Wednesday, April 23, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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Look at the facts

EDITOR:

In the Oct. 28 paper is another short letter from John Garon and he ends his missive with the statement: “A word means exactly what I say it means, no more, no less.”

President Obama could have made that statement. I don’t know what world John is living in, as it is becoming abundantly clear that the two examples he quotes give the lie to this statement.

No. 1, it has been proven that as more guns are allowed in the hands of the populace, the crime rates have gone down in every instance, no exceptions. Death and injury rates have not only not gone up but have decreased in every instance. The courts have held that the police have no individual responsibility to protect us but only the general populace. Who then is to protect us individuals? Gun control only disarms the honest law-abiding citizen while leaving the dishonest criminals free to ignore the law as they attack us.

No. 2, the Affordable Health Care law is proving to be the exact opposite of its title as insurance rates are going up by hundreds of percent. More patients are being created with no increase in the number of health care professionals to take care of them.

The same thing applies to the newly insured who aren’t having to pay their fair share of the insurance costs, throwing their costs onto the backs of those already insured at their own expense. Supply and demand will raise the cost of health care, as always happens in socialism.

Socialism has never worked, with no exceptions, in every instance where it has been tried. Why should it work now? Insanity has been described as doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Socialism has been a historical example of this premise. I would suggest that this Humpty Dumpty get his head out of the clouds and look at the facts, however distasteful that may be, and he will see that things are a lot different than what he theorizes.

BYRON MOBUS
Cameron Park

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  • MorrisOctober 29, 2013 - 8:04 pm

    There are a number of factual inaccuracies within your Letter to The Editor Mr. Mobus. Specifically, those statements concerning Socialism and those implied within your claim 'Socialism has never worked, with no exceptions, in every instance where it has been tried' are as incorrect as the grammar and punctuation. It's seems to have worked quite well for France; being that it possesses the world's 9th-largest economy by purchasing power parity and Europe's 4th largest. In terms of total household wealth, France is the wealthiest nation in Europe and 4th in the world. French citizens enjoy a high standard of living, high public education level, and one of the world's longest life expectancies. France has been listed as the world's "best overall health care" provider by the World Health Organization. It is the most-visited country in the world, receiving 83 million foreign tourists. Further, I suggest that our neighbor to the north - Canada - is more Socialist in its governance and doing just fine as well. In fact, Canada has both met and exceeded parity in currency exchange and enjoys a standard of living that in several provinces exceeds our own. Seems that 'never worked' is working out just fine for these nations. There are others as well should additional examples of 'failure' be required for your in-depth research. So while I do not wish to provide an opinion or theory as to Socialism being a viable or unacceptable alternative to our own current governance, I feel compelled nonetheless to provide the truth of actual fact as correction to those false generalizations claimed as your own.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 8:24 pm

    Morris, are you talking about the same successful commie, pinko socialists that produced this eyesore? - LINK - La 2 CV

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  • MorrisOctober 29, 2013 - 8:55 pm

    Non. Je ne regrette rien.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 29, 2013 - 9:02 pm

    No entiendo. Pero yo pienso que es muy malo.

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  • MorrisOctober 29, 2013 - 9:11 pm

    ......'newly insured who aren’t having to pay their fair share of the insurance costs, throwing their costs onto the backs of those already insured at their own expense... '. TRANSLATED: 'The poor who cannot afford the luxury of health insurance and go without and often suffer while Mr. Mobus enjoys relative easy access to preventive medicine, treatment of illness and pain as well as affordable prescription medication have the GALL to ask me for assistance when we all know that what's mine is mine and I got mine even tho a portion of my financial success and greater disposable in income is based upon the backs of those low-wage earners who serve/build/stock the shelves with the artificially low-priced merchadise and luxuries I can consume so don't ask me to share, tithe or care. I don't.' EASY. REALLY. ONCE THE PROPER TENSE IS IDENTIFIED THE TRANSLATION JUST ROLLS OFF THE TOUNGE.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 9:26 pm

    Phil, are you kidding? That's a collector's item.

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  • James E.October 29, 2013 - 9:27 pm

    Actually, I once owned a French car. It was made out of tinfoil. Just leaning against it caused a dent.

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  • Dee#1October 29, 2013 - 9:53 pm

    I will be working for the next ten lives to pay this off-----Each U.S. taxpayer now has a federal-debt liability of $1.1 million, and rising. Remember that when President Obama boasts that the federal deficit—the shortfall between annual revenues and spending—is declining. Of course, the primary reason for the decline is the sequester, which was his idea but now adamantly opposes. The public tends to focus on the total national debt, which just passed the $17 trillion mark—up from $10.6 trillion when President Obama took office. But that figure pales in comparison to the federal government’s long term unfunded liabilities—money the government is obligated to pay over and above the revenues it is estimated to receive. According to the U.S. Debt Clock, total long term unfunded liabilities are at $126 trillion, a $1.1 million liability for each U.S. taxpayer. - See more at: http://rare.us/story/your-share-of-the-national-debt-is-now-1-1-million/#sthash.uuK2BsG6.dpuf

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 6:38 am

    Byron, your statement "socialism has never worked, with no exceptions" depends on what the motives are for those pursuing and promoting it. If their motive is to cause two classes of people, the ruling class who control everything and the serfs who pay homage to the ruling class for what ever crumbs are left over then socialism works every time. If their motive is to enslave the populace and cause them to sacrifice their freedom and liberty for some false sense of security then it works every time. If the motive is to make the producers the minority and the dependents the majority then it works every time. If the motive is to create a permanent dependency class then it works every time. If the motive is to secure the entire wealth of a nation to a few select people and eliminate the opportunity of anyone else to escape abject poverty then it works every time. Socialism does work. It works to end individuality, opportunity, mobility, choices, private property, freedom and liberty.

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  • MorrisNovember 11, 2013 - 3:41 pm

    One word cookie: MONDRAGON

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 3:46 pm

    Morris, you do realize the national unemployment is Spain is 26%? Among the youth it is even higher. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/spain/unemployment-rate

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 7:41 am

    Here is a highly entertaining look at what you will hear coming from the loons over the next few months. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92442-what-are-the-democrats-doing-next-on-obamacare/

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 7:56 am

    Is criticism of dear leader permissible yet? http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/11/my_fellow_blacks_can_i_criticize_dear_leader_now.html

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 8:04 am

    I do like to keep the field balanced and offer the occasional unintentional reporting that comes from those who typically avoid and omit things which prove inconvenient for the regime. So this is from the always dependable (to the leftist agenda) NYTimes discovering the massive fraud taking place under ocommycare. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/business/con-men-prey-on-confusion-over-health-care-act.html?hp&_r=1&

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  • kggNovember 11, 2013 - 9:09 am

    bryon writes: "it has been proven that as more guns are allowed in the hands of the populace, the crime rates have gone down in every instance, no exceptions. Death and injury rates have not only not gone up but have decreased in every instance." kgg asks: where is your proof?

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 9:44 am

    This is how the tyrannical left views the will of the people when they lose. http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/11/10/annapolis-council-to-consider-stripping-republican-mayor-elects-power/

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  • DavidNovember 11, 2013 - 10:17 am

    kgg I was going to ask the same question. When these people state something r we suppose to take it as truth with no facts to prove their bull. And........by the way R.J. and Phil this is David writing. Let ur suspicions go. They r very paranoid sounding.

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 10:42 am

    David, the churches around the leftists utopia of Detroit are advertising on billboards. "Thou Shalt Not Kill". I guess the gun restrictions there aren't working. http://www.myfoxny.com/Story/23942392/churches-post-thou-shalt-not-kill-billboards-around-detroit -- Read this -- http://www.policymic.com/articles/22835/gun-control-facts-detroit-crime-rate-is-the-result-of-gun-control

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 12, 2013 - 11:25 am

    Cookie - "Thou Shalt Not Kill". ~~~ LINK - North Korea executes 80, some for minor offenses, newspaper says

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 10:43 am

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/22835/gun-control-facts-detroit-crime-rate-is-the-result-of-gun-control

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  • PattyNovember 11, 2013 - 10:48 am

    Byron I am so sick of that argument "when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns." Have you ever done research on that? Are those people who go to other states and buy guns out of the back of car trunks "law abiding citizens?" Maybe so. But unfortunately you people need to quit worrying about losing your frickin guns. Again unfortunately it aint gonna happen. Just keep shooting and Be Happy.

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 4:14 pm

    Patty, allow me to re-phrase it for you. If guns were outlawed how would it effect those who are already banned from having them? It wouldn't, it is already illegal for them to have them so what would they care. Conversely, how would it effect those who currently and legally own guns? It would make them criminals. So it is a factual statement that if guns are outlawed only outlaws would have guns. If guns were outlawed anyone who had one would be an outlaw.

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 4:21 pm

    Patty, you may say "it ain't gonna happen" but you would vote to give the government permission to confiscate the guns from law abiding citizens. The same way you vote to give government permission to do anything else it wants. Many elected mentally ill individuals in congress are on record wanting to disarm every American. Again, I offer Thomas Jefferson and his thought on the matter. ""The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -- "The people will not understand the importance of the Second Amendment until it is too late." --

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  • MartinNovember 11, 2013 - 2:32 pm

    Morris 83 million foreign tourists spend a lot of money; it isn’t socialism that works it tourism 83 million times at least $1000.00 is enough to make any nation look good; Take that away they would have food lines.

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  • MorrisNovember 11, 2013 - 3:37 pm

    Martin, I agree with your point: The revenues are significant and certainly contribute to the bottom line of their economic success. But it's important to remember that the 83 million x 1000.00 does not produce a net of 83m x 1000.00. Tourists contribute....but they also consume resources without the offsetting long-term contributions of permanent residency. So it's a mixed bag of give and take; like most anything in life. Again, not here to defend of promote socialism. Only fact. The statement 'socialism does not or has not worked' is innacurate and remarkably provincial. For some governments it has. For our own? No. I don't think it would work here. We are far too self-absorbed of a people. In my opinion, capitalism is the only form of democracy that is possible for us. My concern however is that what made us great is also that which could destroy us.

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  • rodNovember 11, 2013 - 2:52 pm

    kgg/david, google Dade county Florida. 15 some years ago they made concealed weapons legal for joe average with a simple permit/background check. It is the MODEL now used by law enforcement nation wide as it consistently reduces crime and substantialy changed crime stats where it has been accepted. The ONLY problem is the ignorance still imposed by the eye-rolling gunphobes.

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 3:51 pm

    Rod, don't waste your time. They have a computer, a monitor, a keyboard, and a connection to billions and billions of bits of information. What they are lacking is any imagination, intellectual curiosity, critical thinking, inquisitiveness, and discernment. If they possessed any of those things they could figure out how to look up things in order to inform themselves and they wouldn't be useful idiots for the left.

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  • MorrisNovember 11, 2013 - 5:53 pm

    This from someone who's sole contributions to debate exists in dodging questions, embedding links to shill web sites, inserting conjecture instead of verifiable fact and providing the opening volley to an exchange of insults. And with no degree of shame (but plenty if psychosis and projection) turns right around and points the finger at everyone else for the behavior. Funny. And sad. It would not surprise me in the least to learn that cookie can't even make a U-Turn unless in the UK.

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 6:30 am

    Morris, is this one of those "shill websites"? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/11/opinion/daring-to-complain-about-obamacare.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2&

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  • cookie65November 11, 2013 - 4:33 pm

    The STATE run healthcare exchanges, not the 3 1/2 yr. $634million national embarrassment are only at 3% of their target enrollment. I guess all that desperate need for healthcare insurance and public support for ocommycare isn't exactly being supported by the enrollments. If leftists didn't lie they wouldn't have anything to say. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/11/usa-healthcare-enrollment-idUSL2N0IW0XX20131111?feedType=RSS&feedName=rbssHealthcareNews&rpc=22

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 12, 2013 - 1:36 am

    Cookie, the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is November 17th. It appears that Obama will not attend. ~~~LINK - Obama Won't Attend Gettysburg Address Remembrance ~~~ Is his failure to attend a "tell" pointing to cataclysmic incompetence infusing the ACA. Does he feel inadequate when confronted by the stark efficiency of Lincoln's 272 words? His invitation (not that he needed one) came a year in advance. This is most unusual.

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 11, 2013 - 4:59 pm

    Speaking of guns.....This week there was a horrible UTube video making the rounds on Facebook....The video shows two women in their early 20's with a bucket of 6-8 little black week old puppies...The puppy's were crying for their mother as one of the women put the bucket down next to a raging river and began laughing as she one by one enjoyed throwing each terrified squealing little puppy into the river, the other women was laughing as she filmed it....Since I love animals a lot more than I like people, seeing that video was the only time in my life I thought it's probably not a good idea for me to own a gun.......

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  • Dee#1November 11, 2013 - 5:33 pm

    R.J., I hope someone recognized them and turned them in to law enforcement and they get jury filled with people like you, Phil, me and yes Longhofer. The verdict would come quickly .

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  • James E.November 11, 2013 - 5:55 pm

    Sadly punishments for those who abuse animals are minimal. And, also sad is that I bet no one identified those two young women who have malice in their hearts. Who could be so evil? So, what would be the appropriate punishment? Well, a range from four bullets for each of them, one in each elbow, one in each knee cap, to a jail term of 5 to 10 years. Obviously, the bullet approach would fail as excessive. But, in reality, if apprehended, they would probably get maximum of 90 days in jail and maybe probation. Would I be a guilty vote if on the jury? I would scream it out and gladly accept the contempt of court penalty.

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 5:05 am

    James, as you know I am an animal lover. I don't however see a lot of difference between abusing a dog and what the left does to people in their quest for power. They have redefined compassion to mean keeping people dependent on crumbs and trapped in poverty. The results of leftism are always the same. Equally shared misery and a complete loss of self-determination.

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 5:09 am

    Here is a video on the millions and millions involved in the ocommycare dnc slush fund and the real reason the Marxists took over healthcare. Getting paid to tell people to commit fraud and promote leftism. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363699/truth-about-navigators-john-fund

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  • Dee#1November 11, 2013 - 9:16 pm

    I don't talk about me much, but one of my favorite memories is arranging the incarceration of a jerk who abused an sick, old pitt bull for two years in a county jail. And yes, I made sure he stayed there for two years. He lost his home and it does not bother me a bit. I'll admit, he didn't realize how determined animal lovers can be, but he learned.

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  • James E.November 11, 2013 - 9:33 pm

    Well done Dee.

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 5:16 am

    Phil, if I had to guess, someone in obama's inner circle, probably valjar, may have accidentally stumbled into the idea that obama standing in for HONEST Abe might make for way too much late night comedy jokes. The left is seriously trying to downplay just how much of an unrestrained liar he really is.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 12, 2013 - 8:01 am

    Cookie, I'm filling in the blanks regarding Obama's curious decision to boycott the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address. Lincoln was a Republican - a partisan political decision - pure and simple ~~~ LINK - Obama Won't Attend Gettysburg Address Remembrance

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 8:52 am

    But Phil, piglosi says Obama is the most non-partisan pResident ever. And no one would ever question her honesty. After all she got a huge segment of the population to board a train without any clue where it was going.

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 9:20 am

    Phil, did you see this? Public University’s Plaque Labels President Lincoln A Democrat. To call the left dishonest would be an insult to dishonest people. And those who follow the leftists ideology consider themselves to be informed. http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/15283/

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 6:04 am

    So a leftists loon dim senator from NC is asking for an investigation into why ocommycare's website doesn't work. She voted for the government takeover of healthcare without reading it, she supported the massive transfer of wealth (1/6 of our economy to the left), she supported 10's of millions of people getting booted from their healthcare plans, she approved looting taxpayers out of millions in order to fund the dnc, she was in favor of letting the most incompetent people on planet earth do to healthcare what they have done to everything else they touch and now she wants an investigation into what went wrong. This will be the tactic for those who gave us this new definition of stupidity up for re-election. Pretend like they had nothing to do with it. http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/189890-democrat-calls-for-obamacare-probe

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 9:05 am

    The left is so far out of touch with reality that some have taken the occasion to accuse the American people of being "immature" in their reaction to being lied to repeatedly by obama. As if being kicked off your healthcare after being told you could keep it is something to make lite of. How much mileage did the left get out of Bush Lied when even the Clinton administration said Hussein posed a WMD risk to everyone. http://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-daily-news-editorial-attacks-americas-immaturity-for-showing-anger-over-obamacares-lies/

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  • rodNovember 12, 2013 - 9:13 am

    Cookie, accurate observation, "unrestrained liar"... knowing that democrat control of the senate is the only hope for the ACA, Ojamba plows ahead with ACA timetable throwing dem's re-election prospects under the bus. No question he will try to scale that self-imposed hurdle by lying his way through "immigration reform".

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 9:29 am

    Rod, dividing people into groups has many pitfalls. The left has used dividing people into groups in order to buy allegiance from them by claiming to be defenders and providers for them. Lies have a finite lifespan and the left is running out of people who are satisfied with the results of all the promises they have made. Next on the list is the immigration vote, but how many other groups are they going to push to the back of the bus who have been loyal to them for generations? There are always consequences for cheating people.

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 9:47 am

    Morris, as a gesture of thoughtfulness, knowing I occasionally post links to stuff you don't want to hear, I decided to post something that you DO want to hear. http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-climate-change-20131112,0,6958165.story#axzz2kRAYHu21

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 9:57 am

    Morris, here is one you will object to. Don't worry about it though people of your ilk don't expose themselves to stuff they don't want to hear or know so you don't have to concern yourself over anyone on your side becoming educated and/or informed from it. It is about socialized healthcare rationing in England and Wales. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502032/Scots-drug-Axitinib-treat-kidney-cancer-denied-English.html

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 10:06 am

    Morris, here is one about the destruction caused by the environazi's. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20131112/DAA11OTG2.html

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 10:53 am

    Here is one of the people who do the thinking for obamabots. This guy needs his own rubber room. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/93748-msnbc-host-outraged-obama-apologized-lying-apology-shouldve-come-conservatives/

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 12:15 pm

    Phil, a public execution in North Korea is favorable over living in their leftists utopia. Have you seen this picture of an engineering flow chart? http://www.flickr.com/photos/dullhunk/7214525854/

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  • rodNovember 12, 2013 - 5:41 pm

    "Send in the Clowns"… destined to be a classic. WARNING: may be offensive to obamabots. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osYZ1uZasN8

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  • cookie65November 12, 2013 - 7:19 pm

    Rod, that is classic. Thanks for posting. There are a few hundred people I will send that to before the free speech left has it taken down.

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