Wednesday, April 16, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

Guns and Obamacare

EDITOR: At some point, Alice tells the Mad Hatter: “We’re all mad here.” She must have been at a Tea Party meeting. The right needs to explain the logic behind their belief that a gun in every hand will make us safe, but health insurance for all will kill us. Or do they operate in Humpty Dumpty’s world of “illogical” logic: “A word means exactly what I say it means, no more and no less?”

JOHN GARON
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  • wooleeacreOctober 22, 2013 - 3:53 pm

    At John Garon, I do not see how they are related? One is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution ..a guarantee. Health insurance is a policy designed to get your money, to make money on our money, all for the purpose paying for a doctor to help you. So how are they related??

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  • VernOctober 23, 2013 - 1:21 am

    Johns not always right, but, hes never wrong. So if something John says can be illogical about something logical, that makes it illogical logical! Makes perfectly good sense to me...

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  • Dink LaneOctober 22, 2013 - 4:21 pm

    Wooleeacre: A "fallacy" is an argument that uses poor reasoning..... Your fallacy fails to prove the conclusion by assuming the conclusion in the proof...... jumping from Health Insurance to "get your money" .... is a leap too far...

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  • Dee#1October 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm

    Garon, your letter makes no sense. Please try again.

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  • VernOctober 23, 2013 - 2:04 am

    Let me help you Dee Dee: "Illogical Logic" is a mega clash of two perspectives formatting the inadequate line of a presumably what has trefiled the bleakish grotesque difference. What is illogical logic, it is a supreme clash of two perspectives formatting the inadequate line of a presumably what has trailed the bleakish grotesque difference. Basicly it is simply logic so logical that it's illogically logical, which is just so damn logical it’s logically illogic. To put it simply, it defines the rules of two perspectives. For instance is an el logical conservative tea party becoming the gun control party of logic? You have to admit, it makes sense! With the rules of illogical logic, what has defined it will turn its meaning into an elaborate clash of two meanings!

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 22, 2013 - 7:11 pm

    I think Gar-roon got into his medicine bag again and didn't read the warnings about a handful when he sobers up he should return to the Bay. He wants to keep waving the red meat and have people cure his boredom and irrelevance not to mention his anger in living in an area with a large GOP majority. He should be reassured he is irrelevant, will continue to be, as will his partner, Wrong-hoffer his defender.

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  • VernOctober 23, 2013 - 3:06 am

    Frank, not to say you’re not a good man for you very well may be. But my best guess is your just a poorly educated relocated redneck, President Obama hating, welfare queen mems, English as the only language crap, Obama's stealing my guns, Obama care wont work and it kills babies, etc. kind of guy. Completely unaware the only guns taken have been from criminals? That the English only boat has sailed long ago, that there are more white people on welfare, that it’s the Republicans trying to end SS and Medicare and computer glitz’s are a fact of modern life not to mention Obama-care is really an Republican health care idea called, “the affordable health care act. None of the complaints you’ve logged over the months are even based remotely in fact. It is disheartening to see how many people like you actually believe and spread the anti-Obama crap and we know it is primarily for one reason, don’t we Frank?

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 7:13 pm

    Dee, didn't Alice go down the rabbit hole where she found a world not based in reality. Did the Tea Party fall down the rabbit hole?

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 7:15 pm

    Frank, do you own EDC? Can you really tell Mr. Garon to return to the bay and get out of your county?

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 7:19 pm

    Frank, Gar-roon and Wrong-hoffer? You raise the quality of debate to the highest levels. You must be proud.

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  • R J CarterOctober 22, 2013 - 7:50 pm

    Let me get this straight......Obamacare has been established as law so all the wacko-liberals like Garon say "Oh it's law now you can't stop it now"....Yet, when it comes to a the 2nd Amendment which under the law is also is a constitutional right, the left has no problem trying everything to do away with it??.....Hey Garon, take your pill cup and turn on MSNBC, you'll feel better.... .

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  • MorrisOctober 23, 2013 - 3:27 am

    Uhhhh...Vern....hope it's understood that its illogical to expect that the majority of TMD's audience will either get (or at least willingly consider) this logic.

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 5:45 am

    (1) A gun in "every hand"? I've not seen such advocacy; people still are free to purchase/own -- or not. (2) Health insurance (not the same as health "care") is being rammed down our throats over the barrel of the I.R.S. (3) For many this is a real "guns or butter" choice. The True Cost of Health Care - HERE.

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 6:32 am

    Not that it matters, but the NY Times reports that Healthcare.gov contains 500 million lines of code. Allegedly this is two times larger than Facebook, Windows, and OS X combined. Someone jump in and fix it. QUICK.

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  • Jerry BlighOctober 28, 2013 - 8:42 pm

    Evelyn, Argue about stuff you know. LOC you don't know. And you're not offering useful or correct information. LOC is not a measure of anything concrete and differs widely among programming languages, styles, etc.

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 9:27 pm

    Jerry: You could not possibly be more correct. What I know about LOC is calculable only in negative numbers. HERE is the article I had seen. I'd be delighted if you would read it and comment.

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 6:48 am

    You have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding any communication or data transmitting or stored on this information system. . . . "Healthcare.gov obtained information includes place of residence, social security number, bank account numbers, other financial information, medical history, place of employment, earnings, immigration status, military background, criminal record if any, phone numbers and email addresses." - HERE (Is this really the "American Way"?)

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  • VernOctober 28, 2013 - 8:51 pm

    They already have this information, whats the big deal?

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  • EvelynOctober 30, 2013 - 9:28 am

    No big deal, Vern. SECURITY HOLE FOUND IN OBAMACARE WEBSITE - HERE: Until the Department of Health fixed the security hole last week, anyone could easily reset your Healthcare.gov password without your knowledge and potentially hijack your account. The glitch was discovered last week by Ben Simo, a software tester in Arizona.

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  • cookie65October 28, 2013 - 8:47 am

    The crayon king provides us with a favorite tactic of the useless idiots. The blinding glare coming from every failed utopian formula makes in necessary for them to focus the blame elsewhere. Enter the STRAWMAN. The left is more dependent on strawman arguments than they are on capitalism to fund their insanity. It consists of the simplest of recipes, invent an absurd position, assign the invented position to your opposition, accuse the opposition of supporting the absurd invented position and feed it to the groupthink lemmings. It is as typical as Vern accusing Frank of being a racists in his reply to him. No one is more obsessed with skin color than the left.

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 28, 2013 - 9:54 am

    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" -- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Obamacare? All have insurance? It's costing me a double increase in my premium as well as a higher deductible, co-pays and medicines. I can't carry the ever growing weight of the "less fortunate" on my shoulders. Anyways, aren't all availed healthcare currently? Why replace a whole wheel when only a spoke needs to be fixed? "The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." ------Margaret Thatcher

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  • cookie65October 28, 2013 - 10:05 am

    Years ago I discovered a song that the lyrics of are almost magical for the depressed, disillusioned, disappointed leftist who is struggling with the reality of their ideology. The need to become a free thinking individual may someday overwhelm you and you won't know how to deal with it. This song may help you to know how to address what you are feeling when that day comes. It is from REO Speedwagon (named after a 1917 fire truck) the name of the song is Time For Me To Fly. I included the version with lyrics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfY57Yl5tPk

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 28, 2013 - 10:16 am

    LINK - Time For Me To Fly

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  • cookie65October 28, 2013 - 10:24 am

    Phil, I posted this on fencepost one time with a similar explanation and thread took on a life of its own. There where several hundred comments and various "up yours". I still laugh out LOUD about it.

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  • R J CarterOctober 28, 2013 - 10:21 am

    If your in the mood for another feel good song just highlight and open this link..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8C7i9kdEf8

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 28, 2013 - 10:31 am

    LINK - The Star Spangled Banner ~~~ R J that's pretty good - but just a little too "glitzy" for old dogs like me.

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  • cookie65October 28, 2013 - 10:34 am

    RJ, compare your video to this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJgWMI0hch8

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  • Dink LaneOctober 28, 2013 - 10:54 am

    7,730 children admitted to U.S Hospitals this year alone..... 8 out 10 were caused by handguns....... children gun deaths UP 60%............... REALLY America?

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 11:57 am

    Dink: These figures look a bit odd. 7,730 children admitted to hospital = about 25/day all across the entire U.S. Could you please source your info. so that we can see what you're talking about.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 28, 2013 - 4:48 pm

    Evelyn: Google -- "study that was presented Sunday at the American Academy of Pediatrics National Conference and Exhibition in Orlando, Fla."

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  • CarolynNovember 02, 2013 - 1:51 pm

    Site please...

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  • CarolynNovember 02, 2013 - 1:54 pm

    Site your source please..

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  • cookie65October 28, 2013 - 11:00 am

    Dink, how many of those "8 of 10" are from places with the most restrictive gun control laws?

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  • cookie65October 28, 2013 - 11:05 am

    Let me put it another way for you dink, how many of those kid's hospitalized do to guns are for areas run by leftists? Maybe the real danger for the kids is the leftists since that seems to be the unique constant. As the left always reminds us the conservative red areas are loaded with guns (no pun intended) but they don't have near the number of child involved shootings. BAN leftism.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 28, 2013 - 4:55 pm

    Cookie -- I am SURE every single parent of these -- victims from guns -- has as many excuses as you do about why it HAS to be someone else's fault.... It's NEVER the idiot who bought the gun.... or the idiot who left the gun lying around...... One thing about STUPID... it's spanned across all colors, creeds, or party affiliations....

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  • BOYCOT THIS MORONOctober 28, 2013 - 11:10 am

    BOYCOT THIS MORON. writing NOTHING in this comment column will send the message. Garon Letters headlined to create maximum response, with least intellectual substance. Why do we get suckered into commenting on GARBAGE?

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  • VernOctober 28, 2013 - 8:39 pm

    Moron, are you saying the Republican Central Committee wants to Boycott John Garon?

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  • DavidOctober 28, 2013 - 11:12 am

    Thank you John Garon. You give me hope. Here in El Dorado County sometimes it's hard to have hope. With you around I don't feel everyone is quite so insane!

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  • James E.October 28, 2013 - 11:15 am

    Cookie, your comment seems to indicate that you have the stats on each state for children involved shootings (red areas are loaded with guns, but they don't have near the number of child involved shootings). So, what are the number of child involved shootings per state (red, blue, and purple states) to reach your conclusion that red states don't have near the number of child involved shootings?

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  • James E.October 28, 2013 - 11:39 am

    Mr. Moron, your comment about John Garon leads me to send this advice to Mr. Garon: Matthew 7:6, "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." On the other hand, if you don't mind casting your pearls before swine, keep up your good work on educating Mr. Moron and others of the Tea/Republican irrational philosophy.

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  • cookie65October 28, 2013 - 4:17 pm

    Phil, Ohio State Marching Band, Watch in full screen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNe0ZUD19EE

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 28, 2013 - 10:46 pm

    Cookie, GREAT clip!

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 5:09 pm

    Dink: Thank you. I found it. Not to dismiss the seriousness of any childhood (or other) gun-related death or injury, but THIS 2001 article shows far more children dying annually from vaccinations (promoted, and often REQUIRED, by the government). Specifically, Another study found that 3,000 children die within 4 days of vaccination each year in the US..

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  • James E.October 28, 2013 - 5:16 pm

    Evelyn, I'm a kid at heart so perhaps I should forgo my flu shot? Three thousand children within four days? That's more than were killed on 9/11 and there is no outcry? And, this happens every year? Could this one be managed by the Tea Party patriots? It would be a real cause for a change instead of wanting their freedom.

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 5:36 pm

    James: Absent an armed "escort" and having the I.R.S. on my back, I would not CONSIDER getting a flu shot. I don't have time now -- gotta run -- but could provide massive literature and personal experience to support my position. OVER MY COLD DEAD BODY.

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  • James E.October 28, 2013 - 5:39 pm

    But Evelyn, I don't want you to get the flu.

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  • Rosco_P_ColtrainOctober 28, 2013 - 6:09 pm

    Eye dunno bout dis hole Obama ASeeA akt or this hole difence of beeing aybel to bye guns. I leyek guns n hav sum. Wut's upsettin to me is thayt I kant bye ammonition fer them. Now onna differin purspektuv, Iffen peeple are gunna shoowt peeple, then peeple schud be aaybel to see a doktor fer there wunds. Thu koste of ammonition wil sune koste moor than a docktor viset.

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 9:35 pm

    THIS is the NY Times article which ends: "According to one specialist, the Web site contains about 500 million lines of software code. By comparison, a large bank’s computer system is typically about one-fifth that size."

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 9:38 pm

    (This was entered as a further reply to Jerry but somehow ended up down here.)

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  • JerryOctober 29, 2013 - 2:40 pm

    Evelyn, The explanation is too long for a comment. But essentially, an amateur nobody web developer, who appears to have little or no enterprise computing experience but has a blog, posts one article speculating on the size of the healthcare codebase, and compares it with other speculations of other code bases, at the same time saying, these might be wrong because they don't include the size of all the open source and other stuff that actually lies under and runs these applications. It's an ignorant blog post with idiotic partial references, posted by a guy with no real experience, abstracted and disassociated from any meaning, and picked up by a non-journalist at the NYTimes, a paper that isn't doing so well under Bill Keller. Why anyone would repeat this is beyond me. Stick with things you understand.

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 5:21 pm

    Jerry: Knowing nothing about LOC, voce sotto I offer up THESE better informed folk. Many agree with you that 500 million lines probably is ridiculous. But pick your preferred number; the system has encountered a “glitch”. Chosen at random, 3 quotes: (1) Have you looked at the site. It's just plain text. It is an embarrassment to look at. All this for millions in tax dollars. What a rip off. It looks like craigslist without the flash. (2) I wouldn't be surprised if that 500M number includes a lot of existing code from both federal and state level departments that feeds into the central system. (3) Have you seen the size of the documents that just describe the laws? They are 13,000 pages. Many of those laws need to be interpreted in code somehow, I could see how the code size could be ridiculous.

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  • cookie65October 29, 2013 - 6:33 am

    Numbers as high as 10 million are being tossed around for those who will have their private insurance cancelled. Some are saying 80% of the 14 million individual policies will be cancelled. I am curious to see how the left gives obama a pass for lying to the American people every time he opened his mouth. And they will because the redistribution of wealth is their single minded motive and they have sold their souls for it. http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/29/21222195-obama-administration-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 29, 2013 - 8:27 pm

    Evelyn, our family are victims of BO and Co's lies. When all the dust settles, my spouse will lose his insurance at the end of 2012. I am now stuck with looking at 4 options: Platinum, Gold, Silver or Bronze. All of which, at the weakest formula, will double our costs and increase our out of pockets. Thanks to all the idealistic libs and their bully leader, we are screwed. I so do not understand how James L or Garon keep protecting and idolizing dumb and dumbers.

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  • Dee#1October 29, 2013 - 9:33 pm

    Marcia, James and Garon are true believers that only they and the Administration know what you need. And they fear and resent anyone who can think for themselves.

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  • cookie65October 29, 2013 - 6:45 am

    Difference Between leftists and Conservatives. A leftist and a Conservative were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Conservative gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person. The leftist was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Conservative's pocket and gave the homeless person fifty dollars. Now you understand the difference between leftists and Conservatives.

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  • cookie65October 29, 2013 - 6:59 am

    Barack Obama meets with HM The Queen. He asked her, "Your Majesty, how do you run such an efficient government? Is there any advice you can give to me?" "Well," said the Queen, "the most important thing is to surround yourself with intelligent people." Obama frowned, and then asked, "But how do I know the people around me are really intelligent?" The Queen took a sip of tea. "Oh, that's easy; you just ask them to prove their intelligence by answering a riddle." The Queen pushed a button on her intercom. "Please find Tony Blair and send him here, would you?" After a little while Tony Blair walked into the room and said, "Yes, Your Majesty?" The Queen smiled and said, "Answer me this please Tony, your mother and father have a child. It's not your brother and it's not your sister. Who is it?" Without pausing for a moment, Tony Blair answered, "That would be me." "Yes! Very good," said the Queen. When Obama went back home he asked Joe Biden, his vice president, the same question. "Joe, answer this for me. Your mother and your father have a child. It's not your brother and it's not your sister. Who is it?" "I'm not sure," said Biden "Let me get back to you on that one...." He went to his advisors and asked every one, but none could give him an answer. Finally, he ran into Sarah Palin in a restaurant one evening. Biden asked, "Sarah, can you answer this for me? Your mother and father have a child and it's not your brother or your sister. Who is it?" Sarah Palin answered back immediately, "That's easy, it's me!" Biden smiled, and said, Gee thanks, Sarah!" Then, he went back to speak with Obama. "Say, I did some research and I have the answer to that riddle. It's Sarah Palin!" Obama got up, stomped over to Biden, and angrily yelled into his face, "No! You stupid idiot, don't you know anything? It's Tony Blair.'

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  • cookie65October 29, 2013 - 7:04 am

    Leftism is mandated thru force because no thinking person would submit to it of their own free will.

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  • cookie65October 29, 2013 - 7:11 am

    Hey dink, I found a video that will give you nightmares. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVgT0AqvqR4

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  • cookie65October 29, 2013 - 7:28 am

    The useful idiots are catching on. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/90618-read-email-ex-boss-former-dem-staffer-lost-job-due-obamacare/

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 8:26 am

    Cookie, imaginary conversations?? The Queen? The Queen doesn't do imaginary conversations.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 8:39 am

    A strawman imaginary conversation to show how dumb the VP is -- sorry, it's a no go, except for those who believe in imaginary conversations.

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  • Sean O'SullivanOctober 29, 2013 - 9:13 am

    The reason is simple: Guns are good. John Garon is bad. I have to save a bullet for myself if John Garon was running the place. Garon logic: You have too much, so I take away and give to those who lead irresponsible lives and continually make poor decisions.

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 9:18 am

    About that bullet of yours: "Last U.S. Lead Smelter to Close in December Due to EPA – Might Affect Ammo Production" - HERE

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  • Little RickyOctober 29, 2013 - 9:51 am

    JOHN, Put a sign in front of your house that states I have No Guns in this Home. The go use your Obamacrap...

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  • Little RickyOctober 29, 2013 - 9:52 am

    Sit Jimmy... Woof

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 6:45 pm

    Here's a shortcut browse & enjoy ~~~ LINK - Data.HealthCare.gov

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 7:10 pm

    Nice. HERE you can apply to be a Certified Application Counselor.

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 7:12 pm

    . . . HERE is that Pledge Form you've been looking for.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 7:18 pm

    I have just signed you up under my "Organization Name" of MightyFine.com

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 7:19 pm

    Help!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 7:21 pm

    You do know that I own the domain name "mightyfine.com"? I sense an opportunity. "Mighty Fine Health Care" seems friendly enough. Certainly it's a step up from "Affordable . . . yada, yada"

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 7:23 pm

    Now I understand about "Guns and Obamacare" -- get me a gun!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 7:14 pm

    " Certified Application Counselor (CAC) Form" There is just something off-putting about "CAC".

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 7:18 pm

    The resident fundi must stop by and explain about the Obamacare CAC, Pledge Form, and the like. What the heck are people meant to pledge?

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 7:30 pm

    Did you know that using the word "Obamacare" more than 3 times in one day will get you on the NSA watchlist? (Blimey, please verify)

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  • Dee#1October 29, 2013 - 8:02 pm

    Evelyn,tell me you are kidding! Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare. That should put I. Front the of the line for the FEMA camps.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 8:07 pm

    Dee, I'd like to be your "navigator" ~~~ Obamacare, Obamacare, ObamacareObamacare, Obamacare, ObamacareObamacare, Obamacare, ObamacareObamacare, Obamacare, ObamacareObamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 8:12 pm

    Dee#1: "They" say THAT word must be used more than three times in one day. You're still OK. Phil, however . . . . . . . . .

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  • Dee#1October 29, 2013 - 9:15 pm

    Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamcare. Does that make it? Phil you can be my navigator.

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  • Little RickyOctober 29, 2013 - 9:12 pm

    Gavin Newsom, Lieutenant Governor of California, will chair a blue ribbon committee tasked with studying marijuana legalization in the state. This was announced at a joint press conference Thursday with the ACLU of California. Gavin Newsom The panel will “engage in a multi-year research effort to help voters and policy makers as they consider proposals to enact a strict tax and regulation scheme that will enable California to benefit from billions of dollars of potential revenue annually while protecting the health and safety of our children and communities.” Joining Newsom on the panel will be “leading legal, academic and policy experts from across the state and nation.” The ACLU also released new polling data which revealed that 65% of Californians support legalizing and regulating marijuana, while only 32% were opposed and 3% undecided. You can view the full poll results here. “This development is just a further illustration of how the debate over marijuana legalization has moved from the fringe into the mainstream,” stated NORML Communications Director Erik Altieri. “An overwhelming majority of Californians are ready to legalize and regulate marijuana and it is encouraging to see key figures within the state move to address the issue in a forward thinking and serious manner. With a voter initiative likely in 2016, this new survey data also confirms that the people of California are ready to move forward to end their state’s marijuana prohibition, with or without state legislators.” NORML will keep you updated as this effort moves forward.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 9:45 pm

    Ms. Kernan, we will need more information. Why is your husband losing his health coverage at the end of 2012? Do you mean the end of 2013, and why is he losing same? Please let us also know what you are paying for your current health plan and its deductible and maximum and co-pay. Now, list each of the future options (platinum, gold, silver, and bronze) with the coverage above or below your current plan and the deductible and maximum and co-pay and cost for each of the various plans. Then your annual income and whether you qualify for any financial assistance from the government on any of the plans. This information will allow us to determine if you are in fact being hurt by the ACA. or just playing the Tea/Republican ACA game we see so much on this site.

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 10:12 pm

    James: A married couple I know have been notified that they will be paying significantly more for their existing plan (I did not ask for details) from the beginning of next year. Their son (separately insured) is being dropped altogether by his insurer in January. These stories, like Marcia Kernan's, are not uncommon. Many people are being badly hit.

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 10:22 pm

    NBC News - "Obama administration knew millions could not keep their health insurance" - HERE: [M]illions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, say experts, and the Obama administration has known that for at least three years.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 30, 2013 - 10:27 am

    Evelyn....The BEGINNING of that NBC report ......... Eighty (80) percent of the people get HC through their employers.... (replay it... it's the very first line)....... OF the twenty (20) percent WHO buy individual plans (Something I could NOT do when I was laid off from AT&T in 1983.... Group plans ONLY).... 40% percent of that 20%...... Wouldn't that be close to HALF of the 20% = 10%? ..... Of those 10% they have individual plans...... they were NOT LEGAL (that's about 1M policies)..... covered ONLY Catastrophic......NO Dr. appt, NO drugs, NO preventative..... (My tightwad son had one.)...... YES, it went UP to 0.0036% of his monthly income...... Considering 26% of my SS check goes to Medicare.... He AGREES he can afford it... It's not affecting his lifestyle..... Now Evelyn.... What is the Republican Plan?..... OH yes -- To put MEDICARE ON THE SAME INSURANCE EXCHANGE ...... the very exchange Republicans are complaining about RIGHT NOW...

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 31, 2013 - 12:33 pm

    Yes, 2013 is correct. It's because of a Ca sponsored policy for pre-existing conditions. It is going away now (end of 2013) with this new format brought on by "low information" specialists. I didn't and still don't like what I have as policies and I certainly struggle to pay $825/mth. currently. Now, my weakest choice, as mentioned before, will give me less for more cost. Furthermore, we don't qualify for any reductions. You see, with the liberals believing they are poor and conservs are the rich ones, we, the little people who make a living on our own, have no pensions/entitlements be it through the gov't or private, are more than ever being forced to act as if we have a lot of money so we can continue to support the aforementioned. Eventually, we dry up, go away simply because we can no longer continue to be the proverbial well. Last year alone, our insurance costs for liability, life, etc went up 3K simply because law suits (most of them frivolous) and age, make that happen. Do a few make too much money? You bet. Do the "underlings" continue to ask and get pay raises/greater pensions/whatever? You bet. Money has to come from some place. Here we, the small business owner, comes in yet again. While Obama beats his chest, our monthly nut for medicals will go up a minimum of 800/mth with a lot more out of pocket. Who is he really serving? If you contend that the insurance companies are doubling our costs under the "requirements brought gov't regulations" as they say, why isn't the government seeing this and beating them up? Please accept the fact that this is the crap that's coming down and we, the little people (not right wing lunatics), who didn't want this to begin with because we had enough wisdom and foresight to see how this would happen, are now suffering....like 3rd world people. I feel suppressed for the first time in my life as an American. Let it be known that I fully dislike Obama because this is his "baby", he's a Colonialist with an idealistic mindset, he's a closet Muslim masquerading as a Christian (another bone of contention with me), and he's out to destroy America as we know it.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 9:46 pm

    Dee, I fear you. Be gentle with me.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 9:52 pm

    Dee, I'm not sure what you need, but if your concern is the ACA, then have Senator Cruz (the Tea/Republican Jesus Christ/George Washington) get the law repealed. You will be happy, and I'll be happy you are happy.

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  • Dee#1October 29, 2013 - 10:19 pm

    James, you are really cute. I am not sure why you are concerned about me being happy but rest assured I am happy. Happiness comes from within not by the actions of others. And it is not me you and Garon fear, it is the conservative movement of limited government, individual responsiblity, minimal regulation and maximum individual freedom you fear. But I have no idea why. Leftist have one-party rule in California and will soon have one party rule in the Nation. As far as Senator Ted Cruz is concern, I consider him a hero but find it blasphemy to call him the Second Coming of Christ. I prefer to call him Supreme Court Justice Cruz. My preference for President is Governor Scott Walker or Governor Bobby Jindal. Good night James, sweet dreams.

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 30, 2013 - 11:25 am

    Dee, I so agree with you. Scott Walker or Jindahl would be good candidates. I, too, thought that finally, someone (aka Sen Ted Cruz) had the guts to tell the truth as truth usually hurts.....big time. He is my hero as well. When will the liberal idealists understand that kicking the proverbial can down the road does nothing but create a bigger headache to deal with ..... at a later time? It is my belief that the current politicians (excluding the 18 "ballsie" Reps who rightfully fought long and hard to stop the bleeding NOW) are hoping they'll be retired before our country has no choice but to face truth as it is....WE ARE SPENDING MORE THAN WE ARE TAKING IN AND THE WELLS ARE GETTING FEWER AND DRYER.

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  • EvelynOctober 29, 2013 - 10:30 pm

    For those who ARE better off under ACA (other than having lost their freedom to choose) -- congratulations. But please believe those whose own experience differs.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 10:38 pm

    Dee, I am going to assume you mean cute as in being overly clever rather than actual physical cuteness. Of course, once in Monterey, in 1961, restaurant staff mistook for for a movie star. I did get an excellent table. Ah, 1961, 24 years old and kinda cute at that age. I had hair then and weighed 155 pounds. Dee, Mr. Garon and myself do not fear you or the conservative movement -- a movement that will fight itself to death over which direction to go -- Tea Party or responsible conservatives. Something about a house divided.

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  • Little RickyNovember 01, 2013 - 11:03 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUegnuIDPcY

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 10:41 pm

    Evelyn, what could he have been thinking -- that people could keep their own plan and doctor? Inexplicable.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 10:47 pm

    He was thinking turkey for Thanksgiving?

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 30, 2013 - 11:48 am

    Don't know. But what I do know is I've lost all my abilities to choose and I am staring at 4 pathetic policies due Jan 1. Does not bode well for Democracy. Kind of sorry so many gave up their lives for not.....if this government bullying mindset continues. Obama is succeeding in his Colonialistic idealism and the puppets surrounding him fall into place routinely and salivate while panting. Sit doggies.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 10:44 pm

    1961, a dashing young lieutenant Army aviator. Full head of hair, 155 pounds, loving wife and a new baby daughter. The good old days.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 10:46 pm

    OK, back to Netflix. Tomorrow all, have a good night.

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  • Dee#1October 29, 2013 - 10:54 pm

    James, cute as in a ten year old boy. And that is a compliment, they can always make me smile. However, you and Garon do fear the Conservative movement or you would not be fixated on it. One does not worry about that which is powerless, one worries about that which can make a difference which affects them personally. Conservatives have no power and are embraced in a fight with Republican elites, as well as Leftist power brokers. Yet you and Garon continue wail against the Tea Party. That just show fear. Again, last time , good night and sweet dreams.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 8:51 am

    Dee, we have this conversation every few days. I cannot speak for Mr. Garon, but for me it's not fear but rather contempt for the Tea Party. A group willing to force the U.S. into default with zero concern for the impact it would have on our, and the world's, economy -- merely to feed their delusion that they are major players. I do understand your defense mechanism that the liberals fear us -- after all, what else do you have? And, everyday the demographics of the U.S. shift further and further to continuing Democratic control, while the Tea/Republicans do everything they can do to alienate the voting blocks of African Americans, Latinos, Asians, Women, Poor, and Senior Citizens. So, yes, contempt for a group that acts like petulant pre-teens striking out at the big bad world taking away their "freedom." Hmmm, just like real pre-teens.

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  • Dee#1October 30, 2013 - 10:31 am

    Sorry James, it just doesn't fly. Anytime a person has to declare a group enemies of the state which must be terminated shows fear of the group not contempt. As far as you being Liberal, you are not. Definition of classical liberalism .-----------Classical liberalism is a political and economic philosophy, originally founded on the Enlightenment tradition, that tries to circumscribe the limits of political power and to define and support individual rights.---------You are a Leftist, an advocate of government control and minimum individual rights, not to mention redistribution of wealth.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 30, 2013 - 10:32 am

    ONE MORE THING -- Evelyn..... My Son got his KAISER CANCELLATION letter last month..... and the insurance he has will continue UNTIL Dec 31.... On Jan 1, his NEW LEGAL coverage will start......

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  • EvelynOctober 30, 2013 - 10:42 am

    Thank you, Dink. Hopefully by this time next year the dust will have settled and we'll have a more comprehensive understanding.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 11:18 am

    Oh Dee, it does fly. Got clearance from the tower, started my roll, achieved take off speed, pulled back and off into the wild blue yonder. The Tea Party is nothing more than pre-teens demanding their freedom (which apparently has been taken away from them by the Marxist, Kenya born, Socialist/Communist African America excessive golfer never should have been elected twice in the White House). Dee, drop this group and become a responsible Republican.

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  • MorrisOctober 30, 2013 - 11:27 am

    Good thing that list didn't include .....'gay Jewish PHD with a limp.'....as well. One can almost hear the audible gasp and clutching of pearls.

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 30, 2013 - 11:51 am

    Hey! Whatever happened to the half-white side? Mulatto-American, I believe, is the term; not African-American.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 12:24 pm

    Ms. Kernan, let me ask again. Give us the details of your health insurance problems, so we can all understand whether you have a problem or are just giving us the BS Tea/Republican talking point.

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  • Little RickyOctober 30, 2013 - 12:28 pm

    Sit Jimmy Woof Boy...

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 30, 2013 - 2:21 pm

    Easy. I called Scanavino and had them help me just in case I was reading things wrong. Given our income, 2 person household and not yet 65, of the four options (via CoveredCa.org), our cheapest offer runs 1500+ for a 1K more deductible than what we currently have, a 60+ co-pay/visit that we currently don't have, and our meds will go up across the board as well. This is with their "cheapest" and lowest offer. We can climb from there to about 2100/mth for the Platinum. To break even, tit for tat, we would be looking at the Gold level which, for us, is around 2K/mth. We currently pay out roughly 800. Does this help you better understand why I am so angry at the moment especially given I have no choice, like a third world?

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 12:26 pm

    Ms. Kernan, real Americans call him an African American. Less than real Americans call him a Mulatto -- a term right out of the Civil War South. Hey, I enjoyed using that real American thing which the Tea/Republicans love.

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  • EvelynOctober 30, 2013 - 1:04 pm

    I was shocked upon returning to the U.S. after having lived abroad for 32 years to discover that Americans had all been compartmentalized by ethnicity, etc. A zillion official forms REQUIRE us to describe ourselves by bloodline. Why, for goodness sakes, can we not be AMERICANS?

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 1:11 pm

    Evelyn, I'll second that. We are all Americans and that is our strength. If you don't mind, tell us where you lived overseas. I've lived in England, Germany, Egypt, Vietnam, and Georgia. OK, a little joke -- I enjoyed living in Savannah. France and Spain would be good, but I never lived there -- visits, but no long term residence.

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  • EvelynOctober 30, 2013 - 1:19 pm

    Domiciled in South Africa, but 2 years in Germany (Tübingen).

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  • R J CarterOctober 30, 2013 - 1:19 pm

    James, as I was typing Evelyn posted what I was going to say and stole my thunder....Anyway, the office of President should transcend beyond any hyphenated-American identity...The President is sworn to represent every American of every color.....Do you call yourself a German-American??...Can you recall any other past president that has ever labeled themselves according to the Country their ancestors came from??..Wouldn't it be nice if this president considered him America first and African-American second.....Does he to it because he believes it benefits and best promotes his liberal agenda.......P.S.... I also noticed your doing a lot of posting today and you passed on your daily Home Depot visit, and also that Cookie's noticeable absent....Just a coincidence???....LOL.......

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 2:04 pm

    R.J., believe it or not, I am about to go to Home Depot to buy some paint. My wife painted something a hideous color and now it has to be repainted. Now, the president didn't call himself an African America, I used the term in a list of terms used by my friends in the Tea Party -- and even that was too kind, as Mulatto was soon introduced by a Tea Party type. So, let's recap: It was African American and Mulatto, neither of which the president used. Why doesn't the Tea Party just come clean -- they are the Confederate Party of the South. P.S. Not sure where Cookie might be. She is usually an early AM commenter. Could she be at Home Depot?

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 2:27 pm

    Ms. Kernan, if I understand, you are saying your health insurance will be 2K per month for a total of 24K a year? That cannot be right.

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 30, 2013 - 2:52 pm

    You are absolutely correct.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 2:31 pm

    Ms. Kernan, if you are indeed going to have to pay $24K a year for health insurance, you will be very happy when the Socialist Medicare for All come in and cures the current mess. Evelyn, South Africa -- never made it there.

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 30, 2013 - 3:35 pm

    Yes, my daughter-in-law from Sweden could tell you all about it. Then, she moved and lived in the states for 17 years praising our medical system. You know, visualize the fact that Sweden is the size of the SF peninsula in population. Handling a small amount of anything is a whole lot more doable than the huge country we are in. And we currently see how pathetic and lost the government is when it comes to handling the people (ie website glitches, tax related glitches, etc). Thanks, but no thanks. The only thing I am thankful for is that my grandfathers fought in WWl, my 89 yr father drove lead tanks in Germany in WWll, my brother was stationed in Phom Phen (sp?) for 2 yrs just so we can have our freedoms through our existing democracy. To them and all like them....thank you. I like democracy as it stands....or should I say "stood"? Hope Home Depot was a successful journey.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 2:33 pm

    OK, off to Home Depot. Later.

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  • MorrisOctober 30, 2013 - 4:21 pm

    Seems way too quiet today. Did somebody Baker Act Cookie?? Again. Or maybe Tractor Supply now stocking XXL muzzles?

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 30, 2013 - 4:42 pm

    come join me in nuking the GREG PRADA (Al Vargas on steroids) campaing . . . Dred Prada

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 4:53 pm

    Ms. Kernan, it was successful. Got the exact color of paint I wanted. My home was built in 1906 and I swear it was built out of Home Depot parts. Was I correct in saying you will be paying $24K a year for health insurance? Sure seems a lot. Anyone else paying in this range? If, so, I should have not joined the Army, instead should have gone to work for a health insurance company. If I had risen to Senior Vice President, I'd be now living in retirement on the ocean in Big Sur. Ocean -- I had a professor in college who could not correctly spell ocean. This just a human interest comment about the spelling of ocean.

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 31, 2013 - 10:38 am

    Yes, and had we sued knowing we would have won hands down big time on 4 different occasions, we too would be living debt free and where ever our hearts would take us. But, we didn't because of three reasons: the defendants where friends or school connections, the bible tells us not to sue, and, it would only cost all of us more in insurance premiums. Sadly, we are not the norm and our insurance premiums doubled last year (a 3K/yr increase) and now these new medical premiums are to help cover the costs of those won't buy insurance or will have medical needs way beyond the money they put in.

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  • EvelynOctober 30, 2013 - 5:52 pm

    "NY Docs resisting ObamaCare" - HERE: “This is so poorly designed that a lot of doctors are afraid to participate,” said Dr. Sam Unterricht, president of the 29,000-member organization. “There’s a lot of resistance. Doctors don’t know what they’re going to get paid.” Three out of four doctors who are participating in the program said they “had to participate” because of existing contractual obligations with an insurer or medical provider, not because they wanted to.

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  • EvelynOctober 30, 2013 - 5:58 pm

    "141 reasons why politicians & unions that support Obamacare want exemptions for themselves" - HERE

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  • Dee#1October 30, 2013 - 6:27 pm

    James, drivel.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 6:35 pm

    Dee, basketball is drivel? How about the world series? And, no, I'm not a big sports guy as I have to spend my time trying to keep you politically honest.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 6:38 pm

    Red Socks ahead by 4 runs in bottom of the 4th inning. This update for Dee.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 6:40 pm

    Is drivel Dee's favorite word? Wonder if she hears a lot of drivel at her Tea Party meetings?

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 7:21 pm

    Evelyn, here is my solution for those doctors who don't want to engage in the ACA. Report to Fort Sam Houston immediately for overseas deployment. Minimum service for four years at which point they will again be asked if they would like to engage in civilian ACA -- that should take care of the problem, and Dee calls me an authoritarian? I don't know why.

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  • EvelynOctober 30, 2013 - 7:27 pm

    James: Either way, they're conscripted.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 7:29 pm

    Evelyn, true, but they would rather be conscripted as civilians.

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  • Dee#1October 30, 2013 - 8:31 pm

    James, it is dribble not drivel in basketball. Thank you for the update. I should have watched the game because Cousin Billy is umpiring again but had other things to do. Good night, I am reading "The Power of Place" and it very interesting . Continue with your drivel.

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  • James E.October 30, 2013 - 9:11 pm

    Dee, those umpires have a good job, except for the continuous travel away from their families.

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 8:22 am

    THIS (2 min. musical video) is dedicated to all ACA lovers. ********** Jerry Bligh: There's so much that I still don't understand, despite your patient tutelage.

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 8:40 am

    10 SIGNS THAT OBAMACARE IS GOING TO WRECK THE U.S. ECONOMY - HERE

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  • R J CarterOctober 31, 2013 - 9:46 am

    It's Halloween, and 75 years ago today was the first broadcast of Orson Well's "War of the Worlds".... I bet many of the "oldsters" on this blog were just kids back then and were completely taken in by the pure fantasy...Of course, many of those oldsters are still being taken in by pure fantasy, but today we call them Liberals.....

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 10:04 am

    R.J., I'd debate that with you, but I cannot because Dee said I'm not a liberal -- I'm something else but I don't remember what.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 10:10 am

    Evelyn, I read the 10 signs. But, when a health policy goes from approximately $200 a month to $1,300 a month does no one question Humania (sp?)? Looks like the health corporations are making big bucks on our ACA 'socialized' medicine. The ACA is nothing more than a give away to the health corporations (not surprising since their lobbyists wrote the ACA under the cover of Senator Baucus). Any outrage out there for this?

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 10:30 am

    Thank you, James. PLENTY of outrage out there. Count me as Outraged.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 10:13 am

    I'll answer that question. Nope, no outrage at all.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 31, 2013 - 10:32 am

    Evelyn: Do you know who Mac Slavo is? He's the guy predicting "the end is coming." He's a supporter of Glenn Beck. These guys are VERY LOOSE with the facts...

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 10:38 am

    Hi Dink. No, I don't know about Mac Slavo, nor have I followed Glenn Beck. I do, however, accept that much reporting treats "facts" very loosely.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 11:01 am

    Glenn Beck uses no facts. He is a complete fruitcake. Now, about 15 years ago he was on the radio and a moderate normal human being. Then he discovered that if he flung raw red meat to confederate groups he could make big bucks and so he has.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 11:02 am

    And, believe it or not, Glenn is even more fruitcake than Rush.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 11:05 am

    Not that I don't like real fruitcake (from a Monastery in Virginia).

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 11:10 am

    Ms. Kernan, who could you have sued and why? And who or what is Scanavino?

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  • Marcia KernanOctober 31, 2013 - 12:07 pm

    School district, orthopaedic surgeon, Bank of America, a private party for 3rd degree burns on my daughter's leg (worse than the McD suit). Scanavino is a local insurance broker.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 11:18 am

    And speaking of fruitcakes, Senator Cruz's father. Claims the Senator is the second coming and that God talks directly to him. He claims that just before the end money will be taken from the rich and given to the faithful. BUT, only if they tithe now. Give your 10% to Senator Cruz's father now and you will qualify in the big payoff down the line. I always worry when one says that God speaks directly to them encouraging contributions. I know that's BS because they never tell us that God's voice is a female voice and a female God is not interested in getting money to Senator Cruz's father.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 11:19 am

    How do people get taken in by such con men? Give me 10% of your stuff every pay period and God will pay you back with interest next Tuesday?

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  • Dink LaneOctober 31, 2013 - 11:31 am

    James: That was great about Cruz's father and God.... I almost choked on my lunch..... I'm sorry I have to go back to work..... but, James..... keep those comments coming.... they're great...

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 11:47 am

    Tonight is candy night. I don't seem to get much business anymore. Just a few children from surrounding houses. But, I always do get a few of the following: "How old are you guys? What college do you go to?" No costume of course, 6'2' tall, 220 pounds. What could they wear? Football uniform posing as a line backer for the 49ers? Have they no shame?

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 12:50 pm

    Ms. Kernan, please write your representative and ask him to introduce a bill that deletes the ACA and replaces it with Medicare For All. I'm assuming McClintock is your representative, so let us know how he replies to your request. However, I can guess Tom's position: YES on deleting the ACA, NO on Medicare For All. But, let us know. If we had Medicare For All businesses wouldn't have to provide health insurance for their employees and individuals would only have a health insurance bill of about $106.00 a month. Everyone would be covered. Medicare for All cost too much? We seem to find money for everything else -- and, whatever the cost it would be money well spend for our citizens. Yes, health insurance lobbyists would go crazy, but it's time for their buggy whip businesses to go out of business.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    *** delete spend, add spent

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 5:48 pm

    THIS is for Dink & others who find my sources weak. COST OF THE FUTURE NEWLY INSURED UNDER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT (ACA) March 2013, Society of Actuaries. (1) Pg.6: Cost for members without group coverage will increase 32% compared to pre-ACA projections. (2) Pgs.7&8: In California rates will increase 55.2% - 61.6%.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 31, 2013 - 6:26 pm

    Evelyn: Once again let me give you an actual case -- My Son. He had Catastrophic (Only pay if he spends $5000 first...No Dr apt, No prescriptions, No preventive care.).... That is not legally HC coverage..... The letter from Kaiser said.... old plan ($140 / month) covered until Dec. 31.... New, legal plan ($245 / month) starts on Jan. 1........ An increase of 57%....... and he pays $40 to see a doctor, no co-pay for flu shots, and blood tests..... He's an attorney, runs his own business and agrees.... It's a more economical coverage...

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 6:50 pm

    Dink: I'm certain you know the particulars of your son's coverage. For a broader picture, however, I assume the Society of Actuaries (@ 5:48 pm) probably did a reasonably accurate study.

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 6:56 pm

    Dink: Upon reread, that first sentence of mine appears a bit bolshy. I only intended to convey that I believe you are correctly representing the situation.

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  • James E.October 31, 2013 - 5:55 pm

    Obamacare: 80% unaffected (keep their current employer plan); 14% currently uninsured who will gain access to an affordable policy; 3% have to buy new plans, but similar to existing policies; and, 3% who will have to buy a higher-quality health plan at increased cost. So all this crazy talk is because 3% will have to buy a higher-quality plan because their current plan is crappy -- $52.00 a month covering band-aids, and no hospital stays or doctor office visits.

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 6:46 pm

    James: It appears we are referencing different categories of insured. @5:48 pm is about those without group coverage. Your 80% references employer (group) plans.

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  • EvelynOctober 31, 2013 - 7:22 pm

    GOP Rep Asks Kathleen Sebelius Why Single Men Need Maternity Coverage - HERE

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  • EvelynNovember 01, 2013 - 7:05 am

    "The irony of Republican disapproval of Obamacare" - HERE: In 1989, Stuart M. Butler of the conservative Heritage Foundation came up with a plan that would “mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance.” Insurance companies loved Butler’s plan so much it found its way into several bills introduced by Republican lawmakers in 1993. Among the supporters were senators Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and Charles Grassley, R-Iowa (who now oppose the mandate under the Affordable Care Act). Newt Gingrich, who became Speaker of the House in 1995, was also a big proponent. . . . Now that the essential Republican plan for healthcare is being implemented nationally, health insurance companies are jubilant.

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  • James E.November 01, 2013 - 8:31 am

    Evelyn, yes, the ACA is not Socialism, it is a HICA (Health Insurance Corporation Act).

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  • EvelynNovember 01, 2013 - 8:45 am

    James: We are in agreement.

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  • James E.November 01, 2013 - 9:11 am

    Tea/Republicans are against the ACA. I cannot imagine why as it is a Health Insurance Corporation plan?? Nevertheless, they are opposed (perhaps they are just opposed to President Obama) and they are ready to propose their new plan to replace the ACA. Their new plan: Nothing.

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  • James E.November 01, 2013 - 9:34 am

    Hmmm, but perhaps the Tea/Republicans really want the ACA to succeed because it is their plan. But, only after they can get every ounce of anti-Obama juice out of complaining about it. A win win for them. Support for the Health Insurance Corporations, plus constant knocking of President Obama. There is just something about him, cannot put my finger on it, that they've detested about him from his first day in the White House. What could it be?

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  • Dee#1November 01, 2013 - 11:43 am

    James, if you are going to call the Tea Party/conservatives and me racists, then do it. Stop trying to be coy. I realize it is difficult for Leftist/Democrats/Republicans to realize that we might find fault with Obama's failing policies, draconian regulations, constant lying and complete incompetence as the reason we fight him. As far as, as the unaffordable Obamacare is concerned that belongs strictly to the Democrats. Not one, not one Republican was involved in the planning, voting or execution of it. From 2009, the Republicans tried to get measures past to work on healthcare and the Democrats never allowed them out of Committee.

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  • Marcia KernanNovember 01, 2013 - 9:49 pm

    Dee, I support your statements. It is difficult to ask, let alone expect, everyone to think the way we do. One must experience it to appreciate it. It's no one's fault. My hope and prayer is that somehow we all can communicate so that we can appreciate....each other. It saddens me to be consistently called a racist, a tight-way, a hater of poor, blah, blah, blah. In reality, I am just the opposite per my life's history. I just know when it is time to "stop the bleeding". There is no hate, just reality.

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  • James E.November 01, 2013 - 12:14 pm

    Dee, are you a racist? Only you know for sure. I cannot see inside your head. How about that Tea/Republican Congressman who said he would vote for slavery if the voters in his district wanted him to -- why would he make such a statement out of the blue? A little racist slavery meat for his voters? How many would want a cook, a butler, and a yard man -- just three pieces of property? Wouldn't this be appealing in the Confederate south? An area where not one racist exists, or so they say.

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  • Dee#1November 01, 2013 - 1:41 pm

    James, hokum .

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  • James E.November 01, 2013 - 1:51 pm

    Dee, what happened to drivel? I was beginning to like drivel.

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  • Dee#1November 01, 2013 - 2:59 pm

    James, MD orders and it is their site.

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  • James E.November 01, 2013 - 9:57 pm

    Educated types? Are we now going to count academic degrees? I think Phil's friend, Roscoe has a GED. I'll raise your BA with a BS and a MA and a MS. Where is this leading?

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  • James E.November 01, 2013 - 9:59 pm

    Full disclosure: Off to watch TV, but will be back later. Everyone play nice.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 9:42 am

    The Leftist Way or should I say crony capitalism------------ AAA vs. EPA 1:29 PM, NOV 30, 2012 • BY GEOFFREY NORMAN Send to Kindle Single PagePrintLarger TextSmaller TextAlerts The AAA has joined the side of the crackpots resisting the burning of food in internal combustion engines: The AAA says the Environmental Protection Agency and gasoline retailers should halt the sale of E15, a new ethanol blend that could damage millions of vehicles and void car warranties. Not to worry, says the CEO of the Renewable Fuels Association (that would be the lobbying organization for the corn famers and refiners who are doing very, very well on the ethanol mandate). The EPA isn't talking. But then, it doesn't have to. It is the government, after all. It is interesting that corn continues to be force fed into cars – thus driving up the price of food – at a time when we are being told that the nation is less and less dependent on foreign sources of oil and may soon not require them at all. This would seem to eliminate entirely the need to make corn into fuel. Which explains why we need a Renewable Fuels Association. Meanwhile, you might want to renew your AAA membership. That way, when ethanol fries the engine in your car, you'll be confident of getting a tow.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 9:46 am

    Morning chuckle------"-Tennessee State Senator Brian Kelsey presented HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius with a gift of Websites For Dummies during a Memphis ObamaCare event, evoking annoyed, constipated looks from the people around her." Tennessee State Senator Brian Kelsey presented HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius with a gift of Websites For Dummies during a Memphis ObamaCare event, evoking annoyed, constipated looks from the people around her.

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  • EvelynNovember 02, 2013 - 9:53 am

    TOP HOSPITALS OPT OUT OF OBAMACARE - HERE

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  • EvelynNovember 02, 2013 - 9:59 am

    "Constitutional conservatives don't hate Obamacare because we don't want people to have healthcare. We hate Obamacare because it is a horrible solution to a problem that needs a working solution." - HERE

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 10:42 am

    Evelyn, thank you for the post. It is definitely going to shared by me to many people. I particularly like this paragraph --------"They don't know how to classify or pigeonhole us, and they certainly don't have the capacity to argue with us on a rational level because half the story has gone over their heads. And so, they follow the natural human inclination, which is to hate and despise what one does not understand and what one cannot quantify. In the eyes of bewildered Democrats (and some elitist Republicans) we are extremists, because they have never been confronted before with people who are so fully committed and immovable in their principles. Uncompromising opponents, unshakeable opponents, are the most terrifying opponents."

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 10:45 am

    Evelyn, I didn't read the site, but if Obamacare is a horrible solution, what is the Conservative solution that will be a working solution? Back to health insurance companies rejecting claims, denying insurance to those with pre-existing conditions, etc., etc. Or, simply stated, health insurance companies run wild and uninsured going to the emergency rooms. What is the conservation solution? I think their solution is the old way where citizens should get sick and die quickly. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 10:54 am

    Dee, what's with the constant hate thing? I don't hate you or the Tea Party. Contempt for their cowboy ways, but contempt is not hate. Oh, right, I also fear you and the Tea Party. Poppycock. Would I appear just a little off center if I said you hate and fear the Democratic Party? Of course I would.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 10:56 am

    As I answer Dee, my comment is disappearing. A little MD censorship?

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 10:57 am

    Maybe the MD is trying to tell me not to answer her, but to let her ramble.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:02 am

    I'll try one last time: Dee, what is with the hate thing? I don't hate you or the Tea Party. Contempt yes because of the Tea Party cowboy ways. Contempt is not hate. Oh, right, I also fear you and the Tea Party. Nonsense. I don't say you hate and fear the Democratic Party -- if I did wouldn't you think I'm just a little nutso? Of course you would.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:05 am

    Anyone want to give me the Tea/Republican solution to health care, if Obamacare doesn't make it.

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  • CarolynNovember 02, 2013 - 11:36 am

    A solution could be .. a medical insurance policy, in case you get sick.. novel idea.. not the (not so) affordable care requirement for when and if you are sick. It should be free market, so anyone can have the freedom to shop for what ever they want or what ever meets their needs. Perhaps Obamacare could or should have been a policy for those who did NOT have access to an insurance policy for medical or life insurance at a discounted rate.. like Medicaid or Medicare. Those who had policy's should have been left untouched or with the freedom to change if THEY so desired and not a forced market controlled by the govt.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 11:21 am

    James, I have already answered your question numerous times. Perhaps you should read my entire comments instead of choosing on word. I also suggest you read the article. I liked that paragraph because it is true. And his explanation is absolutely correct. You can call it contempt, I call it knee shaking fear.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:25 am

    Dee, back to the fear thing again. Is that all you have?

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:28 am

    I have had knee shaking fear once. It was in 1943 when I was six years old in the Tower theater in Sacramento while watching "The Mummy Returns." Man, did that scare me. Not so with the Tea/Republicans.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:31 am

    If I can speak without the threat of hate and fear, tomorrow is change the clock day. Fall back.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:34 am

    The Tower theater was constructed, I think, in 1937 so it was still a very nice place during the 1940s. I was away from Sacramento for three decades. so I'm not sure when, but they chopped it up into compartments -- four, I think. The beautiful Tower was gone.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:40 am

    One last comment about the Tower. In late 1968 while waiting to go to graduate school, I flew helicopters out of Mather. I flew over and looked down at the Tower -- it wasn't solid, but a facade. I don't know why that surprised me, but it did. Guess because as a kid I wouldn't have thought that the Tower would present a false face. Then, we grow up and find there are lots of false faces.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:42 am

    Caroline, so, in sum, the old way.

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  • CarolynNovember 02, 2013 - 1:42 pm

    Yep, sir. It should have been left as an insurance program as a benefit ti those who purchase it. Not a mandatory "care" program that is overseen by goverment regulatory commissions. Next we will have the affordable death act. That all people wil have to have death coverage. Where dows it stop in a free society. I also think the "Hunger Games" would have been a more suitable analogy.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:44 am

    *** Sorry, Carolyn.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 11:44 am

    James, I recommend you read the article. And reread past comments. Again, I have answered your questions.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 11:50 am

    Dee, thank you. You are getting better, as you didn't hit me with hate and fear again.

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  • Dink LaneNovember 02, 2013 - 11:55 am

    You realize there was a time when there was an OPEN MARKET to buy health insurance plans UNTIL Lobbyist warmed up to our elected officials.... LAWS were put in to create obstacles to keep certain people OR certain plans from the market -- Case in point: GA --The only group plan was Anthem Blue Shield

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 02, 2013 - 11:59 am

    James ..The Mummy was a movie first shown in 1932...Followed by The Mummy's Hand (1940), The Mummy's Tomb (1942), The Mummy's Ghost (1944) and later the The Mummy's Curse....."The Mummy Returns" wasn't made in 2001, but just like Obama Care, cares about the facts??.....

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 12:07 pm

    James, if you review the comments, I was thanking Evelyn for posting an article that I find interesting and shared with my friends and family. I also quoted my favorite paragraph that was not directed at anyone. Then you jumped on me about your contempt of the Tea Party. And I responded what you call contempt I call knee-shaking fear. I suggested and suggest you read the article. You might learn something. You certainly will learn what I think of Leftist.

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  • EvelynNovember 02, 2013 - 12:19 pm

    James @ 10:45 am: The article (Are Constitutional Conservatives Really The Bogeyman?) - HERE is about the false left/right paradigm. I believe all 2,612 words are worth reading.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 12:19 pm

    One of my favorite quotes for the day----------"Heinlein has a number of good ones, -----”Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative and so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.”

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  • EvelynNovember 02, 2013 - 12:24 pm

    Dee#1: I believe labeling people serves to marginalize/dismiss them, saving us the bother of having to examine the merits of their information/experience/perspective.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 12:43 pm

    R.J., you will have to forgive me, I was only six. All I know it was a mummy slowly shuffling towards me and my knees started knocking together in fear. It must have been "The Mummy's Tomb." May this be my only mistake in November. My bad.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 12:50 pm

    Evelyn, I agree. That is one of the reasons Heinlein's quote is one of my favorites. And I really enjoyed your article because it emphasizes how distorted views are of Tea Party/Conservatives.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 12:56 pm

    Evelyn, I read it. Brandon Smith and his convoluted defense of the Tea Party -- doesn't he know that 10,000 words tends towards boredom? It was so "good" that I felt hate and fear racing through my body. Hate to say it, but burn them at the stake if they again threaten a default in Jan/Feb.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 12:59 pm

    Evelyn, I see it was only 2,612 words. Are you sure? it sure seemed like 10,000 words.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 1:08 pm

    A viable political party is not one that extorts -- give us what we want or we will cause the default of the United States. This is a movement that must be curbed.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 1:09 pm

    James, you better start stacking the kindling.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 1:10 pm

    I have stirred the pot enough, so will be back later. Everyone stay calm -- we will survive all this.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 1:14 pm

    James, do you whistle in the dark too?

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 1:52 pm

    Couple of quick comments and then I'm out again: Dee, I cannot whistle, never have. Wish I could. Also, I don't have to collect the kindling, as you will collect your own when the Tea Party forces the Republican Party to nominate Cruz for the 2016 election. Hillary will crush him and your party will be finished -- i.e., burning yourselves at the stake. Be calm.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 4:19 pm

    I agree with Kudlow-------CNBC’s business and economic analyst Larry Kudlow says that we are witnessing the crumbling of the liberal entitlement-state fantasy. “Between the president's broken promises, the millions of policy cancellations, the continued website breakdowns and the unaffordable, unfair con game between the healthy young and the sicker old, this Obamacare monster is well on its way to collapsing of its own weight… But here's the bigger point: All this is the inevitable result of massive central-planning exercises to control the economy. That's not freedom.” Read more at http://eaglerising.com/2668/reading-november-2-2013/#S9BWCOfr8LaFXqKH.99

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 4:57 pm

    FYI---- This past week, a lot of people realized that President Obama lied to misled the American people on his “you can keep your insurance” pledge. In fact, up to 93 million Americans may lose their employer-sponsored health plans on top of the million of others who are losing their individually-bought plans. The fact that the Obama Administration knew this in 2010 makes it even more damning. According to the Wall Street Journal, Obama aides actually debated whether to be honest with Americans or to deceive them. The Obama Administration chose deception. But at times, there was second-guessing. At one point, aides discussed whether Mr. Obama might use more in-depth discussions, such as media interviews, to explain the nuances of the succinct line in his stump speeches, a former aide said. Officials worried, though, that delving into details such as the small number of people who might lose insurance could be confusing and would clutter the president’s message. “You try to talk about health care in broad, intelligible points that cut through, and you inevitably lose some accuracy when you do that,” the former official said. The former official added that in the midst of a hard-fought political debate “if you like your plan, you can probably keep it” isn’t a salable point. [Emphasis added.] Though this deception should surprise only those who actually believed the President, for any President to knowingly engage in the deception of the American people on an issue of such great importance to all Americans should never be tolerated. The question now is: How many Congressional Democrats were also in on the lie? _____________________ “Truth isn’t mean. It’s truth.” Andrew Breitbart (1969-2012) Get LUR updates on Twitter. Tags: Obama deception, Obama lied, obamacare

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 02, 2013 - 5:43 pm

    .In 2003 As Baghdad was in flames and American M1 Abrams Battle tanks rolled through it's streets, Baghdad Bob said .."There is no presence of American infidels in the city of Baghdad." We slaughtered them and will continue to slaughter them."....In 2013..As Hillary's ties to Benghazi and all her other huge foreign policy debacles are beginning to emerge, James states:...Hillary will crush him and your party will be finished -- i.e., burning yourselves at the stake....Anyone else see a pattern???...

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 6:07 pm

    R.J., my name is Jim, not Bob. I predicted the last election and that was darn hard. The next one will be easy, as all the people who the Tea/Republicans are putting the screws to will be voting for Hillary. Add Cruz, and it is such an easy one to predict.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 6:51 pm

    R.J, do you remember the song from the King and I? ---"Whenever I feel afraid, I hold myself erect, I whistle a happy tune and no one knows that I'm afraid." Doesn't that sound like a certain retired Colonel?

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 7:48 pm

    My God, the King and I. Dee never stops trying to have some insight into Democrats with the fear thing. A woman who constantly speaks of fear should look into her mirror. Now, back to Netflix.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 9:48 pm

    Just for you James---SA COMMUNITIES-NORTHWEST > COMMUNITIES > NEWS > SACOMMUNITIES-NORTHWEST NEWSWhy do the Democrats fear the Tea Party so much?BY ELDON R. KRAMER, GUEST COMMENTARY : OCTOBER 1, 2013 Comments (0) E-mail Print Tweet In a summer Rasmussen poll among those who approve of the president's job performance, 26 per cent said the Tea Party concerns them almost as much radical Muslims (29 per cent), and among those who strongly approve of the president, more fear the Tea Party than radical Muslims. This fear may explain the deliberate effort on the part of the IRS to target and delay Tea Party organizations and other conservative groups seeking tax exempt status. While the targeting has not been traced to a White House directive, it was the president who created the culture of intimidation around conservative contributors and non-profits. ------ Only those who fear the Tea Party would say "enemies of the State" who should be "burn them at the stake", comments from Longhofer.

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  • Dee#1November 02, 2013 - 10:04 pm

    FYI-----Why the panic? Well, the left has good reason to fear the tea party and 9-12 activists, and their usual tactics aren’t working. Millions of ordinary citizens have become involved in political debate and protest for the first time in their lives. Patriots are worried about the loss of personal freedom that is embodied in the Obama agenda, and they are worried about our national security under a president who is more comfortable apologizing for America than defending it. But our new citizen activists are also feared because they are effective! They do not sit home and write polite letters to the editor. They are not lulled into complacency when their congressman answers their questions with only form-letter replies. The new citizen patriots do more than voice polite criticisms and then go home. They march, they take names, they demand answers, and they vote. Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2010/03/132565/#IZoKJ36GcF1AdV2J.99

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 10:27 pm

    Dee, despite our differences I thought you were a balanced women, albeit your membership in the Tea Party. I'm now beginning to think your are a radical zealot. But, it's always nice that the MD site has at least one radical zealot, so you fulfill our needs in that area. Oh, and I believe that Rasmussen is a Republican pollster who produces the poll results that Republicans want. They too fulfill a need.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 10:36 pm

    ADDED: And, after researching Eldon R. Kramer, I find him to be a Tea Party hack. Dee, you need to find more authentic authorities for your rants.

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  • James E.November 02, 2013 - 10:38 pm

    Don't forget to change your clocks. Two AM becomes one AM. It's the hour they took from us last spring. Always happy to get it back. Do we really need daylight savings time?

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 03, 2013 - 6:41 am

    James...Since picking the winner of a two horse race hardly classifies someone as clairvoyant and since elections are won by votes not proclamation, I see the election still being held as planned....That being said, myself as the true Seer of Seers, the Prognosticator of all Prognosticators I will make the prediction that by the year 2016 Hillairy will be just a footnote in history....On the Republican side Ted Cruz will not be in the running...I see in my tea leafs (LOL) ..Bob McDonnell for Prez, Rick Perry for VP mopping the floor with the ticket of creepy Uncle Joe Biden and the wannabe American Indian Elizabeth Warren....

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  • Dee#1November 03, 2013 - 8:24 am

    James, just once it would be nice to have you actually defend your position instead of attacking the messenger and using Alinsky' rule 13. Well now I am a radical zealot. And you Sir, have no argument to refute the fear that the Democrats/Republicans and you show the Tea Party.

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  • Dee#1November 03, 2013 - 8:27 am

    R.J., I am thinking that Scott Walker or Bobby Jindal should be on the ticket. If Cuccenelli wins on Tuesday, Walker's prestige will soar. But 2016 is a long ways away.

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 03, 2013 - 9:06 am

    ....Yes Dee your correct, a lot will happen between now and 2016 and Scott Walker is another good bet, but the only thing for sure is it will all come down to their individual voting record, personality, looks and funding...That's why I think Bob McDonnell....As for the other GOP favorites, all great guys, but it's those little things that really shouldn't matter in a perfect world that will hinder them...Ben Carson is too stiff... Chris (Rino) Christie is too fat... Bobby Jindal is too skinny.... Rand Paul is too short..&.. Marco Rubio, too broke....Also....Speaking of creepy Uncle Joe Biden, he's been completely off the radar for a couple months now, it makes me wonder if King Obama has him straight-jacketed in a padded room somewhere.....

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  • James E.November 03, 2013 - 9:40 am

    R.J., we will have to see who has the clearest crystal ball. Biden is old news. I think they have Biden in hiding because he cannot speak without putting his foot in his mouth. Hillary will be the nominee and the female vote, along with all the other downtrodden, will put her easily over the top. Not sure who the VP nominee will be. As for the Republican nominee, you mention some moderate Republicans, but the Tea Party will screw that up as they will demand a candidate who cannot win (Cruz). And, Dee, you want me to argue my position while you argue hate and fear. I think I gave you too much credit saying you were a zealot -- after reading that Tea Party hack you referenced last evening, you are just a parrot repeating the Tea Party PR position: "They hate and fear us." Oh, and Cuccenelli (he who loves putting probes in women) will lose. It's said the kiss of death was Cruz's support. Let the games continue.

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  • Dee#1November 03, 2013 - 9:48 am

    R.J., Ben Carson says he doesn't have the personality to run for office. But it is all in God's hands. Hey, Jindal is no more skinny than Obama. It seems like me, you prefer Governor's for Presidents. Enough of this on the job training of Senators. James, whatever.

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  • James E.November 03, 2013 - 9:52 am

    Phil, I hope that little pup turned out to be a good dog for you. Extra points for you for taking the little guy into your home.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 03, 2013 - 12:20 pm

    James, Charlie 12 Step developed in to a wonderful "stick dog". Unfortunately he never had the chance to try out for the part of "cow dog". But he did excel on tennis ball "keep away". It didn't matter where I threw the ball - far - deep grass - briar patch - he unerringly sniffed it out, returned it and then refused to turn it over. I'd try to get it from his clenched jaws. I'd growl, "bark" and wrestle. Finally i'd get it and instantly Charlie would be ready for the next round. I tricked him by releasing the ball behind my back and continue with the foreword throwing motion. That trick produced a most satisfying state of confusion. But Charlie learned how to get even. He developed a revenge strategy. When I actually did throw the ball he'd find it then "walk on by" pretending he hadn't. He'd make ME go fetch.

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  • James E.November 03, 2013 - 9:54 am

    Dee, I'm glad to see you are reduced to "whatever." Isn't that a teen thing?

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 03, 2013 - 10:38 am

    Dee, Yes....I've always thought ex-Governors make the best Presidents

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  • Dee#1November 03, 2013 - 11:22 am

    Longhofer----7. whatever Uttered in a derisive and dismissive tone, in response to a confrontation or accusation which has been judged to be unimpressive, obnoxious, or disingenuous. Often used to dismiss someone when it is clear that rational discussion would be a waste of time and energy.

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  • James E.November 03, 2013 - 12:00 pm

    Dee, yes, and uttered by those who have nothing left. I think we're finished.

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  • Little RickyNovember 13, 2013 - 11:52 am

    Sit Jimmy,,,, Woof.

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