Wednesday, April 16, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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Is McClintock a Republican or a Libertarian?

EDITOR:

Is Congressman McClintock a Libertarian, as John McCoy posits in a recent letter?

Libertarianism claims that the very existence of a government is anathema to personal liberties and invariably leads to the loss of freedoms. Strangely enough, McClintock’s working life has been spent entirely as a government bureaucrat, either elected or appointed. If he is a Libertarian, then Mr. McClintock’s been sleeping with the enemy and living a lie.

McClintock’s votes always go against the middle and lower classes; there is not a social program he does not want to abolish, including Libertarianism’s two biggest bêtes noires: Social Security and Medicare. However, when corporate interests are at stake, McClintock’s Libertarianism transmogrifies into “Corporatism.”

Corporatism is not big government, it’s huge government. The definition of “Corporatism” comes to us from Mussolini. When asked by an Italian journalist to define “Fascism,” Mussolini answered that “Corporatism” more accurately described his philosophy. According to Il Duce, the future of Italy lay in the fusion of state with corporate interests, each working hand in hand, freed from the interference of unions, an independent press and free elections. On his first day in power, Mussolini abolished unions and jailed, or killed, its leaders. On the second day he abolished all independent newspapers, and on the third day he abolished free elections. Corporatism is very efficient which is why Mussolini made the trains run on time.

Corporatists like McClintock have done their utmost to destroy unions and make voting as difficult as possible. The press has morphed into corporate shills, like CBS, NBC, etc. or into organs of undisguised propaganda like FOX News. We’re anesthetized by Tea Party and Octomom circuses, and shows like “The Biggest Loser” and “Duck Dynasty.” As a result, we are the biggest losers as oligarchs like the Koch brothers seize the levers of power.

The current scenario is the Gilded Age redux. The new robber barons are bankers, hedge fund managers, casino magnates, named Walton, Koch, Mars, Adelson, etc., but their goals are the same as their predecessors’ who operated unchecked between the end of the Civil War and FDR’s election.

JOHN GARON
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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 20, 2014 - 7:28 am

    Evelyn and cookie, it seems as though you two (Evelyn in particular) have inspired another groaner. ~~~ Corporatism ~~~ Mussolini. ~~~ Fascism ~~~ Poor Tom! Back in the day when I was an avid participant at the pioneering internet blog site, FREEREPUBLIC.COM a rule of the road was established. "The first to NAZI loses". Though John has not actually uttered "NAZI" he at least has "chalk on his shoes". (Please, no penalty for mashed metaphor) ~~~LINK - EvelynFebruary 19, 2014 - 11:24 am

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 9:22 am

    Amen Mr. Garon, amen. I'd write an ode to Tom, my carpetbagger representative, if I knew how to write an ode. Maybe Phil could help me with writing an ode.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 20, 2014 - 9:27 am

    Colonel "ode" example ~~~ LINK - Ode To Billie Joe

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  • Paddy O'furnitureFebruary 21, 2014 - 7:10 am

    My question: is the Groaner a moron or an imbecile?

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  • Dee#1February 21, 2014 - 8:24 am

    Garon, you are full of it. OpenSecrets.org tallied the top donors in federal elections between 1989 and 2014. Koch Industries -- privately owned by the Evil Koch Bros -- is on the list, to be sure, but doesn't appear until the 59th slot, with $18 million in donations, 90 percent of which went to Republicans. Read more: http://tiny.cc/ei3mbx

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  • Dee#1February 21, 2014 - 8:28 am

    Unions have given hundreds of millions in the same time frame---So who occupies the 58 spots ahead of the Evil Koch Bros? Six of the top 10 are ... wait for it ... unions. They gave more than $278 million, with most of it going to Democrats. These are familiar names: AFSCME ($60.6 million), NEA ($53.5 million), IBEW ($44.4 million), UAW ($41.6 million), Carpenters & Joiners ($39.2 million) and SEIU ($38.3 million). In other words, the six biggest union donors in American politics gave 15 times more to mostly Democrats than the Evil Koch Bros. Read more: http://tiny.cc/ei3mbx

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  • Dee#1February 21, 2014 - 8:31 am

    As far as other donations--Although it pains me to be fair, I should point out that the Koch brothers also contribute tens of millions of dolalrs to the GOP cause indirectly through their indpendent committees Americans for Prosperity and others. Also to be fair, I should point out that unions spent a half a billion dollars in such indirect spending in the 2012 election cycle. Read more: http://tiny.cc/ei3mbx ________ Tens of millions as opposed to 500,000,000. If donations into the political arena are evil, then just look to the unions.

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  • MOUNTAIN DEMOCRATS NEW, WHISPER PROGRAM."February 22, 2014 - 12:12 pm

    Me and Tom: Be careful or you too will become victim to the MD "whisper program," where they expose your name, handle and what things you say right or wrong about McClintock and those who serve him to one of their republican operatives who in my case whispered in a close associates ear. This new MD program suggests ZERO CREDIBILITY among at least one person at the Mountain Democrat...

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  • Dee#1February 20, 2014 - 9:40 am

    Rep. McClintock, we attended your townhall last night and are gratified that you are still fighting for decreased spending, controlling the EPA and recognize that environmental policies have lead us to the drought we are facing.thank you for your service. We will backing you this election cycle.

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  • FrankFebruary 20, 2014 - 10:05 am

    yuup me as well anyone seen the affects UAW had in Detroit, why they lost thier bid to unionise VW in Tenn, and i used to be union got tired of shotting my foot and having ten miles to walk

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 9:48 am

    Dee, if what you say is true (and I have no reason to believe otherwise), that I say go unions, GO. Outspend those Republican donors. After all, politics has become money. To the richest goes the prize.

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  • Dee#1February 20, 2014 - 9:55 am

    James, I agree that each entity that wishes to participate in the political arena should be allowed that opportunity. However, if you and Garon are going to whine about the Koch Brothers, cheer the IRS for shutting down the participation of conservatives while ignoring the Leftist groups, just makes you despicable.

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 9:56 am

    *** then

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 10:17 am

    Dee, did in fact the IRS not check any leftist groups? One hundred percent rightist groups and not one single leftist group?

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  • Dee#1February 20, 2014 - 10:47 am

    James, 83% of those groups chosen for review,100% for audit. Now nit pick what you want but it is government power designed to eliminate conservative opposition. And if this thuggery were being used against Leftist, I would be just as upset because I believe in equal freedom for all

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 20, 2014 - 10:55 am

    James.....I'm sure you already know the answer to that question.............Over the two years between April 2010 and April 2012, the IRS essentially placed on hold the processing of ANY applications received from organizations with "Tea Party," "patriots," or "9/12" in their names........ While none of these organizations' applications were denied during this period, only 4 were approved, the rest left to hang in limbo forever without approval....... During the same general period, the agency happily approved applications from several dozen liberal-leaning organizations whose names included terms such as "progressive," "progress," "liberal," or "equality." .....Point being, if it was the other way around during a Republican Administration the left would be screaming bloody murder, not calling it a phony scandal.......

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 11:32 am

    Dee and R.J., as usual, each side has their own facts regarding the IRS 'scandal." The IRS singled out approximately 400 applications and the Tea Party groups were 1/3 of that total. Who were the other 2/3? What we have here is groups affirming to the IRS that they were 'social welfare' groups to gain tax exempt status to avoid paying taxes on their activities. The Tea Party is not a social welfare group, yet they want to be approved as such to avoid paying taxes. Therefore, the IRS was within the law to challenge the 400 applications -- prove you are a social welfare group or you will be denied and you will have to pay taxes. I want the IRS to continue to question any group (liberal, conservative, or whatever) as to their activities if they apply for tax exempt status. I think the problem is that the Tea Party is unhappy and whine about being questioned as to their activities. Suck it up Tea Party.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 20, 2014 - 11:42 am

    James ........Yes, our facts are bound to differ since I get mine from a middle of the road encyclopedia named Wikipedia, and not a political propaganda extension of the White House named MSNBC

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  • TurnoutthelightsFebruary 21, 2014 - 8:08 pm

    RJ........if you get all your info from Wikipedia you are in some serious trouble..........

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 20, 2014 - 11:44 am

    Link.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_IRS_scandal

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 12:24 pm

    R.J., Wiki is not usually a good reference because anyone can drop in and modify/add to the sites. That being said, the Wiki site you noted said that liberal and occupy groups were also groups that were audited and, in the end, only one group was denied tax exempt status and it was a progressive group??? If that is true, then no Tea Party group was denied. Sounds like a faux IRS scandal with the Tea Party whining about the inconvenience of having to explain their activities.

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 12:26 pm

    I now withdraw to enjoy my lunch. Later.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 20, 2014 - 12:55 pm

    James.......You say, Wiki is not usually a good reference because just anyone can drop in and modify/add to the sites???........Wiki is already widely known to be a left-leaning site .....So you must mean like someone who might modify/add Wiki that is not left-leaning enough???......AND.....Unlike the Liberal organizations, those hundreds of conservative organizations that were banished into limbo by the IRS without official approval or denial means they have no right to appeal, so their just done.......That's the big difference and It was all just a clever ploy used by the White House.........So, like I said, if it was the other way around during a Republican Administration the left would be screaming bloody murder, not calling it a phony scandal....... I now withdraw to make some cup-a-noodle soup and watch some T.V. ......Starting with the FIVE, then Have Gun Will Travel........ Back in a couple days......

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 20, 2014 - 2:08 pm

    Oh God, I've got to laugh.... "Wiki is already widely known to be a left-leaning site."........ There you go again..... a Liberal behind every door..... in every closet..... under every bed..... and the poor 'Right-wing-nuts' can't believe anything that doesn't come with the special "Glenn Beck" handshake...

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  • Paddy O'furnitureFebruary 21, 2014 - 7:09 am

    No thinkum dinkum, you might be the only person on the planet who does not know that Wikipedia leans hard to the left. Again proving yourself to be the second stupidest poster on this forum.

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 7:36 am

    Paddy, how can one be more stupid than the other when there is no decipherable difference between them? Unless one of them brushes their teeth with a toilet brush and the other one doesn't.

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  • Alfred E. NeumanFebruary 21, 2014 - 8:12 am

    "A Liberal behind every door" and 'Right-wing-nuts'? Like Jimmy E. this Dinky guy hears only what he wants to hear and can never mentally absorb anything except leftist B.S. If Dinky finds profiling by the IRS funny then chances are he was a giggling idiot to begin with.

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  • DinkFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:32 am

    "Profiling by the IRS"...... Asked to qualify as a 501(3)(c)..... Is asking to NOT pay taxes..... Tea Party Groups don't want to pay taxes...... That is NOT profiling..... But if you want to believe Darrell "Grand-Thief-Auto" Issa..... do it...

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 20, 2014 - 2:03 pm

    correction -- Corker fought FOR the Koch Brothers...

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 20, 2014 - 2:25 pm

    John: Back when Republicans weren't playing "I'm further Right than you" for Ayn Rand and the Cato Institute, A Republican ....... Theodore Roosevelt said in his 1910 speech .........."a POWERFUL federal government could regulated the economy and guarantee social justice." ...... He was talking about Utility companies should NOT and could not be allowed to hold power and water from the American People for PROFIT..... With McClintock, with every bill he has INTRODUCED (5 so far)......... calls for Kern County Farmers have PRIORITY and we have "Junior Water Rights." ...... But these Wing-Nuts who believe a "Liberal is hiding behind every door" will NEVER challenge their "R" person.... and eventually we will be rationing MORE than 30% so McClintock's buddies (who gave him MORE $50,000 in campaign $$$) can SELL your water for their profit..... Oh, yeah, they'll just Keep voting "R" without thinking..... McClintock is counting on it...

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  • James E.February 20, 2014 - 7:00 pm

    I departed and didn't have a chance to comment on Wiki being a left leaning site. I have never sensed Wiki being left or right. When I have read Wiki the thought never entered my mind -- appeared neutral to me.

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 8:31 am

    James, rachel maddow and pmsnbc seem neutral to you.

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 5:25 am

    Like everything else in mother goose's world, his view of corporatism is upside down. http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/corporatism.htm

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  • Me and TomFebruary 21, 2014 - 5:40 am

    Get it straight, McClintock doesn't even understand the terms. McClintock stands for nothing.

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 6:48 am

    I found dinky and mother goose's solution to those of us who are opposed to their tyrannical ideology. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-unrest-riot-police-sews-protesters-mouth-shoemakers-thread-1437335

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 7:33 am

    Here is corporatism. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/michelle-obama-young-people-are-knuckleheads-which-why-they-need-obamacare_782766.html#

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:03 am

    Paddy, Wiki leans to the left? Please give some examples of this lean.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:08 am

    You see, I'm always willing to learn from my friends on this site.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 8:13 am

    Sure, James ~~~ left wiki ~~~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:37 am

    Cookie, you have no way of knowing if I think Rachel/MSNBC are neutral. If you do have a way of knowing tell me. But, the question is not Rachel/MSNBC, but Wiki learning hard to the left. What is the basis of that opinion? Some examples please. Somehow, I wonder why, the topic changed from Wiki to Rachel/MSNBC. Could it be because no one can come up example of the hard left leaning?

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:40 am

    Dee, those two comments are from yesterday. Repeating them for emphasis?

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:44 am

    OK, let's recap: Wiki learns hard to the left but no examples to educate me. The president is a sub-human mongrel, but no one can define the terms or why they apply to the president. Anything racial going on here?

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 9:08 am

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_movement

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  • Cookie65February 21, 2014 - 11:21 am

    http://tiny.cc/2tbnbx

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:56 am

    Hmmm, well, none of us are sub-human -- we aren't chimps or apes. We are all human beings (apparently except the president). And, we aren't mongrels (offensive term for a person of mixed descent). That doesn't apply to us because we are all 100% pure pedigree white hard working patriotic Tea/Republican Americans. USA, USA!

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 9:15 am

    James, I have illustrated sub-human for you a couple of times now. Just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean they aren't accurate. It is sub-human to deny people their God given right to liberty. The entirety of leftist theology is sub-human.

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  • PatriceFebruary 21, 2014 - 7:24 pm

    Cookienoname, really, this is what you eat? How convenient for you. You are very entertaining. "It is sub-human to deny people their God given right to liberty. The entirety of leftist theology is sub-human."

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 7:32 pm

    Patrice, your derision of cookie's victory over cancer by mocking Cookies survival diet of Ensure makes you every bit that which you pretend to condemn. Pathetic, Patrice. You ARE what you condemn.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieFebruary 22, 2014 - 4:41 am

    Phil -- By that logic, cookie is a leftist/progressive/socialist/communist/nazi. That fits the theory that cookie is really working for the Clinton machine by attempting to convince moderates that the right is unhinged and dangerous.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 22, 2014 - 6:31 am

    Ahh! Kirk, I see how you have received that interpretation of my diagnosis of Patrice. My emphasis should have been on "YOU" rather than "are". Try this, Kirk". YOU, Patrice, are what you condemn. Had I been more specific with my diagnosis would it have spared you your confusion, Kirk? I'm skeptical. . . . BTW - GOOD MORNING, Kirk!

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  • cookie65February 22, 2014 - 7:32 am

    "By that logic", obama would be a champion of middle class expansion and prosperity.

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  • PatriceFebruary 22, 2014 - 8:57 am

    Dang, Mr. Veerkamp how did you come up with this? I wasn't referring to anything to do with Cookienonames past illnesses (which I know nothing about) or Ensure. I was referring to his Feb. 21, @ 9:15a statement. Find something to do, sir.

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  • PatriceFebruary 22, 2014 - 1:37 pm

    Fickle Mr. Veerkamp, by stating "this is what you eat" was referring to his eating, consuming the definition of "sub-human" for his convenience. Understand now?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 22, 2014 - 1:42 pm

    Sure. Whatever.

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  • Robert D NollFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:47 am

    killing for god or country,how noble

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 8:56 am

    (With apologies to Jim Riordan, et al) WHAT'S WRONG WITH WIKIPEDIA? - HERE

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:00 am

    Wikipedia Bias: HERE

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:10 am

    Whatever else may be said about Wikipedia, it's fairly profitable. In the last two years reported profits (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc) were $9.7 million and $10,7 million.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:22 am

    Evelyn reports, " In the last two years reported profits (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc) were $9.7 million and $10,7 million. " But the Wikimedia Foundation is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt non-profit. Are you saying that the IRS ought to be interested, Evelyn?

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:28 am

    Phil: That info. came from their IRS 990.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:34 am

    Evelyn, link for the 990, plz. "Profit" = tax obligation. Are you equating income with profit?

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:19 am

    Phil: More exactly, it would have been REVENUE less EXPENSES. (Profit was inexact / misleading) In the case of Wikimedia, REVENUE = $39,702,445; EXPENSES = $28,964,052.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:57 am

    Cookie, so I just defined the terms sub-human and mongrel for you. You can return to Rachel/MSNBC.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 8:59 am

    Evelyn, thank you for that site explaining why Wiki is not a good source.

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:04 am

    James: It's not so much that it's NOT a good source. Often it is useful. But, like most other other sources, information needs to be weighed. As Wikipedia themselves say, its entries are crowd-sourced and therefore (my version) neglect or edit out dissenting opinion.

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  • Alfred E. NeumanFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:07 am

    James E. You say no one can come up example of Wiki's hard left leaning, yet everyone on the planet seems to know it except for you and no one's job to educate you. Plus, that's not what Mr Carter wrote. Mr. Carter wrote "our facts are bound to differ since I get mine from a middle of the road encyclopedia named Wikipedia, and not a political propaganda extension of the White House named MSNBC". (You have admitted in the past that you watch that wacko Rachel Maddow.) At no time did Carter say Wiki was "hard left leaning" or liberal site. As always, you create your own false argument, take it to an insane extreme, claim victory then run to lunch.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:08 am

    Wiki is at least worth what we pay. Crowd source can be a lynch mob. Free petition collectors vs paid petition collectors? . . . . We shall se.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 9:10 am

    Evelyn, your site, Wiki bias, involves the fights on climate change and evolution-intelligent design as they appear in Wiki. From that, I can infer that Wiki leans hard to the right and not to the left. And, it appears my Tea/Republican friends will not be coming up with examples of how Wiki leans hard to the left. Easy to say, but tough to come up with specific examples.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 9:12 am

    OK, well, guess I've made some new Tea/Republican friends today.

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:20 am

    Alfred: True, RJ did not incorporate the word HARD when commenting: Wiki is already widely known to be a left-leaning site.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 9:24 am

    Neuman, no Mr. Carter didn't say it, Paddy said it. Ah, I also watch Fox News, and listen to Rush, Hannity, and Tom Sullivan. So, where does that leave you regarding Rachel. Every one on the planet knows Wiki is hard left leaning (everyone on the planet meaning Paddy and Neuman) but Neuman cannot give me some examples of the hard left leaning. And, in your honor I will eat my lunch today while at my computer so I don't miss a chance of revealing you are a dipwad. Neuman, you are so easy.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 9:28 am

    Phil, yes, the IRS should check out Wiki especially as they are hard left leaning. If they want the tax break, they should be required of prove they are not engaging in politics by leaning hard to the left.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 9:29 am

    *** to

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:29 am

    Does that mean that the non-profit paid taxes on profits?

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:33 am

    Phil: Tax Information for Charities & Other Non-Profits - HERE

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:44 am

    Evelyn, I am having difficulty pulling up the IRS 990 for Wikimedia Foundation, Inc . You seem to have solved the puzzle. Favor PLEASE? The link?

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:22 am

    GuideStar.org: HERE (register to use)

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 2:59 pm

    Eve!yn, why do you think these tax shelters are the favorite of G-5 leftists? Do a little peek-a-boo into the clinton foundation and the shelters Warren Buffet and Bill Gates have set up. Billions in sheltered money. They could pay off the debt of many nations with what the avoid paying thru shelters yet our friend dinky is pathologically obsessed with the Koch brothers. But his level of knowledge ends at what ever the groupthink narrative is. Look at the billions overseas in tech companies like apple who refuse to repatriate it because of our insane corporate taxes.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 9:37 am

    No Cookie, the term sub-human was directed towards the president. So, you agree then he is an ape or a chimp. Sub-human is not a form of government which you use as a diversion from admitting that you agree with Ted that the president is an ape or a chimp.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 21, 2014 - 9:41 am

    Well, morning folks.........Man-o-man, how I do love starting a good "Donnybrook", then just taking a seat in a tree and watching it unfold!!!...........Anyway, It's not hard to find out if Wiki is slightly on the left, just go to the Wiki Biography on Barack Obama and it discusses in detail his early childhood from when his parents met in 1960 to 1994 when Obama first served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago............. Then, Wiki completely skips 1995 when Obama accepted the nomination and ran as a candidate of a Marxist political party called the New Party, then jumps ahead to after Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996...........That would not happen on middle to right sites like conservapedia, so like I say, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Wiki is middle to left on info........... http://www.conservapedia.com/New_Party

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 9:58 am

    Noll, as usual you make vague comments. Are you saying that our service members in Iraq and Afghanistan who killed for God and Country are not noble. Those who go to the front to prevent the enemy from sticking a bayonet in your stomach. I'm thinking you are not very noble, as in Noll not Noble.

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  • Robert D NollFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:10 am

    so very grateful we are not speaking Vietnamese

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:02 am

    R.J., then in the spirit of Wiki, go to that site and include your version of the missing year. Wiki admits that there site is often incomplete and welcomes amendments.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:03 am

    *** their

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:13 am

    Tom DeLay says that God wrote the Constitution (being God, he/she must have written it in a nano-second). Jerry Boykin says that when Jesus returns he will be soaked in blood and carrying an automatic rifle -- so he recommends you go out and buy an automatic rifle as it is biblical. The nutso conintues, as they lean hard to the right almost to the point of tipping over.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:17 am

    Oh, Mr. Noll, so you only refer to those who served in Vietnam. Yes, Vietnam, the conflict you missed. Clue us in -- boil on your butt, bad knee that got better in January 1973, or just a coward who could have enlisted to serve your country. Mr. Noll, not noble but sad example of the Tea Party patriot.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:21 am

    Mr. Noll, coward in war and coward on this site making vague comments about me but not have the gonads to say it outright. Oh, wait maybe he wasn't a coward, hard to be a soldier with a massive carbuncle on your butt (carbuncle, a series of multiple boils in one location). Also, know as the Rush and Noll disease.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:23 am

    And, no, Mr. Noll, I didn't leave any children in Vietnam. That was a past vague statement of yours. Just grab your gonads and be a man.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:26 am

    Evelyn, I don't know anything about non-profits, so this is not a trick question (as if I would ask Evelyn trick questions), but what happens if a non-profit makes more than expenses? What happens to that extra money? Do they somehow plow it back into the non-profit?

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:34 am

    James: Non-profits come in a variety of sizes, shapes & colors. At last count there were over 1.6 million of them. I really do not have an answer that would satisfy everyone, and to tell you what I really think of many of them would be inflammatory. But the short answer is that "profits" get plowed back into their work, whatever it may be. "Profits" (see my 10:19 am are not available for disbursement.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:54 am

    James, in the case of Wiki's $10,738,393 "residual after expenses" I hazard this guess. The server farms will be replaced, updated and pampered. The employees' Obamacare packages will eat the rest.

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 11:42 am

    2 non-profits: (1) The United Nations, and (2) ICLEI

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:35 am

    Thank you Evelyn.

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  • Alfred E. NeumanFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:39 am

    Noll is a member of the Tea Party? What's sad is James E. continuing to making insane conclusions from zero facts, trumping up those harebrained conclusions then arguing about them with himself. Noll did touch a nerve. Is it lunchtime yet?

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:45 am

    Neuman is back spewing his BS. Neuman want to share my lunch with me?

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  • Robert D NollFebruary 21, 2014 - 11:06 am

    Neuman,do you like scrambled eggs,milk toast,and a cold can of Ensure?

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 3:08 pm

    Hey robert, some people are alive today because of insure. My wish for you is you never find out why.

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 3:11 pm

    Ensure*** when it is the only nourishment you can keep down you don't care how it is spelled.

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  • cookie65February 22, 2014 - 7:44 am

    robert, another thing about Ensure is depending on what your regiment is you cannot drink it cold. You can't even pick it up if it is cold. Thank you though, for expressing even better than me what tolerant and compassionate understanding looks like from the open minded left.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:47 am

    What? Noll isn't a member of the Tea Party? Sure hard to tell. How about you Neuman? Are you a grand wizard of the local Tea Party Patriots? You sure sound like it.

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 3:24 pm

    No James, noll is a wizard of smarts and beacon of tolerance, open mindedness and diversity, just like you and mother goose. By the way James, SUB-HUMAN is the arrogance it takes to feel qualified to strip free people of their God given liberties. The worst form of tyranny..... “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C.S. Lewis

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:51 am

    Neuman, I forget, did you agree that the president is sub-human (Ape or chimp), and that he is a mongrel? Wade on in. Give us the benefit of your character.

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  • Alfred E. NeumanFebruary 21, 2014 - 10:55 am

    Sure James, how will your crow lunch be prepared today? Crow Marsala, Crow Stew? I'm out of here, had enough fun for one day.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:56 am

    Phil, you just went above my level of Wiki expertise.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 11:03 am

    James, re Wiki "residuals", you've, "been bested again.(?) Not hard for me to do."

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 10:57 am

    Neuman avoids and sneaks out the back door as he has been bested again. Not hard for me to do.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:05 am

    Phil, unlike some, I've never claimed I know everything. And, yes, when I don't know something it is not hard for you to best me.

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  • Alfred E. NeumanFebruary 21, 2014 - 11:21 am

    Take a good look at this blog. James E. is responsible for well over a third of the posts just on this thread alone, and has posted at least 5X more than anyone else here. Most of his posts advance an argument due to unfounded trumped up conclusions he makes and many of his posts profess how he's bested someone as he's running away. Could he be just a sad, horrible little man in need of constant attention? I think so.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:07 am

    Phil, are you stepping in for Noll and Neuman in their absence?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 11:09 am

    James, Wiki weather ~~~ Feb 26th through March 2nd 70%, 30%, 70%, 60%, 20% chance of rain with refreshing winds blowing right to left.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:07 am

    If so, restrict yourself to their topics and not things I don't know.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:13 am

    Noll, another vague comment or is it a comment directed towards me. If so, for your information I do like scrambled eggs, but have never had milk toast or Ensure. Now, when I'm 90 I might do Ensure, but will never have milk toast (sounds gross). Now, I assume old people have milk toast because they don't have any teeth left. But, happy to let you you know Noll, I have nine dental implants (the cost of a new car in my mount) and will continue to get more implants if needed, ergo there is no milk toast in my future. Probably in yours.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:15 am

    Phil, we need a good slow moving warm front that takes several days to get across our region. Pray for warm fronts.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:18 am

    Noll remains me of a smarmy little man who hides in the shadows and occasionally whispers some innuendo directed at someone, but not having the nerve to say it outright. A sad example of the EDC little men.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 11:20 am

    James, warm, cold or somewhere in-between I'll take it all ~~~ heavy precip WITH snow level above 5,000 ft

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 21, 2014 - 11:31 am

    Phil--thank you for the 5000 level request :)

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:32 am

    Neuman, you snuck back in the the back door again. Lunch in about 30 minutes. Glad you are back to display your nipwad comments. If you just stayed away, readers would forget that you are in the 6th grade. What do you want to drink with lunch? Water, milk, ice tea, or perhaps coffee? I could also get you a beer if you want.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:33 am

    Mr. Boehner said in 1996 that he would commit suicide rather than having a clean vote on a rise in the minimum wage. Wonder how he feels in 2014?

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 11:42 am

    Neuman, I'm going to have a sandwich and a small green salad for lunch. Would you like the same or I could make you some milk toast (assume it is a piece of toast in a bowl of warm milk to make it soggy). Sorry, but no Ensure in the house. Neuman, you know it is an honor to have lunch with me, either in my home or on the computer. A honor given to only a few.

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  • James E.February 21, 2014 - 3:31 pm

    Sure Cookie, sure.

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  • cookie65February 21, 2014 - 4:12 pm

    Eve!yn, speaking of sheltering tax money... The compassionate left is doing what they do while telling the dumbdown masses how much they care.... http://www.kcra.com/news/us-attorneys-office-expected-to-announce-sen-calderon-charges/24602444

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  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2014 - 4:23 pm

    . . . Only the names have changed.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 5:05 pm

    Cookie, I have replaced your post to evelyn. Your long URL (link) was shoving the comments of page. ~~~ Eve!yn, you'll appreciate this. Is ADHD a condition diagnosed/invented for the benefit of the union run school system? http://tiny.cc/yprnbx

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 21, 2014 - 5:06 pm

    cookie, here is a handy tool for shortening links. ~~~ http://tiny.cc/

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  • James E.February 22, 2014 - 8:38 am

    Stay calm and carry on.

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  • James E.February 22, 2014 - 12:23 pm

    So they will whisper my real name and that I believe Tom is a carpetbagger? I've been found out.

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  • kggFebruary 22, 2014 - 1:43 pm

    john asked: "Is McClintock a Republican or a Libertarian?" kgg answers: neither, he is an opportunist.

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  • KellyFebruary 22, 2014 - 3:41 pm

    Mr. Neuman I think you are very rude and cowardly. Which doesn't surprise me. I think you are very disrespectful to James and by god I think he has earned our respect. For what he has done in his career and how he composes himself on these threads. Maybe you're just jealous IDK

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  • Eldorado Co.February 22, 2014 - 5:14 pm

    Kelly's posts are always a joke and always will be . Nothing to add just a very disturbed SOB

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  • WHO IS KELLY ANYWAY?February 22, 2014 - 8:25 pm

    This evening at a fundraiser it was suggested to me that Kelly is really Jack Sweeney’s daughter in-law who they gave a job answering phones at ASM Bigelows Placerville office.

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  • KellyFebruary 22, 2014 - 9:23 pm

    wow I am being talked about at a fundraiser, as Diva Dog says "hit a nerve" No folks just a lone business owner who thinks all Tea Heads are in dire need of a good massage. Waaaaayyy to paranoid and uptight. Relax take a chill pill and thank god that Hillary will take care of you next.

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  • COMING SOON SO YOUR COUNTY, "TEA PARTY CIRCUS."February 23, 2014 - 7:18 am

    DON’T MISS THE STAGE EVENT OF THE YEAR, coming soon to your county, "POLITICIAN HONORS VETERAN WITH DEDICATION." From the celebrated imagination of Tom McClintock comes a powerful reworking of one of the classic political theatricals of our times about a politician talking a good game on veterans and turning their back when it matters most. He chronicles the hopes and fears of our times demonstrating that the real horror of veterans is found not in monsters, but within the human psyche of those who claim to care the most. Coming soon to your county, produced and directed by Assembly Frank Bigelow...........

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  • "TEA PARTY CIRCUS, COMING SOON TO YOUR COUNTY.February 23, 2014 - 7:27 am

    to your county

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