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Government shutdown

EDITOR:

The following California members of Congress voted “No” to ending the government shutdown: John Campbell, Jeff Denham, Duncan Hunter, Doug LaMalfa, Tom McClintlock, Dana Rohrabacker and Ed Royce.

The main purpose for the shutdown was to defund the Affordable Care Act, but the effect was to cost our country billions of dollars, and slow a fragile recovery. It has hurt many of the very people they are supposed to represent.

Some people will believe that the cause was just and that others in Congress caved in too soon, and that the fight for their beliefs should be rewarded by continuing their presence in Washington. Others may believe differently.

What is it with the ACA law that they are afraid of? That it might work? Or is there a money trail somewhere in this scenario? It would be far better to try and implement the law than shut down the government. No doubt the ACA will have troubles in startup and there will be parts of the law that may need to be changed, just like Medicare and Social Security when they were introduced. As our elected representatives, they need to work to improve, amend, or change the law to make it better for all.

There are millions of people that need the provisions offered. Compromise with the ACA, taxes, immigration and job creation can be a win for everyone. In the meantime — save the above list for the next election.

PAUL FREEMAN
Cameron Park

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Discussion | 38 comments

  • MartinNovember 13, 2013 - 5:59 am

    More unemployment and people living on subsistence than ever before and you blame the Republicans? Think again friend your blaming the wrong party for this dilemma; As Ronnie said "The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become whatever God intends he should become." And another quote “I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts." We are losing the war to socialism; something that has never worked and never will.

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  • Ann BlumNovember 14, 2013 - 9:57 am

    Thank you Mr Freeman, for reminding me that I need to thank those California Congress Members for listening to the people who elected them and not just going along with the status quo.

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 6:04 am

    The federal government is assuming powers it is not granted. ocommycare is not intended to work. It is intended to make the federal government the provider. If you wanted to control the lives of every American can you think of a better way than by controlling their healthcare? Liberty is a fragile thing, easy to lose and nearly impossible to get back. Those who think this is about healthcare are no different than the jews who voted for the national socialist german workers' party. I am amazed at people who still don't question this massive power grab knowing it was passed based entirely on lies. Amazing to witness how apathetic Americans have become. Give me free stuff and I will grab my ankles all day long. You can't buy adults with a piece of candy but you can buy children with it. ocommycare (leftism in general) truly separates the adults from the children.

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  • Jeffrey ScottNovember 13, 2013 - 12:50 pm

    Cookie, Your whole argument goes right into the dustbin (again) because you are ASSUMING that only Democrat leaders are lying to their constituents. Hate to break it to you, but you are being lied to by your Republican leaders as well. The dance of the day is spin...spin...spin. It's an unfortunate fact that And again, your usage of silly little immature name calling serves no purpose but to further undermine your one-sided argument.

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 1:58 pm

    Jeffery Scott, you should read more of my comments. I am an equal opportunity offender when it comes to government. I see very little difference between the r's and the d's. My focus is directed at leftism, whether it is leftism from the r's or the d's. The single reason our government is so out of control is because of all the people in this country who believe they are owed. You can try and undermine my comment all you want but the fact is this country is headed down the road of socialism and who is driving it in that direction? Government has overgrown 10 fold of what it should be and it continues whether the d's are in charge or the r's are in charge.

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  • Jeffrey ScottNovember 14, 2013 - 12:24 pm

    Hi Cookie, I actually do read many of your comments. They are numerous to say the least. This is an interesting thing you say that you are fighting 'leftism' even from the r's. Maybe I'm dumb, or ignorant (I've been called these and worse!), but I definitely don't know what you mean by leftism if you are including republicans. Maybe you could help me understand. Maybe it was Governor Christie when he took federal money to help repair New Jersey after Sandy? Is that an example of republicans feeling like they are owed something? Is it the millions of republicans on some sort of government assistance like welfare or unemployment, or using the ER because they can't afford healthcare but their child is sick? FOX news even slammed mothers on maternity leave as socialist leeches until one of their own anchors took advantage of that program. My point is, it's too easy to generalize. it's too easy to say that everyone collecting food stamps is wrongly sucking off the government teat. It's too easy to say that all families collecting welfare and housing subsidies are unpatriotic losers who should get off their lazy rear ends and get a job. I hope that you or someone in your family, or a close friend never gets into a situation where they have to rely on a government safety net. It is a horrible, degrading thing that eats at most recipients self esteem and sense of worth. But for some, it is an unfortunate necessity. If that is leftism, then I am all for it.

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 4:06 pm

    According to piglosi 5 times as many people have signed up as actually have. But we all know why it needed to be passed before anyone knew what was in it. If the lemmings would have known what all us ignorant people knew it wouldn't have got passed. http://capitolcityproject.com/pelosi-500000-secured-coverage-through-obamacare-marketplace-after-numbers-show-far-less/

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 6:13 am

    Paving the road to serfdom. And the useful idiots are pushing the steamroller.

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 6:52 am

    You asked "what is it with the aca law that they are afraid of?" More 1 million Californian's have had their private insurance cancelled. Have you ever heard the saying, "do no harm"? http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/calif-insurance-commissioner-more-than-1m-californians-having-insurance-cancelled-due-to-obamacare/

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 6:55 am

    More destruction caused by leftism. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/another-u-city-mulls-bankruptcy-due-soaring-wages-053744095--sector.html

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  • T-RayNovember 13, 2013 - 7:20 am

    The published figure on the economic loss due to the shutdown is $24B. This sounds quite high to me. Economic activity postponed is not economic activity lost. All the government workers got their back pay. There is a loss due to the time value of the money (interest) but this is a mere fraction of the postponed expenditures. The true losers were the restaurants and other businesses near federal buildings and parks. Unfortunately, Obama made the closures more painful by his unnecessary blockading of the monuments, parks, and associated private businesses. Why is it that no one is asking how much overall Obamacare is costing? I suspect that the real losses during the shutdown are a fraction of the losses we face with Obamacare. We already know that they have spent $600M on a website that doesn't work. We already know that millions are losing their insurance plans. We already know that millions more are seeing increases. We already know that our taxes are going up as a result of Obamacare.

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 7:23 am

    Some ocommycare ads aimed at the double digit IQ leftist base. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/93968-thanks-obamacare-tapping-beer-fund/

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 7:30 am

    T-Ray, the resident communist in the senate is Bernie Sanders. He is a committed leftist/socialist/progressive/communist. He has a progressive budget proposal that he promotes to people who define freedom and not having to provide for themselves. There are some interesting graphs that show the amazing jump in wealth redistribution since obama, the problem with them is they have all gone in the opposite direction the useless idiots were led to believe they would when they voted for hope and change. http://www.sanders.senate.gov/budget/

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  • 1036-FrankNovember 13, 2013 - 7:48 am

    Liberals are desperate to try to change the subject from their complete collapse and nationwide anger with anything they can come up with like "missed weddings" and changed vacation plans, they thought they were on a roll with their shutdown antics and blame game, which will be back soon as no budget has been passed in five years, and their "projected" invented possible "losses." Might have worked with a dumbed down populace and liberal cover media if one of the biggest lies in history wasn't unleashed and couldn't be hidden and impacts are still unfolding that will directly impact and take away millions of citizens basic security, their health insurance. Including those in cancer treatment. Talk about causing harm to millions directly. Let the liberals be judged on what they have done and let them be swept out with the next election which will determine how much people like to be lied to.

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  • James E.November 13, 2013 - 8:09 am

    Well. I see that everyone loves the president. Normal for El Dorado County, the West Virginia of the West.

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 13, 2013 - 8:18 am

    James...Ya don't have to live in Eldorado Co. or West Virgina.... Dislike for our President is a craz that's sweeping the nation...Today it's reported that Obama's approval rating is now officially lower than the crack-smoking mayor of Toronto....

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  • James E.November 13, 2013 - 8:54 am

    R.j., why did you go lower case on your second initial? You solution is love it or leave it. I've heard that for 60 plus years. The saying is more properly love it or change it. And, as for the president low rating, he's not running for reelection so his rating can go as low as that of Congress and it means nothing. Congress wouldn't support his programs if his rating was 95%. So his rating, high or low, is meaningless. Meanwhile, Phil is fixated on Gettysburg. Phil, this will pass and you can then find something new to go bat s#hit crazy over. Life continues in El Dorado County.

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  • ughNovember 13, 2013 - 9:00 am

    I'm still confused on how Obama is our president in the first place. Thank God he's almost out of there. There's going to be a lot of clean up for the next. I want my freedom back!!!

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  • James E.November 13, 2013 - 9:06 am

    ugh, I'm sure Hillary will return your freedom.

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 13, 2013 - 9:12 am

    James...The reason for my lower case j is simple, as brilliant as I am, I don't know squat about computers and don't know how to change it...I log on to the MD website through my Facebook account and that's how it is on my FB account can't figure out how to change it there either.....

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  • 1036-FrankNovember 13, 2013 - 9:36 am

    He is President because of a sad concept embraced by low intelligence, low information voters of how much free, free, free, he promised that he would take from others and give to those who voted for him. The evidence is on the doubling of those on welfare, the near 100 million gone from the workplace, and the soon to collapse SSI/SSDI program. He was also the most covered-up uninvestigated candidate in the history of the Republic. Maybe after he leaves, they can finally reveal his hidden records. The great challenge ahead, starting in 2014, will be reversing everything Bummer and his gang did.

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  • rodNovember 13, 2013 - 10:10 am

    Paul Freeman, I'll be blunt, you're a... liar... You knowingly list the above Republicans who clearly voted to fully fund government EXCEPT for obamacare. It was the Democrat leadership that decided to shut down government and blame the Republicans. Oops, THERE IT IS. Congratulations, you have joined the ranks of obamabots as an unrestrained... public liar. And that makes you a looser, wake up, obamacare is crashing all by itself.

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  • Dink LaneNovember 13, 2013 - 10:28 am

    You're right "rod".... They would fund the government "IF" and only if, the Senate & President would IGNORE a law Passed, the Supreme Court's said it was legal.... and the public said they wanted it with an election............ See, 'rod', those Congressmen don't care about what's legal (When did a Tea-Partier know more about the law than SCOTUS?)..... These GOPers are fighting FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES...... everything they are trying to do is to let Insurance Companies cheat people of something they are paying for... Any you approve of that?

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  • Dink LaneNovember 13, 2013 - 10:30 am

    Correction *** "And" you approve of that?

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  • James E.November 13, 2013 - 10:19 am

    Rod, that would be loser, not looser.

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  • down with LibsNovember 13, 2013 - 10:22 am

    Proof positive that it takes one to know one..

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  • rodNovember 13, 2013 - 10:23 am

    James, correction noted, thanks... bbbbut no argument?

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  • James E.November 13, 2013 - 10:30 am

    Rod, no reflection on you, but I often see looser in various comments. As for argument, I get tired of the same old back and forth. Can one even imagine arguing with Cookie?

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  • MartinNovember 13, 2013 - 3:01 pm

    How can you argue with someone that is right 99% of the time? Congress was shut down because the demo idiots thought it was best to implement a program that they knew was flawed. All that c—p about the republicans shutting it down and not following the law is bull also; Obama decided that the law didn’t mean anything when he gave waivers to all his donors, all we were trying to do is make it impartial but I forgot you think it is ok for a president to lie and deceive the nation for their own good.

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  • cookie65November 13, 2013 - 4:31 pm

    These individuals voted for obama nearly 100%, twice. Stupid should hurt. http://campusreform.org/?ID=5235

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  • rodNovember 13, 2013 - 4:41 pm

    Dink, U need to wake up too. Who Shut Down the Government? There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going -- except for ObamaCare. This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record. As for the House of Representatives' right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States . All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that Congressmen there have a right to decide whether or not they want to spend money on a particular government activity. Whether ObamaCare is good, bad or indifferent is a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that members of the House of Representatives have a right to make spending decisions based on their opinion. ObamaCare is indeed "the law of the land," as its supporters keep saying, and the Supreme Court has upheld its Constitutionality. But the whole point of having a division of powers within the federal government is that each branch can decide independently what it wants to do or not do, regardless of what the other branches do, when exercising the powers specifically granted to that branch by the Constitution... By Thomas Sowell, October 4, 2013

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  • cookie65November 14, 2013 - 8:55 am

    "We have to pass it to find out what is in it", sounds like a bowel movement.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 14, 2013 - 9:24 am

    Cookie nominates Pelosi "Scat Inspection Czar" ~~~ BREAKING: Senate confirms Pelosi "Scat Inspection Czar" ~~~ thanks a lot, Kookie!

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 14, 2013 - 9:01 am

    Cookie...lololololol Okay you brought the anger--by making me laugh. The trolls are annoying this morning...seems if they had their way..we would all just be at the latest fundraiser--drunk on wine. Maybe its not kool aide--maybe its wine.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 14, 2013 - 9:02 am

    brought--should be broke...lololol...wheres that dragon program?

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  • cookie65November 14, 2013 - 1:20 pm

    Jeffery Scott, do you actually believe that 49 million (49,000,000) people in this country aren't capable of putting food on their table without someone else paying for it? If that is true how do those who get stuck with the bill manage to put food on their table?

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  • cookie65November 14, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    Jeffery Scott, the numbers are dwindling. The number of people paying for government, the overbloated public sector, those unwilling to work, those who cannot provide for themselves, those who won't provide for themselves, those who are reproducing with no job, those who are receiving free healthcare, free housing, free phones, free food, free everything. It isn't opinion, it is fact. How much can the private sector taxpayer afford? Especially when they are less and less able to afford their own needs.

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  • cookie65November 14, 2013 - 6:14 pm

    Jeffery Scott, this is what is happening to those "dwindling" numbers. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/wh-predicts-taxes-will-hit-record-3t-fy14-29673-full-time-worker

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