Wednesday, April 23, 2014

McClintock is bad for El Dorado County


When the Senate and House voted to end the GOP-driven “shutdown” of the federal government, Tom McClintock voted no. He would rather see children starve and be refused medical care, and our county has more than its fair share of those. It is clear that he is part of the faction of the GOP devoted to destroying our county by shutting off the programs that citizens have every right to expect from their federal government, especially citizens who are poor and indigent through no fault of their own.

There are two kinds of elected officials: Those who seek to do the best they can to serve the citizens they represent, and those who simply see elected office as a well-paying job. Given that his history suggests he’s never had a productive job other than in politics, it’s clear which kind he is. It’s time for the Democrats in the CA-04 Congressional District to find a true representative who is concerned with the wealth and prosperity of the citizens of the district, and to support the election of that adult to the House of Representatives.


Letters to the Editor


Discussion | 47 comments

  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 3:17 pm

    What does she say about the six shut downs by Dems during the Reagan years when the Dems were in majority? Does she forget? The nerve of them Dems, the starving of children and abuse of the elderly and sick, not to mention the loss of billions, six times simply for political differences? Yes Carol, it is called democracy and it happens when one side will not negotiate with the other or pass a budget in five years.

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 3:47 pm

    This is a false equivalence. All of those showdowns were about budget numbers and details. This is the first time mob rule in the Congress led to the global economy being taken as a hostage for the purposes of legislation. The Constitution has no provision for this legislative process. What the Tea Party did approached an act of sedition. It cost us dearly, much more than any of those past showdowns: 24 billion dollars, over a half point of GDP growth and a few hundred thousand jobs. I agree with Carol Anne. McClintock has to go!

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 4:01 pm

    The 24 billion is a myth. After the federal employees are paid the money, most of it, returns to the economy. The loss was to the people affected by the purposeful shut down of tourist areas and private govt. leased land businesses. Many were a first time ever closure from Ali-Bummer in DC. That is a real loss ordered by the top and was to cause pain. The previous Dem shut downs proves it is a tool for negotiation, not a "Tea Party" event led by a one man rebellion who received a standing O when he went home. These are the very same liberals covering up the citizenship, travel, and education records of their hero, Ali-Bummer.

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  • DanielOctober 21, 2013 - 5:07 pm

    Nothing you wrote is true. You made every bit of it up or you are regurgitating propaganda from far right sources. The loss is due to "potential economic activity." Facts are stubborn things.

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  • Dee#1October 21, 2013 - 5:22 pm

    Rep. McClintock , your consistent work in trying to reduce spending, control regulations, and restore our freedoms and rights enumerated is appreciated. We will continue to support you and work your re-election. Keep up the good fight against the Leftists.

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  • Ed RNovember 18, 2013 - 8:06 am

    I agree. I actually voted for the other guy and sent the other guy some of my own money to help with his campaign. So I was watching Mr. McClintock closely to find reasons to criticize him. He is matter of fact, and right on point when he discusses the dismal state of federal finances. I know it is hard to hear we cannot afford to keep spending billions more than we take in but it is true. We cannot borrow or tax our way to prosperity. I wish both parties would get a grip on that reality.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 21, 2013 - 5:26 pm

    The problem FRANK, is that you can't have your own facts.... Standards & Poors (Usually very Republican) said the country LOST $24 Billion and GDP dropped 0.6%..... FRANK -- You can say that is a myth..... but that doesn't make your statement a FACT!..... NO Democrat in all these made-up "shutdowns" during Reagan's time or any other time..... cost the country anything like that.... The Republicans screwed up.... If you really think Reagan was so great..... Be a "Reagan" Republican and get to WORK to come up with ideas to make this country "Better"..... McClintock is trying to starve this country and bring it to it's knees...... Not one word of "Growth" comes out of McClintock's mouth...

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 5:44 pm

    The potential impacts are only an estimate. Leftists love vague things like "potential estimated losses" a potential is not a solid number, just like "potential economic activity" There are hard numbers and facts, real losses that are evident from the leftists closures which can be documented. Further, your incorrect about the previous Dem closures being for technical budget reasons, they were for political battles over power, vetoes, and policy.

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 21, 2013 - 6:03 pm

    How many billions given to liberal companies who have defaulted and corporate and union welfare stimulus did Ali-Bummer add to the 17 trillion debt to hand out to cronies and spend that will take generations to pay off?

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  • Dink LaneOctober 22, 2013 - 12:36 pm

    Corporate Welfare $$$ do not go to "Liberal" companies.... They go to Exxon, Koch Associates, Israel, and don't forget the Corporate "Double-dippers" that fund McClintock, Devin Nunes, and Kevin McCarthy's campaigns (All your favorite 'Conservative-Tea-potters')...... These Corporate "Double-dippers" get PAID to NOT grow cotton and then get OUR Water at $25 an AC-FT (1 ac-ft would supply a family of 4 for one year).... They take our water that they don't grow cotton with and SELL it to WATER AGENCIES for $150 to $1000 ac-ft....... A woman working 8 hours and collecting food-stamps to feed her kids.... is NOT hurting this country..... The people protecting CORPORATE WELFARE..... is hurting this country MORE!

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  • Ernie LouisOctober 25, 2013 - 12:07 pm

    Debate the points and issues as you wish. Truth is, we can do much better then what we now have. Ernie Louis

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 7:10 am

    Starving obese children. If you know any kids denied medical care I know a couple of attorneys who would love to talk to them at no charge. I do wish we could have a discussion based on facts and not bleeding heart loonacy. Wasn't it harry reid who said, "why would I do that?" when asked about a little kid with cancer getting treatment. Wasn't it kathleen sibelius who said, "some people live and some people die" about a little girl who need a lung transplant?

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 7:22 am

    "It is clear that he is part of the faction of the GOP devoted to destroying our county by shutting off the programs that citizens have every right to expect from their federal government." This statement represents unparalleled ignorance. You can trade your freedom for a handout, but you don't get to trade my freedom for your handout. I would love it if the writer can provide even one shred of evidence from the founding of this country that supports her claim of "programs that citizens have every right to expect from their federal government". The Constitution of the United States is not a document establishing a welfare state. "A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circlue of our felicities." -- Thomas Jefferson

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  • MarciaNovember 18, 2013 - 9:28 am

    My two cents...the liberal politicos always throw the 'bleeding hearts" woes out there such as kids and old folks to portray how bad and mean conservatives are. Three truths: conservatives are more generous than liberals. If I could cut and paste, I would share an article from the liberal Minneapolis Star and Tribune spelling this out with statistics; secondly, there is way too much fat still to cut; it's not with the kids or the old folks; it's things such as pensions and frivolous overspending and too much regulation (you can read about these areas daily IE Dan Walters in the SacBee). thirdly, the liberal politico diatribing is done so people such as the writer of this article get sucked in and spread the fallacies like a bad germ.

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  • Dee#1November 18, 2013 - 10:11 am

    Dear Rep. McClintock, I want to thank you for standing up for your voters and continuing to keep your word. It is a pleasure to work for your re-election after the complete disaster of Obamacare is now confirmed fact. However, I do wish to caution you that when you are in El Dorado County that you have maximum security because of the fear and hate that the Leftist have expressed about conservatives, Republicans, and Tea Party members. They use terms such as"Tea Party that seems determined to tank our country. Both are enemies of the State"," It was so "good" that I felt hate and fear racing through my body. Hate to say it, but burn them at the stake if they again threaten a default in Jan/Feb.", and " Teahadist, bomb thrower, blackmail, inmates, asylum, kill, fascist, bilious, extremist and racist". These words are to stir up emotions that can lead to violence. So, Rep. McClintock, please be careful when visiting our beautiful County.

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 10:41 am

    Marcia, you should contibute your two cents more often. Every voice of sanity is like a cool drink of water after days in the desert.

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 10:46 am

    Here is one article on Marcia's point.

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 10:48 am

    Here is one that anyone who can fog a mirror already knew. Leftist are the least informed and the least tolerant.

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  • James E.November 18, 2013 - 11:13 am

    Dee, really? Liberals might hurt Tom? Liberals are generally wimps who love puppies and kittens and wouldn't hurt anyone. Not to worry Tom, you are safe, although some might yell at you for wearing cheap suits. My God man, you are making approximately $175K a year -- get some good suits, I recommend Paul Stuart at 45th and Madison, NYC.

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 11:59 am

    James, there have been riots and demonstrations in this country over the last 40-50 some years that have ties to one political party. It isn't even disputable. I realize how intimidating and threatening the left likes to paint the teaparty but they clean up after themselves and don't typically require law enforcement in riot gear and pepper spray to disperse. Force, violence and intimidation, they all seem to go with leftism, union rent-a-mobs, destruction of private property, setting cars on fire, using police cars as outhouses, fire hoses and attack dogs used against civil rights demonstrators. All DEMOCRATS......

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  • MorrisNovember 18, 2013 - 11:57 am

    Interesting Marcia that in essentially one sentence a claim is make about conservatives being more giving and that cuts are: ....'its not with the old folks'...yet turn right into verbiage about getting rid of pensions. I'm thinking that's a direct hit onto...ummm...let me see here...old people??

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  • MarciaNovember 18, 2013 - 6:50 pm Try this Morris. Hopefully, you will be taken to the article specifically mentioned by me. Enjoy!

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  • MarciaNovember 18, 2013 - 8:48 pm

    Morris, I am older than some of these "old people" who receive pensions...many at the expense of taxpayers. Isn't it funny that there are many of us that didn't, don't and never will receive a pension because we are, were not "clock punchers". We actually owned a business and had to pay out !00% of our SSN, pay others and half of their SSN, etc. Clock punchers can't understand that as they never experienced the "other side" of the working world. It is us that were responsible to pay the employees and worry about how to do it. Sadly, many of us lost all of our 401K's in the 2008 eco meltdown as when our businesses disappeared, our monthly obligations didn't. Bye, bye savings. All this thanks goes to those who were listed in the award winning documentary "Inside Job". Haven't seen it? Do so. It says alot!

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 12:07 pm

    Morris, do you think area's where a single public sector retiree receives half million dollars per year or more in taxpayer funded pension is perhaps, maybe, even slightly worthy of discussion as perhaps an area we could look at making some cuts? I realize how tough it must be to get by on a half million a year of someone else's money but if it is too tough they can get food stamps and a cell phone. You can't willingly be so clueless. If you need for me to cite examples I can and will.

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  • James E.November 18, 2013 - 12:11 pm

    Cookie, I get your message. Democrats bad, Tea/Republicans good. I really should get on the Tea/Republican bandwagon, so I can be a winner too. Thank you, I'll think about it. You haven't responded to a government without rules, as on a island with one palm tree, and the meanings of "Provide for the general welfare."

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 12:32 pm

    James, I have never made such a statement as all dims bad, all repubs good. As far as General Welfare is concerned it is not and was never intended to give the government license or permission to do anything it wanted. In fact that gives me the opportunity of offer another cookieism. "they teach two things about the Constitution in the universities of repeat after me, The general welfare clause gives government permission to do anything it wants and the interstate commerce clause gives the government permission to do anything it wants." This is the origin of confusion that comes from those who believe the primary function of government is to provide for them. Here is some interesting writing on the general welfare clause and its history that I can be assured you nor any other endless government supporter will read.

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  • Dink LaneNovember 18, 2013 - 12:38 pm

    What Bills has McClintock introduced to REDUCE REGULATION and CUT SPENDING per "". (We already know about the two bills to take Northern CA's water rights away for SJV Farmers) ........ H.R. 202-- Limit Citizen's lawsuits (Regulating you from protecting your water quality -- too bad if your wells are contaminated.), ........ H.R. 934 -- Amend (taking the guts out of the law) Wild & Scenic Rivers Act to let ONLY SJV farmers get the water (Regulating who gets the water over the locals who loose the water)..............(This one is a good one) H. Amdt 258 to H.R. 2609....... Regulate (Oh dam, there's that nasty word) funding to the Renewable Energy. (Well that is cutting funding to renewable but INCREASE to fossil fuels)........... So where is McClintock REPRESENTING El Dorado County?

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  • Little RickyNovember 18, 2013 - 1:19 pm

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  • rodNovember 18, 2013 - 1:31 pm

    Geeeze Louise… Carol.. what ever. “GOP devoted to destroying our county by shutting off the programs that citizens have every right to expect” … really? What government “right” would that be? You mean the free stuff you liberals have voted in that’s wrecking our economy and giving our National sovereignty to China? That’s not a ‘right’ lady, not in America… and hey, where did you get the notion the GOP cut off the funds? What, and you probably still don’t believe obama’s an unrestrained liar? (thanks Cookie) See how you people are? You really need to sit down and read the Constitution… THEN write a letter.

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  • Dink LaneNovember 18, 2013 - 2:44 pm

    I love it when some Right-Wing-Nut starts spouting the "Constitution"..... Read Article I, Section 8, Paragraph 12 "Declare war"...... Where were these "reactionary" believers in the "Constitution" when Bush-Cheney marched our blood and treasure into a country that "Did NOT attack us, and did NOT threaten to attack us"?...... And Never, Never follow the Constitution to go before Congress....

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  • cookie65November 18, 2013 - 5:18 pm

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." Ex-President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." Ex-President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998 "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 "Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 "Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." Senator John Edwards (D-NC), October 10, 2002 "While the distance between the United States and Iraq is great, Saddam Hussein's ability to use his chemical and biological weapons against us is not constrained by geography - it can be accomplished in a number of different ways - which is what makes this threat so real and persuasive." Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), October 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 "The essential facts are known. We know of the weapons in Saddam's possession: chemical, biological, and nuclear in time. We know of his unequaled willingness to use them. We know his history. His invasions of his neighbors. His dreams of achieving hegemonic control over the Arab world. His record of anti-American rage. His willingness to terrorize, to slaughter, to suppress his own people and others. We need not stretch to imagine nightmare scenarios in which Saddam makes common cause with the terrorists who want to kill us Americans and destroy our way of life." Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), September 13, 2002 "Make no mistake: Saddam Hussein is a ruthless tyrant, and he must give up his weapons of mass destruction. We support the President in the course he has followed so far: working with Congress, working with the United Nations, insisting on strong and unfettered inspections. We must convince the world that Saddam Hussein is not America's problem alone; he is the world's problem. And we urge President Bush to stay this course for we are far stronger when we stand with other nations than when we stand alone." Governor Gary Locke (D-WA), January 28, 2003 Democratic Response to President Bush's "State of the Union" address

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  • Tom GibneyNovember 18, 2013 - 6:13 pm

    BWAHAHAHA! I hear crickets...oh no that's just Dink! BWAHAHA! Touche` ala Cookie!

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  • MarciaNovember 18, 2013 - 6:44 pm

    Ummm, it took more than 18 months of kiss- *ssing Hussein to get into the country to check for the WMDs. Let us not forget all the dems that agreed; starting with Hilary C!

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  • rodNovember 18, 2013 - 5:33 pm

    Beautiful! A rose by any other name ... is still poetry

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  • R SmithNovember 18, 2013 - 8:34 pm

    Carol Anne is right, there are those who are poor and indigent through no fault of their own. The question becomes, who's fault is it. I nominate the democrat party, well fertilized by liberalism. The democrat party could not exist if they did not five finger the money we earn and buy votes with social programs. This in turn provides a steady stream malingers dependent on a hand out. What is it that makes one believe it's OK to take someones earning and give them to someone else? That thought process can only conclude that earnings belongs totally to the state, therefore we are all wards of the state. We are not their yet, however the “Affordable Care Act” has move this nation closer to that goal. It should be remembered that just because we live in a free country, it does not mean we as a people are free. Unlike communism, it is not required that government own everything as long as government can control everything through regulation. What's the difference whether a terrorist burns your barn down or the government regulates it out of business?

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  • cookie65November 19, 2013 - 7:33 am

    Freedom is not taken, it is relinquished. After years of the communists running public education and developing programs intended to free people from personal responsibility it is being traded for a handout.

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  • MartinNovember 18, 2013 - 10:22 pm

    Carol you are the reason that this country is so messed up, feeding the poor is not the government’s job, it is to protect us not to feed us or supply us with government incentives. Our church and families are the ones that should be taking care of the needy. Sure there should be volunteer food centers but not run by the government, America is made up by many nationalities that have come from all over the world during the past several hundred years to become free from government intervention, we don’t need government to feed us, supply us with housing and medical care, the only people that our government should be helping are our kids and the elderly and that should be kept on a need only basses; if the elderly have high incomes and have done will throughout their life then they don’t need government care only the actual needy should be helped. If our government really cared how you lived they would leave us alone so that we can survive without outside help, we are capable of great things but if you have someone blocking you at every step of the way to possible success it is impossible to succeed. Between the EPA and all of the do-gooder organizations that our government has given the rights to close down huge sections of our land without any recourse should only be administered after being scrutinized by our congress. To shut down expansion for snakes, birds, bugs and everything else that moves by suing our government needs to be stopped! If they have substantial evidence that something is causing harm then they need to present it to our representatives with all the scientific evidence and only then after scrutiny should it be enforced. We are becoming slaves to our government and nobody seem to see it, set back in your lazy boy and watch NBC and play with your I phones, absorb only what you are told by the media, do nothing to check and see if it is actually true. Never use your brain and common sense to put two and two together; if we don’t do something soon the poor and the middle class are doomed.

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  • tracyNovember 19, 2013 - 8:00 am

    Martin...well written!

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  • Vicci NolanNovember 19, 2013 - 9:32 am

    Nicely put, Carol. I totally agree. Tom is supported by the self-absorbed, sanctimonious citizens of our county, which does makes up the majority, unfortunately. He's an ass, but what can we do?

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  • MarciaNovember 19, 2013 - 9:39 am

    Vicci wrote: "self-absorbed, sanctimonious citizens of our county.." Vicci, what do you do to support the people of this county and beyond? I ask, as I am offended. What you don't know about "us" is that we, typically, are the ones out there supporting the less fortunate while the name callers such as yourself do nothing but complain. Again, I ask, what do you do beyond taking care of yourself?

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  • cookie65November 19, 2013 - 10:04 am

    Those "the self-absorbed, sanctimonious citizens" being the ones who get up everyday, provide for themselves and families while having the government confiscate what the earn in order to keep the freeloaders fat and happy and voting for the left. Not to mention supporting financially every last useless government agency and the lifetime pensions and healthcare of those who occupy space there. All while trying desperately to protect what they have worked very hard for and don't want to see it overrun or destroyed in value because of those who couldn't care less about what it takes to earn something. And witnessing it systematically destroyed to create a welfare state.

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  • Vicci NolanNovember 19, 2013 - 10:16 am

    I think I'm going to be sick.

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  • MarciaNovember 19, 2013 - 10:45 am

    Vic, Is this the best you can do for a response? Speaks volumes.

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  • MarciaNovember 19, 2013 - 10:43 am

    Cookie65...I believe you are the closest I have ever come to someone who things just like me. You just do a much better job articulating it than I. =0) Maybe, someday, we'll meet.

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  • cookie65November 19, 2013 - 10:20 am

    In Vicci's universe, and others who have the same lack of oxygen to the brain, those who pay for everything in this county, state, country aren't worthy of representation. They call it the big tent of diversity and tolerance. Openmindedness, thoughtfulness, compassion, enlightenment, they truly are the smartest among us and will arrogantly attest to it as long as nothing they believe in is measured by results.

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  • cookie65November 19, 2013 - 10:22 am

    Vicci, the first step to recovery is admitting to the disease.

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  • down with LibsNovember 19, 2013 - 10:23 am

    Vic....That's OK you can be sick...As long as you have $3,000.00 laying around for your Obama Care deductible you'll be just fine...

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