Friday, April 18, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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How the Teahadist Party ate the GOP

EDITOR:

If anyone needed more proof that the Teahadist/GOP Party is undemocratic, then the government shutdown ought to convince even the most skeptical. The bomb throwers preferred destroying the government and the world economy than accept the will of the majority.

The Teahadists do not like the constitutional process by which each chamber passes legislation. Where, in the Constitution, do they read that losing an election, or having to submit to a law they do not like, sanctions bypassing the constitutional order and blackmailing the president?

Although no Republican voted for the ACA, it garnered a majority of Democratic and Independent votes in both chambers after going through eight months of negotiations. It wasn’t “rammed” down the GOP’s throat, nor was it passed during a lame-duck session, as the GOP also claims — it was passed on March 23, 2010, long before the November elections.

The GOP never offered an alternative to the ACA, nor did it offer “fixes,” nor does it intend to ever do so. If the Republicans want to pass a law repealing the ACA, then follow the procedures outlined in the Constitution: propose a bill and get a majority of the votes. Is this “democracy” business such a difficult concept for Republicans to grasp?

“There is nothing wrong with our present health care system that the free market cannot fix,” recently declared a Fox pundit. No kidding. She brought to mind the lady I met a month ago. She and her husband have 9-year-old autistic twins and, naturally, have been unable to get health insurance. They’ve had to declare bankruptcy twice. How do Teahadists tell such families to suck it up and wait for the “free market” to fix things? Too often, the wait turns into a wake.

The House of Representatives circus to which the world was just treated courtesy of the Teahadists speaks for itself: The inmates are running the asylum. Our own Tom McClintock is an opportunistic Teahadist extraordinaire, a man who never met a social program he did not want to kill or a polluter he did not embrace. McClintock calls himself a “Republican;” pity the party of Lincoln.

The Teahadist Party is an extremist group that has more in common with Europe’s nascent neo-fascist parties than with the GOP of Lincoln or Eisenhower. The disruption of political meetings, carrying guns to intimidate the opposition, their refusal to accept elections and to obey laws they do not like and the demonization of opponents are chillingly reminiscent of the tactics routinely used in all fascist states — from Mussolini to Guatemala’s caudillos. The vilification of Clinton and the attempted coup d’etat to unseat him are right out of the fascist playbook. And now, the same bunch is applying similar tactics to President Obama: bilious lies and invective tinged with a lot of racism that can only come from people who live in a world filled with hate and are detached from reality — people living in a bubble impervious to facts — people like McClintock.

The Teahadist Party will go the way of its ideological twin, the Knownothings whose extremism carried the seeds of its own destruction.

JOHN GARON
Placerville

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  • R J CarterOctober 17, 2013 - 12:42 pm

    Well folks, it's a brand new day and a brand new letter by John Garon.....And, again it's nothing but the same old tired B.S. he hears on MSNBC the night before, just jotted down, regurgitated, and vomited back up for all of us to enjoy...I swear the man wouldn't know his hair was on fire unless he saw it on MSNBC....

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 1:21 pm

    R.J., I thought his letter was satire. It certainly made me laugh.

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  • VernOctober 21, 2013 - 5:33 am

    John, I agree with you 100%. How do we list these nut-cases and avoid their businesses? My dollars will no longer support the Teahadist Party in or out of politics.

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  • JimOctober 21, 2013 - 5:56 am

    Even Carter should be able to understand this. Fundamentalist Tea party belief grows brains incapable of dealing with the world as it actually is. “From tribesmen in Borneo, eating the heart of an enemy and believing that they will thereby gain his strength, to Tea Party evangelical Republicans believing that what they need to do now, post-shutdown, is be even crazier in order to win — say by nominating a far right Christian radio host to primary a moderate candidate — the bad result of believing myths is amply demonstrated. It keeps tribesmen in Borneo in the Stone Age, and evangelicals feeling like they’re martyrs whenever they encounter sane people who question their religious or political facts.”

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  • Charlene HensleyOctober 17, 2013 - 3:13 pm

    Well said, John. In a county where only about one third of the voters are liberal, your letter is bound to attract attacks. I hope that never stops you from writing for the third who agree with you. That's still a lot of people.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 3:15 pm

    Dee, earlier you said that the president was responsible. No, not true, the president is responsible for the Executive Branch. He doesn't pass CRs that fund the government (the thing the Chinese and the rating agencies are concerned about), nor does he render judicial decisions. He is not responsible for the Congress or the Supreme Court. Simply, it is wrong to blame the president for everything that happens in the government. How's this for drivel?

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  • R J CarterOctober 17, 2013 - 3:39 pm

    "Simply, it is wrong to blame the president for everything that happens in the government"????....Liberals blamed G. Bush for everything that happened his entire 8 years in office and the 5 years since....

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 3:42 pm

    Longhofer, the President is the leader of the country and should be able to administer effectively enough to guide the Congress through the legislative process, to encourage discussion on issues and present an intelligent budget to Congress. Failing that, he is no leader and just a figurehead. However, I find it very interesting that the dead, powerless Tea Party movement has enough power to bring 17% if the government to a standstill.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 3:16 pm

    John, outstanding letter. You know, of course, "they" won't like it.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 3:50 pm

    Dee, the president can recommend, but not dictate to the Congress or the Supreme Court. Your argument fails.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 3:52 pm

    And, while I respect you too much to say your argument is drivel, it's getting very close.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    Hmmm, thinking whether the president's recommendations would sway the Tea Party in the House? Oh, guess not.

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 4:02 pm

    Longhofer, a leader doesn't dictate he motivates, he encourages, he helps. If he cannot have positive movement then he is not a leader. However, Longhofer, I will be happy to take the blame for the 17% shutdown. A dead, powerless movement, such as the Tea Party, is happy to have brought discussion regarding debt and the lack of a budget to the forefront. And that is the end of my drivel. I am concerned with the economic calamity that all of the countries' economic policies are leading us.

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 4:05 pm

    How would you ever know? The President didn't try. And he won every thing except the end of Sequester which is one his goals next time.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 4:07 pm

    Dee, we are all concerned. The problem is how best we can get to fiscal sanity.

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 4:28 pm

    James, I am afraid that my immediate thought is "I doubt it". The Leftist seems to be concentrated on winning the next election through fraud, stolen votes, and buying of votes; expanding the size and power of government; using the IRS to deny citizens the right to participate in the political process; and removing our freedoms, rights and prosperity to the level of the Middle Ages serfs. You and your President explained it when you called the Tea Party terrorists who need to be destroyed as enemies of the State. That does not give me hope that the Leftist want to solve problems, but instead it makes me think that they just want power to do what ever fits their fancy and he11 with the Country..

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  • Dink LaneOctober 17, 2013 - 4:38 pm

    John: McClintock calls himself a "Tea-Party" Member. He proved it when he walked away from his GOP Leader when he voted AGAINST "No Budget, No Pay" on Jan 23, 2013; voted AGAINST the Farm Bill on July 11, 2013; and voted AGAINST including "Defunding Obamacare" on July 11 -- even though McClintock SIGNED Mark Meadows letter (According to Congress's Voting Record) ..... You got whiplash yet???...... There's more..... McClintock takes his lead from Sen. Ted Cruz..... and was at the secret meeting at Tortilla Coast on Oct. 14th...... plotting against his OWN Republican Party.... McClintock..... Tea-Party is NOT 50% of this county..... It's time that McClintock represent the 84% of the residents in this county.....

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 5:17 pm

    Rep. McClintock, Thank you so much keeping your word and working for fiscal restraint, fewer regulations and working with Sen. Ted Cruz and others to try to stop the Republican Elites from devolving into Democrat-lite. Please continue the great work and I look forward to assisting you in your re-election.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 17, 2013 - 5:31 pm

    Dee: FISCAL RESTRAINT????? His "shutdown" COST this country...... $24 Billion (with a "B")..... REDUCED the GDP by 0.6% (That is one-third of the growth for THIS YEAR) according to Standards & Poors.......... What about the cost of 800,000 PEOPLE being "Paid" and not allowed to work???? (Now we have to pay them overtime to catch up) ......... What about the officers that HAD to work WITHOUT pay?????? Their missed payments ............ DEE you have a very weird view of FISCAL RESTRAINT......McClintock may represent you and your 23% of this District...... but he does NOT represent the hard-working members of this District who needed him to listen to the PEOPLE (the other 77% of this District) .......... NOT Ted Cruz from TEXAS..... Who McCain calls a "Wacko-Bird"....

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 5:40 pm

    Dink, you are doing a very good job of screaming the Democrat/ Republican talking points. However, I must remind you Rep. McClintock won the election. And you know, elections count. Why if you win an election, you don't even have to talk to the other side because you won the election. So I am sure you will campaign for any leftist, Democrat or Republican, that runs, the further left the better. However, I am thankful Rep McClintock because he represents me.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 6:16 pm

    Dee, let me try to understand. McClintock's election counted, but the president's didn't. Let me ponder that for a while.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 6:24 pm

    Dee, reference your previous position that the president should be a leader. Hard to do when on the first day of his Administration, House and Senate Republicans met and declared that the president would be a failure -- and, thus, the Party of No was created. Hard for a president to be effective when the Republicans cut off his legs on the first day. And, please tell me why the House has voted over 40 times to defund Obamacare? Wouldn't just a couple of times been sufficient to tell their base they were opposed to Obamacare? Forty times -- guess the House didn't have anything better to do. Hard workers them.

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  • Oh BrotherOctober 17, 2013 - 6:30 pm

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/

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  • Dee#1October 17, 2013 - 6:37 pm

    Longhofer, good night you are resorting to drivel again. Although I will accept your position the President is no leader. I was parroting your leaders' statement when talking with Republicans he stated "I won.", end of story.

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  • James E.October 17, 2013 - 8:45 pm

    Dee, yes, the president has finally won once he decided to reject extortion. The president is a leader, he just couldn't lead with the Party of No preventing leadership. End of story.

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  • Todd WOctober 18, 2013 - 6:32 am

    You know John that was the same tact taken by the Democratic Party yeas ago when they argued that the Majority of people wanted slavery, so we should keep it. Fortunately, we do not live in a Democracy - Mob Rule - we live in a Republic. I guess that is news to you John. Maybe you, and other Haters, don't care about the facts if they get in the way of your tirade.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 20, 2013 - 8:19 pm

    John, we share a small area of common ground. (damn!) The Tea Party's Prada pick provokes and piques me to a state of ⓟⓘⓢⓢⓘⓝⓔⓢⓢ. Prada - Fifty Shades of Fool.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 20, 2013 - 8:26 pm

    . . . or how about this ~~~ Pied Piper Prada - Fifty Shades of Fool

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 4:59 am

    Watching the agonizingly slow painful death of obozocare is going to be all the more enjoyable simply because of how desperate the garon's of the country are to hang their hat on even one single obama accomplishment.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 5:05 am

    Thanks for such a fine example of Educationed.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 5:37 am

    The latest kick in the teeth to the community agitator is Saudi Arabia rejecting a seat on the UN security council. Just another sign of the obamadestruction that takes place around the globe. The teaparty is garon's lifeline, without them he would have to come up with some other pathetic excuses for obama's endless failures. His pathological obsession reminds me of Chief Inspector Dreyfus in a rubber room with a straight jacket writing Clouseau's name in crayon with his feet in the Pink Panther movies.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 5:53 am

    Today the man-child is going to speechify the stellar, once in a lifetime, vaudevillian comedy act and shining example of what happens when leftists are allowed to touch anything obozocare meltdown. Who will he use for props during his excuse making? Does garon have his official obamakneepads ready?

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 6:10 am

    If the IRS takes 3 years to determine tax status for non-profit teaparty groups, how long will it take them to determine whether or not someone qualifies for an obozocare subsidy?

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  • EvelynOctober 21, 2013 - 7:01 am

    Good question, cookie.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 7:17 am

    Evelyn, did you see my comment about the 7 million people needed to sign up for obozocare to keep it from entering what has been labeled a death spiral? There are specific qualifications to being one of the 7 million. They have to be rate payers without any subsidy who do not consume any healthcare. It is also my understanding that the number changes based on which obozocare policy they purchase. For example, it is 7 million if they all have gold or above coverage. "We need to pass the bill so you can see what's in it", should be carved in stone as the single most idiotic statement ever uttered.

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  • EvelynOctober 21, 2013 - 8:06 am

    Oh well, what the he11

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 6:17 am

    Yale Law professor Dan M. Kahan was conducting an analysis of the scientific comprehension of various political groups when he ran into a shocking discovery: tea party supporters are slightly more scientifically literate than the non-tea party population. When composing histograms of the scientific inference abilities of liberals and conservatives, he discovered that those who described themselves as tea party supporters came out pretty well, based on National Science Foundation standards of evaluation: [snip] Remarkable was the professor's reaction on the Yale Law "Cultural Cognition Project" website: I've got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I'd be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension. But then again, I don't know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party. All my impressions come from watching cable tv - & I don't watch Fox News very often - and reading the "paper" (New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused internet sites like Huffington Post & Politico). I'm a little embarrassed, but mainly I'm just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.

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  • Terry ToddOctober 21, 2013 - 7:20 am

    John, go back and listen to the rhetoric used by both sides during the shut down. Virtually all of the name calling came from the democrats which you have obviously chosen to continue. And for you information, republicans did offer suggestions during the ACA debate. Unfortunately they were locked out of the discussions and amendment process not to mention that the MSM did not report their suggests leading everyone to assume they had none. Also, there are more people who identify with the TP than there are individuals who call themselves liberals.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 7:48 am

    There a signs all over the country of what the grievance industry INCLUDING obama have created. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/brooklyn-youths-attack-couple-racial-attack-cops-article-1.1490901

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 21, 2013 - 7:59 am

    Cookie, Ronald Russo was at fault. 1) He was stupid for honking his horn. 2) He was stupid for getting out of his car.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 8:32 am

    Phil, wouldn't it be profiling to suspect they were wild animals?

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 8:28 am

    The corruption runs so deep in DC that we would need to build dozen's of new prisons if WE THE PEOPLE were caught doing what they get away with. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/21/lawmakers-making-thousands-funding-lavish-trips-from-slush-funds/

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 8:45 am

    He's back from San Fran, It is funny that a group of average American people formed to oppose taxes frightens crazed liberals so much, I guess because most of the Tea Party are employed, pay taxes, and support the traditional values and founding of the country which are complete opposite to liberal values. This must be really frightening considering how far left and how unknown the background and citizenship of their leader and agitator, Ali-Bummer is. The very same person still withholding his records of travel, citizenship, education and visa records. These crazed liberals are so afraid of average Americans, they have to invent comparison to the 1930's German National Socialist Party from the Nazi era, which is a farce considering Ali-Bummer's new brown and green shirt army under the USDA just closed down and occupied many areas of the country never seen before, including trying to lock out our war veterans while holding a rally for illegals on the tyrant's orders. I would say the liberal SEIU and the Ali- Bummer's leftist "navigators" are much more in line with the 1930's National Socialists. These crazed liberals know that the conservative areas of this state are mostly in the rural foothill counties and northern counties with a large GOP/Conservative majority, yet they choose to move here and then complain and blather their misery. They want to know how to avoid conservatives and conservative businesses in the county, there is a simple way, return to your liberal home. Further, the one man Rebellion leader, Senator Cruz, received a historic welcome home with a standing O. For liberals, time to add another state to avoid, in fact, liberals should be limited to and have to live in the large cities they run and bankrupt and are a majority in, those safe wonderful liberal paradise places like Detroit.

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  • VicOctober 21, 2013 - 9:03 am

    Stay tuned: "How to avoid conservatives and conservative businesses in el dorado county." They need to learn that those of us who have fought for and love our country will not stand by and let a small minority group of nut cakes destroy it.

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 9:04 am

    Frank, just take Garon's diatribe as evidence of his and the other Leftists fear of a principled group of citizens striving to regain their freedoms and rights through instituting limited government, free markets, fewer regulations and adherence to our Constitution. It must be frightening to watch the world you help create of oppression and gigantic government begin to fold. Personally I just laughed at Garon's letter because it released the smell of fear of the Leftist community. It is cause for celebration.

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  • VicOctober 21, 2013 - 9:35 am

    "Not fear of the Tea Party, rather it shows contempt."

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  • VernOctober 21, 2013 - 9:48 am

    Appeals to rational thought, facts or evidence gain no traction in brains conditioned to think that reality itself is a threat. What began in a million Sunday schools just produced a 24 billion fiasco to no purpose, diminished America’s standing in the world, and hurt countless Americans. Send the bill to the evangelicals. Without their fictions the Tea Party would not have fond so many willing dupes.

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 9:08 am

    U.S. Code regarding "seditious conspiracy": "If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States,... or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States,... contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both." There is a petition circulating to arrest the extortionists who cost us about $25B, over half a point in GDP growth, 200,000 jobs and forced a two-week paid vacation for hundreds of thousands of employees. This is historically unprecedented folks. While government funding and/or the debt ceiling have been used as negotiating tactics, those have always been about budget numbers and details, not the repeal of established laws that are distasteful to a minority extremist group in one of the houses of Congress. It should speak volumes that throughout this debacle, the ACA gained in popularity and is currently much more popular than either the Tea Party or the GOP.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 21, 2013 - 12:18 pm

    "This is historically unprecedented folks. "(Daniel)~~ How old are you Daniel? Either twenty something or a non-reader of history.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 9:18 am

    Goodness, John Garon certainly gets EDC all riled up. His letter does not show fear of the Tea Party, rather it shows contempt.

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 9:33 am

    When you do things that are contemptible, yeah, that will get you contempt. Tea Party popularity is tanking nationwide, and it was never super popular in this district and county. That's a myth not supported by the last two election results. This is actually a center-right county. Tea Party popularity is an illusion created by exorbitant funding for publicity from oligarchs like the Koch brothers. Zealots are also always the loudest and most visible, which amplifies the perceived popularity of their views. It's a front organization built on propaganda generated by self-serving billionaire oligarchs and ideologues who also happen to profit economically by Tea Party ideology.

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 9:23 am

    Wow Daniel are you reporting from the lawn at Berkeley? SEIU is gathering signatures again? When will the liberals who caused and ordered the shut down be taken into custody, now or next shut down? How about the ones who ordered the USDA into a new green/brown shirt army? This doesn't concern you, right. Bush/Cheney etc. must be involved, right?

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 9:46 am

    Yes, of course, because I don't share your views, I must be an extremist liberal shouting on the lawn at Berkeley. Unbelievable! At first glance, I thought the petition was over the top, but when I read the code and looked at the history of prior debt ceiling and budget showdowns, I do see some validity in the effort. This truly was a dangerous and materially destructive maneuver. Again, using the federal budget and/or credit as leverage for passing (or repealing) established laws is historically unprecedented. Imagine if the situation were reversed and a group of extreme leftists in the House pulled a similar stunt: say to pass gun control laws. Your side would be calling "sedition" much more loudly. Don't forget that among Obamacare defunding and concessions, the House GOP was also asking for new legislation such as approval of the Keystone pipeline. The constitution has a process for legislating and it has nothing to do with taking the global economy hostage. Obama was right to refuse to negotiate. It would have established a precedent that would have threatened the very integrity of our Constitutional Democratic Republic. Even when a group of zealots share your views, you should never advocate for such destructive strategies. Try to see the big picture and the long term.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 10:00 am

    Daniel, 15 of the last 18 government shutdowns, the dims controlled the house. https://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/88297-shock-stat-15-last-18-government-shutdowns-house-democrats/

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 10:38 am

    Did you not read my comment? If you only you were as prolific a listener as a talker. F for comprehension.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 9:35 am

    Frank, I see you are commenting on Mr. Garon's letter. Did you take my advice of a couple of days ago? Fill your tub with cold water, add ice, and get in. After 12 hours, you will be less angry about all the liberals in the world.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 9:48 am

    Lots of examples of being educationed. Thanks Daniel.

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 9:56 am

    Huh? Must be an inside joke.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 21, 2013 - 12:27 pm

    "educationed" (thank you, Cookie) - as in - Even though my sister was educationed at Berkeley she shows amazing potential toward conservatism even while tenaciously holding to certain Berkeleyiteisms.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 10:01 am

    Daniel, it's Cookie's new word meaning something about liberals being evil and I would guess uneducated.

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  • JanetOctober 21, 2013 - 10:14 am

    The technical term for the current Tea-Party's and GOP's basis for governance and policy is a form of what is called (aside from Paranoid Delusion) "True Believer Syndrome."

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 10:48 am

    Hmmm... My initial guess was that it was an oh-so-clever neologism that alludes to the far right's suspicion of and contempt for education and the educated. These rhetorical tricks are quite common as evidenced by many of the posts here. Lots of rhetorical gymnastics, ranging from the puerile ("obozocare") to the sophomoric ("educationed"). It's all founded on the simpleton's favorite tool, the ad hominem. The idea is to turn intellectualism on its head: the under and uneducated are the new intellectuals of the far right.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 10:03 am

    Yes you are.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 10:07 am

    Cookie, play nice. Dee, Markham still hasn't cashed my check. Bad habit I've retained from the Army is that I expect things to happen quickly. Civilians seem to be more casual.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 10:14 am

    It would seem that with such an embarrassing failure of obozocare it must be time to turn the focus on those least responsible for it. It makes perfect sense to the always tolerant never to blame leftists. After all the left has controlled The senate for everyone of the last 7 years, the house for 4 of the last seven years and the White house for 5 of the last 7 years and the destruction they have caused is the fault of a group that didn't even exists 7 years ago. I think Sociologists have a name for such a mental disorder.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 10:16 am

    James, if you expect things to happen quickly, just how impatient have you become waiting on hope and change?

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 10:28 am

    James, I will continue to defend what I hold dear, and you will continue to defend the liberal fringe loon, Garon, which must be a very miserable job, but it is one you relish. He is really a poor misplaced loon who could really be a hero in Berkeley at a hate your country protest with a bullhorn. If you want to be "Garon Light" and his lonely defender, you have done well to deserve it. You two are like the kid at the zoo waving red meat in front of the cages and hoping the bars hold and the cage is tall, then going away and returning for a repeat performance. If you went back home, I guess there would be no fun for you, their values are your values and what could you disagree about? So keep waving the red meat and the lions will keep waiting to see you again.

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  • VicOctober 21, 2013 - 10:48 am

    Although this applies only to your paranormal Frank, it could be applied to your Supernatural beliefs also, since both are just manifestations of the same thing (belief in invisible and undetectable forces in the world for which no evidence exists). Many people in today's population like you Frank grew up in homes with families who were Biblical true believers, bible thumbing NRA types. The Sociology behind the Evangelical group think movement in the USA is terrifying when it is put into the context of History. It is people like the Evangelicals who have been responsible for EVERY moral and ethical failing in history (Yes, even Nazi Germany, Stalin's Soviet Union, and Pol Pot and even George W. Bush.

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 10:41 am

    The leftist fear of the Tea Party is shown by they the language they have used since the inception of the Tea Party. Garon is particularly good at throwing around descriptive phrases such as racists, bomb-throwers, uneducated, neo-fascists, etc. The President has said that Tea Party members are terrorist who must be eliminated as enemies of the State. And James agrees. The illegally use of the IRS to stop conservative groups from participating in the 2012 election is constantly sanction by Leftist commentators. All these names and attitudes are evidence of a deep, visceral fear of a small group of determined, principled citizens who follow the law and work within the system. And that is just funny.

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  • VernOctober 21, 2013 - 10:57 am

    "Contempt:"

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 10:50 am

    Dee, the president never said they are enemies of the state, believe that was my term. And, in my opinion, they earned that title when they went to the brink of a national default. A default which would have caused irreparable harm to our nation. And, guess what, they are going to do it again in Jan/Feb. True faux patriots.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 10:50 am

    The dnc has raised a record amount of money for the month of September in a non-election year. What a coincidence, the regime spent $634 million for a website that doesn't work.

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  • ScottOctober 21, 2013 - 11:07 am

    Thank you John for once again restoring sanity in a very crazy area. If I have to be up here at least I know SOME people are sane.

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  • ScottOctober 21, 2013 - 11:13 am

    And yes cookie I know you don't understand compassion but I do HAVE to be up here. I am taking care of an elderly relative. Otherwise I would be down in the Bay Area where people are not so angry and resentful. And by the way work a lot and don't have time to be blogging on a computer all day.

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  • rodOctober 21, 2013 - 11:24 am

    Garon, I dislike commenting on your tripe, so I won't. It lends a degree of credibility to your trash like a priestly serial pedophile attracts a lot of attentions. The GOOD news. Did anyone notice what really happened in the last couple weeks? As yesterday’s headlines slide into the realm of archivaldom, let’s pause for a moment and reflect. With the talented writers on the MD staff we are fortunate enough to have at a local level, no one mentioned the true achievement of Obamacare last week. For all the division, derision, chaos and burning hair in both houses of congress and especially in the GOP, something finally changed, a breaking of the mold. With our country now facing crushing public debt and economic instability, Senator Cruz talked for a long… long time about “Sam I am and Green eggs and ham”. Putting his political future on the line while most others continue to lean on the tiresome treadmill of partyline politics, Senator Cruz, Magna Cum Laude Harvard Law School graduate reiterated Dr Seuss’ strategy… really? No, what he really did was bring the endless grind of bloated bureaucratic sausage making to a complete halt and illuminated for us all, the trappings of Obamacare. The incredulous accomplishment of democrats passing the 2,700 page incoherent Affordable Care Act, “so we can see what’s in it”, is finally emerging into the daylight. This ponderous document is more than just legislation, its net effect is a new gigantic tax on most working Americans, overwhelming for many, and massive payroll headaches for most businesses. It no doubt has some benefits for a few, but jobs are everything right now and our country just blundered forward kicking a bigger can down the road with Obamacare, a job killer of yet incalculable dimension. We may soon learn what “unsustainable” actually means. But for now, whether you lean Right, Left, up or down and whatever you may think of Obamacare, Ted Cruz stuck his neck out and delivered some rare leadership, unless you call intentional, spiteful closings of federally managed public places for punitive effect, leadership. Admiral Halsey, who shortened the war in the Pacific with his unique brand of leadership once said, “There are no great men, just great challenges which ordinary men are forced by circumstance to meet?” Well if that’s true then Senator Cruz certainly stands tall among a vast echelon of ordinary men.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 21, 2013 - 12:36 pm

    Rod, don your Kevlar.

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 11:30 am

    Vic, Interesting how your liberal blame shifts to fantasy and the same old invented causes. I don't recall the NRA being a part of the shut down, in your mind, as fantasy. it must be. It is like the Tea Party as it is a group of private citizens exercising their rights and people that believe in our Constitution and our founding freedoms so scary to govt. control freaks known as liberals, so it is an enemy of the liberal. You covered the field and show you know nothing of history, yet you believe you do. If you know of a liberal paradise free govt. oppression, free from the GOP, the invention of gunpowder, the NRA, Tea Party, religion and Christians, by all means go there. Cuba comes to mind, the Middle East, or The Mars colony one-way trip would be a good fit.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 12:06 pm

    Rod, I agree with you that Senator Cruz is a great man and I HOPE

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 12:07 pm

    he will be the Tea/Republican nominee in 2016. Please.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 12:09 pm

    OK, I really don't think he is a great man, but I do want to see him run in 2016.

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 12:20 pm

    History forgotten; The six govt. shut downs during the Reagan years caused by House and Senate Dem majorities. How could the country survive? To the brink of insolvency, the billions lost each time by the Dems actions, how was it possible, the difference? Negotiations were made in every case and each side gave as in a functioning democracy. Instead of the Ali-Bummer show which will lead to more trouble and probably planned riots by unpaid SEIU members, also where were the new green/brown shirt USDA armies closing all public/private areas then?. These liberals, the country destroying extremists, were the forgotten cause then and are now, what to call them? The ignorant of history party? How could the Republic endure in the 1980's? Now liberals, back to your weekly reading of Mien Kampf, as your struggle to recall history is beyond written words.

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  • rodOctober 21, 2013 - 12:24 pm

    James, it could be a Rubio/Cruz ticket in 16, good luck with Hildebeast.and a floundering ACA.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 12:29 pm

    As regards the future, the U.S. is becoming more blue by the day. Oh, yes Rubio who will not deliver on immigration and Cruz the rabble-rouser. Hillary will crush the Tea Party candidates.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 12:33 pm

    Phil, I would say that Evelyn is fair to both sides, and not a rigid conservative.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 12:39 pm

    Gotta go do stuff -- later.

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 1:54 pm

    Stop the presses! This just in!... CNN Poll: 75% say most Republicans in Congress don't deserve re-election. Read it and weep. "Six in 10 Americans now believe that the tea party movement is too extreme; only one in four consider it to be generally mainstream." "Only one in five say most Republicans deserve to be re-elected; 42% say the same thing about Democrats on Capitol Hill."

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 21, 2013 - 2:01 pm

    Easy, girl! The spittle behind my monitor is really hard to get at.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 2:55 pm

    Daniel, considering the leftist media did 41 stories blaming the teaparty for the shutdown and 0 (zero) stories blaming the dems. I would say 6 in 10 is a pretty low outcome given all the effort the leftists media put into having everyone blame the teaparty. "Let me be clear"... your polls are a reflection of a tainted media bias. But then again so is everything you believe. Garbage in/Garbage out. (educationed)

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 3:36 pm

    Definition of "leftist media": All media that isn't Fox News or the far right blogs (e.g. Breitbarts) or the angry white males on the AM dial. Yes, those leftist pollsters sure called the last elections wrong didn't they? That's why Romney is president and the GOP holds the Senate too. Oh wait...

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  • EvelynOctober 21, 2013 - 2:07 pm

    . . . and then there's this, Daniel: more people have signed up for a one-way trip to Mars, than have been able to enroll in ObamaCare through the Healthcare.gov interface. (I know this isn't a direct response to your recent post. My only point is that there are multiple perspectives.)

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 3:42 pm

    Yes there are "multiple perspectives," but there's only one set of facts. The perspectives based on faulty logic and made-up facts are simply wrong.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 21, 2013 - 4:10 pm

    Daniel, believes, " there's only one set of facts." Daniel obviously is illiterate in quantum mechanics' "Schrodinger's Cat". The cat can be alive AND dead, Daniel. Google quantum entanglement and have some fun. CAUTION! Looking at the cat can kill the kitty, Daniel.

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 2:15 pm

    And now reporting live from CNBS , "Chris Matthews is reporting he wet his pants again when he heard that." Next Liberal talking point; "We just conducted a poll of active members of SEIU." Ali-Bummer has a 100% approval rating and his ACA health care package is doing great for the two people in Alaska who signed up and will do well for you if you don't need healthcare or your money!"

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  • VernOctober 21, 2013 - 4:17 pm

    Once again Frank your have the credibility of a Tea Party member, you lied: ANCHORAGE—Online healthcare exchanges are a major part of the Affordable Care Act, but in Alaska and more than 30 other states using the federal Healthcare.gov marketplace, website troubles are keeping people from signing up for insurance. Outreach to sign up Alaska’s nearly 140,000 uninsured has been extensive, including efforts by trained healthcare navigators working with the United Way, application counselors stationed at more than a hundred community health centers and partnerships with the Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium. Despite those efforts, by Thursday, outreach officials could only confirm seventy Alaskans had signed up for coverage. That’s in stark contrast to more than 25,000 people signed up in states like New York, Washington, and Kentucky. Alaska Public Health Officials say, “ the number who will enroll will sky rocket into the thousands when the computer glitches are fixed.”

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  • EvelynOctober 21, 2013 - 4:27 pm

    @ 4:25 pm, Vern.

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  • JanetOctober 21, 2013 - 4:31 pm

    “I haven't signed anybody up,” Joan Fisher said flatly from her office at Providence Hospitals in Alaska where she is the lead healthcare navigator, she said she’s spoken with about 150 people since the exchange opened. With Healthcare.gov not cooperating, she hasn’t been able to get anyone fully insured but has over 70 available and ready.

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 2:18 pm

    Wow Rod, just beautiful as well as correct.

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  • EvelynOctober 21, 2013 - 2:25 pm

    Wow . . . things have really picked up in Alaska, Frank. Last I read (yesterday) there had been ZERO successful signup in Alaska.

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 2:44 pm

    Evelyn, I think your right, two was a misquote. The Govt. web-site is not accepting new requests after not accepting previous ones. Although they are warning all in the US and the territories that they have until 12-15-13 to be enrolled, or else! Big fines and the IRS are coming!

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  • EvelynOctober 21, 2013 - 3:11 pm

    "What state hasn’t received any ObamaCare signups?" - HERE - Admittedly this article is nearly a week old, so who knows, perhaps there HAVE been two successful signups in Alaska.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 3:25 pm

    Coming back up from Folsom I was listening to Tom Sullivan and I found out something I didn't know: Ted Cruz is a modern George Washington. Delusion reigns. Has no one on right ever heard of Senator McCarthy? Yes, the George Washington of the 1950s.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 21, 2013 - 4:03 pm

    James, irrelevant trivia. Alger Hiss was, in fact, a communist spy. McCarthy was right about Communist infiltration of the U.S. Can you admit that trivia, James, or have you no shame?

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    Evelyn, only two signups in Alaska? Well, the entire state only has three people, so that's a good signup percentage.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 4:09 pm

    Phil, was Alger on that list he kept waving around? How many commies were supposedly on that list? It's been a long time, but I think he said every commie in the government was on his list. He never showed it, so cannot be sure Alger was on it. Phil, have you at last, no shame? Hey, Alger? Would that be our Pville Mr. Alger? Maybe not, but how come his name is Alger? Commie family connections.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 4:11 pm

    If Cruz, and his followers, thinks he's Washington he should wear a white wig and have his teeth all pulled.

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  • EvelynOctober 21, 2013 - 4:25 pm

    Vern: In this instance, if Frank "lied" then I did as well. I've posted links to two separate sources reporting ZERO signups in Alaska. But perhaps you're correct and signups have zoomed all the way to 75. We're rapidly zeroing in on the necessary 7 million!!!

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 5:07 pm

    Evelyn, they are immune to facts. They don't even believe obama when he had to appear in the Rose garden and admit to the entire country that his signature legislation is a complete trainwreck. It is a mental disease. Notice the tolerance they have for anyone who doesn't share in their collective groupthink. educationed. The Big Tent of leftism. They have the IQ of a houseplant.

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 5:11 pm

    So Vern, apparently you know more then the person in Alaska who said zero ENROLLED several times and you tried to call me a liar for a bogus report you used? is that how you operate? I am not sure what the numbers are as I said, they are all over the place. For you flying off the handle before knowing the facts must be a lifestyle and the facts whenever they are known in Alaska whether 2 or 7 or 70 out of a few hundred thousand eligible whenever they can access the govt. website which is not working must be something very hard for you to take as it is a failure after nearly four years to get the system working and over 670 million spent. The Bummer-Care website, like his ability to lead or govern are equally a nightmare.

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  • VernOctober 21, 2013 - 6:11 pm

    The computers not working tea party clown, kind of like the computer in El Dorado County that the Chinese are fixing for us, its not that the people don’t want to sign up as you insinuate.

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  • rodOctober 21, 2013 - 5:21 pm

    Dee#1, thank ya vera mush... Did you know the acronym for "Cult of the Affordable Care Act " would spell C.A.C.A.?

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  • Acronyms... I love emOctober 21, 2013 - 6:28 pm

    And did you know the acronym for teaparty under republican direction is TURD?

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  • I love em tooOctober 21, 2013 - 6:35 pm

    And repulsive old derelicts=ROD

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 5:24 pm

    Rod, I did not know that but it is certainly appropriate.

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 6:06 pm

    Another Leftist myth busted-------"But University of Virginia Professor Jonathan Haidt’s new book The Righteous Mind doesn’t simply suggest that conservatives may not be as close-minded as they are portrayed. It proves that the opposite is the case, that conservatives understand their ideological opposite numbers far better than do liberals. Haidt’s research asks individuals to answer questionnaires regarding their core moral beliefs—what sorts of values they consider sacred, which they would compromise on, and how much it would take to get them to make those compromises. By themselves, these exercises are interesting. (Try them online and see where you come out.) Liberals don’t know what they don’t know; they don’t understand how limited their knowledge of conservative values is. But Haidt’s research went one step further, asking self-indentified conservatives to answer those questionnaires as if they were liberals and for liberals to do the opposite. What Haidt found is that conservatives understand liberals’ moral values better than liberals understand where conservative are coming from. Worse yet, liberals don’t know what they don’t know; they don’t understand how limited their knowledge of conservative values is. If anyone is close-minded here it’s not conservatives. ". Andrew G Biggs, book review

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 6:15 pm

    Unintended consequences--------GOP Congressman no longer open to immigration deal, citing Obama's winner-take-all approach to governance. Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX), the vice chairman of the House Judiciary Committee’s subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security, has changed his mind and now opposes any efforts to grant amnesty to America’s at least 11 million illegal immigrants. Poe said his stance is a specifically a result of President Barack Obama’s style of dealing with congressional Republicans during the recent government shutdown and debt ceiling battles. By Matthew Boyle

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  • rodOctober 21, 2013 - 7:03 pm

    #1, the GOP has the 'right' direction but in the wrong lane for some time i.e. McCain, Romney... for all their conservative qualities (including integrity) a rarity in today's admin but it's not enough. Perhaps a course change is in order... amnesty is now the BIG item. Maybe make use of the open border democrat strategy against dems and work out a welcome mat somehow. Times are changing.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 7:22 pm

    Dee #1, I'll go you one better. Anti-leftists know more about leftism than leftists do. Which why it so simple to get them to fall back on the last remaining excuse they have, "hate". We have a government By the people, For the people and Of the people but anyone who would dare to suggest the government belongs under the control of the people is accused of hating government. If you don't agree with them on anything they accuse you of hate. I know their evil, demeaning, destructive, anti-human ideology better than any of them ever will. "How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." -- Ronald Reagan

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 7:30 pm

    Cookie, sometimes my wife says she hates something. I remind her that she doesn't hate, she just strongly dislikes. Hate is a toxic word. Now, a comment about Senator Cruz and the Tea Party -- I have great faith in our future because America is too great a country to be harmed by little men. We have seen many little men throughout our history, and they never succeed over the long term. Soon Cruz, and the Tea Party will be history.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 7:36 pm

    The first clue to the limited intellect leftists is the fact that they aren't observant enough to ever question how every last one of them share the identical groupthink and opinions on every subject. If they were bright enough to question it, the first thing they would discover is they didn't "reach" any of their conclusions or opinions they have. The were "lead" to them. It also explains why they lack the ability to defend what they believe and accuse everyone of hate. They cannot trace any discovery or process involving any independent thought that is always involved in learning. They were simply trained to believe certain things so they do. No intellectual curiosity, no inquisitiveness, no discernment, no critical thinking. They cannot defend what they believe because they don't actually know why the believe it. It is also why they become so defensive, accusatory and belligerent when anyone asks questions they have never asked or even had the curiosity to ask. It truly is a mental disease.

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  • cookie65October 21, 2013 - 7:45 pm

    "In New York, one of only 16 states that has its own exchange, not one person had succeeded in using the site to enroll in a plan as of Friday." Maybe its Fox's fault or am radio. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-deems-health-glitches-unacceptable-gop-calls-obamacare-doa-article-1.1491281#ixzz2iPn4ML7l

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 8:05 pm

    Cookie, relax. The Administration will bring in some computer whiz and it will be good to go in 30-45 days.

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  • Terry ToddOctober 21, 2013 - 8:17 pm

    45 days! it is already the 21st of Oct. In 45 days it will be Pearl Harbor day (Dec. 7). That leaves just 3 weeks to sign up with Christmas in the middle. It it is a crush now wait till then.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 8:20 pm

    Mr. Todd, I'm sure they can extend the deadline if need be.

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  • Terry ToddOctober 21, 2013 - 9:49 pm

    Isn't that exactly what the Republicans asked for?

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  • rodOctober 21, 2013 - 8:36 pm

    Sebelius said on CNN, "Must have 6 million signed up by March 1 for ACA to float"... good luck with that. Obamacare will float on 100 million fines though... 2014 lookin good.

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 9:07 pm

    Anyone want to chat about anything?

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  • James E.October 21, 2013 - 9:12 pm

    OK, I can take a hint. Tomorrow.

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 9:15 pm

    Cookie, love your quote. I hadn't heard it before. James, keep whistling in the dark. We are here to stay.

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  • MartinOctober 22, 2013 - 5:36 am

    Instead of cutting our own throats during the sequester we should of cut foreign aid 23 billion dollars, or foreign military assistance 14 billion dollars. Our president only did what he did to piss off the public for his own benefit, if he was a leader he would have worked with the right to straighten out this health care debacle, they have an agenda and that is to destroy GOP and they are doing a good job through deceit, lies and whatever else they can come up with. I suggest that everyone start saving seeds and start raising chickens; they are going to need them.

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  • NancyOctober 22, 2013 - 7:24 am

    Mr. Garon, have you ever been to a Tea Party meeting?

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 7:30 am

    Nancy, if I might speak for Mr. Garon -- no, he has not nor will he ever attend a Tea Party meeting.

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 7:34 am

    Martin, we do not give foreign aid to be nice guys. Foreign aid is given in our own interests. Our dollars are given in return for something that benefits the United States. It is not just a freeby give away.

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  • MartinOctober 22, 2013 - 8:42 am

    James! Foreign aid to nice guys? hummmmmm, may be a couple but most of the foreign aid has not helped our interest .

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  • LarryOctober 22, 2013 - 7:48 am

    Your policy on Letters to the Editor states that Political submissions will only be published on Wednesdays and they will be limited to 325 words. Mr. Garon's delusions were 523 words of ruining my Monday? Didn't he just get back from France? Who let him back in? Did Napolitano personally sign off on his re-entry before heading off to Berkeley?

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  • VernOctober 22, 2013 - 8:01 am

    I’m amazed by people like Frank the tea bagger who is surprised that a popular website has bugs on the initial launch, guess Franks been living under a rock for the last 10 years. Healthcare.gov received more user account requests in 24 hours than Twitter got in 24 months Also we know Alaska is opting out of operating any exchanges which were designed too facilitate its population signing up for health care . “Susan Johnson, regional director with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, said that glitches in the system were anticipated, but the "great demand is overwhelming." Frank, that means a lot of people are interested in health care coverage. The states that had their own Web sites are working like a charm. Alaska could be too if it weren't for the short-sightedness of their Republican leadership which holds majorities in both houses of the state legislature. Looks like your going to lose on this one also Frank, almost a perfect record: The election twice, your credibility after costing or nation billions in a failed shut down attempt, efforts to kill the Affordable Health care Act, soon to be failed tea party. Get the feeling your in a small group of losers Frank?

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 8:03 am

    Martin, you are exactly correct. obama targeted the teaparty thru his brownshirt SS at the IRS because the left is terrified of them. This letter from the crayon king is just more evidence of the radical lefts obsession with "astroturf". They cannot survive as a movement without the constant expansion of government. Anyone who resists that constant expansion of government is an enemy of the state and labeled as a hater. The establishment republicans are no threat to the radical left, it is those outside the establishment that must be destroyed by the party of tolerance and diversity. Here is piglosi offering her braindead response about the national debt. If you replaced her noggin with a fruit basket you could get an answer that made more sense. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/88726-cbs-17-trillion-debt-adding-trillion-dollars-year/

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  • Hee HawOctober 22, 2013 - 8:09 am

    Laugh time, that thing about being a "popular" website, Vern. Sort of like calling the IRS "popular".

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 8:12 am

    The root cause of the Titanic maiden voyage of obozocare is not the "glitches" it is the "glop". The left in their infinite desire to control everyone in existence has created regulations to massive for even supercomputers to digest. The issues in America's healthcare system that needed to be addressed and corrected could have been written on the back of a napkin. Instead we have obamacare. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/obamacare-website-crashes-caused-red-tape-article-1.1492471

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  • VernOctober 22, 2013 - 8:18 am

    Village clown: What do you call a web site that has more hits than it can handle nation wide? Popular maybe?

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 8:22 am

    obozocare's nonfunctioning, unusable websites can't be a shock to anyone. What planet are you from? Look at the emergency broadcast system. Driving down the road with the radio on with perfect reception. When the signal gets interrupted by the emergency broadcast system and a message comes across that is unrecognizable. That is the difference between the private sector spending their money and the government spending other peoples money. Anyone who expected anything different needs a check up from the neck up.

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 8:28 am

    Cookie, and the back of the napkin would read, "Medicare For All." Hmmm, Democrats take back the House in 2014 and a bill is submitted, due to the computer programming failure of Obamacare, giving us Medicare For All. I love it when a plan comes together. And, Cookie, you wouldn't have to miss a beat from complaining about Obamacare to complaining about Medicare For All.

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 8:32 am

    Comeon Vern, we all know you can be more desperate to make excuses for this catastrophe. This is a government boondoggle on steroids. This is a shining example of what is wrong with the entire paradigm of leftism. Government CANNOT do anything efficiently. This is what happens when a bunch of pseudo intellectual theoreticians from academia get to implement their version of utopia. A colossal failure.

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 8:46 am

    obozocare gives us all an insight as to why federal workers need union protection. And why the leftists need to continually expand the layers of government. Besides the vehicle they provide for laundering taxpayer money to the leftists they also provide fodder to protect those in charge. Look at how the obama administration used those layers of fodder to protect itself in the IRS scandal.

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  • Dee#1October 22, 2013 - 9:39 am

    Lose your coverage, unable to study alternatives available, unable to sign-up on site and probably unable to afford the new premiums anyway. The new, better system for medical insurance. Praise be to Obama.---------- "Health plans are sending hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters to people who buy their own coverage, frustrating some consumers who want to keep what they have and forcing others to buy more costly policies… Florida Blue, for example, is terminating about 300,000 policies, about 80 percent of its individual policies in the state. Kaiser Permanente in California has sent notices to 160,000 people -- about half of its individual business in the state. Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual market customers, while Independence Blue Cross, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent."

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 9:47 am

    Dee, in your opinion, why is, for example, Florida Blue dropping 80% of their policies? This is not a trick question. I'm sure there must be some financial benefit to Florida Blue.

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 9:47 am

    Imagine being one of the left's useless idiots having invested all that emotion and religious fervor into hope and change only to be faced with the inescapable reality that your utopia has been dashed on the rocks of incompetence. I imagine it must be how an expectant father would feel the instant he realizes his first born isn't his. But being the libtards that they are, they will jump right back in the sack with those who disgraced them. Loyalty not unlike those who followed Jim Jones.

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  • Dee#1October 22, 2013 - 9:51 am

    James, merely because they cannot provide those kinds of policies under the new regulations placed by Obamacare. Most of these policies tend to be bare bone policies that meet the needs of the policy holders at an acceptable price.

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 9:55 am

    James, you really don't know? obozocare is a complete takeover of private healthcare. Those who are being cancelled have plans that don't qualify under the NEW regulations. The new regulations require customers to buy coverage for things the don't want and don't need. Any existing policy that does not include those required coverage's are being cancelled. Did you really believe the liar-in-chief when he told the American people they could keep the healthcare they LIKED? What else do you believe that he has been lying about since before he took office?

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 10:01 am

    Dee, Cookie, so those were bare bones policies that would not be permitted under Obamacare. Understand. Cookie, no, I haven't much inside knowledge on the ins and outs of Obamacare, as I have Medicare and want everyone to have Medicare. Please recall that I have always wanted Medicare For All. I believe that Obamacare is a massive giveaway to Health Insurance Companies and not Socialized medicine as you like to call it. Our only socialized medicine in America is the VA system. VA owns the hospitals and the doctors all work for the VA.

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 10:26 am

    James, it isn't "barebones" policies that are being cancelled. Many are quite adequate and comprehensive. But if they don't include coverage for addiction and other types of obscure ailments they get cancelled. People who don't do drugs don't need medical coverage for drug addiction. 11.5 million words in regulations James. The arrogance and pompousness of leftists in black and white.

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 10:58 am

    The lefts war on women. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/154000-fewer-women-held-jobs-september-female-participation-labor

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  • Dee#1October 22, 2013 - 11:00 am

    Yes sir, that was a terrible idea. Laughing,--------WHITE HOUSE OPENS DOOR TO OBAMACARE DELAY - As the federal government teetered on the brink of shutdown at the end of last month, the White House and Senate Democrats flatly refused a Republican emergency spending bill that would have kept the government open but delayed ObamaCare’s requirement that individuals purchase health insurance by March 31 or face a fine. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid responded to a GOP counteroffer by saying Republicans had “lost their minds.” But after an epic failure of a launch for the new health insurance entitlement and with the partial shutdown over, “delay” suddenly isn’t a dirty word anymore. With many of those subject to the fine unable to sign up due to manifold botches in the enrollment process, Democrats are warming up to the idea.

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 11:02 am

    "Last week Canada’s Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally ignore a Toronto family’s decision to keep their near-dead husband and father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed that, under the laws of Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, a group of government-appointed adjudicators could yet overrule the family’s choice. That tribunal, not the family or the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug. In other words: Canada has death panels." http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/10/canada_has_death_panels_and_that_s_a_good_thing.html

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  • James E.October 22, 2013 - 11:13 am

    Medicare For All. Let's cut the crapola and just do it -- those health insurance CEOs can go to community college and get retrained (George Bush's advice to those out of work).

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  • cookie65October 22, 2013 - 12:05 pm

    This is why Jefferson was a Deist. http://www.reddit.com/r/EarthPorn/

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 22, 2013 - 12:40 pm

    Another failed govt. program is unmasked and the liberals are desperate to blame someone for their failure that will increase premiums to most who enroll about 50% to 300%, and for the many who are now forced out of their old plans they will pay for this mess or the IRS will take it from them. Ali-Bummer is desperate to blame this failure on a computer program glitch and tech issues as he takes no responsibility for anything, it is really about costs that are real. The GOP warned all about Bummer care and a bill passed by one party without knowing what was in it. Might, is the key, be able to get rid of it if the GOP takes the Senate and restore health care to the free market and be able to put it back like it was at least or improve it with some changes as proposed to this obvious disaster, but at what cost? How many billions lost for hiring hundreds of thousands of "navigators" and this roll out failure? This Monopoly money and welfare check party of big govt. liberals have created so much new debt, so many unemployed, so many new people on entitlements and millions dropped out of the work force added to the failed huge liberal cities before this Bummer-Care disaster, that it will take generations to repair and pay off.

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  • Frank DrebbinOctober 22, 2013 - 2:50 pm

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/22/jon-stewarts-scathing-obamacare-critique-is-as-ruthlessly-honest-as-it-is-funny/ And this is from the ultra liberal Daily Show...

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  • Little RickyOctober 22, 2013 - 8:35 pm

    According to the latest Gallup survey, 58 percent of Americans favor legalizing marijuana for recreational use. Gallup says the poll culminates a year of “unprecedented success” for marijuana advocates and is almost certainly the harbinger of future legalization efforts. Support for legalization has climbed more than 10 percent in the past year alone. “Whatever the reasons for Americans' greater acceptance of marijuana, it is likely that this momentum will spur further legalization efforts across the United States,” Gallup says in its analysis of the poll. And as Gallup points out, the 58 percent support for legalization is a stark contrast to the group's first legalization poll in 1969, in which only 12 percent of respondents said they favored making marijuana legal. Gallup also found that 38 percent of respondents said they had personally tried marijuana at some point.

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  • kggOctober 22, 2013 - 9:15 pm

    john wrote: "The Teahadist Party will go the way of its ideological twin, the Knownothings whose extremism carried the seeds of its own destruction." kgg writes: crossing my fingers that the folks who support the tea party agenda realize they are just puppets of the koch brothers.

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  • MartinOctober 23, 2013 - 6:16 am

    GEORGE SOROS is a Hungarian-American business magnate, investor, and philanthropist. The billionaire industrialist William I. Koch has donated about $5 million ... Like his brothers David and Charles, who own Koch Industries Inc. One is for jobs and one is for money; Guess which one is for jobs?

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