Wednesday, April 23, 2014

John Garon’s Tea Party


John Garon’s liberal rant against the Tea Party and the GOP reminds me of something Ronald Reagan said, which was basically that liberals weren’t ignorant, it was just that they knew so much that wasn’t so.

Mr. Garon calls the Tea Party undemocratic because of the government shutdown. Looking back only as far as the 70s, Mr. Garon must have thought that Tip O’Neill and the Democrats were evil incarnate for the 12 shutdowns that happened during that Democrat speaker’s reign.

Now that we are past Mr. Garon’s ignorance of history, let’s focus on his ignorance of the Constitution. Despite the rant of unconstitutionality that Mr. Garon puts out, even Democrats didn’t try to make the false argument that the shutdown was unconstitutional. Mr. Garon asks, where in the Constitution does it say that you don’t have to submit to a law you don’t like? Really, Mr. Garon? Why don’t you send that line to Mr. Obama? He tells the entire government to ignore laws he doesn’t like.

Take immigration, for example, where he told the ICE people not to enforce sections of the immigration law. And how about Obamacare, where he grants exemptions and changes effective dates, like the employer mandate, with the stroke of a pen like a dictator. It doesn’t say in the law that he can do that, he just does.

So, Mr. Garon, if you want to talk about adhering to the Constitution, try looking in your own backyard.


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Discussion | 20 comments

  • Rodney StanhopeOctober 23, 2013 - 5:43 pm

    Thank You George! This one needed to be addressed! I normally just ignore Garon and his trivial rants, but you wrote a great response!

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  • James E.October 23, 2013 - 6:49 pm

    Ronald Reagan, wasn't he the guy who raised taxes? He wouldn't be able to join the Tea Party today because of his tax sins, and Mr. Alger seems to have forgotten that. And, oh, doesn't President Obama just rile up Mr. Alger? Must be something about the president???

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  • MorrisOctober 23, 2013 - 8:12 pm

    Mr. Alger: In order for a rebuttal to establish some basis as an effective counterpoint, one must A. Provide point-by-point response(s) to each item of contention and B. Establish clearly defined links that reconcile and prove-up your point to established basis in fact; e.g. citing chapter and verse from counterpoint to said references. For example: A = 'I have the right to own a firearm'. Where 'A' is fully supported and verified by 'B' = 'This right is specifically outlined within the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution; being fully detailed writhin section XYZ as 'insert supporting verbiage from the amendment for your point here'. ....Unfortunately, all we seem to see in the rebuttals you take time to prepare is something akin to an elementary school playground reaction of ....'oh yea...well you're Momma's fat neener neener neener'. It seems rather common from a disturbingly high percentage of others on the conservative side positions as well. In particular, cookies postings often represet the low end of this shallow pond and your own hit about at the middle portion of this ineffectual means of debate. I mention this as an observational critique and with sincere intent to offer helpful feedback for what it's worth. Because it is my opinion that you do your homework and are in a position to effectively argue your points with credibility. We just haven't fully seem that potential yet. Trust that I wish to hear your arguments and consider them for any position in which your stance is counter that of any given individual. So please, up your game just a bit more so that the time and considerable energy you have obviously given towards the point has the best chance of being a convincing argument. Remember, your audience is the slightly left of center progressives such as myself. You already have the right of center. It is unlikely you will obtain the far left. So who do you woo?? Exactly. Left of center. Just sayin.

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  • cookie65October 25, 2013 - 8:48 am

    An example of an effective Morris rebuttal. -- Morris October 23, 2013 - 8:18 am Cookie, while that is unlikely to earn your Junior Jackass Karl Rove Merit Badge you'll at least get a Participant ribbon. Don't cry. It'll be OK

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  • Robert Van GilderOctober 25, 2013 - 9:46 am

    LOL Cookie--- something about a pot and kettle come to mind.

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  • Terri KlineOctober 27, 2013 - 3:19 pm

    Yep, that's her second cut and paste on that quote, she must really be pissed.

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  • Jim RiordanOctober 25, 2013 - 10:00 am

    Frankly, I am sick and tired of all of them. While everyone debates the viability of either party, the fact is this Government is collectively ruining this great Nation. Don't forget that cuts to Medicare which recipients worked for and EARNED and Veterans benefits for the people who courageously protect this Country, were to be cut in a few weeks if no "resolution" was reached. In my opinion, ALL of the Legislator's and the President's salaries and benefits should be the very first things totally cut. Get 'em all out and let's start over! And, BTW, welcome to life in California , ranked 48th out 50 states because of all the giveaways to the undeserving and Draconian taxation and over-regulation of businesses. Businesses will continue to cut back full timers and do what ever else that they have to do to avoid the idiocy of National and Statewide "mandates". Yet all the while, these fools in Washington fail to understand the impending impact of their mindless threats to "increase the debt ceiling", or worse, defaulting on debts, which WILL cause the increasingly worthless dollar to lose the status of World Reserve Currency. Wonder whom they will try to blame the catastrophic impact and aftermath of that on? Surely not themselves! From the top down, anyone who tramples our Constitution, as is being done daily now, should be removed from office and kicked outa town! Note: A friend recently back from a vacation in Italy tried to pay a taxi driver in dollars and the driver refused to accept them and would not let them out of the cab. Another friend who had local currency had to approach the cab and pay our friend's fare so he could be let out. And the fools in Washington rave on. I am truly sorry to see my great Country head down the toilet but I believe we are past the point of no return.

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  • NancyOctober 26, 2013 - 1:27 am

    Great post, Jim.

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  • cookie65October 25, 2013 - 10:37 am

    Jim, don't be defeated by pessimism. While it is true that this country is in need of a total government enema, it is also true that we have the best possible teaching tool in all of human history on our side, the destruction caused by leftism. They may be able to hide it in the revised history books but they can't hide it in real time. The best way for someone to learn not to put their hand on a hot stove is by letting them do it. Those who have supported the notion of endless government, and government exists to solve any and every hardship of life will have the opportunity to learn the cost of such fantasy is too high. They haven't learned it yet, but we are on the threshold of them learning it. I think it has to be broken before it can be fixed. Being broken isn't a reason for pessimism, it is a reason for optimism.

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  • rodOctober 25, 2013 - 10:38 am

    Jim, I agree, America as we knew it has been overrun by the curse of every democracy, socialism by force. Lying, deception, changing laws, selective enforcement, buying votes with huge increases in foodstamps, welfare, amnesty promises, selective taxation, etc. all part of Obama’s tool kit. Just remember the spirit of 1776 can NEVER be taken. I believe the democrats have stolen enough rope to hang themselves with Obamacare, ‘a bridge too far’ for the working class. Like most conservative investors have disengaged in the ‘economy’ and await the bad water to dissipate, so should we refuse to participate in Obamacare until it suffers its final death throws with a stake through the heart. Even CNN is questioning this admin, any day now we may see a shift in the lying left wing media… maybe.

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  • Dee#1October 25, 2013 - 10:45 am

    Rod, you are so optimistic.

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  • rodOctober 25, 2013 - 10:54 am

    #1, perhaps, but the fall back position is working.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 25, 2013 - 12:34 pm

    Mr. Alger -- This country was founded on GROWTH -- which made it Great! .......The Shutdown -- stopped Growth by 33% for this year (2% projected--lost 0.6%)........ Sequester has cost this country's growth another 0.7% (According to The Hill)....... YET..... Our PAST President's said GROWTH is important to the survival of this country......... Washington 1789, "there is no truth more thoroughly established than that there exists in the ECONOMY and course of nature an indissoluble union." ................ Eisenhower Jan 9, 1950, American must have "solid grounds for confidence of ECONOMIC GROWTH will be resumed without economic interruption." ......... Reagan Jan. 25, 1983, had a four-point plan for "economic growth." .......... One of which was " thousands of working people have been helped in making the shift from dead-end jobs and low-demand skills to the GROWTH areas of high technology and the service ECONOMY."................ JOBS?......... Where is GROWTH coming out of the mouths of the GOP or Tea-Party leaders of today????? It's all.............. Personal rewards....... To hell with the rest of the country......... It's tyranny (one person's rule) if we don't cut MORE ............. No health care for poor, no JOBS, cut schools, cut, cut, cut...... It's like selling the family car and house..... where are you going to live? How are you going to get a job?...... This used to be a country of "We all work together to make this country GREAT."....... Why aren't Conservatives CONSERVING all the Greatness of this Country? This is not Republican vs. Democrat..... It's Americans protecting American for Americans.

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  • cookie65October 25, 2013 - 1:48 pm

    Dink, this country was founded on GROWTH? I'll give you a chance to fix that before I make fun of you.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 25, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    Cookie -- use your critical thinking skills. You have them...... Read the first 10 paragraphs of Thomas Paine's "Common Sense." It's laying out the premise that the "Monarchial" and "Aristocratical" members were "Independent of the people".... so in a "Constitutional sense they contribute nothing towards the freedom of the state."..... (That's the GROWTH part. Remember they were 'dumping' foreign goods on the markets?)..... and in G. Washington's 1789 speech.... because we were ECONOMICALLY independent we were a strong country.... Think about things like: Why does Glenn Beck's 'Agenda 21' not make sense? Why is our Constitution MORE important than the UN's to the American people? Why would the US Navy Seals attack the American people? You Analyze the information (Glenn Beck's 5-yr talk show vs. centuries of scholars reading and comparing documents) Not enough people are using their "Common Sense"! .......... OH Thank God, CA is adding a new standard to their teaching.... CRITICAL THINKING.....

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  • Terri KlineOctober 27, 2013 - 3:26 pm

    Well said . . . THANK YOU!

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  • cookie65October 26, 2013 - 7:27 am

    The obama regime has no use for the Constitution.

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  • cookie65October 26, 2013 - 7:34 am

    I realize the wizard's of smart on the left look at this and see compassion but in fact it is by design and it is what the left seeks to do where ever and when ever they are allowed.

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  • EvelynOctober 26, 2013 - 5:29 pm

    "Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is executive at company that built Obamacare website" - HERE: As reported by the Washington Examiner in early October, the Department of Health and Human Services reviewed only CGI’s bid for the Obamacare account.

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  • cookie65October 27, 2013 - 7:35 am

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