Wednesday, April 16, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

EID clash of viewpoints

EDITOR:

The letters in Friday’s edition by Mr. Raveling and Mr. Prada present contrary viewpoints. This causes a response.

It seems to be the old “form (Raveling) vs. substance (Prada)” comparison that haunts us all in political matters. And in this case, “substance” has trumped “form.”

The obvious flaw in Mr. Raveling’s comment is that it is a 2011 comparison of water rates well before the full impact of EID’s recent rate increases is felt by some ratepayers, particularly the Single Family Residence (SFR) classification. The methodology is also suspect.

The increase in rate was based on the Cost of Service Survey (COSS) in 2010. The stated “Principles” for that survey state for numerous principles that the rate structure be “fair and reasonable.” With rates established as outlined by Mr. Prada for the SFR, a concern arises about the “fair” part of the principles. It seems not all ratepayers are created equal. This is apparent when comparing the rates for, among other, SFR (significantly higher) and Agricultural (measurably lower) classifications. A more just distribution of costs is required to achieve the “fair(ness)” factor in the COSS.

The “reasonable” factor was met because EID is significantly in debt due to past actions. (The description of these debt-incurring decisions is left to others.)

A realignment of the rates is required to accomplish this goal of reducing debt “fair(ly).”

WALTER MILLER
El Dodado

Letters to the Editor

LEAVE A COMMENT

Discussion | 8 comments

  • Phil VeerkampJuly 24, 2013 - 10:25 pm

    WALTER MILLER asserts,"The obvious flaw in Mr. Raveling’s comment is that it is a 2011 comparison of water rates well before the full impact of EID’s recent rate increases . . . I would point out that the obvious flaw in WALTER MILLER's comment is his unfounded assumption that 2011 water rates remained static for the others while only EID rose precipitously. All water agencies in California are seeing rate increases. It is unlikely that EID's rates relative to other agencies has substantially shifted. The rate increase drivers are acting across the state(s). Mr. Prada has in the past advocated for higher ag rates to make it "fair". His arguments for higher ag rates are in extreme tension with "keep it rural".

    Reply | Report abusive comment
  • Is phil veerkamp demented?July 25, 2013 - 2:14 am

    Yes, other districts may have raised rates too...but not 75 percent in just three years. Phil Veerkamp cares about his inflated EID pension and says to heck with EID ratepayers. Didn't Phil get enough money from selling his family's Wakamatsu Farm instead of EARNING his keep? What a self-absorbed, loudmouth deadbeat!

    Reply | Report abusive comment
  • EvelynJuly 25, 2013 - 5:31 am

    @ 2:14 am: Not to put too fine a point on it, but the property in question, the sale of which you incorrectly attribute to Phil, had not had "Wakamatsu" attached to it prior to 2012.

    Reply | Report abusive comment
  • Phil VeerkampJuly 25, 2013 - 5:54 am

    @- 2:14 am - smells like Greg Prada style logic/ad hominem. It's nearly identical to Greg Prada's rebuttal several months ago when I first deconstructed his "EID-excess-capacity" and "ag-rates-too-low" disinformation campaign. Greg Prada was a shill then. Greg Prada is a shill now. Greg, show some balls and post this thread with your real name.

    Reply | Report abusive comment
  • cookie65July 26, 2013 - 8:13 am

    Phil, are you a self-absorbed loudmouth deadbeat? My guess is you are being slandered by someone who's livelihood is fully funded by public funds. Jealousy and envy are ugly emotions and run rather high in certain types of people. Evelyn, you owe no one any explanation, it is none of anyone's business.

    Reply | Report abusive comment
  • EvelynJuly 26, 2013 - 8:20 am

    Thanks, cookie, but it was a matter of clearing up a distortion. Over time misunderstandings accrue and fake histories become "reality". Too much of what we "know" is largely fake.

    Reply | Report abusive comment
  • cookie65July 26, 2013 - 8:51 am

    I understand Evelyn. I have always been of the notion that people are going to believe what they are going to believe and those who depend on gossip for their belief systems are not interested in facts or truth. My theory is proven by your own statement that too much of what we "know" is largely fake. Lazy minded people will choose a convenient story over exercising their mind. You will wear yourself out trying to get rumor oriented, gossip spreading people to deal in facts.

    Reply | Report abusive comment
  • Paul RavelingNovember 01, 2013 - 9:06 am

    I only spotted this months later... Mr. Miller is wrong. The letter of mine that he commented on reported results of the most recent California rate survey that was available,, done by the California-Nevada section of the American Water Works Association. Mr Prada's letter was false in all of his claims and was explicitly defAmatory. The Democrat should have recognized that and refused to publish Mr. Prada,s remarks. Mr. Miller should have checked the facts with me before reaching an opinion and publishing it.

    Reply | Report abusive comment
.

News

EDH Fire Dept. annexing Latrobe

By Noel Stack | From Page: A1

 
Motorcycle fatality in Greenwood

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A1

 
Greenwood School being restored

By Rebecca Murphy | From Page: A1 | Gallery

Cal Fire increasing staffing, hiring

By Cal Fire | From Page: B1

 
EID restricts watering days

By Michael Raffety | From Page: A1, 9 Comments

Lover’s Leap fall injures man

By Tahoe Tribune | From Page: A1

 
Tea Party meeting April 17

By Tea Party Patriots Of El Dorado Hills | From Page: A3

 
Town Hall Meeting on Underage Drinking May 1

By El Dorado Hills Community Vision Coalition | From Page: A6

Floating body not a body

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A7

 
Old mill a goner

By Dawn Hodson | From Page: A11, 2 Comments | Gallery

.

Opinion

 
My turn: A fair California flat income tax

By Mark Belden | From Page: A4

DA Pierson has been outstanding

By Mountain Democrat | From Page: A4, 4 Comments

 
.

Letters

A great big thanks

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5

 
Murder? Suicide?

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5, 1 Comment

‘Drive Clean’

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5

 
Middle class getting poorer?

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5

Real estate lies

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5, 1 Comment

 
.

Sports

Outside with Charlie: Switch gear

By Charlie Ferris | From Page: A8

 
Ponderosa volleyball is a family affair

By Jerry Heinzer | From Page: A8 | Gallery

Aussie team makes visit

By Special to the Democrat | From Page: A8

 
Griz have challenging day

By Mike Bush | From Page: A8 | Gallery

Roundup: April 15, 2014

By Democrat Staff | From Page: A9 | Gallery

 
.

Prospecting

At a glance: Take aim on fun

By Mimi Escabar | From Page: B2

 
Men to walk a mile in her shoes

By Center For Violence-Free Relationships | From Page: B2 | Gallery

Runners stampede for Sugarloaf scholarships

By El Dorado County Office of Education | From Page: B2 | Gallery

 
Team works to fight disease

By Placerville Kiwanis | From Page: B3

 
COOL School is accepting applications

By Rescue Union | From Page: B4

Band of Miwoks fund mission

By Shingle Springs Band Of Miwok Indians | From Page: B12

 
.

Essentials

Crime Log: March 25-27

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A2

 
Weather stats 4-15-14

By Michael Raffety | From Page: A2

.

Obituaries

Ronald Russell Rohrer

By Contributor | From Page: A2

 
Numa Edward “Ed” Roberts

By Contributor | From Page: A2

.

Real Estate

.

Comics

Shoe

By Contributor | From Page: A10

 
Rubes

By Contributor | From Page: A10

New York Times Crossword

By Contributor | From Page: A10

 
Tundra

By Contributor | From Page: A10

Horoscope, Thursday, April 17, 2014

By Contributor | From Page: A10

 
Horoscope, Wednesday, April 16, 2014

By Contributor | From Page: A10

TV Listings

By Contributor | From Page: A10

 
Sudoku

By Contributor | From Page: A10

Flying McCoys

By Contributor | From Page: A10

 
Speed Bump

By Contributor | From Page: A10

Working It Out

By Contributor | From Page: A10