Wednesday, April 16, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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Fix Social Security

EDITOR:

Fix Social Security? Just lift the cap and it is estimated it will be good for 75 years.

The top 25 hedge fund managers take in close to a billion dollars per year each. If you made a thousand million dollars a year would you mind a rise in your social security tax?

No need for Social Security recipients to lose their earned benefit as a non-solution. No, it’s not an entitlement — it’s an earned benefit.

Just lift the cap.

JAMES E. LONGHOFER
Placerville

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  • James E.May 02, 2013 - 7:19 pm

    Phil, here's another one.

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  • James E.May 02, 2013 - 7:23 pm

    Off to watch basketball -- be back later.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 02, 2013 - 8:34 pm

    I have a comment, James, but some stupid filter is killing it. Whaz up???

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 02, 2013 - 9:35 pm

    sample link test - LINK - BehindTheBlack - link posting problem

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  • James E.May 02, 2013 - 10:30 pm

    Phil, keep trying. Your test link came through.

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  • James E.May 02, 2013 - 10:34 pm

    The Warriors won, but they only won by the hair on their chinny chinny chins. Goodness, their fourth period was horrible -- around 2,486 turnovers.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 02, 2013 - 10:46 pm

    Colonel, there you go again! If you promote class envy you might be a liberal. If you assert that we have “earned” SS you might be a liberal. If you can’t do the math you might be a liberal…………………….. LINK - 14.14 billion dollars divided by 25 managers equals only $565,600,000 average between the top 25 You should be ashamed of yourself, James, begrudging an average of only $565,600,000. Go track down George Soros, the REAL currency destructor, and leave these amateurs alone.

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  • James E.May 02, 2013 - 11:02 pm

    Phil, per your numbers I was only off by $435 million per hedge manager. But, a $535 million yearly income will keep you in steak and cigars even if you have to pay more in Social Security taxes. Actually, I recently noted the billion dollar income per hedge fund manager figures, but now I cannot remember where. I also don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday. You know Republicans like to call them entitlements so they can use the word in a snarky way -- oh, they think they are entitled to everything. I have to admit, you guys are good when it comes to snarky. Anyway, if I made $535 million this year I could get my roof replaced and have money left over.

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  • James E.May 02, 2013 - 11:11 pm

    Phil, I just read your link. Three of them made over a billion a year, with one making $1.7 billion. Poor guys, sure hope they don't have to pay more Social Security taxes. $1.7 billion (one thousand seven hundred million dollars in one year). Boggles the mind -- who is worth that kind of money and what exactly did he do to "earn" such? If the cap is lifted Social Security will be just fine. Yet, no one in DC even discusses it. Guess they don't want to rile up the rich folks and make those contributions (bribes?) dry up. Our wonderful Congress.

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  • cookie65May 08, 2013 - 8:05 am

    James, how many of those Hedge fund managers are also top democrat donors? Including private parties at the Whitehouse. Not long ago the leftists had a line I don't hear or see much anymore. They accused anyone who didn't vote in lockstep with them as voting against their own interests. I know there isn't any chance they suddenly grew a brain and figured out who the politicians truly look out.

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  • James E.May 08, 2013 - 9:22 am

    Cookie, I don't know how many of them contribute to Democrats -- it would be interesting to see the Democrat/Republican/Independent spread. I'm sure they contribute in their interests of what they can get back from the political parties. Money rules in our system, and it would be nice to see a little of it trickling down to Social Security via lifting the cap.

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  • cookie65May 08, 2013 - 10:09 am

    When obama, reid and pelosi had control of everything they spent all their time taking over healthcare rather than doing things that could have been more productive.

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  • Ken SteersMay 08, 2013 - 3:35 pm

    It's easier to have taxation with out representation. They took the cap off of Medicare so why not?

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  • cookie65May 08, 2013 - 3:43 pm

    Ken, Benjamin Franklin's famous quote doesn't mention "representation", only death and taxes. I have always wondered how much the mental illness of leftism existed during the founding of this country, because everything the wrote was in anticipation of it.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 08, 2013 - 3:51 pm

    I have always wondered how much the mental illness of leftism existed during the founding of this country, . . . Cookie you surely remember that THANKSGIVING is a victory celebration over the leftism of the communal structure of the first colony.

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  • James E.May 08, 2013 - 3:59 pm

    Phil, NO TURKEY FOR YOU!!!!! Darn, I accidentally hit abusive comment. Can it be rescinded or will it be on Phil's permanent record even thought it was a mistake. I recant MtDemocrat.

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  • cookie65May 08, 2013 - 4:39 pm

    You nailed it Phil, dumping the utopia of socialism is the only reason they survived.

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  • Ken SteersMay 08, 2013 - 7:47 pm

    Back a half a century ago I was taught that the Colonist first left England France and the Netherlands to escape religious persecution. And I think some were forced from their homes in Europe for just that reason.

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  • cookie65May 08, 2013 - 8:48 pm

    Ken, that is exactly why they left. The church viewed them as separatists.

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  • Ken SteersMay 09, 2013 - 7:22 am

    Cookie, my point being in agreement with you. Socialism is a religion. And doesn't tolerate any other point of view.

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  • cookie65May 09, 2013 - 8:44 am

    Ken, the socialism Phil and I were referring to was what happened after they arrived. They organized a communal food supply and many of them starved to death because there were more mouths than those willing to work. The next year they dumped the notion of a social contract and adopted the free enterprise attitude were if you wanted to eat you had to provide your own food. It was then that they flourished. They celebrated their bounty with the first Thanksgiving. It is just another example of historical fact that the leftists would prefer stricken from the history books. It is an inconvenient truth for them.

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  • cookie65May 09, 2013 - 8:56 am

    The thing socialists don't understand is collectivism leads to cannibalism. Yes socialists eventually eat their young. http://rayharvey.org/index.php/tag/cannibalism/

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  • cookie65May 09, 2013 - 8:58 am

    Collectivism leads to cannibalism. http://rayharvey.org/index.php/tag/cannibalism/

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  • justavisitorMay 09, 2013 - 1:28 pm

    Just stumbled upon your little paper. From where I work and sit on the East and far west coasts of America, Obama's and the Liberal's policies have saved this country. Hilary is next! Thank gawd the GOP is dying. Watch those hypocrites squirm as they embrace same sex marriage, undocumented workers etc. Long live the LEFT!

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  • cookie65May 09, 2013 - 1:48 pm

    "I'll take something a braindead leftists would say for $200, Alex."

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 09, 2013 - 2:29 pm

    A cookie costs $2.00 today. Tomorrow the cookie is supposed to cost $3.00. Evil Republicans insist that the cookie cost $2.50 tomorrow. . . . QUESTION . . .

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  • James E.May 09, 2013 - 3:17 pm

    Phil, need more information. A cookie today $2.00, tomorrow $3.00. Republicans say it should be $2.50 tomorrow? What kind of cookie? Also, do you advocate price controls in the economy?

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  • AnthonyMay 09, 2013 - 7:29 pm

    In reading the comments about how socialism "killed" the first American settlement (that would be Jamestown VA established 1609), it should be pointed out that the Algonquin Indians did just fine with communal living for centuries before Europeans arrived. No one "owned" the land or its resources. The benefits where shared. Don't blame communal living and socialism for the inability of European colonists to adapt to their surroundings and follow the example of the indigenous people who had lived and thrived in the same location for countless generations. The Algonquins were none too fond of illegal immigrants either, as some of the deaths of the original colonists were attributed to ongoing skirmishes with Algonquin warriors who believed that they would decide who was and was not entitled to live on that land. As is always the case in the history of mankind, the people with superior firepower won. Less than 40 years after the inhabitants of the original Jamestown colony perished, the Algonquins were forced to give up most of their territory.

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  • EvelynMay 09, 2013 - 7:47 pm

    "Blocks to Critical Thinking" - HERE (An thoughtful -- very long -- article which I recommend for everyone but expect nobody to read. With one exception.)

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  • EvelynMay 09, 2013 - 7:48 pm

    oops. (A thoughtful . . . )

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  • AnthonyMay 09, 2013 - 8:09 pm

    Evelyn, I skimmed the article. Looks like interesting reading. I will try to find some time to review it in detail. But just browsing through the article, I see that it supports on rule I try to live by. We should be at our most skeptical when someone is telling us exactly what we want to hear. Actually I think it was President Reagan who said it best; Trust, but verify...

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  • James E.May 09, 2013 - 9:00 pm

    Phil, the cost of cookies, over.

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  • cookie65May 09, 2013 - 9:15 pm

    Anthony, the Indians were comprised mostly of family members where each and everyone contributed to the work. That is a long way from socialism. The socialism you are trying to compare them to is where 50+million people are living solely on the efforts of others.

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 09, 2013 - 9:37 pm

    James, my computer is set to not accept cookeis regardless of price or metaphorical lameness.

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  • cookie65May 09, 2013 - 9:40 pm

    Evelyn, does knowing that the sun will rise tomorrow make me an egocentric thinker?

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  • cookie65May 09, 2013 - 9:54 pm

    Phil, does that mean you can't see my comments? You should be so lucky. Some on here would pay you more for your computer than what it is worth...LOL!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 09, 2013 - 10:00 pm

    You have hacked my filter . . . Damn!

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  • EvelynMay 10, 2013 - 4:54 am

    Anthony: Good point. We all love to hear what we love to hear! ********* Cookie65: Probably not.

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  • cookie65May 10, 2013 - 5:09 am

    Why not? It fits all the categories they claim are egocentric thinking. I noticed that in their version of critical thinking it had more to do with being influenced by what others think than the simple practice of asking questions. Pursuing something to its most basic element is the best practice of critical thinking skills. Understanding that everything you see and hear is the production of someone who wants to influence you is another. But I think we have discussed that before. To me the entire thing had a motivation and it wasn't to explain critical thinking it was to label people who didn't see things their way.

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  • cookie65May 10, 2013 - 5:13 am

    Also, I don't think egocentric thinking is the opposite of critical thinking. I think lazy mindedness is the opposite of critical thinking. It is like I have said hundreds of times, some people just prefer being told what to believe. I would bet you $100 that the people who wrote this support the man-made global warming fraud.

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  • cookie65May 10, 2013 - 5:41 am

    Here is an example. In order for me to believe obama's reference to "his muslim faith" during an interview was simply misspeaking I would have to believe that a catholic could mistakenly refer to their jewish faith. Or a muslim could mistakenly refer to their Christian faith. Or a survivor of Auschwitz mistakenly refer to their Nazism. Or that hillary really did misremember when she talked about being under sniper fire on the tarmac. Now my question is, are those thoughts critical or egocentric thinking?

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  • EvelynMay 10, 2013 - 5:44 am

    Cookie65: Having perused the document, you will have read: "Cultural conditioning refers to the process by which society’s attitudes and values are passed on to its members." Does the sun's daily rising, observable by sighted persons in any culture in any part of the world, constitute (a) ATTITUDES AND VALUES, (b) FACT, or (c) SCIENTIFIC FRAUD?

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  • cookie65May 10, 2013 - 9:44 am

    Evelyn, the reason I asked that question is because there are certain societal attitudes and values that have to remain as constant as the sunrise and can never become subject of relativism or enlightened points of view otherwise society ceases to exist. Society and culture is defined by them, FACT. It is all part of the redefining of words and language.

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