Wednesday, April 23, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

Enough already

EDITOR:

Another paper and another letter from pompous blowhard John Garon. One can only surmise that the Mountain Democrat does not receive enough letters to fill the editorial page or that Mr. Garon saved the life of the paper’s owner.

RANDALL GRAHEK
Placerville

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  • sick of content-free lettersJanuary 21, 2014 - 10:45 am

    Another paper and another letter from a pompous blowhard. One can only surmise that the Mountain Democrat does not receive enough letters to fill the editorial page.

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  • MorrisJanuary 21, 2014 - 11:26 am

    SOCFL: You realize this will zoom over his head like a Special Olympics baseball; right? (Wicked funny either way tho)

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  • let the games beginJanuary 21, 2014 - 11:32 am

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  • Listening and doing & making good choices...January 21, 2014 - 11:28 am

    Sometimes the easiest way to avoid angry or foolish speech is to simply avoid speaking, and to focus instead on listening and understanding others. Respect others, and what others may have to say. Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry. For In the same way, all the wisdom and honor in the world cannot outweigh a moment’s folly. Once you aim your gun, and the "bullet" leaves the gun you cannot get the "bullet" back. The same goes with our angry & harsh negative words pointed at others. Be careful how you formulate your words, and to whom you shoot your words at. Words can be like a bullet -going out from our mouth to cause pain, and to hurt others. I am sure the prisons are full of those who wished they had never shot their gun off. Especially the janitor years ago who shot 'his friend' the principal at the Placerville elementary school. It all starts with misunderstandings, and then angry words that stem from miscommunications, and the end result is up to you. Encourage edify & build up. Don't tear down others.

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  • sticks and stonesJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:33 am

    words only have the power you give them.

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  • Oh the IronyJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:35 am

    Randall, I agree, we should have more letters like yours, chock full of interesting information. Who did you sleep with/kill to get your piece of crap letter published? Must have been fished out of the trash can.

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  • Is This For Real?January 22, 2014 - 5:03 am

    Randy(aptly named), you hilariously and unwittingly proved your own point. Yes, some of the MD letters lack any content at all, but John's letters aren't the ones that come to mind. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 8:59 am

    obama's speeches are what come to mind when you think of lack of content? Unless your ears burn to hear nothing but class warfare.

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 6:36 am

    Two children die in a Memphis house fire and the aunt isn't concerned about having left them home alone. She is concerned about making sure her purse didn't burn up because it had her foodstamp card in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2u1Uyju8BA

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  • Kinda MustyJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:52 pm

    Thanks for the video from 2009

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  • EvelynJanuary 22, 2014 - 7:47 am

    Mr. Grahek sets a new standard.

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 8:36 am

    Mother Goose content free nursery rhymes where first published in 1590. Our crayon king is keeping the tradition alive. Besides, the non-thinking of the left gets better exposed when they author their own madness. There will never be enough. What ever it takes for people to learn what leftism is. I fully support garon's letter writing prowess and unquestionable ability to define the intolerance and closed mindedness of leftism. Keep up the great work John.

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  • Harley RyanJanuary 22, 2014 - 9:47 am

    Instead of bashing someone else's opinion, why don't you write a letter expressing your own? I happen to agree with Garon and think his letters are well-written. The Mt. Dem is obviously a conservative paper, but at least they welcome the dissenting opinion to stir up the dialogue. Your letter is so juvenile.

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  • James E.January 22, 2014 - 10:09 am

    Mr. Ryan, the Mountain Democrat is more than a conservative paper, it's a Tea Party paper that has the gall to call itself the Mountain Democrat. The locals love their Tea Party paper.

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 10:42 am

    The name precedes the current definition of democrat. The miners, prospectors and settlers were unenlightened and short sighted in their understanding that they were financially responsible for those who wanted to just vote for a living. A little boy asks his mom about the people who go to work everyday and his mom tells him they do that to support us. The little boy say don't they get tired of that? The mommy says yes, we call those people bigoted.

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  • get a jobJanuary 22, 2014 - 10:57 am

    James E. Obviously you have read Saul Alinsky's book rules for radicals. Because you take his advice to demonize the opposition at all cost to heart. One of your numerous writings on your label and definition of tea/republicans, "EDITOR: Tea/Republicans are currently at war fighting women’s rights, Latinos, unions, gays/lesbians, contraception and voter disenfranchisement. Now they want to declare war on seniors by cancelling Medicare — for all seniors currently enrolled. Senator Paul, Senator DeMint and Senator Graham have introduced a bill which will accomplish this and are reassuring that this is a wonderful idea. Actually, I was a bit worried until the three told me everything was going to be just fine. Because, after all, we know that senators have our best interests at heart. Women’s rights, Latinos, unions, gays/lesbians, contraception, voter disenfranchisement, and seniors over 65 … political suicide. Whatever could they be thinking?." You make outlandish statements in regards to an enemy you've created with out any fact or merit. You pretend to have an inside understanding and intelligence void of the average electorate. Not unlike the over aged rube who still wears his 49'ers jacket during the play offs. You should be old enough to know better so you are beyond contempt. Your political party runs every aspect of our government and still you are not satisfied. You want to silence dissent. Because if there is still dissent then eventually those in charge will have to deal with reality. Cheer leaders like you and Garon's only hope is to make dissent irrelevant. Unlike your mythical tea/republicans, people like you are very real and scary

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  • James E.January 22, 2014 - 11:04 am

    'get a job,' your premise and therefore your conclusions fail, as I have never read anything by Saul Alinsky. But, to sum it all up, all will be good in the neighborhood when we have a Republican president, House, and Senate. Will Cookie, et al., be out of a chat job when that happens. Must be.

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  • get a jobJanuary 22, 2014 - 11:51 am

    Maybe James believes he taught Alinsky...

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  • R.J. CarterJanuary 22, 2014 - 11:20 am

    Wasn't Saul Alinsky also a community organizer from Chicago???

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 22, 2014 - 11:25 am

    O.K. Who wants to compare the Reagans to Obamas? Remember back in In 1982 when Nancy Reagan purchased those fine China place-settings for the White House at a cost of $210,399.00 and how even though the China was paid for through contributions by friends and out even of the First Lady's own pocket, the press still went nuts and had a huge field-day bashing the Reagans over the cost. Now fast-forward and our Queen was busted after she falsified those expense and personnel reports for her 2011 vacation to Africa, listing her two daughter, Sasha and Malia, as “senior staff” members. That little lie cost taxpayers an extra $150,000.00..Now on to Queen Michelle's birthday celebration which starting in Hawaii over three weeks ago when Obama as a personal birthday present to her allowed her to stay another week there after he left at taxpayers expense? His B-Day present to her, but he's not paying for the added $800,000.00 cost of Air Force One to carry her ladyship back to the U.S. or added the secret service cost the taxpayer are. Our first lady isn’t a cheap date and it didn't stop there. Her birthday went on for another two more weeks ending with a lavish mufti-million dollar birthday party for her (at taxpayers expense) that included the likes of Adele and Beyonce and many, many other Leftist Hollywood and sports elites along with appearances by a host of other A-list celebrities. Of course the events of the party itself are all shrouded in secrecy and very hush-hush. No doubt the price tag was astronomical to us tax-payers, yet all we hear about from the Leftist media is about some traffic jam on a bridge in NY. It's been 6 years now and why too many Americans are still out of jobs, yet this happy couple is so bored they must spend our tax dollars to worshiping celebrities. The real question should be, why don't "we the people" and our media hold this President as responsible as past Presidents?.

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  • rodJanuary 22, 2014 - 12:15 pm

    I quit watching any movie with Alec badwind in it, what an @ss.

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  • I Could have Danced all NightJanuary 22, 2014 - 12:19 pm

    Job, Town and Country---The Carters' ban on hard liquor, and Rosalynn's unusually democratic habit of inviting otherwise unknown citizens who had written to the White House asking if they could attend state dinners, among other practices, set them far apart from Nancy and Ronald Reagan, former Hollywoodites who were quite comfortable in gilded surroundings. As the nation saw a rise in millionaires and billionaires — even as unemployment rose — the Reagans partied like it was, well, the '80s. Nancy (who admired the Kennedy style of entertaining so much that she hired their social secretary, Letitia Baldrige, as a consultant) quickly went about making a White House invitation once again a rare and special thing. She immediately halted the practice of inviting unfabulous types (unless they wrote a big check to the Republican Party), and she downsized dinners, often to fewer than 100 people. She and the president loved to dance after dinner. One of the Reagans' most celebrated evenings took place on November 9, 1985, when Prince Charles and Princess Diana were feted at a state dinner. Neil Diamond and Gloria Vanderbilt dined on lobster mousse, and John Travolta danced with the Princess.

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  • James E.January 22, 2014 - 11:31 am

    Presidential vacations (including wives) should be restricted to Camp David. Birthday celebrations in the White House or Camp David with the president paying for the birthday cake out of pocket.

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  • James E.January 22, 2014 - 11:32 am

    No, not sarcasm, I mean it.

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  • James E.January 22, 2014 - 11:33 am

    Be back later.

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  • KellyJanuary 22, 2014 - 1:24 pm

    I for one enjoy and agree with Johns letters. Especially coming from a paper so slanted to the right it is a joke. On the other hand I dont like to post because of all the angry rude Tea Heads. No adult debating here!

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 3:52 pm

    We couldn't be more delighted that you find emotional gratification thru mother goose's vitriol and slander aimed at anyone who doesn't repeat his groupthink worship of statist government.

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  • Angry rude Tea HeadJanuary 22, 2014 - 3:03 pm

    Since Ronald Reagan and Nancy Davis Reagan were both elite Hollywood stars before they became the President and first Lady, and were already friends with most all those other stars, just how is that any kind of comparison?. It's not like the Reagans payed millions and millions of taxpayer bucks to chum around and party with ol friends. As a low-life community organizer in Chicago, do you really think obama was frends with before or ever met any of those stars he invited to the Whitehouse on the taxpayer dime??/

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  • Chubby CheckerJanuary 22, 2014 - 3:45 pm

    Wa Post Fact Checker-------Bachmann’s headline figure is that Obama’s presidency costs $1.4 billion a year. Gray never quite explains how he developed that figure, though another self-published book, “The 1.4 Billion Dollar Man: Costs of the Obama White House,” by self-help writer John F. Groom, attempts to provide a breakdown. But what is quickly apparent is that this number covers every possible expense, including many having to do with the security that is necessary to protect the president. The figures also include the cost of the White House policy-making staffs. Are those really all “perks and excess”? Groom’s figures include a number of somewhat fishy guesstimates (“unreimbursed campaign expenses”), but as it happens, a much more credible scholar — former White House aide Bradley H. Patterson Jr. — attempted to figure out the tab for the White House for a book, “To Serve the President,” published in 2010 by the Brookings Institution. Patterson estimated that the cost of running the White House for fiscal 2008 — when George W. Bush was president — was nearly $1.6 billion. About half — more than $800 million — related to the Secret Service budget. An additional $271 million was spent on the president’s helicopter squadron. If Bush is a $1.6 billion man, does that make Obama a relative bargain at $1.4 billion?

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  • get a jobJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:07 pm

    Why do you have to use Nancy Reagan's middle name? Why is it relevant to what you had to say. I believe that there is something sinister behind you using Nancy's middle name

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  • Angry rude Tea HeadJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:44 pm

    G.A.J. I used Nancy Reagan's full name because I know Liberals aren't exceptionally bright and Nancy Davis was the name she used during her days as an actress. I thought by using her full name I wouldn't have to explain everything step by step, to some exceptionally non-bright Liberal, but I over estimated them..

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  • Mad WorldJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:00 pm

    Angry, Fox news radio------------The right is apoplectic about President Obama’s trip to Africa, slated to cost upwards of $60 million, as detailed by the Washington Post. But it’s apparently only wrong when Obama does it. President Obama’s travels to Africa are just like those of the two presidents before him: Bill Clinton went in 1998, and George W. Bush went with his family in 2003 (pictured) and again in 2008. Clinton’s trip cost the government around $42.8 million, according to the Government Accountability Office, and the Post doesn’t mention how much Bush’s trips cost — but to give you an idea, a 2003 trip Bush took to London sounds a lot like Obama’s Africa trip. When Bush went to England in 2003 here’s what the Telegraph reported. Mr. Bush will be accompanied by a retinue consisting of 250 members of the Secret Service, 150 advisers from the National Security Department, 200 representatives of other government departments and 50 political aides. There will also be approximately 100 journalists travelling with him. There are also his personal chef, personal assistants, four cooks, medics and the presidential 15-strong sniffer dog team. Here’s the difference between Bush’s trips and Obama’s: Obama canceled the cost-intensive safari.

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  • MichelleJanuary 22, 2014 - 10:53 pm

    And don't forget my $300 million trip to India for da whole tribe?

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  • Harley RyanJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:21 pm

    I still don't understand why Cookie and others think voices should be censored. If you don't agree with John, write your own letter. It's as simple as that.

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  • Why Bother?January 22, 2014 - 4:41 pm

    Harley, You actually still read Kookie's comments?

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 4:47 pm

    Rent free...

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  • NicoletteJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:49 pm

    Hey Kookie; would you please quit plagiarizing my album?

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 5:54 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_No-One_Live_Rent_Free_in_Your_Head

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 4:46 pm

    Harley, show me where I have ever tried to silence anyone. I receive comments to shut up but I have never given them. I guess you have no reservations about making false statements.

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  • Lary NgitisJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:47 pm

    Harley,It's only unconstitutional when it's their voice being silenced

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  • Lary, gargle with salt waterJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:51 pm

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 4:56 pm

    Harley, have you ever heard of an online comment section? It is a forum where people can discuss current events and sometimes even the specific topic of the debate. It is very popular and even very lively. Not everyone agrees and they have every opportunity to express their opinion. If they lack the ability to defend what they believe they typically accuse others of wanting to censor them.

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  • Live By the SwordJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:42 pm

    Kook, didn't you just acuse people of trying to censor you at 4:46PM? . I guess you have no reservations about making false statements.

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 5:52 pm

    Sword, can you read? I said I received comments to shut up. Which is a factual statement. There are many statements that are directed my way that UNDERMINE anyone on the lefts claim at civilized discourse.

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  • SidestepJanuary 22, 2014 - 6:56 pm

    KookieWhat is the dif between someone telling you to shut up (not speak) and censorship? Try to answer like a big girl.

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 5:44 pm

    Harley, aren't you the one who called ME a chimp?

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  • BonzoJanuary 22, 2014 - 6:42 pm

    No, Kookie, a comparison between you and a chimp? No way. Bad comparison Chimps are capable of joy and laughter. And they don't have tails-Goodall

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  • cookie65January 23, 2014 - 9:56 am

    Chimps will throw sh*t in your face.... Just like me. The tired tactic of claiming those who understand leftism are not happy and joyous couldn't be more wrong. Who was so miserable that they were encouraged to vote to fundamentally transform this country? Or vote for hope and change? Or vote for revenge? Not exactly an endorsement for contentment. I notice none of your collective misery has subsided. In fact it has multiplied. Miserable leftists. A dime a dozen.

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  • can't sign a letter COOKIEJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:24 pm

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  • I Don'tJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:36 pm

    Devil, I see, It’s ok to entertain celebs in the white house as long as you knew them before presidency………..Gotcha

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:41 pm

    No. It's Just a lot cheaper to entertain multiple celebrities at the White house if you knew them before your presidency.

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  • the WH entertainment gold standard!January 22, 2014 - 4:46 pm

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  • It's cheaper how?January 22, 2014 - 5:00 pm

    Devil or is that you Randall?

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  • devil is smarterJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:04 pm

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  • Jim HensonJanuary 22, 2014 - 8:25 pm

    devil is smarter, OK sockpuppet, did you read 4:41 posting? Oh yeah, you wrote it.

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  • Frugal GourmetJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:10 pm

    Cheaper--It's true, I always skimp on my long time friends while entertaining. For example at superbowl party my new friends can eat and drink freely while old friends are limited to one soda, 3 chips, and one M-n-M I found in sofa.

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  • EvelynJanuary 22, 2014 - 5:45 pm

    FG: Very funny rejoinder, esp. the "one M-n-M"!!!

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  • Frugal GourmetJanuary 22, 2014 - 6:02 pm

    Ev, think it's too much? There was a frito behind fridge. I could sub it for the 3 clean chips. What do they care, their old anyway(friends that is). I hope they come back next year.

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  • EvelynJanuary 22, 2014 - 6:10 pm

    FG: You'll soon know who your true friends are!

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  • cookie65January 22, 2014 - 6:05 pm

    Did any of you read about the useful idiots in England who glued themselves to the wrong gas pumps protesting fracking? If those who subscribe to leftists theology get any dumber they will need to be watered.

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  • kggJanuary 22, 2014 - 7:49 pm

    RANDALL GRAHEK: ever hear of free speech?

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 22, 2014 - 11:49 pm

    Michelle's, let it slip?. I was under the impression that America had to be your "HOME COUNTRY" for someone to become President here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k

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  • Conan DoyleJanuary 23, 2014 - 5:13 am

    Devil, Let it slip? Ya mean like your racist 10:53 posting under the name Michelle?

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  • BantustanJanuary 23, 2014 - 7:05 am

    Devil, Thanks for the video from 2010. “Homeland”, like many words has several meanings. One is the reference to parents‘, grandparents’, birthplace. Wiki-----Motherland may refer to a mother country, i.e. the place of one's birth, the place of one's ancestors, the place of origin of an ethnic group or immigrant, or a Metropole in contrast to its colonies. Russians commonly refer to Mother Russia as a personification of their nation. Many Russians around the world refer to Russia as their motherland. The French commonly refer to "la mère Patrie" as France; Latin Americans and 19th century-upper-class Filipinos, commonly refer to Spain as "la Madre Patria"--------JFK often stated Ireland was his homeland. Any problem with that? Or just the black guy?

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  • Where is yours?January 23, 2014 - 7:35 am

    Hey Cookie did you see on the news today where Beck apologizes for being an a$$hole? Daily Beast------Glenn Beck admits his divisive language and outlandish conspiracy theories may have played a role in tearing the country apart. Like Sandy Weill and Robert McNamara before him, Beck’s apology is more than tardy. An uncharacteristically subdued Glenn Beck took to Megyn Kelly’s Fox News show Tuesday to reflect on his own time at the network. The silver-bearded Beck, who left Fox in 2011 after more than two years to start his own online TV and radio show, The Blaze, looked slightly embarrassed watching clips of himself parading around in lederhosen, waving a dead fish and installing a red phone on set strictly for receiving calls from former White House communications director Anita Dunn, a vocal critic of Fox News. “I remember it as an awful lot of fun and that I made an awful lot of mistakes,” Beck told Kelly of his time at Fox. “I wish I could go back and be more uniting in my language because I think I played a role, unfortunately, in helping tear the country apart and it’s not who we are and I didn’t realize how really fragile the people were. I thought we were kind of a little more in it together. Now I look back and I realize if we could have talked about the uniting principles a little bit more, instead of just the problems, I think I would look back on it a little more fondly.”

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 23, 2014 - 8:26 am

    Conan Doyle. Racist?. Really? So if somebodies Black they can't be called out on the cr*p they pull?. That's B.S. and that time has past. Everyone needs to just tell it like it is and let the chips fall where they may!!!. And Bantustan I've never heard of any American President ever refer to another country other than the U.S. as his "Homeland" , maybe his ancestors homeland, but not HIS homeland. And the difference between Kennedy and Obama is, Kennedy didn't have all his person records permanently sealed before running for President. As you put it "Only the black guy" did. P.S. like Obama I'm half black and I'm sad to say I voted for the S.O.B. So stick that in your Ingawa Pipe and smoke it.

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  • cookie65January 23, 2014 - 9:19 am

    Do you notice how the left defends Obama? Any discussion on the "content of his character" and they instantly bring up the "color of his skin". The symbolism is more important than the substance. To call them shallow and empty headed would be euphemistic.

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  • Bill SimpsonJanuary 23, 2014 - 10:35 am

    Devil,……………………..Michelle Jan 22 10:53.………………….. “And don't forget my $300 million trip to India for da whole tribe?” Anyone who refers the first family as “da Tribe” is a racist. As a mullato myself I can assure you . And Devil what half of you is black?

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 23, 2014 - 10:44 am

    Hey Billy. I never posted under the name Michelle on Jan 22 at 10:53 that makes you as stupid as you sound, confirmed!!

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:29 am

    Cookie, tell us the content of his character. I promise not to bring up the color of his skin.

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  • cookie65January 23, 2014 - 9:40 am

    Example #1, he becomes aware of what his administration is doing when he reads about it in the paper.

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  • cookie65January 23, 2014 - 9:44 am

    Example #2, how many times did he knowingly lie to the American people in order to sell his signature legislation?

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  • cookie65January 23, 2014 - 9:46 am

    Example #3, what did he do when he was informed that the American consulate in Benghazi was under terrorist attack?

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 23, 2014 - 9:37 am

    I always felt the Left had at least enough character to only play RACE as their last resort. Either I was wrong or, It appears they are down to their last resort. Can't wait for November

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:41 am

    The ACA may bankrupt health insurance companies? We can only hope.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:42 am

    Cookie, if true, how does that relate to his character?

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:44 am

    The government is immense -- there is no way the president could know everything. So, invalid argument.

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  • cookie65January 23, 2014 - 9:49 am

    We are not talking about the government James. We are talking about HIS administration. Do you really believe he didn't know healthcare.gov didn't work? Do you give him such a pass because of the color of his skin?

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:46 am

    A lie is an intentional misrepresentation. It is not a lie if it is an unintentional misrepresentation. No evidence that he plotted to make an intentional misrepresentation.

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  • cookie65January 23, 2014 - 10:05 am

    This is the dilemma in dealing with the left. An ability to forgo honesty. They insulate themselves from reality by adopting an alternate universe where what ever they choose to believe becomes fact. Unreal James. I grant you a certain level of respect that I don't offer to others. But there are times when you show a willful disregard for the truth on par with many others on here. Does the truth matter to you James?

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:48 am

    Unless you were standing next to him, you do not know when he was told or what his specific actions were -- pure speculation.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:50 am

    EVERYONE NOTE: Cookie brings up the color of his skin, I did not. This speaks volumes.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:53 am

    Cookie, any more references to his character?0

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:54 am

    *** delete 0

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:57 am

    Day 5 of my cold.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 9:59 am

    Cookie, I have no idea what you just said as it relates to the president's character.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 10:09 am

    Cookie, rather than continue your inability to outline the president's alleged character flaws, you now ramble off on unrelated tangents. So, we are finished on that topic. But, I did enjoy that you couldn't come up with any flaws and that you, in the end, brought up the color of his skin.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 10:13 am

    Cookie, willful disregard for the truth. To what truth do you refer?

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 23, 2014 - 10:19 am

    classy,but of what standard

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 23, 2014 - 10:33 am

    Cookie. Debating James is useless, it's like trying to nail jello to the wall. On topic, off topic, here, there, no substance to his arguments, just a bunch of drippy goo, then he'll declare victory. A disturbed man, very disturbed.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 10:52 am

    Devil, I wasn't making arguments, I was rebutting Cookie's failed attempts at knocking the character of the president. But I do love the reversal technique of Tea/Republicans -- they lose and claim they won. It's all they have.

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  • Bill SimpsonJanuary 23, 2014 - 11:38 am

    Devil,……………………..Michelle Jan 22 10:53.………………….. “And don't forget my $300 million trip to India for da whole tribe?” Anyone who refers the first family as “da Tribe” is a racist. As a mullato myself I can assure you . And Devil what half of you is black?

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  • uhhhhhhhhhhhhhJanuary 23, 2014 - 11:49 am

    Devil............Denial aint no river in Egypt

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  • she gives upJanuary 23, 2014 - 12:10 pm

    Devil I think James perfectly rebutted Cookies argument about the predidents character. And as in Cookie fashion I think she knows that cause she is gone gone gone gone...........

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  • Patty DavidJanuary 23, 2014 - 1:18 pm

    @ James E....yep, us locals LUV the mountain Democrat!! U don't? Don't read it!! U don't like That the majority of us in placerville are conservative? Then move!!! :-)

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  • EvelynJanuary 23, 2014 - 1:48 pm

    The Tyranny of the Majority is upon us! Too often we expose ourselves only to ideas and people with which/whom we are in agreement. But telling dissenters to scram..........?

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  • Movin on UpJanuary 23, 2014 - 6:31 pm

    @Patty David, by the looks of your castle by Best Western, it may be easier for you to move.

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  • Hi Liar!January 23, 2014 - 1:51 pm

    Not only do I know Michelle is you but I also know Devil in the details=Kristy Crowder.

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  • Where is the Outrage?January 23, 2014 - 2:05 pm

    @Where is yours?, So let me get this straight, Beck knowingly and for years,spewed lies and hatred, spoonfeeding his nonsense to the Tea Party all in the name of getting rich. He participated in the largest division of this country, and now says he's sorry and it was all a fraud. What's he selling now?

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  • vmartinJanuary 23, 2014 - 3:04 pm

    98 comments so far about this, and only one for the Empty Bowls Supper. Tragic.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 3:25 pm

    Ms. David, me not 'love' the MtDemocrat? I 'love' it as an example of a Tea/Republican propaganda rag. As for moving, I would 'love' to see you and your ilk move. Ilk, I 'love' to use ilk in a sentence. Note to Evelyn: I'm just trying to get Ms. David's BP to hit 450/375. They're so easy.

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 23, 2014 - 3:31 pm

    The empty bowls event is a great event. The Pollock Pines Camino Community Center also served people--we do not get thousands of dollars--but wonderful people worked together to feed 416 people. I honor anyone who works towards making someones life a little easier--even if for a day.

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  • I'm OutragedJanuary 23, 2014 - 3:33 pm

    @Where, Beck says, "I didn’t realize how really fragile the people were". What the heck does that mean? Does he mean unstable? Is he also sorry about the gold he sold to his Beckaroos?

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 3:39 pm

    Given that Beck's pitch was to the Tea/Republican base, it would appear he is saying how easy it was to get them to go batpoop crazy. Liberals listened to his pitch and none of us went batpoop crazy -- we just laughed at him.

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  • Blazin SaddleJanuary 23, 2014 - 4:15 pm

    Loved Beck in his Lederhosen.

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 23, 2014 - 4:09 pm

    Are you going bat-poop crazy as you hang on Chris Matthew's every word, as if it was the gospel according to Libs?

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  • gotta thing for bat-poop?January 23, 2014 - 4:22 pm

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  • Billy ConnollyJanuary 23, 2014 - 4:16 pm

    Heckling is an act of cowardice. If you want to speak, get up in front of the microphone and speak, don't sit in the dark hiding. It's easy to hide and shout and waste people's time.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 4:25 pm

    Again Devil has no way to know if I hang on Chris Matthew's every word, but having nothing substantive to say he/she just threw that in for fun. Devil, sometimes better to say nothing and have you considered moving out of EDC?

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 23, 2014 - 4:40 pm

    filthy language defines your mindset

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  • PigletJanuary 23, 2014 - 5:28 pm

    Is Poo Bear OK?

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 4:45 pm

    Mr. Noll, batpoop crazy is filthy language? Obvious you have never been exposed to real filthy language. Devil, Mr. Noll doesn't like you using 'filthy' language. Please stop it.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 4:48 pm

    Be back later. Feel free to leave your verbal assaults and I will attempt to answer them when I return.

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 23, 2014 - 5:01 pm

    prevalent in prisons

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  • guano crazy?January 23, 2014 - 5:08 pm

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  • DraculaJanuary 23, 2014 - 5:25 pm

    Now, why wouldn't somone go batpoop crazy with little gems like --"I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?" -Beck(2005) Nope, nothin wrong there.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 5:33 pm

    Mr. Noll, no need to be cute, just say it up front and, by the way, how do you know what's prevalent language in prisons? Again, speaking of what you don't know? I'm always amused when Tea/Republicans are stumped and they refer to that which is common knowledge on this site (and doesn't cause me one wit of embarrassment). Appears Mr. Noll never developed beyond the third grade, like many of his ilk who are infantile in their politics and debating skills.

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 23, 2014 - 5:33 pm

    like words you can decide who your friends are

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 5:36 pm

    ADDED: And, if you really want to hear filthy language, don't go to prison, join the Army and you will get an education.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 5:38 pm

    Mr. Noll, really poor response. Try to do better.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 5:44 pm

    Piglet, poo bear is acceptable and known to generations of little children. Mr. Noll will not like the word poo, but we cannot make him happy all the time.

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  • Bend it Like BeckJanuary 23, 2014 - 5:55 pm

    And I so wanted to live in Independence and wear 200 dollar Coal Miner Denim Jeans

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  • DirtJanuary 23, 2014 - 6:00 pm

    I have a filthy mouth and a filthy mind.... I thought that was normal.

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  • James E.January 23, 2014 - 6:09 pm

    Dirt, normal is as normal does -- but don't let Mr. Noll find out.

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  • Billy ConnollyJanuary 23, 2014 - 7:36 pm

    BAD WORDS: http://tinyurl.com/bwwdm96

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  • get outJanuary 23, 2014 - 9:36 pm

    Ms. Patty David I must clarify something. You are telling James to move because EDC is conservative. Well I think better you move because guess what California is liberal. Sooooooookokkk how about. you move to one of those conservative states. Hopefully down the road this country. will become two and all you red states will be one and the blues will be one. Soooooooo you better get a jump on it. .

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  • Patty DavidJanuary 24, 2014 - 8:57 am

    Hahahahaha....I must refrain from commenting In the future. I'm not one to argue. I realize that Cali is a liberal state. I LUV Placerville So much. I LUV running into child hood chums. I may live in a shack by the best western...but it's paid for...and prime property. :-P

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  • R.J. CarterJanuary 24, 2014 - 1:59 pm

    Hey James......Do ya remember all the stories about how Christmas carols were being banded in public schools over the holiday season......Well, It appears that Christianity is the only religion in the U.S. that's coming under fire...Open the link, and as retired U.S. Army Col. I just wondered how you felt about this???...... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Military-Religion/2014/01/22/id/548447

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  • James E.January 24, 2014 - 2:17 pm

    R.J., are you referring to the military allowing religious military 'clothing' on a case by case basis? How do I feel about it? Well, I believe Army first and religion second as regards military 'clothing.' When I see a mass formation of 700 soldiers I want them all to look alike -- one unit, one mission. When the day is done, pursue any religion they wish, while wearing civilian clothing. R.J., I wonder. Did you think I would welcome this change in policy? I don't, as I don't believe in Christian soldiers marching off as to war. Army first, religion second.

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  • R.J. CarterJanuary 24, 2014 - 2:23 pm

    James.......Absolutely!!....Perfect answer!!!....

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 24, 2014 - 2:25 pm

    I agree james..excellent answer.

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