Wednesday, April 23, 2014
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Income gap

EDITOR:

As a Christian, I find it disheartening to see the huge income gap between the rich and the poor. This income inequality shows a lack of compassion for the well-being of our neighbors in need. My loving parents taught me the Golden Rule: love your neighbors as yourself.

To help narrow the huge income gap between the rich and the poor, I believe we need to raise the minimum wage so our neighbors can have more income to be able to afford to pay their rent, buy food with cash instead of food stamps, shop at local mom and pop stores on Main Street, and eat at local restaurants. The extra money they earn would go back into the local economy, which would increase demand for services that could spur businesses to hire more workers to satisfy and maintain customer satisfaction.

Jesus spent his ministry preaching and helping the poor. As Christians, we need to follow in his footsteps by loving our neighbor, empathizing with their plight and giving them the income they deserve to be active members of our community.

STEVE CHRISTIANSEN
Sutter Creek

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  • osogatoFebruary 04, 2014 - 10:49 am

    Thank you for your letter. I don't know what is wrong with so-called "Christians" who don't want to help the poor. I just don't get it.

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  • jodyFebruary 04, 2014 - 9:29 pm

    what's wrong is that they aren't real christians. "faux christians". like the network.

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  • cookie65February 10, 2014 - 5:03 am

    I have a question. What does "giving them the income they deserve" mean? LOL!!! Give a man a fish, he will eat for a day. Since when did Christianity become an endorsement for reaping without sowing?

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  • JohnFebruary 10, 2014 - 10:19 am

    Mr. Christiansen: I think Cookie65 gives the answer you seek when you ask what's wrong with christianity: selfishness. An increase in the minimum wage is not enough; we need what Europeans mandate: a living wage, which is not uniform and varies from country to country and region to region. Most of all, however, we need higher taxes on capital gains of the wall street banksters and fraudsters who play with our money at no risk to themselves. We need to ask ourselves: why do some hedge fund managers make over $1 billion a year? And what do they produce? Nothing of value except turmoil in the markets.

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  • cookie65February 10, 2014 - 12:43 pm

    John, please share with me your knowledge of theology. It shouldn't take more than a couple of sentences. Share with me how you were inspired by scripture to covet and envy what other people have and how you were given divine inspiration to proclaim what people deserve and don't deserve. And by all means share with me how the redistribution of wealth thru confiscation is a biblical principal. I'll wait.

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  • Deuteronomy 14:28-29February 10, 2014 - 1:03 pm

    At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year's produce and store it in your towns, so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

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  • Deuteronomy 15:7, 11February 10, 2014 - 1:05 pm

    If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land.

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  • Leviticus 23:22February 10, 2014 - 1:06 pm

    When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God.

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  • Psalm 37:25-26February 10, 2014 - 1:07 pm

    I was young and now I am old, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children begging bread. They are always generous and lend freely; their children will be blessed.

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  • Proverbs 14:31February 10, 2014 - 1:08 pm

    He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

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  • Luke 14:13-14February 10, 2014 - 1:12 pm

    But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.

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  • 1 John 3:17-18February 10, 2014 - 1:13 pm

    If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.

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  • cookie65February 10, 2014 - 1:49 pm

    Everyone of these are carried out by Christians everyday worldwide. But they don't answer my question. This false BS that Christians are unkind, selfish, greedy is total bunk. They are the ones sharing what they earn. The left wants to share what others earn. What do these have to do with the minimum wage? The same passages you are quoting also speak of being prepared for difficult times. How does being $17 trillion in debt relate to that. Wages are a function of supply and demand. Want wages to go up? Eliminate government.

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  • Gaspen AspenFebruary 10, 2014 - 11:23 am

    Minimum wage was never designed to live on. It was for kids home on school breaks. Teach these low wage people how to fish as someone posted earlier.

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  • osotiredFebruary 10, 2014 - 11:59 am

    Who is going to teach them how to "fish?" Who will pay for it? If they already come from a low-income family, how do they pay for college or trade school? Minimum wage should be the minimum required to live on in each state. Many adults are trying to live on minimum wage. It is no longer just kids working summer jobs. Universal health care would help, too. I don't know why it is OK in your eyes for rich people to rip off taxpayers on their way to more riches, but you see helping the poor as some sort of sin. If the poor had more money, the economy would be booming instead of falling apart. Those rich billionaires are not only not creating jobs, they are not helping the economy by spending their money.

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  • T69807February 10, 2014 - 10:21 pm

    How much moral justification is there for raising the minimum wage law? None. If you think otherwise, ask yourself this. Who is entitled to claim that they’re being moral here? Not the people who support the law -- they’re funding their “compassion” with other people’s money. Not the people who are paying for it, either. They’re coughing up the money only because if they don't, the government will threaten them with fines and imprisonment. It’s a deluded sense of morality that claims that anyone is doing the Lord's work by coercing someone else into paying a minimum wage.

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  • cookie65February 10, 2014 - 12:38 pm

    They must not teach economics in school anymore.

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  • P1 and P2February 10, 2014 - 8:06 pm

    Kookie, you do know that economics is not physics, right? Theories only, with most recent studies concluding raising the min. wage is actually good for economy.

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 5:32 am

    Did you attend the nancy pelosi school of economics? Where $1 in unemployment returns $2 in economic growth? If government mandates, regulations and spending are good for the country where is the utopia? Do you ever question what you are told to believe? Apparently not.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 1:07 pm

    At the end of the Civil War Pres. Lincoln said in response to the DEBT owed to the country from the South going to war against the Nation: "I hold that while man exists it is his DUTY to improve not only his own condition, but to assist in ameliorating [to make more tolerable] mankind."..... What? The South didn't have to pay??? What a bunch of takers.... What? Lincoln didn't learn economics like Cookie???

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  • cookie65February 10, 2014 - 2:22 pm

    http://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/blog/11308073/why-a-minimum-wage-hike-is-a-bad-idea

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  • Mark 10:21February 10, 2014 - 1:10 pm

    Jesus looked at him and loved him. "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 2:01 pm

    "The essence of any struggle for HEALTHY LIBERTY has always been to take FROM some man or class of men the right to enjoy power, or wealth, or position, or immunity, which has NOT been earned by SERVICE to his or their fellows......"... Republican Pres. Theodore Roosevelt, Aug 31, 1910

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 2:04 pm

    "At many stages in the advance of humanity, this conflict between the men who possess more than they have earned and the men who have earned more than they possess is the central condition of progress"

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  • cookie65February 10, 2014 - 2:24 pm

    http://spectator.org/articles/57426/each-according-his-delusions

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 2:45 pm

    "The absence of effective State, especially, national, restraint upon unfair money-getting has tended to create a SMALL CLASS of enormously wealthy and economically powerful men... We grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it honorably obtained and well used." (Roosevelt)

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 2:50 pm

    "The monarchical tyranny (King) and aristocratical tyranny (Elite 1%) are independent of the people; wherefore in a "constitutional sense" they contribute NOTHING towards the freedom of the state..." Thomas Paine in "Common Sense"

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 2:59 pm

    The aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government.... ... A cabal to protect the wealthy will find their way into every branch of the legislation to protect themselves.... Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, Oct. 28, 1813.....

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  • T69807February 10, 2014 - 10:37 pm

    Did Roosevelt say that before or after he threw the Japanese into internment camps?

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  • T69807February 10, 2014 - 10:48 pm

    Minimum wage advocates proudly cite studies. Meanwhile, Chili’s, Chevy’s, and California Pizza Kitchen are replacing minimum wage servers with iPad-like devices that let customers enter their own orders. No studies required. In fact, employers everywhere are relying more and more on technology as the government makes entry-level labor more and more expensive. Did higher minimum wage advocates not see this coming?

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 10, 2014 - 2:59 pm

    Detroit: What it's like to live in the most famous bankrupt city in America http://tinyurl.com/nedcaqa

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 10, 2014 - 3:05 pm

    Same link as last: But, she added, “I am not only worried for us in Detroit, I am worried for other cities because we are the blueprint for how this is going to go down in other cities. We aren’t the only ones who have problems.”<--- the blueprint for smart growth.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 3:19 pm

    Detroit Bankruptcy -- Corps trying to block "unsecured" creditors from discussions..... People = Unsecured creditors......... (http://www.detroitnews.com/).... Aristocracy is fulfilling ...... --Thomas Jefferson's, .... -- John Adams's ...... -- Thomas Paine's........ -- Pres. Lincoln...... and -- Pres. T. Roosevelt's predictions.....

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  • Oh BrotherFebruary 10, 2014 - 3:31 pm

    www.autonews.com/.../gm-says-it-will-pay-barra-14..

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  • Oh BrotherFebruary 10, 2014 - 4:43 pm

    GM expects to pay CEO Mary Barra $14.4 million in '14

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 10, 2014 - 4:11 pm

    Let me see if I can translate "Oh Brother's" link..... GM CEO makes LESS than previous CEO.... and that means?..... or is... It's good there is an Income Gap???? ..... or maybe it's......It's good that other people don't get paid like a woman???.... or how about......It's good that GM is doing well? and she isn't????...... I still agree with many of our great leaders.... The aristocrat's play havoc with our Govt...... (Gov. Snyder--hires an Emergency Manager --Bankruptcy Law firm lawyer-- paid More than 1/4th of tax-base for the city ..... to sell off the city to Corps)... and the taxpayers pick up the bills.... (P.S. Voters voted that law out... and Snyder brought the Em. Manager back.... which hasn't saved ONE single town.)

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  • Oh BrotherFebruary 10, 2014 - 4:46 pm

    Dink Lane - my reason for posting that link is simply that my opinion is that is an obscene amount of money to pay anyone for anything.

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  • James E.February 10, 2014 - 4:19 pm

    Driving up the hill this afternoon I listened to Hannity. Hannity said that President Obama has increased the debt $8 trillion dollars. This seems strange because the government can only spend money that has been appropriated by the Congress. Isn't it the Congress that has increased the debt $8 Trillion dollars since the president took office? Can the president spend on his own? Help me understand Hannity, who says such bleeding raw meat comments to his base.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 10, 2014 - 4:33 pm

    Hey James......Then do ya remember this bleeding raw meat comment???.....The same rules should apply.... .......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U

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  • James E.February 10, 2014 - 4:37 pm

    R.J., just give me a short version of what lies hidden in that site.

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  • James E.February 10, 2014 - 4:41 pm

    R.J., the same rules always apply. But, before we move on to your site, do you dispute that Congress is the only branch of government that can appropriate money.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 10, 2014 - 4:46 pm

    Well, that's supposed to be what the role of Congress's is in government.....Sometimes it gets side-stepped with a pen and a phone...........

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  • James E.February 10, 2014 - 5:23 pm

    R.J., not sure what you mean by being sidestepped by a pen and a phone?

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  • Truly FreeFebruary 10, 2014 - 9:32 pm

    The Four Freedoms were goals articulated by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt on January 6, 1941. In an address known as the Four Freedoms speech (technically the 1941 State of the Union address), he proposed four fundamental freedoms that people "everywhere in the world" ought to enjoy: 1.Freedom of speech 2.Freedom of worship 3.Freedom from want 4.Freedom from fear

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  • Progressive 20:14February 10, 2014 - 9:34 pm

    And when the Progressive saw the wounded man he had compassion on him. So the Progressive waited until the next traveler passed by, then he threatened the traveler at gunpoint until the he paid for the man's care. Then the Progressive went on his way saying, “Lo, see how moral I am.”

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  • conservative 101February 11, 2014 - 10:20 am

    And when the Conservative saw the wounded man he had no compassion for him. So the Conservative waited until the next traveler passed by, and seeing that he was too a Conservative, laughed with hatred for the wounded man, and offered no help for truly the man's condition must be self inflicted. Then the Conservative went on his way saying, “Lo, see how moral I am.”

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  • Courtney StoddenFebruary 10, 2014 - 10:30 pm

    Morris honey, I did this for you. Please, Moe, take me back. Courtney Stodden shows off her latest cosmetic surgery

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 5:18 am

    Just once I would like to have a conversation with someone on the left who doesn't base everything on emotion. Just ask them, they have the market cornered on compassion, that being said they attempt to invalidate any facts, reason or logic because if you don't agree with them you are guilty of not having any compassion. Doesn't matter if you are talking about global warming, education, welfare, crime, unemployment, minimum wage, always an emotional response. How do you debate emotions? You don't. They are not interested in solutions, because solutions typically require rolling back some of our nanny state government, and not increasing it. They're not interested in results, you can't talk about the results of what they believe, only their stellar, morally superior intentions. They will even invoke Jesus, but only in cases where they can use the false doctrine of Jesus being a socialist. At what point has raising the minimum wage accomplished what it was sold as? Never. At what point will it? Never. This is just more feel good, instant gratification, I am compassionate, morally superior tripe. Want to make a real impact on the lives of people? Eliminate the additional $2/gal taxation on gas everyone pays. But leftists aren't interested in making a real difference. We are at a point where virtually 50cents of every dollar goes toward taxation. Who then is the real criminal in poverty? Even on the topic of minimum wage some braindead psychopath throws out the class warfare of some hedge fund manager. What on God's green earth does a hedge fund manager have to do with minimum wages or the generational poverty of all the places leftists have had total control over for the last 40 years? NOTHING. They are just demented, running on pure emotion. Wages, like everything else in economics are based on supply and demand. dinky comes on here and frequently mentions the 600 people somewhere applying for 25 positions. What does it do to wages when you have 92 million people out of the work force and very few available jobs? It drives them down. A large supply of workers and a slight demand of positions. It isn't rocket science. Throw on top of that the left and the big government establishment repubs want to add 20+ low wage workers (amnesty) into the mix. Why any leftist who thinks wages are already too low would support that is beyond me. But that is leftist logic. Another unintended consequence of leftist theology and the feel good minimum wage debate is at some point the minimum wage will make automation cost effective. When that happens no more jobs for the kids. A robot will do it. It won't call in sick, and it doesn't need healthcare, There is also the issue of education, the taxpayers are being taken for a ride thanks to the union run schools. Spending hundreds of billions every year and producing kids what aren't qualified to push shopping carts at walmart. So the lefts answer to that is throw even more money at it. Start indoctrinating them even earlier with head start, and "educate" them even later by creating basic job skills training for all the post high school graduates. In the real world you don't get a gold star or a participation ribbon for showing up. You don't get $10/hr. because you "deserve" it. You get it because you earn it. Even our own useless local media has a story just this morning on how leftist education is harmful to kids. The thing I am looking forward to is the impact common core has on a populace who already can't engage in a rational debate. Just wait until that programmed loonacy teaches our kids that everything in life is based on emotion. It should get interesting. http://www.kcra.com/news/why-employers-say-millennials-cant-get-a-job/24401230

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  • One Pissed Off AmericanFebruary 11, 2014 - 5:47 am

    @T69807, February 10, 2014 - 10:37 pm...........Although your comment is not even remotely germane to topic, I do have to add Germans and Italians were also interned, and unlike the Japanese (remember the Pearl Harbor thing?) never received reparations. I guess you shed no tears for the civilians at the Japanese internment camps? I suppose you have never heard of Santo Tomas or Los Banos? …............Some internees at the Baguio camp were jailed at the Bilibid Prison in Manila--which meant very harsh conditions. Medical conditions became more severe and food became even harder to obtain. Actual cases of starvation, not just malnutrition occurred. There was no longer garbage at the camps. Some internees were shot for foraging outside the camps. Instances of cruelty were reported. A Lt. Konochi in particular behaved savagely. Very few U.S. Red Cross parcels got through. Medical supplies were exhausted (December 1943). [Cogan, pp. 177-206.]..........................The plans for the interned were to be killed, but not for our code breaking leading to the interned being rescued at end of war...................................Watch/read “The Empire of the Sun”.....................Read Captured: The Japanese Internment of American Civilians in the Philippines, 1941-1945 by Frances B. Cogan...............How about you shedding a tear for the civilians at St. Stephen's College, Hong Kong which was being used as a british hospital on the front line at the time... where the Japanese soldiers slaughtered 170 recuperating soldiers and some of the hospital staff. The eyes, ears, noses, tongues, or limbs were cut off on many victims. Seventy of the soldiers were killed with swords while they were lying in bed. The hospital’s seven nurses were raped, sometimes while lying on top of the bodies of murdered British soldiers. Several of the nurses were also slaughtered, and one of them almost had her head severed. All these actions were in complete violation of the 1864 Geneva Red Cross Agreement (which was the beginning of the establishment of the International Red Cross) regarding the treatment of prisoners-of-war. Now cry me a river about the American “Club Med” camps.

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  • Even More PissedFebruary 11, 2014 - 6:03 am

    Any tears for the dead civilians at the Nanking Massacre?

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 6:14 am

    The teen unemployment under the leftists regime utopia of hope and change is now over 20%. There aren't even any entry level jobs for the high school seniors so I can see how increasing the minimum wage is going to open up opportunities for all those college grads still living in mommy's basement. My question is are the smart enough to vote for substance over symbolism next time around? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/teen-unemployment-207-more-three-times-national-average

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  • dinky hwyFebruary 11, 2014 - 7:05 am

    dink, as of yet the United States of America does not have a king. The 1% of the highest wage earners are not an aristocracy. The US is one of the only countries in the world where someone can come from an impoverished childhood and rise to the 1%. An example of this would be Jeff Bezos, founder and CEO of Amazon. Born to an unwed teenaged mother, his step father was an immigrant from Cuba. Now he is wealthy and creating hundreds of thousands of jobs. Then on the flip side you have the Menendez brothers. Life in prison for murdering their parents for the money. This is still the only place in the world where someone can achieve their dreams. But also a place where the higher up the latter you climb the harder you land when you hit bottom. Life is cruel and unfair... so what? "Do or do not, there is no try" Yoda

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 11, 2014 - 8:51 am

    Billionaire Boys Club Murder Case Goes to Jury April 17, 1987|LOIS TIMNICK | Times Staff Writer They said that this case inspired the Menendez brothers. "in which the body of admitted con man Ron Levin has never been found " <---Ronnie Levin was a friend of my mothers--he stayed with us off and on...it had been rumored there was a contract out on him--when he disappeared.. It was odd to see this reference of the Mendez Brothers Dink---brought all sorts of childhood memories back. Levines parents also had money--owned two stores on Hollywood blvd. http://tinyurl.com/moqa5lw So much for childhood memories. BBL

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  • Robert D NollFebruary 11, 2014 - 8:40 am

    Heinlein did

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 8:50 am

    Health-Law Mandate Put Off Again - No Fines for Most Employers Until 2016 as Firms Pressure White House in Wake of Troubled Rollout

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 9:02 am

    I did not put this in link form. The site did it. It also abolished my comment that I included. That's ok though the message is still the same. KING BARRY does what ever he chooses with complete impunity.

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  • Whodunnit?February 11, 2014 - 10:10 am

    Obama did it.

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 8:56 am

    The two-faced leftists would be hurling themselves out of high rise windows it anyone on the right were acting with this level of contempt for the American people. I am waiting for the likes of pelosi to come out and blame obamacare on the repubs. We had some twit on here the other day do it. Right after she accused everyone of being a racist. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-s-new-delay-employer-mandate-violates-plain-language-law

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 9:06 am

    Not long after the abomination known a ocommcare was forced on the American citizens I started posting on line that the first 2,200 pages were just the index. Sometimes I don't like being right. http://freebeacon.com/report-avalanche-of-regulations-still-to-come-under-obamacare/

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 9:13 am

    If you got a dollar in your pocket, the left wants it. And they will stop at nothing to get it. They sell it as compassion. http://www.myfoxny.com/Story/24682709/gym-memberships-add-obamacare-tax

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  • James E.February 11, 2014 - 9:39 am

    Cookie, of course Obamacare is the fault of the Republicans. Born by the American Enterprise Institute, raised in its youth by Mitt, and then written by Republican health/pharma lobbyists when it came of legal age. Hahahahahahaha, yep, the fault of the Republcians. Because remember what Obamacare is -- not socialism, but a big payoff to big health/pharma. Now that we see what it is, dump it and go to Medicare For All.

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 10:42 am

    That's it James, I just figured it out. The evil, nasty, racist repubs forced obamacare on America because they want obama to fail. Call pmsnbc, I have a headline for chrissy mathEew.

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  • jodyFebruary 11, 2014 - 10:30 am

    The repugnicants have a new health care plan ready to put forth. it is EXACTLY the same, word for word as The Affordable Care Act, only the title is RYAN CARE.

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  • James E.February 11, 2014 - 11:01 am

    Cookie, yes, of course they want President Obama to fail, while at the same time enriching big Health/Pharma. It's a win-win.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 11, 2014 - 11:10 am

    James......Ya gotta admit, you do have more spin than a Maytag dealership......Anyway.... Seems some of you people need to lighten up a bit , so here's a little humor for ya..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qigkcZChpjQ

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  • James E.February 11, 2014 - 11:46 am

    R.J., not sure that site was funny. More like heart attack funny.

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  • teabaggerFebruary 11, 2014 - 3:44 pm

    Is it dain bramage funny James?

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  • cookie65February 11, 2014 - 5:07 pm

    You might like this one James. Although the one with the elevator is something one of my kids would do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu3qh57Zl44

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  • James E.February 11, 2014 - 6:36 pm

    Cookie, I tried that site but couldn't get there.

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