Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Do something, board president

EDITOR: I am calling on Cameron Park Board of Directors President Greg Stanton to do something to control the increasingly erratic and dangerous behavior of Director Scott McNeil. Month after month Director McNeil has become more aggressive towards the public and several other board members.

At the June 19 Cameron Park CSD meeting during open forum Mr. Bill Carey got up to address the obscene graffiti that had been painted at the skate park enclosure in Christa McAuliffe Park. Mr. Carey opened his presentation by acknowledging that the words spray painted at the skate park enclosure have been deemed by the board of directors as inappropriate to speak in a CSD meeting. Mr. Carey proceeded by showing the board and public what was painted at the skate park enclosure by holding up signs with the words written on them. Mr. Carey did not at any time say the words; he merely showed the board and the public at the meeting what the children of Cameron Park who use the skate park enclosure have had to see every day for over two weeks.

During Mr. Carey’s presentation Director Scott McNeil repeatedly interrupted Mr. Carey and created such a disturbance at the meeting that a recess had to be called. During this recess Director McNeil shouted that he wanted Mr. Carey thrown out of the meeting along with his signs. At another point in the recess, while Mr. Carey was standing at the dais speaking with the Parks Supervisor Paul Ryan, Director McNeil rapidly approached Mr. Carey from the far side of the dais in a threatening and menacing manner. He confronted Mr. Carey and got so close as to cause Mr. Carey to tell him to back up. Mr. Carey’s language was more colorful than this but it was justified. Director McNeil was getting so close as to pose a threat to Mr. Carey.

This is not the first time Director McNeil’s outbursts have become so disruptive during a CSD meeting that it was necessary for the board president to call recess to regain control. Director McNeil has become a public nuisance at the CSD meetings by routinely interrupting people who are at the podium speaking. He has shouted at the public from the dais in direct violation of Cameron Park CSD Policy 4050.2 (Directors shall at all times conduct themselves with courtesy to each other, to staff, and to members of the audience present at Board meetings.) He treats several of his fellow directors with equal disrespect, sniping and arguing indiscriminately.


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Discussion | 24 comments

  • CP residentJuly 08, 2013 - 11:30 am

    Why is it that Mr. Carey and Mr. Lillipop are the only ones that ever send in letters to the newspaper.... Maybe they are the problem !!!!!! Sound like two old whiners to me.....Find something else better to do. I think Mr. McNeil and the other members are doing a fine job, its a CSD board...NOT congress.....let them do their jobs. CP

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  • FranJuly 08, 2013 - 11:41 am

    Not my area--however I have been at meetings now--where this board is being brought up as having some problems...Maybe I should come to a meeting? If it is as calm as you say--and people are being listened to--why would anyone write about it?

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  • Kelly KJuly 08, 2013 - 1:13 pm

    Fran & Cameron Park residents: PLEASE DO come to the CSD meetings & see for yourselves just what is going on. Show the community that people DO care what is going on! This board (certain members) are totally out of control. Meetings are the 3rd Wednesday of each month.

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  • Jim RiordanJuly 08, 2013 - 12:25 pm

    To Patrick Ibarra . . .Hi Pat, great new format for comments . . any chance we could reduce the width of the advertising just enough to fit the full width of the comments. Or, move the comments section to the left, almost to the "listing" downline. That may be enough to fix the problem. This is happening all through the site. Thanks in advance Pat. It is much better already.

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  • BrendaJuly 08, 2013 - 1:06 pm

    I agree with where the problem really is! I have only seen McNeil be respectful of people. The problem with the board as I see it is the lack of them booting disruptive individuals out that keep the majority of good citizens from attending. I would love for people to come to the CSD meetings and see for themselves where the real problems are.

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  • FranJuly 08, 2013 - 1:25 pm

    I will try for one of these meetings...I am interested. We do not have a CDS--our community center runs off volunteers and fund raisers. So thank you for the invites--i would really like to see what happens inside one of these meetings. Fran. I am not going to say which date...I like people to act normal...maybe ill bring friends.

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  • FranJuly 08, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    What time are these meetings?

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  • Kelly KJuly 08, 2013 - 1:51 pm

    They start at 7PM - you can find the agenda on line (CPCSD) usually after 5PM the Friday before the meeting.

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  • BrendaJuly 08, 2013 - 2:04 pm

    Please tell as many people as you can...the best disinfectant is daylight. Can't wait to see how some of these self professed malcontents handle that! Its time to take back our community from these clowns that have neen behaving like this for the ladt 4 years!

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  • Gerald LillpopJuly 09, 2013 - 6:54 am

    Brenda as one of the malcontents I am looking forward to you introducing yourself at the July 17th meeting. I assure you you will be treated by me with more respect than Scott McNeil treats the public with. As to sunshine being the best disinfectant I couldn't agree more. Let's focus some sunshine on McNeil after all that's what I am doing with this letter. See you on the 17th and please bring as many people as you can. I want everyone to see how out of control McNeil can get. Of course with this letter in the paper he will behave for a few months but the CD's don't lie.

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  • Barbara RogersJuly 08, 2013 - 9:59 pm

    Tried so hard not to make a comment, but Brenda, PLEASE PLEASE stop your lies. Just who are you? Are you Scott, perhaps a member of his family or just one of his friends? Sadly to say Scott was totally out of control and showed anger towards Bill Carey at this meeting. An elected official should never and I mean never come out from behind the board table and confront a member of the public. All one has to do is listen to tapes or better yet stand by for the video. Yep I said the video.

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  • Do tellJuly 09, 2013 - 8:37 am

    Please make the video or audio available.

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  • FranJuly 09, 2013 - 8:37 am

    Thanks for the information Kelly--are the videos uploaded to you tube for the public to see? since the 17tj is announced...maybe I will pick another date...are these people elected?...or self appointed?

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  • FranJuly 09, 2013 - 8:50 am

    Barbara--you answered my question--these are elected people...we are listening to your written word. If someone could get vids up--that would be great. This abuse of power--if correct in this instance--is happening up and down the hill...I now go to several meetings to just watch what is happening...because we are one county...not separate villages. will I disrupt your path? Not on purpose. But outsiders coming in--do change circumstances without meaning to.

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  • Kelly KJuly 09, 2013 - 9:57 am

    Fran: Meetings are not videoed, but they ARE recorded & copies are available, usually a day or two after each meeting on request. Feel free to come to any of the meetings - they are open to the public. Each meeting is announced on the CSD website.

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  • FranJuly 09, 2013 - 10:01 am

    Thank you Kelly

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  • HurricaneJuly 09, 2013 - 11:48 am

    Having run many meetings as a chairman or a member of the board... 1. Many of our elected officials are like us....which means, they have not been trained to participate or control a meeting. 2. The confusion in a meeting is caused by participants not adhering to Robert's Rules of Order. 3. This problem is easily solved by appointing a person to enforce the rules with the power to have the Sargent of Arms as the enforcing agent. 4. Robert's is a simple read and can be found on line. 5. All participants should read the rules. 6. Pay particular attention to..."Out of Order" Without rules of conduct u have the potential for a meeting that can get out of control. This can happen at he dinner table with children of all ages. Hope this adds a positive suggestion.

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  • FranJuly 09, 2013 - 11:55 am

    Hurricane...Roberts rules of order New and improved

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  • FranJuly 09, 2013 - 11:57 am

    Hurricane...this is based on English Law...oh my comments should be interesting.

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  • Melody LaneJuly 09, 2013 - 6:32 pm

    I find it interesting that Scott McNeil attended the Taxpayers Assn. meeting yesterday where Assemblyman Frank Bigelow was our guest speaker. I sat between Bigelow and McNeil who remained silent. Afterwards McNeil extended his hand, introduced himself and complimented my professionalism and adhering to the facts when addressing the Board of Supervisors. He noted the BOS disrespectful attitude in return, particularly when Chairman Briggs turned off the mic and exited the room during the 6/18 BOS during Open Forum. The TRUTH of the matter is my message hit the bulls eye. Three of the supervisors made quite a statement when they remained seated during the 10 min. break. Sheriff D'Agostini was present to witness the debacle. Click on OPEN FORUM to go directly to that segment of the 6/18 BOS:

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  • James E.July 09, 2013 - 6:49 pm

    Morris, Straightline Roofing did not install my roof. However, they have done some minor repair and spraying of my roof and chimney. So, while they appear to be just roof installers, they could do the spray/cleaning of your metal roof. Not sure what it would cost, might be reasonable or might take your breath away. You would have to contact them for information. Disclaimer: No business interests with Straightline, just passing on a possible solution to Morris to keep him from killing himself. Or, as Paul suggests, hook yourself up with block and tackle -- what would you attach it to? The chimney? Breaking news: Morris falls from roof pulling his chimney down and cracking his head wide open. A sad day in El Dorado County.

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  • Compass2TruthJuly 09, 2013 - 6:55 pm

    Just as important as Roberts Rules of Order are the CA Brown Act & the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act. They set the legal standards for how all public meetings are to be conducted. I suggest every citizen familiarize themselves with these rules. During the OPEN FORUM segment of the 6/25 BOS meeting I quoted in part the preamble to the Brown Act. Again Sheriff D'Agostini was present to witness my follow up to the previous weeks debacle with prepared, factual information and documentation. The OPEN FORUM presentation as well as all the documents submitted into the public record can be viewed here:

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  • Melody LaneJuly 09, 2013 - 7:14 pm

    It is important to note that individuals are permitted 3 minutes and persons representing a group (like Compass2Truth or SOC)are allowed 5 minutes to address their concerns during public meetings. All my prepared presentations are carefully rehearsed and timed. Problem is--depending on the subject matter, personal agendas or the mood of the Board--some citizens may receive more/less than what the rules stipulate. Frank Bigelow addressed this particular concern to a packed audience at El Centro yesterday. Citizens need to know the rules and present the facts in a dignified manner during public meetings. In return elected officials must remain respectful, transparent and accountable to the public they profess to serve. When emotions run high it's much easier said than done.

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  • Barbara RogersJuly 10, 2013 - 5:44 pm

    Melody you stated this about Scott McNeil; "He noted the BOS disrespectful attitude in return, particularly when Chairman Briggs turned off the mic and exited the room during the 6/18 BOS during Open Forum." I find this so comical. This is exactly what he did as President of the CPCSD board and he also urges the current President, Greg Stanton, to do the same. The only difference is he telling Stanton to call the police and have residents ejected from the meetings. I went to the link and watched the open forum. I cannot believe the way our elected officials treat the people who are paying them. For all of you who want to come to a CPCSD meeting, do you really think they are going to act up? No, they are very keen and cunning, they will be on their best behavior. Recall, Recall...

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