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EDITOR:
June 28, 2012 was a very exciting day for me just to know that America might finally have an affordable health care plan. And at the same time we have the Republican Party and their man that they have chosen to be our president that are bound and determined to destroy what Obama has accomplished.
This man must be ashamed of America to keep his holdings and his accomplishments off-shore of America. And he only pays 13 percent in federal income tax, while at the same time the American workers are paying 30 to 40 percent. I ask myself why would I vote for a man that will not pay his fair share of income tax that would help the U.S. economy? His health care is paid by you, the taxpayer. Yet he refuses you and me a federal plan.
He will spend millions to be our president. We all know that the rich need the poor as much as the poor need the rich. Are we not all Americans? One nation under God with liberty and justice for all? Or do we just say that, so the rest of the world can hear us?
Let us face the truth, what is Social Security? What is Medicare? What is any federal pension? Call it what you want. I do not know one senior or government official that does not love it. I have not heard one person say it is socialism and I will not accept it.
So all of you people that vote against Obama’s health care plan, please don’t accept Medicare or Social Security. Leave it it for those that need it, and is greatly appreciated.
I would like to ask you, how many of us have worked for a company five to 25 years and have lost our job for some reason? And now we can no longer afford our health plan. Is that fair to you and your family? I have here in Placerville a daughter and son-in-law that for 25 years have paid $950 to $1,450 a month for health care. Now that work is so slow, they can no longer afford health care.
And to think that these CEOs of insurance companies are still receiving millions in bonuses. I ask again is this the America that I was taught that is of the people, by the people and for the people? I would like to remind America that this man did not think it was right for Obama to save General Motors or Chrysler. My question is, is this man a true American? I have to believe that he would have just let the American auto market go. Some of us think because he is a good business man that he would make a good president. Maybe if he paid his employees a better wage, he would not be so rich. Otherwise share the wealth with America instead of hoarding everything to himself. I don’t know about you. Myself, I like a man that has America at heart, and not his pocketbook.
BILL KIRKPATRICK
Placerville
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Judith MathatSeptember 04, 2012 - 12:05 pm
Bill, If your son and daughter-in-law had paid that $360,000 ($950 to $1450 average $1200 per month times 25 years = $360,000) into a lock box medical account they would have had well over any amount they needed to pay for their medical unless they needed catastropic care and then a separate low premium insurance for catastropic care could be there to support them for those occurances. We need to ALL have lockbox accounts so NO government can take your $$ and use them. This would work in Retirement accounts as well as medical. Suprised that you are whining about someone who used their knowledge to build their own future and is protecting it locally as well as off shore and keeping it out of the hands of the federal government. We need to get the federal government off our backs and get rid of all excuses for the IIRS or income taxes and to a use tax or sales tax and let the bean counters in the IRS spend their time collecting and dividing up the sizeable take with the feds, states, counties and cities and not have to go after the citizens as we will all have paid our fair share according to our ability to pay. Say 25% of every dollar goes to support our governments and NO one can complain they are paying too much as they will only buy what they can afford and by the way--foodstuffs and housing could be the ONLY items that are not taxed. So no one not even the wealthy gets a pass and especially the electeds in our country. Is is possible for this to happen under an integrity and value driven political administration but do not think Romney would be able to accompolish it and know that under Obama it is really a pipe dream. If only both parties could work towards this for the good of the country we would be out of debt and have all the medical and insurance companies as well as clinics and hospitals and pharmaceutical companies wooing us instead of lobbying in Washington. Solving problems instead of continuing the same old ones is not moving this country forward.
James E.September 04, 2012 - 2:43 pm
Ms. Mathat's comment is stuffed with Tea/Republican talking points. Inference that everyone should be on their own - dog eat dog.
Business and finacial adviseSeptember 04, 2012 - 2:45 pm
My advise is: Don't follow financial advice from the Mathats. Judy are you really rationalizing off shore accounts? You do know that that loans are made by US banks that have US dollars deposited in them and that the ease of getting those loans, including to those wanting to start a business, is predicated on the banks having monies on deposit to loan out...?? It's pretty basic actually...
hmmmmSeptember 04, 2012 - 2:48 pm
Judy- you do realize you just used Obama's campaign slogan at the end of your rant- dont you?
PatriotSeptember 04, 2012 - 3:07 pm
25% of every dollar go to support our governments? NO one can complain they are paying too much as they will only buy what they can afford? These sound more like Communist statements from the Politburo rather than sound principles of the Republic!
Long Time VoterSeptember 07, 2012 - 6:47 am
Judith M.....by your post I can clearly see that you have never had any medical problems. In the last 22 years I've had seven spine surgeries....these surgeries run in at 100K....the so-called medical lock box would have been empty in about 3 years. I laugh when I see posts like this....you have no problem with the 50 million plus salaries that the insurance companies pay their CEO. Do you think that this money came from the insurance company cutting corners and charging low rates.....no, it came from goughing customers. Do you think the hospitals that are building new facilities and pay their CEO's millions in salaries care about what they are charging their customers? Get a clue....your comments don't hold water or make any sense in the 21st century. I am so proud of our president who had the guts to take on the insurance companies and hospitals and say that we've had enough of their accounting and that every American deserves health care. If we can afford to kill people in all our wars, then we can afford health care for every American.
Dink LaneSeptember 07, 2012 - 1:55 pm
According to "Patriot" and "Judith Mathat," Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" the voice used to inspire the Revolutionary Americans -- IS ALL WRONG.... Paine says in paragraph #2: "Government is necessary...security being the true design and end of government... is preferable to all of us." .... Patriot & JM have got theirs and these pheasants who are acting like Revolutionary Americans and who want a chance for an education, security, and health care (You know Pursuit of Happiness -- NON-SICKESS that Elites like P and JM have.) .... are doing that annoying "wanting a fair share" that Jefferson wrote columns about...
Jack MartinSeptember 07, 2012 - 5:49 pm
Mr Kirkpatrick, I sympathize with the emotioal side of your points, truly I do. But you are not seeing the big picture. I have posed this proposition before and NOBODY has ever redressed it... You may or may not need healthcare today, tomorrow, this week or this year, but you WILL need food and shelter and probably even transportation today, tomorrow, this week and this year. So if health care is deemed a *right* because of its necessity, how then you do declare that the other items are NOT also rights? And do you insist that your neighbors pay for those things, too, under the force of law?
James E.September 07, 2012 - 6:20 pm
Mr. Martin, buy me a chili dog, I'm hungry. In a sense, food is a right as our society does not allow people to starve in the streets. Less so for shelter and transportation, as one can live under the stars and walk.
TerrySeptember 07, 2012 - 10:52 pm
Where to start. Mr. Martin is correct. Food and shelter come before healthcare on the priority list. All three come before beer, boats, flat screen TVs and other luxuries of life. (I have left out taxes which actually claims position number one since it is collected by force.) When you buy insurance, you are gambling against yourself. Basically, you are betting that you will have some calamity that will allow you to collect from the insurance company more than you pay in premiums. Ms. Mathat’s comments about building up HSA savings backed by a catastrophic health policy are wise things for young healthy individuals to do. It is a much more efficient means of protecting one’s future while simultaneously building assets. The worst thing you can do is give your money to a government run by politicians. Unfortunately ObamaCare has reduced the HSA option. As for Mr. Kirkpatrick’s comments, the first thing I is see is envy of other people’s possessions/income followed by greed of his own. He covets his neighbors’ possessions/incomes. CEO’s are certainly greedy and take home far more than they are worth. However, that is a matter for the boards of directors to correct not government. Mr. Kirkpatrick, many people do look at SS, Medicare, etc. as socialist policies. Since they were forced to pay, they accept the benefits as a fitting and just return on their forced investment. However, they are poor investments. In 1984, SS payments were increased to save for the coming baby boom generation. The excess funds were dumped into the general fund and promptly squandered. Had those excess funds been invested in 401K accounts with even just an average return rate, we would all be looking at healthy savings that would not dependent upon who occupies the seats of government. If you do not believe me, dig out your SS statements and do the math yourself. Continuing these socialist policies thus passing them on to our children and grandchildren is fiscal folly.