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From page A5 | September 04, 2013 | 78 Comments

EDITOR:

At present, Washington is trying to decide what to do with billions in foreign aid designated for Egypt because of the current turmoil they are in. Somehow I find it interesting that a country, trillions in debt, can send billions of foreign aid to countries that basically hate us.

However it is only the citizens who hate us. They do not get any of the aid as it essentially all goes to the leaders and influential citizens who are basically already rich. Why does America think it has to throw money through out the world to gain respect we never get? That has not done any good in the past so why continue the stupidity?

Let the Arab nations fight amongst themselves. The demise of radically demented men will do more good than any American dollar can do.

RAY LABAHN
Placerville

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  • James E.August 30, 2013 - 3:01 pm

    The U.S. gives military aid in its own interest as 90% of the money sent to Egypt has to be spent on our military weapons.

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  • cookie65September 04, 2013 - 6:35 am

    James, I defy you to prove any instance where 90% of our government spending or foreign aid goes to its intended purpose. I have a nice shiny new bridge for you.

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  • cookie65September 04, 2013 - 7:05 am

    Another stellar example of the success that follows obama's spending. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/special-report-we-all-thought-libya-had-moved-on--it-has-but-into-lawlessness-and-ruin-8797041.html

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 10:18 am

    Cookie, my foreign aid comment only applied to Egypt. They get $1.5B a year of which $1.3B is military equipment sold by our corporations to Egypt. That's 90% -- Google it. Now, let's discuss something more important and something of great interest to all -- are you a man or a woman. I vote woman.

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  • cookie65September 04, 2013 - 10:39 am

    Even more important than that James is Obama's latest claim that the credibility of every member of the human race is on the line with the exception of himself. How many excuses are you willing to make for him James? We would have been better served by leaving the whitehouse unoccupied for 8 years. Oh wait, other than reckless spending and over the top vacations, we have. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/09/04/201163/obama-i-didnt-draw-the-red-line.html#.UiduB-Dn99A

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 10:50 am

    Cookie, no your gender is most important. I cannot think of a reason you would keep your gender hidden. And, that you do reinforces my opinion you are a woman. A man wouldn't care about hiding his gender. Oh, and as for the president's reckless spending, can he spend anything that hasn't been authorized by Congress?

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 10:53 am

    ADDED: Oh, and George W. Bush is the vacation champion, never to be exceeded by any president, now, or in the future.

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  • cookie65September 04, 2013 - 11:06 am

    Did he take $100million trips to his ranch in Texas?

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 11:12 am

    Cookie, so you are cool to the president taking vacations, it's the cost. Again, the funding authorized by the Congress. Just my opinion, but when we have the military in combat I think the president and his family should be restricted to Camp David. Just a little sacrifice to support the troops.

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  • R J CarterSeptember 04, 2013 - 11:23 am

    Bush vacation record looks that way because Libs and their lap-dog media counted all trips to the Bush's TX ranch where the 'State dinners' were held during his presidency as "vacation time"..... Bush's office at his ranch was converted to a mini Oval office so that he could work work there just as if he were in the White House....Then there's Obama, who does no work on vacation and his lavish vacations cost millions and millions more in taxpayer dollars.... Obama's constantly living large, parting, golfing and vacationing at taxpayers expense, but as long as he has those who will continue to make excuses for him it's all cool.....

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 11:41 am

    R.J., do you know for a fact that the president does no work while on vacation? Source? But, you are right that Bush never golfed. A non-golfing president.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 11:42 am

    R.J., but all that aside. The important question is whether Cookie is a man or woman. Your guess?

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 11:44 am

    As I'm about to depart to see the world, I want to give my recep

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 11:46 am

    Opps, my recipe for getting rid of the queen in an ant nest. Heat up a little water in a bowl. Add 4 tablespoons of sugar and one tablespoon of Borax. Soak cotton balls in the solution and place near ant trails. The worker ants carry it back to the queen and soon you have no ant problem.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 11:48 am

    Be back later.

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  • EvelynSeptember 04, 2013 - 12:12 pm

    James: Thanks for the ant recipe!!!

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  • Paddy O'furnitureSeptember 04, 2013 - 12:24 pm

    James, Cookie's gender is as important as the style of skivvies that Bill Clinton wore (but Monica would know since she spent so much time in them). Your president is a hopeless incompetent and nothing will mask the fact. He is however, backtracking on the Red Line in Syria thing, so maybe we won't have to claw back the Peace Prize after all. ................................................................................... Well, except for the Libya bombings. And Pakistan. And then there was the Yemen thing too...And he pretty much owns the Afghan war as well... Am I missing anything?

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  • Dee#1September 04, 2013 - 1:02 pm

    So Longhofer doesn't have any facts or rational thoughts of why he automatically agrees with the incompetent guy in the White House, Longhofer has to change the discussion to gender of the commentators. What a sexist ploy.

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  • R J CarterSeptember 04, 2013 - 1:18 pm

    A Senate panel has just voted to give Obama the authority to use military force against Syria in response to a chemical weapons attack......So, let me get this straight, our mortal enemies are in a civil war with our mortal enemies and somehow that's a bad thing..I thought our enemies killing each other was kind of a good thing for our country, but for some reason our President wants to go to war and help our enemies fight each other...Huh?? ....Besides, If it's all about chemical weapons, how do we go about bombing Syria's chemical weapons without releasing all the chemical weapons in the process??....I think it's more about the teenage son of Syria's President poking fun at Obama on his Facebook page than it is chemical weapons.... No matter how you look at it the skunk has just replaced the Eagle as the symbol of the American Presidency...Half black, half white, and everything it does stinks.....

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  • EvelynSeptember 04, 2013 - 1:20 pm

    Apparently GW Bush played golf 24 times throughout his 8 years; Obama = 100 times so far. (I won't bother with the documentation; take my word for it!) But HERE'S a more significant benchmark: "Obama's Syria Coalition Makes Bush's 'Look Like the League of Nations'"

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  • EvelynSeptember 04, 2013 - 1:24 pm

    'Syria: Conservative Icons Put “Anti-War” Left to Shame' - HERE

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  • EvelynSeptember 04, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    I would really like confirmation of THIS but doubt it will be readily available.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 3:53 pm

    Dee#1, did someone ask me if I agree with the president on Syria? Give me a quote and I'll answer.

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  • cookie65September 04, 2013 - 3:54 pm

    Someone in New Mexico has donated a facility for obama's presidential library. It is already full of obama's accomplishments. http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/09/04/Outrage-over-Outhouse-Labeled-Obama-s-Presidential-Library

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 3:59 pm

    Paddy, in our little pond here in EDC Cookie's gender equates to any thing we could discuss on this thread. And my president is incompetent? If that's your position, then your president is incompetent too and he will be your president until January 2017. So much bile in EDC.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:04 pm

    Dee#1, it cannot be a sexist ploy given we are not sure of Cookie's gender. Yet, you seem to flay away with your sexist attitude against me. I'm male, you're female, and you are being a sexist.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:10 pm

    Dee#1, I'm a delicate flower and your sexist comments are causing me extreme emotional distress. Please stop and be a lady.

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  • cookie65September 04, 2013 - 4:10 pm

    According to the state of California I get to choose my gender regardless of my age. In Germany birth certificates have a 3rd option for gender. I'm not sure why James is only giving me two choices. Rather regressive of you James.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:13 pm

    Cookie, you can choose left, right, or center. Which is it? Still think it's female.

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  • cookie65September 04, 2013 - 4:19 pm

    Bradley/Chelsea Manning suffers from gender dysphoria. We should all prove we are compassionate and donate to his reassignment surgery the same way the groupthink leftists proved they weren't racists by voting for a community organizer. James have you ever wondered why a Harvard grad was only able to leverage such a high end education into such a witless occupation? He could have been a high school drop out and became a community organizer. All the signs were there James of what an empty suit he is.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 4:21 pm

    James, "Cookie" is the name of a complex alcorythm residing deep inside a super computer owned by the Illuminati and operated by Rush.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:22 pm

    Cookie, the connection between Ms. Manning and the president is? You start with Ms. Manning and end with the president only being a community organizer. What's the middle connection?

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 4:22 pm

    Alcorythm

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 4:24 pm

    algorithm ?

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:25 pm

    Phil, I had no idea. Cookie is a computer, like Hal in 2001. Ergo, no gender. P.S. My wife just made me a strawberry milkshake -- a good wife.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:34 pm

    President's library in New Mexico? I don't think so. It will be in Placerville or Chicago. Pick one.

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  • Dee#1September 04, 2013 - 4:40 pm

    Longhofer "stop and be a lady"? How sexist can you get? Just another attempt to control behavior.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:41 pm

    There seems to be a pause, so I'm going off to do some stuff. Be back later. Phil, thank you for Cookie/computer -- it never would have occurred to me. Her comments seem so real.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 4:41 pm

    Dee#1 -- CONTROL YOURSELF. Later.

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  • kggSeptember 04, 2013 - 6:15 pm

    "let us remember, the main purpose of american foreign policy is not to help other nations but to help outselves. " richard nixon

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  • kggSeptember 04, 2013 - 6:23 pm

    Evelyn wrote: "Apparently GW Bush played golf 24 times throughout his 8 years; Obama = 100 times so far. (I won't bother with the documentation; take my word for it!)" kgg wrote: from january 2009 - august 31 is about 4 years and 7 months. that works out to playing golf about once every 2.31 weeks. what is so scandalous about that?

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  • EvelynSeptember 04, 2013 - 6:40 pm

    kgg: Out of context the golf info. was indeed odd! See 11:23am & 11:41am above to make sense of my random interjection.

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  • JackSeptember 04, 2013 - 7:08 pm

    Col. Longhoffer is right, of course. Egypt is required to spend our aid money in the U.S., purchasing U.S. made stuff. Historians are coming in with a verdict on Dubya: he was a disaster for which we will pay for decades to come. Example? Because of the lies that led to the Iraq fiasco, every president will now face an uphill battle in convincing the American people that it is in our national interest to intervene in XXX place. The right (like mcCain and Lindsey Graham) are protesting that Obama is 'telegraphing' his punches to the enemy. Whose fault is it that the President has to jump through hoops to nail his case? Yes, the McCains and Grahams who swallowed the Iraq lies. And Evelyn: So Dubya played golf a couple of times only!! However, he spent more time cutting brush on his ranch than Obama has spent golfing.

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  • EvelynSeptember 04, 2013 - 8:11 pm

    Jack: May the better man win! I've got no horse in this race.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 8:22 pm

    Jack, your "history premise" stands/depends squarely on the "fact of the lie" (Bush lied. People died.) I believe that history will gradually erode that "fact" and "Bush lied, people died" will be exposed for the lie that it is. As Jim Baker cogently observed in the lead-up to Bush v Gore, "We shall see".

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 8:28 pm

    Phil, given the fix was in with the Supreme Court, Baker was quite safe in saying we shall see.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 8:30 pm

    Cookie, I'll go 10 to 1 on Jack still believing Bush stole the election from algore.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 8:37 pm

    James, I take it you have a large popcorn near at hand? Good! My logon grief is fixed. Fire at will! I just got rid of an abusive post!!!(in 6 shots)

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  • 5 will do itSeptember 04, 2013 - 8:44 pm

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 8:45 pm

    BTW your 04, 2013 - 8:28 pm missed low left. Elevate 4 clicks and12 clicks right.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 8:50 pm

    Phil, I do not mean to prejudge Bush v Gore (but I just did). A rational Supreme Court finding would have been count all the votes and that will decide who wins. The Bush brief was that the court should stop the vote (with Bush slightly ahead), and that's what the court did. It cannot be explained and the court was careful to say their finding would never apply again. Therefore, my conclusion was that the fix was in. Obviously, Republicans would disagree as Bush won via the court.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 8:52 pm

    Phil, you have that backwards as the court did. You always come back to the gun target line and then you do distance.

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  • Dee#1September 04, 2013 - 8:56 pm

    From the Daily Mail-------Securing Syria's chemical weapons stockpiles and the facilities that produced them would likely require the U.S. to send more than 75,000 ground troops into the Middle Eastern country, MailOnline learned Wednesday. That estimate comes from a secret memorandum the U.S. Department of Defense prepared for President Obama in early 2012. U.S. Central Command arrived at the figure of 75,000 ground troops as part of a written series of military options for dealing with Bashar al-Assad more than 18 months ago, long before the U.S. confirmed internally that the Syrian dictator was using the weapons against rebel factions within his borders. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2411885/Revealed-Pentagon-knew-2012-75-000-GROUND-TROOPS-secure-Syrias-chemical-weapons-facilities.html#ixzz2dzFk2LeG

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 8:59 pm

    Artillery adjustment -- stuff you learn and do in the Army with absolutely no civilian application. Again, if you are off left or right, bring it back to the gun target line, and then up or down and then fire for effect. Either on target or adjust again.

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  • Lower MathSeptember 04, 2013 - 9:00 pm

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 9:08 pm

    Curiously, James, the NYT the LAT and I believe Chicago papers sent teams to Florida to do their own recounts. . . . Do you recall? If you do not recall it's because EVERY SUBSEQUENT RECOUNT showed . . . wait . . . drum roll . . . suspense builds . . . BUSH WON!!! The Supreme Court saved the country from a Constitutional crisis by ending a corrupt Democrat process that would not have ended until the "correct" outcome had been achieved. . . . But love prevailed when Ted Olson and David Boies teamed up for LGBTs.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 9:12 pm

    Phil, I do recall, although some Democrats claimed just the opposite. So, counting the votes was the solution. How did the Supreme Court miss that?

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 9:17 pm

    Yes, James Democrats continue to lie . . . even without the NYT, LAT et al backup. Surely, James, you must agree that if a major paper had found an algore "victory" it would have been . . . uh . . . NEWS?

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 9:17 pm

    Phil, I just Googled the media recounts. The battle continues -- half gave it to Bush, half gave it to Gore.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 9:19 pm

    But, let the two of us agree to disagree. Cannot feel too bad for Gore, if he had won his home state of TN there never would have been a question in Florida. What presidential candidate cannot win his own state?

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 9:24 pm

    Phil, its been a long time but I think it was news. But, seen as sour grapes and died quickly. I see that you are quick to say Democrats lie while Republicans are pristine. In court, do Republicans even have to take the oath to tell the whole truth as they are always truthful? Sounds crazy, doesn't it -- a moral absolute.

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  • James E.September 04, 2013 - 9:28 pm

    OK, off to Netflix and then night night. Phil, goodnight to you Sir. Tomorrow is another day in wonderful September.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 04, 2013 - 9:29 pm

    Exactly, James. That TN thing is sort of An Inconvenient Truth.

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  • cookie65September 05, 2013 - 5:43 am

    Phil, jack and his magic beans made the typical leftists claim that everything leads back to Bush. Even obama's difficulty selling his strategy in Syria. I will never understand the lack of intellectual curiosity of so many people. In Syria our mortal enemies are fighting against our mortal enemies and the man-child and his halfwit group of bootlickers want to choose sides. This is a good article that corrects a little of the history the left has revised to fit its political agenda. http://spectator.org/archives/2013/09/05/john-kerrys-bright-shining-lie/

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 05, 2013 - 6:11 am

    Thanks, Cookie. - From the Los Angeles Times, June 16, 2008 - LINK - Nearly every prominent Democrat in the country has repeated some version of this charge,Bush lied. People died. and the notion that the Bush administration deceived the American people has become the accepted narrative of how we went to war.

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  • cookie65September 05, 2013 - 6:17 am

    Jack, I realize you have severe challenges and sympathize with how difficult it must be for you to generate an original thought. Here is a short list of very prominent dem's who supported the invasion of Iraq. I can also provide you with a list of foreign leaders who supported it as well. Using two leftist-lite, washed up republican establishment clowns like mclaim and gramnesty in an argument is a pathetic example that you get fed your beliefs. I realize you won't even look at the link I provided because it isn't how the leftist mind operates. You actually prefer the darkness over the light. Being told what to believe is much less complicated than doing any of your own thinking. http://www.reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info/

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 05, 2013 - 6:30 am

    ~ easy access for Jack ~ LINK - Pre-War Quotes from Democrats ~ just in case Jack does not know how to cut and paste links ~

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  • cookie65September 05, 2013 - 6:38 am

    Phil, did you note how many of those quotes came during the clinton years? Before President Bush was ever to blame for obama's incompetence.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 05, 2013 - 6:54 am

    these are nice - "We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. ~~~ "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

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  • cookie65September 05, 2013 - 7:10 am

    Phil, Jack should have some familiarity with "cut and paste" it is the process by which all of his thoughts derive.

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  • R.J. CarterSeptember 05, 2013 - 8:07 am

    As all the Kool-Aid drinking Obama-loving Liberal's applaud the little King's decision for a limited air strike with no boots on the ground, just remember Pearl Harbor was a limited air strike with no boots on the ground, that brought the U.S. into WWII...But, before anyone dare complain about a WWIII just remember it will all be Bush's fault and your a racist..(sarcasm).

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  • cookie65September 05, 2013 - 8:19 am

    R.J. this is the side obozo and kerry want to defend. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/world/middleeast/brutality-of-syrian-rebels-pose-dilemma-in-west.html?hp&_r=0

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  • cookie65September 05, 2013 - 8:33 am

    I am sure many on here came across the story of john mclaim claiming "allahu Akbar" was somehow equivalent to Christians saying "thank God". The leftist media had a field day with it. "Praise God" would be more precise but that isn't my dispute. My question concerns the comparison in general. How much evidence exists of Christians screaming "praise God" as they fly fully loaded passenger jets into buildings or oceans? Or as they are sawing thru the thyroid gland of someone bound with their hands behind their back and a bag over their head? Or as they set off the C-4 strapped to themselves on busses, in pizza parlors and any other place were mass innocent casualties of the infidel can be created? Or while they are mowing down American military personnel in an incident of workplace violence like fort Hood?

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  • cookie65September 05, 2013 - 8:41 am

    Is screaming "allahu Akbar" in a crowded mall any different than yelling "fire" in a movie theatre?

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  • James E.September 05, 2013 - 11:09 am

    Cookie, not being a Muslim I'm not sure of the specific meaning of Allahu Akbar (Sp?), but I thought it means "God is Great."

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  • James E.September 05, 2013 - 11:23 am

    The House will not approve the Syrian war resolution. The president knew it wouldn't pass where the anti-Obama vote would be combined with the anti-war vote. Why then would the president give the decision to the Congress when he knew it wouldn't pass? The following is my speculation -- please do not come and burn down my house along with my four little pups. The president makes his red line speech. Syria (or rebels) uses poison gas. Now, president has to react or his foreign policy creds are destroyed. But, having gotten out of Iraq and trying to get out of Afghanistan, he doesn't want to start another Middle East conflict. What to do? Let the Congress decide and if they vote no, the president has done the right thing and he is off the hook. Any future use of poison gas is on the Congress. Who said the president cannot play Chess. Now, this is merely speculation as I have no idea what is going on in Washington. Again, please do not burn down my house or subject me to a drive by shooting as I enjoy my front porch. Comments invited.

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  • James E.September 05, 2013 - 11:54 am

    Evelyn, reference my recipe to get rid of the queen in the ant nest. My first problem was boric acid. The kind in the wash soap or something more refined? I went to Amazon.com and looked up what they had in the boric acid field. I found Zap-A-Roach Roach & Ant Killer. Now, I don't have roaches, but I do have ants. This stuff is 100% boric acid, so it is exactly what is needed. It wasn't expensive. Good hunting.

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  • EvelynSeptember 05, 2013 - 1:09 pm

    James: My ant problem is pretty minimal, but I'll definitely remember your recipe: 4:1 plus water to dissolve. I have a life-time supply of Borax. If that doesn't work, I'll upgrade to the real deal. Thanks!

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