see his (and his comrades) comments which are completely antithetical to what America is and how she was founded.

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  • DB SmithFebruary 03, 2013 - 1:38 pm

    Fly on the wall, if what you say is true regarding Garon throwing a house party for the likes of Van Jones then that would confirm my thoughts about this low life scum sucker Garon who gets his jollies from fanning the race card. These two are the kind of people that keep division and racism alive. Maybe the Garon relocation funds should be directed another way.

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  • EvelynFebruary 03, 2013 - 2:13 pm

    Being totally out of it when it comes to "in people" I had to look up Van Jones to learn why he's considered a big deal sort of guy. Don't know anything at all about the entertainment rumor, but if true, it does explain John's apoplexy last year over Dawn Hodson's Agenda 21 series. Speaking of "agendas' .............

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  • James E.February 03, 2013 - 3:14 pm

    DB, IF there was a Van Jones event, why wasn't I (an alleged pinko liberal) invited? My feelings are hurt. Can anyone come up with the guest list? Oh, I have learned one thing from today's comments: Larry is an American.

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  • DB SmithFebruary 03, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    Colonel, loved the intro by Alicia Keys on the keys. Are you telling me that if you were invited to a Van Jones event you would go willing? Please no BS on your response if any.

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  • James E.February 03, 2013 - 5:50 pm

    DB, were I invited to a Van Jones event I would not go. No BS.

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  • DB SmithFebruary 03, 2013 - 6:05 pm

    Colonel, I probably should ask why you wouldn't go but I'm going to leave it at that and say thank you sir!

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 03, 2013 - 6:40 pm

    DB....My friend James is merely involving ...Soon he will be walking upright.....

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  • James E.February 03, 2013 - 7:03 pm

    R.J., I feel myself evolving, but not into a Tea/Republican. Perhaps a more complex liberal.

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  • DB SmithFebruary 03, 2013 - 7:58 pm

    RJ, there is hope. Colonel, the "Complex Liberal Party" ummm. I am exhausted after the game and I was just watching.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 03, 2013 - 8:10 pm

    But James..There's no such critter as a complex liberal......You must be evolving into a Tea/Republican...LOL....

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  • Fly on the wallFebruary 03, 2013 - 8:50 pm

    The Van Jones house parties were hosted by volunteers through MoveOn.org. To attend, one simply had to sign up. It existed and happened and one such party was hosted by the Garon's. I do not have the time nor the inclination to make up lies and then waste time posting those lies. The ones to be frightened of are those who wish to disarm their fellow man. There is much literature behind the founders' reasoning. We have the Bill of Rights which codifies our God given rights to preserve and defend our life and liberty. Those who wish to deny us those rights would be the "extremists". Please read up on what happened after Hitler and Chairman Mao disarmed their countrymen. Finally, simply because one does not believe something, does not make it not so. The truth will still exist. A lie is still a lie, no matter how many times it is said. May God bless and protect those officials who have sworn to defend the Constitution and actually do so. PS The police Chief in San Diego agrees with Obama and has stated that if politicians do it correctly, Americans could be fully disarmed in one generation. Registration then confiscation. To the name callers I beg you - learn your history! It repeats itself.

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  • TLCFebruary 03, 2013 - 8:55 pm

    The 2nd amendment is short and sweet and ends with "...shall not be infringed." Why is that so difficult to understand? I refuse to be a victim. Thank you Sheriff for standing by your oath of office as ALL elected officials are sworn to do - but often don't.

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  • EvelynFebruary 03, 2013 - 9:08 pm

    "Soros Money Financed Communist Van Jones" - When the list of donors to the Van Jones “Green for All” organization is examined, one name stands out-the Open Society Institute of billionaire George Soros. The Green for All 2008 annual report is also notable for the pictures of the powerful people who associated with Jones. They include House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former Vice President Al Gore. ... We have previously noted that Soros has escaped press scrutiny because he has funded a variety of news media organizations, in addition to major elements of the Democratic Party. Soros was a major backer of Obama during the 2008 campaign. - HERE - (I have intentionally not quoted the most inflammatory parts of the article.)

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  • James E.February 03, 2013 - 10:20 pm

    I'm not so sure Van Jones is a Communist -- after all he was "outed" as a Communist by Glenn Beck. What does that tell you? Over the years on this site I been called a radical Marxist Communist, etc., etc. I am, of course, not. Just a liberal. I killed Communists in Vietnam. Now, I wouldn't have done that if I were a Communist, would I? So, if I'm not a Communist, perhaps Van Jones is also not a Communist. Or, do you really believe that nut case Glenn Beck? After all, he was kicked off Fox News and that takes some doing.

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  • James E.February 03, 2013 - 10:32 pm

    Evelyn, go ahead and quote the most inflammatory parts of the article. We can take it.

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  • Michael MiroFebruary 04, 2013 - 4:54 am

    You're right, John - it would be useless. Because there is nothing to support your position. Even the CDC, tasked with coming up with anything to support "gun control" found nothing. The so-called "assault weapons" ban that was allowed to expire in 2004 was shown to have no discernible effect on gun violence. If you take a moment to examine what's going on, you might discover that the Sheriff is spot-on. Because with Biden's proposals - just like Obamacare - the devil is in the details. And those details spell de facto registration, followed by confiscation. ...But you knew that, didn't you?

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 8:25 am

    James: I have no idea whether the Vietnamese people you killed were communists. Possibly, had John Kennedy not been assassinated, you might not have killed any Vietnamese people at all. As for Van Jones, I don't KNOW what political label fits him, particularly since 12 hours ago I didn't know he existed. But a bit of research does show that he is a beneficiary both of George Soros and of the taxpayer. I'll leave you with this: EXCLUSIVE - VAN JONES: INAUGURAL ADDRESS PROVES OBAMA'S A 'COMMUNITARIAN' - HERE - After President Obama’s second inaugural address, Van Jones, former Obama White House "green jobs" czar, praised the speech, calling it “Djobama Unchained” (after the controversial movie Django Unchained, about a freed slave taking revenge). On Wednesday night, during a lecture at Loyola University Chicago, I asked Jones what he meant. He explained that while President Obama is not a socialist, he is, in fact, a "communitarian."

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 8:30 am

    . . . and Michael Miro, stick around, PLEASE.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 8:31 am

    Fly on the wall: Same goes for you.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 8:37 am

    "More Taxpayer Millions for Van Jones and His Nest of Vipers" - ********** (I'm now done with Van Jones. Back to the subject at hand.)

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 8:39 am

    (Oops. The above ran amok)

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 8:41 am

    "More Taxpayer Millions for Van Jones and His Nest of Vipers" - HERE

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 8:48 am

    Evelyn, being a beneficiary of money from Soros and the taxpayer does not make one a Communist. Guess only Democrats get funds from obscenely rich people, right? As for a Communitarian, I have no idea what that means. A new word. Wonder what the definition might be? As for your implication of my killing the Vietnamese "people," my cavalry unit restricted ourselves to the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army. I didn't fly at 5,000 feet spraying gunfire on just anyone. I flew at 20 feet and could see the soldiers I engaged rather than women and children. And may I say Evelyn when you first appeared on this site you were a balanced contributor -- as time progressed you have morphed into a junior Dee/Cookie. Not a good team to be associated with.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 9:07 am

    James: I agree that being a Soros/taxpayer beneficiary doesn't define "communist". And I doubly agree that not only Democrats are funded by the obscenely rich. My postings over time will show that I favor neither party. Please elaborate what, in terms of your lexicon, it would mean to be "balanced" contributor.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 9:56 am

    P.S. James: Care to comment on Van Jones' 1) praising Obama's inaugural address as “Djobama Unchained” (after the controversial movie Django Unchained, about a freed slave taking revenge), and 2) calling Obama a "communitarian"?

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:03 am

    communitarianism: a communal system based on cooperative groups that practice some of the principles of communism - HERE

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:16 am

    While awaiting James' balancing guidance -- and other stuff!!! -- THIS</b 1990 piece, COMMUNIST GUN CONTROL: The best testimony to the power of an armed populace is the vigor with which the Warsaw Pact dictatorships enforced gun control. When the Communists took over Bulgaria on September 9, 1944, they immediately confiscated every weapon in private possession. In East Germany, private gun ownership was outlawed, although citizens were allowed to rent hunting guns for one-day periods. Immediately after World War II, Hungary was governed by a coalition of democrats and Communists. Preparing the way for a total Communist takeover Laszlo Rajk, the Communist Minister of the Interior, ordered the dissolution of all pistol and hunting clubs, as well as of other organizations which might prove a threat to government power. Rajk claimed he acted "in order to more efficiently protect the democratic system of the state." Poland, on the other hand, did allow limited ownership of registered target guns with a license from the so-called "Citizen's Militia." In December 1981, Poland's dictator, General Jaruzelski, decided that Solidarnosc had gone too far. He declared martial law, arrested all the pro-democracy leaders he could find, and ordered all firearms and ammunition be turned over to the government.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:18 am

    Not again!

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 10:19 am

    Evelyn, I can only comment on the possible meaning of Communitarian. My guess is that Communitarian does not refer to Communism, but rather to Community. As for the movie reference? Could it mean that Obama won and that he would now fight back against the Tea/Republicans in his second term? As for your balance, your referenced sites are overwhelming far right -- as example, the site you referenced concerning Communitarian is from Breitbart. Not exactly a balanced site would you say?

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:20 am

    . . . THIS 1990 piece, COMMUNIST GUN CONTROL . . .

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 10:23 am

    Evelyn, as you may have noticed I don't get into the gun debate as it is so complex that I don't see an answer pro or con.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:23 am

    Score one for you, James. You don't like Breitbart. Now, please, evaluate the contents of the posted article.

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 10:26 am

    Evelyn, I did evaluate it -- see below. I cannot see inside the head of Mr. Jones, so I did my best. Perhaps you can tell us exactly what he means. As for Breitbart they are anti-anti-anti and a horrible resource.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:32 am

    (1) In this particular instance not much needs to be evaluated other than whether Van Jones was correctly reported. The article lacks depth. (2) Which sites, James, do you consider adequately "balanced" to merit consideration? i.e. where do you turn to for information and analysis?

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 10:35 am

    Evelyn, another site from the right side. Piece (Communist Gun Control) written by Dave Kopel of the Independence Institute, a far right think tank in Golden, Colorado. Don't you ever visit left or center web sites? Or do you only find "truth" on the far right.

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 10:37 am

    Off to the dentist. Hang in there Evelyn.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:39 am

    Video (18 min): HERE Van Jones at Loyola University, Jan. 23, 2013 (as quoted at Breitbart)

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 10:52 am

    OK, back for a few -- dentist delayed until 1PM. Evelyn, I think you are beginning to obsess over Van Jones. Calm.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 10:54 am

    For James, post-dental visit - You have dismissed mine at 10:16 am as being the work of the "far right". I, however, suggest a different criteria: Is the information TRUE, or is the information FALSE? ********** The best testimony to the power of an armed populace is the vigor with which the Warsaw Pact dictatorships enforced gun control. When the Communists took over Bulgaria on September 9, 1944, they immediately confiscated every weapon in private possession. In East Germany, private gun ownership was outlawed, although citizens were allowed to rent hunting guns for one-day periods. Immediately after World War II, Hungary was governed by a coalition of democrats and Communists. Preparing the way for a total Communist takeover Laszlo Rajk, the Communist Minister of the Interior, ordered the dissolution of all pistol and hunting clubs, as well as of other organizations which might prove a threat to government power. Rajk claimed he acted "in order to more efficiently protect the democratic system of the state." Poland, on the other hand, did allow limited ownership of registered target guns with a license from the so-called "Citizen's Militia." In December 1981, Poland's dictator, General Jaruzelski, decided that Solidarnosc had gone too far. He declared martial law, arrested all the pro-democracy leaders he could find, and ordered all firearms and ammunition be turned over to the government.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 11:02 am

    James, I posted the Van Jones video for the eventuality that you care to determine whether Breitbart (which you dismiss) quoted Van Jones accurately. You are letting yourself off the hook by characterizing websites rather than taking the trouble to evaluate specific material. So, again: Which sites, James, do you consider adequately "balanced" to merit consideration? i.e. where do you turn to for information and analysis?

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 11:07 am

    Evelyn, I tried to watch that video site but couldn't turn up the volume enough to hear it. If it's Van Jones, then I'm sure he said what he said. Where do I turn to for information and analysis? Why, to you of course because your sites are 100% accurate. Well, to Dee and Cookie too. Don't want to leave them out and hurt their feelings.

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  • DB SmithFebruary 04, 2013 - 11:09 am

    Colonel, I'm disappointed. Last night you suggested that maybe you were evolving into a "more complex liberal" but now the gun debate is "too complex" for you to discuss? I think maybe you may have some honest feelings about the debate but you don't want to upset your run of the mill liberal. I've never known you to be quiet about anything so come on and let it out. You'll feel much better and it may take the edge off of going to the dentist.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 11:13 am

    James: You are being flip and evasive. Sometimes it appears that your primary function is to redirect conversation.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 11:20 am

    Now I get to laugh. Above, James characterized Dave Kopel as "far right". Have just checked. "Politically he is a lifelong registered Democrat but a confessed small government libertarian at heart who voted for Ralph Nader." ********** James, where DO you get your information and analysis. Or do you make it up as you go along?

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 11:21 am

    Evelyn, it's my legal training. Guess you've never argued with someone with legal training? As example, when you demand specific answers from me, never forget that I'm not your monkey to be drawn down the path of your choosing. Keep those "balanced" sites coming. Oh, and just because Communist countries seized guns, doesn't mean that ours will. After all, we are a Communist country only in the minds of the Tea Party and some Republicans.

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 11:24 am

    Bye, Evelyn, have to get ready to go to the dentist. Think about me not being your monkey.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 11:24 am

    Dave Kopel Website - HERE - From elsewhere: Kopel earned a B.A. in history with highest honors from Brown University, and won the National Geographic Society Prize for best History thesis with a biography of Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.[1] He graduated magna cum laude from the University of Michigan Law School. He was also a contributing editor of the Michigan Law Review.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 11:28 am

    James: We can agree you're not a monkey.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 04, 2013 - 12:23 pm

    I just watched Obama's speech on gun control and noticed that afterwards Obama walked to where representatives from various police and sheriff's departments stood....Obama reached out to each one to shake hands, most did, but some obviously refused to shake has hand, some turned away, others wouldn't even make eye contact.....Oops........

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 3:25 pm

    DB, I don't discuss it because I see it as complex without easy answers. Somewhere between taking your guns (and my pistol) and doing nothing is the answer. But, I have no idea where the answer is on that continuum. Therefore, I don't discuss it.

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 3:38 pm

    R.J., the ones who refused to shake hands were germ obsessed. The ones who turned away were trying to get a jump on the parking lot and rush hour traffic. The ones who wouldn't meet his eye were shy. See, no problemo.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 04, 2013 - 4:04 pm

    James...Thank you ...I knew there had to be a logical explanation....I would hate to think the leader of the free world has Cooties...

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 5:20 pm

    R.J., you date yourself by mentioning cooties. People don't have cooties anymore. P.S. Do you remember the folded paper cootie detector?

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  • James E.February 04, 2013 - 5:29 pm

    Evelyn, Van Jones, an agressive progressive, real name is Anthony "Kapel" Jones. Dave "Kopel," a Democrat working for a conservative think tank writes an article about Anthony "Kapel" Jones. Kapel, Kopel? Are they one and the same? May be a conspiracy here.

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  • EvelynFebruary 04, 2013 - 5:36 pm

    Dunno, James. Do some research and report back.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 04, 2013 - 5:37 pm

    James.....Yes, back then the folded paper cootie detector was standard issue to defend yourself from the "smelly kid" in class....Wait, now that I think back, I may have been the "smelly kid" in class.....

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