Monday, April 21, 2014

D’Agostini’s visit to the lion’s den


Chris Daley’s report of March 15, “Sheriff takes his second amendment talk into the lion’s den,” is a good snapshot of D’Agostini’s meeting in front of the Democratic Women Club of El Dorado County. (N.B. They’re lionesses, not ‘lions.’)

Unfortunately, Chris does not fully convey the contrast between the two speakers: D’Agostini on one hand and Dr. Larry Beutler on the other. D’Agostini comes across for what he is: a typical gun-lovin’, gun-totin’ cop who, according to his own words, “belongs to the Tea Party because he believes what the party stands for.” Lest we wondered if D’Agostini was politically moderate, his letter to VP Biden, besides being a cheap political stunt, makes him look like one of his TP buddies: extremist to the extreme.

On the other side of the lectern was Dr. Larry Beutler, a recognized expert on terrorism and gun violence, author of 26 books on the subject, as well as countless professional articles. Dr. Beutler is professor emeritus at UCSB and visiting professor at Stanford. His bona fides as a man of science are beyond reproach.

Dr. Beutler brought facts and statistics galore to the presentation. Far from calling Beutler’s data into question with “facts,” D’Agostini simply brought bombast and his favorite word: “knuckleheads.” According to the good sheriff, if only we got rid of the knuckleheads, we’d all be safe. He never told us how we can pre-emptively sort “knuckleheads” from non-knuckleheads without doing away with the Bill of Rights. He never explained the process that turns a jilted lover, a jealous husband, a drunken, angry man and a kid who found his father’s loaded pistol from “knucklehead” to “dead.” Nor did he make the biggest connection of all: suicide and knuckleheads. All he offered were Tea Party and NRA nostrums that asked listeners to suspend critical thinking. Perhaps Mr. D’Agostini thought he was still addressing the bobbleheads at the GOP Women Club.

The studies and the evidence cited by Dr. Beutler connecting gun violence with the easy availability of guns made no difference to the sheriff. He did mention that for every independent, peer-reviewed study Dr. Beutler cited, there was another proving the opposite. He did not cite a single such study because none exists.

From the very beginning, most members of the audience realized that D’Agostini was not there to enlighten, or teach or offer insights into gun violence; he was there to regurgitate NRA and Gun Owners of America propaganda and ensure his re-election two years hence.

Yet, D’Agostini and Dr. Beutler, theoretically, have a lot in common. Both are in the investigation business: one into crime and the other into science. A good cop and a good scientist operate on the same principle, the “scientific method.” They gather evidence from as many sources as possible, analyze it, and come to conclusions based on that evidence, and the evidence seldom points to “knuckleheads.”

Why Sheriff D’Agostini, a civil servant, cannot put his personal and political biases aside, and accept the evidence that every single, reputable organization and social scientist recognizes is beyond my comprehension. But it does raise an important observation: If the Sheriff is as biased in his investigations as he is in looking at causes of gun violence, then justice is not well served.


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Discussion | 53 comments

  • cookie65March 22, 2013 - 6:02 am

    It must be miserable to be you. Being so far above the rest of us must be extremely lonely. Clinging to what little sanity you have left. Forever trying to convince yourself that only you know what is best for society. Having to deal with the results of leftism and trying to figure out ways to blame everyone else for it. The Bill of Rights must be such a thorn in your side. Just the idea of freedom runs contrary to everything you believe. Wasn’t it the “experts” with “facts and statistics” that created the utter lunacy known as “gun-free” zones? Isn’t it the experts whose best ideas have led to the most violent places in America? Aren’t the experts the ones who have filled our kids up with psychotropic drugs which are involved in virtually every mass shooting? Don’t you support the termination of 50 million pregnancies since 1973? I would bet that the expert Beutler, using his unequalled gift of foresight and intuition believed that obama would bring real change. We can all see how wrong he and you were on that topic as well. It would seem from the tripe you strung together here that your version of utopia is the complete disarmament of American citizens. The facts and statistics don’t lie, the most dangerous places in America are the places where people like Beutler and you have done exactly what you claim is the solution. And the safest places in America have told people like you and Beutler to go pound sand. To have reality right in front of your face and not see it is not a sign of intelligence. I doubt that you and Beutler together could pour p*ss out of a boot with the directions on the heal. You and Beutler don’t care about gun violence or the loss of innocent lives, you only care about making the citizens of this country subjects of a tyrannical government. Leftism is more dangerous and destroys more innocent lives than guns, so if it were innocent lives you were concerned with you would be trying to ban leftism. I have always been fascinated why the intellectually arrogant are always the most clueless people on earth.

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  • R.J. CarterMarch 22, 2013 - 7:44 am

    First, a room full of under-informed MSNBC worshiping liberals with their arms crossed and scowls on their faces does not, comprise a "Lion's Den"....Only Liberals see themselves as Lions.. I'm sure Sheriff D’Agostini found them about as threatening as gathering of fuzzy bunnies and glitter-covered unicorns....Secondly, the Sheriff is sworn to protect our Constitution, yet Mr. Garon seems to feel our 2nd Amendment Rights are somehow better interpreted by some wacko, left-wing college professor who makes a living selling his thoughts and indoctrinating students into socialism....Finally, If the day comes when the gun-less Mr. Garon ever finds himself cowering under his bed as some bloodthirsty, drug-crazed SOB, is ransacking his home, instead of calling 911, I think he should just call the esteemed "man of science" professor Beutler for his thoughts.......

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  • Walking TallMarch 22, 2013 - 8:13 am

    When a person stands up and speaks out and then holds the views as his own, he/she must be ready to be attacked by those with different points of view. Stand ready to be labeled as a far left/right supporter or for having a personal adgenda opposed to others. What the Sheriff has done is to state his position as a defender of citizen's rights and the constitution for which he is sworn to do. The Sheriff should be thanked for doing what we elected him to do and standing/walking tall as we hoped all our elected officals would. That said we also want a strong Sheriff that will take on the GOB network and disban them and bring back an honest Sheriff's Department for all to be proud of. The city/county government here needs a thorough cleaning and those who do crimes must do the time, thus removing the corruption and doubt and replacing it with faith/support and trust. Great values to have! Those who will say that this is only being done for a re-election bid should take a close look at what our Sheriff has and is saying and not focus on an election that is two years away. Look at his report card after his term is nearing end and then make an informed decision and vote accordingly, however take all of what he has done to base your vote upon. It is easy to point a finger at someone or thing but remember when you point a finger three are pointing back at you. Walk the walk and talk the talk but be ready to be watched and held accountable for your actions and judged for your motives as we all should be.

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  • DB SmithMarch 22, 2013 - 8:18 am

    When I see the name Garon anymore I immediately think of the word "knucklehead". It was just last year this idiot, racist knucklehead told a story about being accosted in the Home Depot parking lot by some big bad guy wearing an NRA cap. He feared for his life and was looking for a gun to defend himself and his billboard sign on top of his car and if he would of got his hands on a gun we would have been reading a different story in the paper. After he visited the Home Depot restroom to clean himself up he ran home and wrote a letter to the MD (and probably others) about the incident. I seriously doubt anything ever happen as there was no mention of a police report or witnesses but just a story. Anybody that would drive around this county with an Obummer billboard sign strapped to the top of his car is certainly a knucklehead idiot and would be asking for trouble. His comments are predictable and have no value to me.

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  • EvelynMarch 22, 2013 - 8:28 am

    Larry Beutler is a psychologist. His website is here. (1) Where are the above-mentioned 26 books on terrorism and gun violence? (2) What are Beutler's qualifications as a constitutional expert?

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  • EvelynMarch 22, 2013 - 8:33 am

    "The Myth of Self-Correcting Science" - HERE

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  • EvelynMarch 22, 2013 - 8:35 am

    "What to Do About Scientific Fraud in Psychology?" HERE

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  • cookie65March 22, 2013 - 8:42 am

    garon, beutler and obama have all the makings for menage a trois. My apologize to anyone sitting down to breakfast.

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  • EvelynMarch 22, 2013 - 8:53 am

    "Why psychology isn't science" - HERE

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  • cookie65March 22, 2013 - 8:56 am

    Here is a letter written to the child-who-would-be-king from a survivor of Columbine. It actually contains evidence of a working and useful mind unlike the complete waste of the alphabet that comes from the bottomless pit of stupidity this letter to the editor contains.

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  • Jim RiordanMarch 22, 2013 - 9:18 am

    John Garon. Greatest accomplishment: Makes many OTHER liberals appear somewhat logical and knowledgeable. WORST drawback: Ecological disaster in the form of wasting precious EDCO resources in the form of air, water and food.

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  • cookie65March 22, 2013 - 9:21 am

    Remember when the mouth-breathers like garon and beutler were praising the election of obama because he was going to transform our image around the world? According to them he was gonna make the rest of the world like us. According to The USA Today our image around the world is now worse than it was under Bush. At least braindead leftists are consistant, consitantly wrong.

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  • 1036-FrankMarch 22, 2013 - 10:04 am

    This is an old liberal narrative, the only thing left out was asking where the Sheriff's banjo and jug of shine was. These super brilliant liberals are so highly evolved that it is beyond us to question their motives, right. They know what is best, just ask them. They have done a wonderful job putting another 60 million on welfare and another 50 million on SSI, wonder what their next trick will be. Did the brilliant liberal tell everyone how he was going to disarm the felons they love to release early and on low bail for one while they are working on the next felony? No, he wants to disarm the law abiding so the criminals will have an easier time of it and leave the border open and declare amnesty for 20 million new liberals demanding free services and tax money, then open the prison gates not to mention the redistribution of other's money and property because of a new liberal invented disability called severe "lack of achievement syndrome" .

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  • DB SmithMarch 22, 2013 - 10:17 am

    Yes Frank! And Biden says..."They're going to put y'all back in chains". The millions that are on welfare and other government entitlements are already chained up by big government and they don't even realized it. They can't fart crooked without asking the government what they will do for them about that. They can't think for themselves and are dependent which is just how the big liberal government wants it to be.

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  • RichardMarch 22, 2013 - 7:45 pm

    Tea parties new savior Karl Rove, unbelievable. Isn’t he the guy in 2012, who’s political machine, American Crossroads, poached almost $80 million from donors across America making the entire board of director wealthy then losing [nearly] every single race in which they were engaged. Seems like this gang including our tea party sheriff doesn’t really care if they win on lose every campaign as long as their making lots of money.

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  • EvelynMarch 22, 2013 - 9:38 pm

    You know, Richard, the whole business of plucking motes from the eyes of others gets a bit tedious. To some extent I understand why it's done -- the other guys do it. But that's not good enough reason. At the top there are people of all political persuasions not deserving of our respect. They are just opportunistic vultures. The Dems have them, the Repubs and the Tea Party, too. What makes adherents of any one group so superior?

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  • EvelynMarch 23, 2013 - 6:37 am

    Stealing a correspondent's words: "Note to Washington, DC: We will limit or turn in our guns AFTER you hand in your own guns, dismantle secret service protection for each and every politician and walk the streets and sleep in your bed at night unarmed and unprotected like you expect us to do ... lead by example and turn yours in first plus those billions of hollow points, dear government."

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  • EvelynMarch 23, 2013 - 8:05 am

    To know some of the real issues facing us and our neighbors, DO watch this VIDEO (1hr 8min): "Sheriffs Stand TALL for the Constitution" - here

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  • EvelynMarch 23, 2013 - 8:08 am

    Oops. Above, forgot to make bold HERE

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 8:45 am

    Richard, you seem to be very concerned over Carl Rove, The Tea Party and some allegations over $80 million. Everyone here knows you repeat whatever the leftist talking points of the day are, and you have a total dependence on being told what to believe but do you have any concern over the $6 trillion obama has added to the national debt? I doubt anyone here gives Carl Rove a second thought or bothers to care what he does or says. After all he is just some talking head who gets some media attention on occasion. We have more important things to be concerned over. The destruction of the private sector, the overwhelming debt, endless taxes and regulations, 47 million on food stamps, 23million out of work, trillions in public sector obligations, Benghazi cover-up, nuclear Iran and North Korea, open borders, the release of thousands of criminal illegals, a president and an AG who disregard the Constitution of the United States and actually conduct criminal behavior from the highest office in the land. Do you have any concern over the details of obamacare we are getting a bigger picture of everyday and what it is going to do the best healthcare system on the planet? Do you have any concern on the crash test dummy biden costing the taxpayers over ½ million dollars for one night stay in Paris while we are already beyond recoverable debt? At least attempt to something other than a gigantic useful idiot endlessly whining about silly stupid nonsensical things that are meaningless to the real issues going on in this country. How does one become as clueless as you? Ignorance is a choice, intellect becomes an issue when you choose ignorance repeatedly.

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  • D LaneMarch 23, 2013 - 4:09 pm

    "A room full of under-informed MSNBC worshiping liberals..." .... "Last year this idiot, racist knucklehead..." .... "The bottomless pit of stupidity..." .... "They can't think for themselves..." .... "The crash test dummy [B]iden."..... What pearls of wisdom! .... Did ONE single person with these Profound pieces of wisdom bother to add some REAL DIALOG to Mr. Garon's letter? .... When you can only SLAM, you are saying that you have NOTHING to add to the conversation. Outside of Cookie, Smitty and Frank's kicking dust on his shoes... I see nothing useful in these hateful posts.

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  • DB SmithMarch 23, 2013 - 4:43 pm

    Re-read the letter Dink. Groan notes "They're lionesses, not lions". I'll bet the lioness Larry Beutler liked that. Then the Groaner goes with he is " a typical gun-lovin', gun totin' cop". Next he goes with "a cheap political stunt" - "TP buddie extremist" -- Bobbleheads at the GOP Women Club". Who's kicking the dust and doing some SLAMMING Dink? I was being nice. It's typical of the left to dish out the crap but when they get a little back in their face they get all upset about. Boo hoo for you. The Sheriff knew full well what to expect at a meeting like this and he handled it perfectly. The Groaner is still a "kucklehead" and that is putting is nicely.

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 7:26 pm

    Dink, for the last several decades I have witnessed and observed the left in this country vilify, besmirch, tarnish, trash, slander, malign and smear any and all persons who dared to question their self-proclaimed birthright to rule over the rest of us. While good and desent people, who by the way pay for everything in this country, sit silently and take it. And you show us how the left reacts when it is given back to them. You better get used to it. We have only just begun to fight back and with the double digit IQ's of the left we have blenty to work with.

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 7:42 pm

    *plenty-not blenty: as in abundance, plethora, never ending supply.

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 23, 2013 - 7:57 pm

    Decent people do not bring about the descent of civility.

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 23, 2013 - 8:03 pm

    I'm sorry, Cookie. I'm shuch a $hitty speller that i cdnt resist . . . . my bad . . .

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  • "plucking motes"March 23, 2013 - 8:03 pm

    Evelyn, plucking the motes from the eyes of good guys who surround themselves with those who advocate revolution in our country is unfortunate but unavoidable. Your new tea party leader, Karl Rove seems to be advocating revolution, in Karl Rove speak, “we can’t keep going like this.” Revolution to achieve better than better to assure the chosen few making the money, continue to make that money, in Karl Rove speak, “our kids deserve a better future then this.” Karl Rove wants the tea party to bring change to America by sending him donations, which his group will manage without commitment why you fight the revolution. Sounds great if your part of the group managing the money. Those of us who have spent a good deal of our lives traveling already understand we have it better than most in the world and that good people exist among the worst of the “opportunistic vultures” as well as among the worst and best of ideologies. “What makes adherents of any one group so superior,” could it be as simple as, my team wins more often and therefore my team is better? Could it be your faith and beliefs are more in line, or maybe it’s as simple as I make more money. For me as an independent it’s as simple as, who does the best for the most people without stealing the government blind… Thanks for the nice smile Tuesday; I was sitting to your far left across the isle, tall guy tweed coat. I don’t think you realized what you witnessed during the veterans issues you sat though. The item was quietly but on the agenda at the last minute and had to do with the TOT tax. The supervisor who authored the item has a nephew who’s the son of a SLT judge who he cleared the way for employment in the EDC veterans service department. This supervisor received a letter from a local citizen suggesting that the TOT tax surplus be used for needed veterans training programs. The supervisor hijack the idea, consulted with the veterans service officer, also an elected official, on a method that would guarantee all the funds go to the veterans service department to cover items already covered by the general fund. This would result in a surplus of general fund monies that could be used as a slush fund for what ever. The monies were intended for veteran’s services and programs be on what the veterans service office offers. Were talking about an annual 90,000 dollars, this amount if you can get it to the right account would guarantee the nephews job and advancement with a little spending money for the RIGHT programs. One of several sweet deals this family has made in what’s becoming a family tradition.

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 8:12 pm

    Phil, between my eyes and my fingers I am lucky to write anything readable. My biggest problem though is trying to keep up with the 10,000 different thoughts I typically have all at the same time. I am the world's worst muti-tasker. Every word I read triggers multiple thoughts so writting a response takes a bit of self control which I don't have a great deal of.

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 23, 2013 - 8:14 pm

    Evelyn, is Richard some sort of "android"?

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 23, 2013 - 8:16 pm

    Cookie, I have not used Jack Daniels since Nov 6th 1986 . . . but . . . perhaps?

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 23, 2013 - 8:19 pm

    oops! I forgot the mote note = = = Evelyn, is Richard some sort of "android"? = = = = LINK - There are thousands of different ways that motes might be used, and as people get familiar with the concept they come up with even more. It is a completely new paradigm for distributed sensing and it is opening up a fascinating new way to look at computers. . . . In this article, you will have a chance to understand how motes work and see many of the possible applications of the technology. Then we will look at a MICA motes -- an existing technology that you can buy to experiment with this unique way of sensing the world.

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 8:24 pm

    Plucking, nepotism is illegal in the public arena but since when did legality stop those in the positions of power? I am very curious about your comment of Carl Rove being the "leader" of the tea party. Where does that come from?

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  • boozyMarch 23, 2013 - 8:41 pm

    I know facts are hard for most liberals to digest, but here are some violent crime stats from the Chicago Police Department. Racial Breakdown White……..31.7% Blacks…….32.4% Hispanic…...28.9% Asian……….7.0% Murder White. .2.8% Black… 75.0% Hispanic..21.8% Rape White..….5.7% Black…..85.2% Hispanic..10.8% Aggravated Assault White…...6.7% Blacks….68.0% Hispanic..23.8% Asian…….1.0% And you Mr. Garon claim all this violence is coming from a angry husband, a drunken man or a child who found his fathers guns? I think not. We have a demographic problem. And it is directly and squarely put on the backs of the Liberal Policies of the Democrats keeping certain demographics on the plantation through generational welfare forbidding them to build a better life for themselves and also the intentional destruction of the family unit. Most of the offenders lived at some point in their lives in a “fatherless” family. Oh, might want to take all that anger on the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution and really apply it to the war on drugs that began in the 60’s and continues today spending countless billions of taxpayer dollars with absolutely no results. These percentages I am sure you can take to any Metro Area in the United States and they will not change. Mr. Garon, we have a demographic problem in this country and not a gun problem.

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  • EvelynMarch 23, 2013 - 9:11 pm

    "plucking motes" - I stopped reading your epistle when I got to your 3rd line. Noting your totally inaccurate assumption about my political leanings it seemed probable that the balance would be equally ill-informed. Are you new in these parts, or have you simply not been paying attention?

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 9:35 pm

    Phil, I'm not much for sour mash, but I am partial to the Agave cactus. Patron is best all by itself.

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 9:38 pm

    Phil, is there a reason you happen to remember the exact date?

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 23, 2013 - 9:44 pm

    Friends of Bill W. say that if you don't know your date then you haven't seen it yet. Th' Missus kept leaving me. But I tricked her. I broke up with Jack Daniels and she finally came to her senses and came home . . . funny how that works . . .

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 9:46 pm

    Boozy, they just raided two internet cafe's in Yuba city where the welfare cases were using their EBT cards for internet gambling. One of the employees said on the first of every month the line would stretch around the building. These are the disadvantaged and victims the left keeps leashed to poverty.

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  • cookie65March 23, 2013 - 10:03 pm

    If you want to keep it you have to give it away.

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  • Martin SchumannMarch 24, 2013 - 6:31 am

    “Good is measured in achieving the outcome you desire, not the outcome produced. Ask any researcher and they will tell you an experiment is easy to manipulate if your objective is to attain a specific result.” This has been proven true time and time again, as long as the peer reviews come from government employees or government sponsored individuals you will have fixed outcomes. All peer reviews should be performed by individuals or associations that are not tied to money from our leaders.

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  • EvelynMarch 24, 2013 - 6:59 am

    "plucking motes" - It's early morning, and for whatever reason I went back and read your entry. Seems my assumption was as flawed as what I had thought yours. But let me clarify. I'm not a Karl Rove fan. Never have been, never will be. And I too have no affiliation to any political party. As for last Tuesday's BOS meeting, you are right. I had no idea. But it does sound like "business as usual". If we ever run into one another again, I'd appreciate talking to you. ********** Regarding my "superior" comment, it's only that I'm sick to death of the mud slinging that passes for discussion.

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  • cookie65March 24, 2013 - 7:00 am

    Martin, that is the foundation of the man-made global warming fraud. Also known as the science of seperating people from their money. There is a question that the fraudsters cannot answer and that is whether global warming is a good thing or a bad thing.

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  • EvelynMarch 24, 2013 - 7:27 am

    "plucking" - You've sent me back to looking at Tuesday's agenda. (1) Is Edward Swanson elected or appointed? (2) Did Briggs put the matter on the Agenda? (3) A search on SLT judges -- don't know how else to do it -- only comes up with Bailey, but I thought he was retired. (4) Not that it matters, but it looks like it's TIM fees we're talking about, not TOT.

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 24, 2013 - 7:49 am

    Cookie, BINGO! - There is a question that the fraudsters cannot answer and that is whether global warming is a good thing or a bad thing. - The ENTIRE climate change/ EPA/endangered species industry is substantially premised on “chaos theory” (butterfly effect) which proves that small changes in initial conditions can have profound consequences over time. But it is impossible to know or predict whether different outcomes are either good or bad. Had the EPA been around a few million years ago we might not have that huge erosion problem called the Grand Canyon. Had Monica not fellated Bill He might have had the presence to drone Osama. . . .

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  • cookie65March 24, 2013 - 8:38 am

    Phil, the geologic record provides countless times when the earth was too cool for life to flourish but never has any evidence been found when the earth was too warm for life to flourish. Unbiased "scientists" would ask this question, those modivated by money would not.

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  • "plucking motes"March 24, 2013 - 2:28 pm

    Evelyn: I’ll answer for whatever reason! Mr. Swanson is a hired department head, but not really? He was hired as a senior veterans service officer. When his department head retired the BOS (Jack) divided his workload giving the department responsibilities to both Swanson and control of the budget to recorder/clerk Bill Schultz who volunteered as interim dept. head. The time period was shortly after Charlie Brown came with in a point and a half of defeating McClintock and it must be assumed the Republican Party felt the need to get the veterans community under control, among other reasons. Shultz has since been given a 5% bump on his 138,000 annual salaries for his interim position. Also as part of his interim position he over sees the appointed EDC veterans commission that advises the board on veterans issues. The first veterans item on the agenda we sat though was his embellished annual report and a little begging an groveling for more department money based on the increase of returning veterans when Afghanistan which was greatly exaggerated according to the dep. sec. ca, dept. of vet affaires recently published estimates. Yes, I’ve already explained the background. Yes, Bailey is also the last name of his nephew now working for the veteran’s service office. Bailey is also the judge involved in the recent grand jury boondoggle. Not retired unless it took place in the last month on so. No, transit occupancy tax fund. Ten plus years ago Sweeney was the big supporter and behind closed doors promised the organized veterans groups in EDC a percentage if they would work on getting it passed, but after it passed the chamber took veteran’s commission by his uncle. priority receiving the funds. Briggs was recently reminded in a letter from a local citizen the fact the account had increased 200K more than they had expected in recent years, hi-jacking the citizens idea for obvious reasons and quietly putting it on the agenda. Also, his nephew is a veteran, now employed by the county and appointed immediately to the vets affairs commission by his uncle.

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  • EvelynMarch 24, 2013 - 2:37 pm

    "plucking" - OMG. It just goes on and on. If we're ever again in the same room together, please trip me as I walk by so that we can say "hello".

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 24, 2013 - 3:36 pm

    Plucking Evelyn - LINK - Six degrees of Sweeney, Briggs, Bailey and Bacon . . . you guys are on the cusp of discovering the centre of the universe. CERN's Higgs discovery is so yesterday.

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  • EvelynMarch 24, 2013 - 3:54 pm

    On matters concerning conflict of interest I'd go here before reading Bacon at Wiki.

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  • EvelynMarch 24, 2013 - 3:56 pm


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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 24, 2013 - 5:32 pm

    It was hoped that the link to Bacon might not be taken as a superficial 1st level bit of Bacon trivia. Of course you need not “read Bacon at Wiki”! But it might have been useful to dedicate brief pause to the consideration of the pernicious and corrosive effect resulting when connections are made a-la the Bacon game and conflict of interest is insinuated. Small communities and old families are easy picking. In fact, outsiders with no historical depth might be preferred. Another name for the Bacon game is GOB network. . . . conflict of interest ? Slam dunk! I’ll bet there are fewer than six people separating you from Díck Cheney. Sleep well.

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  • EvelynMarch 24, 2013 - 6:13 pm

    Here or elsewhere, when it comes to conflict of interest, degrees of separation matter. Legally.

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  • EvelynApril 04, 2013 - 9:03 am

    "Anti-Gunners Reveal their Strategy" - HERE

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True Christian

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Sports Scene: April 20, 2014

By Democrat Staff | From Page: A6

All Star team shows competive balance

By Special to the Democrat | From Page: A6

Australian rugby team visits Cameron park

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Roundup: Cougars drop finale

By Democrat Staff | From Page: A6

Red hot Rico Abreu blazes to victory

By Gary Thomas | From Page: A6

Schedule: April 21-26, 2014

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Rains to present at AMA conference

By David Albee | From Page: A7



Spend time in River City

By Wendy Schultz | From Page: B2 | Gallery

As we were: Supervisors can’t decide

By Ken Deibert | From Page: B2

Cantare Chorale seeks new director

By Cantare Chorale | From Page: B3

Help with healthcare decisions

By Snowline Hospice Thrift Stores | From Page: B3

Time to enter El Dorado County Fair

By El Dorado County Fair | From Page: B3

Volunteers needed for day of service

By Mimi Escabar | From Page: B10



DUI Log: Feb. 28-April 3

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A2

Lake levels 4-17-14

By Michael Raffety | From Page: A2



Dianne Johnson

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Michael R. Sponsler

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Daniel Bish Sr. funeral notice

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Real Estate




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American Profile Crossword

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New York Times Crossword

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Horoscope, Tuesday, April 22, 2014

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Horoscope, Monday, April 21, 2014

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TV Listings

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Speed Bump

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