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• J. GroanNovember 27, 2012 - 10:00 am

  The election is over, The talking is done. Your party lost, My party won. So let us be friends, Let arguments pass. I'll hug your elephant, You kiss my ass.

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• I. GroanNovember 27, 2012 - 10:03 am

  yeah . . . that'll be the day

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• James E.November 27, 2012 - 10:05 am

  If Fox News is fair and balanced, why would they have to tell us they are fair and balanced? Hmmmm.

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• James E.November 27, 2012 - 10:18 am

  Laura Ingram, on Fox, is claiming that Obama is holding a gun to the head of the American people. No Laura, he's holding a gun to the head of the Tea/Republican House. And about time.

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• EvelynNovember 27, 2012 - 10:24 am

  Do any of the major networks provide "fair and balanced" coverage? Does the very question suggest that the truth is never told? Or is it just hard to cull. With these questions in mind, what do you make of Hillary Clinton's having "admitted" on Fox that the U.S. Government Created al-Qaeda. HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y

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• James E.November 27, 2012 - 10:57 am

  Evelyn, probably not, but only one has to tell us they are fair and balanced. Speaks volumes. Next thought: Has Hillary ever been on Fox?

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• James E.November 27, 2012 - 11:01 am

  Evelyn, I tried to get to that site but it wouldn't go through. I have no memory of Hillary ever being on Fox -- may well be so.

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• EvelynNovember 27, 2012 - 11:19 am

  James, I too have no memory of Hillary having been on Fox. However, the site you can't access is a video clip of Greta van Susteren (Fox) interviewing Mrs. Clinton. (Don't know the date but believe it was early 2011.) Mrs. Clinton very specifically admits that, in response to the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the U.S. government created and funded the very force that we now are fighting.

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• James E.November 27, 2012 - 11:34 am

  Evelyn, oh, that's true -- Bin Laden was our buddy in those days as we (CIA) furnished him stinger missiles (to shoot down Soviet helicopters), and other arms. Our friend today is our enemy tomorrow and, if we wait long enough, our enemy becomes our friend again. It's a crazy world.

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• Phil VeerkampNovember 27, 2012 - 1:30 pm

  Mujahideen. It is factually incorrect to assert that Hillary said we created Al Qaeda. Hillary used the word “Mujahideen”. WE did in fact support the Mujahedeen’s struggle against the Soviets. Bin Laden did in fact play a very minor role within the Mujahedeen prior to victory against the Soviets in 1989. Al-Qaida is an international terrorist organization created by Osama bin Laden sometime in 1988. Osama’s “street creds” come from his peripheral activities within the Mujahideen. 9/11 Truthers like to conflate Taliban, Al-Qaida and the Mujahideen to support the mountains of truther-inside job bull$hit.

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• Phil VeerkampNovember 27, 2012 - 1:32 pm

  LINK - The Difference Between the Taliban, Al-Qaida and the Mujahideen

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• EvelynNovember 27, 2012 - 1:48 pm

  Robin Cook, former British MP and - at the time of his death - President of the Foreign Policy Centre and a vice-president of the America All Party Parliamentary Group and the Global Security and Non-Proliferation All Party Parliamentary Group, wrote in The Guardian (8 July 2005): "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west."

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• Phil VeerkampNovember 27, 2012 - 6:09 pm

  It is clear from a reading of the entire article that the rise of Bin Laden was a mistake as opposed to a focused, cultivated, dark CIA operative project. After the Soviets withdrew Bin Laden became a “free agent”. The standard TRUTHER claptrap about CIA Bin Laden inside job is pathetically weak and unsupportable. LINK - The struggle against terrorism cannot be won by military means - Robin Cook - The Guardian, Friday 8 July 2005 15.00 BST

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• Phil VeerkampNovember 27, 2012 - 9:22 pm

  just for fun - The Washington Post is fair and balanced - - - LINK - Oops! China’s Communist Party paper hails NKorea’s Kim being named The Onion’s ‘sexiest man’

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• cookie65November 28, 2012 - 7:36 am

  Even though obama won the bitterness of the left will become even more intense. It already has. The leftist utopia isn't rainbows and unicorns, it is massive, overwhelming debt and bankruptcy. Imagine after waiting your entire life to see the leftist dream which is obama being such a stellar disappointment. So if obama isn't the leftists dream who is? The re-election of obama has made it easier than ever to spot leftists when out and about. They are the ones who look like the just ate a lemmon. Garon is mearly demonstrating the anger and rage that is liberalism. Liberalism is an utter failure and it is everyone elses fault.

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• Shingle SeniorNovember 28, 2012 - 7:46 am

  Cookie65......sad to inform you but the sky is NOT falling and the world if NOT coming to an end.......You need a serious project to keep you busy.......

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• foamie mouth®November 28, 2012 - 8:46 am

  single shingle, today's blood sport can't begin before the others check in. some are still sleeping, in bed.

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• CatherineNovember 28, 2012 - 8:47 am

  I enjoyed the poem. Always nice to have a little poetry in the morning. But regarding this discussion on who created the "rebel" forces that we now fight (and the link to Hillary Clinton), this is pretty much standard procedure and not at all unique to the Middle East: We arm a group to keep another country out of a region in which we have economic interests and/or we support the rise of a friendly leader. Sometimes, in subsequent years these groups get sick of being used as puppets. The history of American destabilization of rising democracies is pretty disheartening if you've been raised--as most of us have--to see the country in a different light.

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• James E.November 28, 2012 - 9:30 am

  I see that Cookie is in fine form this morning. I try to ponder why she is what she is -- could a liberal have scared her mother while she was in the fetus development phase? And, Cookie, the brain isn't spaghetti sauce, it's oatmeal and perhaps that's the explanation.

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• cookie65November 28, 2012 - 10:25 am

  James, with 4 soda (I prefer beer) cans of blood flowing thru the brain every minute and given the consistancy of meatballs I would guess the brain when scrambled (the liberal mind) would more closely resemble spaghetti sauce than oatmeal. I take such offense at leftism because it purposely tells people that they are stuck where ever they are in life, the game is fixed, the deck is stacked against them, the have no hope, no chance and to just be satisfied with what ever crumbs their benevolent government has left over to barely sustain them. I find that repulsive in every way. And I question the motives of anyone who doesn't. Imagine people living in the land of opportunity where they have the option of living in a house on the beach or the dumpster of their choosing being held down by politicians for the purpose of political power. Sickening doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about it. Stalin had it right when he called them useful idiots.

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• AnthonyNovember 28, 2012 - 10:59 am

  cookie65, you are certainly entitled to your opinions about what leftists believe. I am also entitled to point out that you really do not know what you are talking about. I would provide specifics, but if I did, I would be accused of "bragging". So I will simply state that your your cartoonish opinions about leftists belong in the same circular file with birtherism, poll-truthing, and death panels. Those opinions bear no resemblance to my beliefs or the beliefs of millions of your fellow citzens. Maybe one day you will realize that.

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• Let's You & Him FightNovember 28, 2012 - 11:10 am

  Transactional Analysis offers a theory for child development by explaining how our adult patterns of life originated in childhood. This explanation is based on the idea that we continue to re-play childhood strategies, even when this results in pain or defeat. Thus it claims to offer a theory of psychopathology. In practical application, it can be used in the diagnosis and treatment of many types of psychological disorders and provides a method of therapy for individuals, couples, families and Mountain Democrat commenters.

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• Phil VeerkampNovember 28, 2012 - 11:54 am

  Let's You & Him Fight - word for the day - eristic - LINK - Eristic

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• EristicratNovember 28, 2012 - 12:04 pm

  winning is a good goal but a nokout is betr ..... what round r we in now?

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• Phil VeerkampNovember 28, 2012 - 12:33 pm

  EVELYN?

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• EristicratNovember 28, 2012 - 1:03 pm

  Mi nombre es Santa Claus. Pero me encanta Evelyn.

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• EvelynNovember 28, 2012 - 1:26 pm

  Thank you, Santa!

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• SchroederNovember 28, 2012 - 1:30 pm

  Your TA word for today - Fallacy

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• Thomas GibneyNovember 28, 2012 - 4:36 pm

  I have come to believe that Liberal Democrats like Garon are actually masochists. Not only will they vote for a man they know is incompetant, they will watch Fox knews to remind them (or MSNBC and the other media to tell them all is well , nevermind the smoke). Seriously, I have no other explanation as to why people would vote for this man. Not that Romney was the cats meow, but , well I suppose they really want to see if they can put Mao's Little Red Book to the test. Still, Nikita Kruschev is laughing in hell along with Stalin.....The election is over your Golden calf has won....I am still stocking up on goodies so I can sit back and watch you get bled dry and ask for more...just amazing...True definition of useful idiots: The 21 century Liberal....Actually yesterdays Communist is todays liberal. OK come on allyou smarmy little Dem pundits throw in your little insolent jabs...you can do it...come on ...Vlerie Jarret told you what to do...let me refresh you then... “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.” YOu can;t disprove it. BUt it says alot of the mentality of the Obama admin...You liberal folk are funny....but alot of us are not laughing...yet

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• Lisamae FentoroNovember 29, 2012 - 2:07 am

  I thank God that the American people have overwhelmingly rejected Mr. Gibney's brand of hatred. While he tucks himself away preparing for Armageddon, the rest of the country will be working hard to improve life in the USA.

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