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From page A5 | September 13, 2013 | 88 Comments

EDITOR:

I would like to commend Todd White for his Sept. 6, letter regarding Supervisor Ray Nutting’s legal problems. It is so refreshing to see an individual, believe in our Constitution, along with Mr. White’s ethics and what he feels is an elected official’s obligation to serve. There is so much disappointment with the character and morals of so many of our elected representatives. When it is those serving in local government, it is even more disheartening, because they are often our friends and neighbors.

I agree, Mr. Nutting should have recused himself, until his legal problems are resolved. This would have not only been the considerate thing to do, but also acting responsibly, as this has caused extra work and time for the Board of Supervisors and county staff, and is costly for taxpayers.

I have read the Grand Jury transcripts and hopefully when Mr. Nutting has his day in court, the public will be able to hear first hand the evidence and testimony by witnesses. In the meantime, I feel there has been too much debate occurring, from those making comments in PR Pond and to some extent the Mountain Democrat. I also feel, as a public servant, who has not yet had his day in court, Supervisor Nutting should refrain from calling and e-mailing those who have commented about Mr. Nutting’s troubles. For you who feel you must cast aspersions on others elected, if you feel there is wrongdoing, then I would encourage you to come up with some documented facts and pursue this separately from Mr. Nutting’s legal issues.

Finally, I would like to add that there is more than one charge against Mr. Nutting, as well as Cal Fire looking to charge the supervisor for fire suppression charges, after responding to the four separate fires at Mr. Nutting’s ranch. My hope is all this will be resolved quickly, to allow county staff and elected officials to focus their attention on the business of the county and its citizens.

There are many questions to be answered and evidence provided. Hopefully, when Mr. Nutting has his day in court, on Sept. 20, the truth will come out and the public will have a better understanding about the whys and wherefores, when it comes to conflict of issues by public servants. They walk a fine line and someone in his fourth term as a county supervisor should know better. Don’t forget the California State Attorney General is involved in this case as well as the District Attorney.

I truly hope that we have more young people, such as Todd White, who believe in our constitution and who will be willing to serve in public office. I have faith that there are and proud that many of them live here, in El Dorado County. Todd is a product of our school system and community and has been an admirable board member of the El Dorado Union High School District. Thank you, Todd.

TERRY GHERARDI
Cameron Park

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 11, 2013 - 5:48 pm

    I believe in our constitution...Ray Nutting is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. since he is innocent--he doesnt need to step down from anything. and because he has decided to continue with his job...he has also offered not to vote on certain issues...it was his choice. How interesting--yet predictable that people are going at this issue again...and so close to his day in court. TSK.TSK.TSK. Do I need to post the constitution for 3rd graders again? Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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  • bizaarSeptember 11, 2013 - 6:44 pm

    Funny how Fran finds "others" guilty on random issues throughout these commentaries. But stands by her convictions for the court of law to rule, today.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 11, 2013 - 8:44 pm

    bizaar...I only make comments of people doing something--such as manipulating a whole community--if I know it first hand. Otherwise--not sure what you are talking about. lololol...and for some reason you think I know Ray really well--nope. Should I start throwing down links on everyone who could be guilty of something? If the DA were up for something--unless it was proven in court...I would say the same thing. Because I believe in the Constitution. and I still think with are going to see many articles about Ray--because it is close to his day in court.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 11, 2013 - 8:45 pm

    not "with"--"we"

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 11, 2013 - 8:49 pm

    bizaar...a challenge...show me where I accused someone of a crime...

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 11, 2013 - 8:58 pm

    "I truly hope that we have more young people, such as Todd White, who believe in our constitution and who will be willing to serve in public office"--if this young person understands our constitution--then he knows people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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  • John WSeptember 12, 2013 - 6:45 am

    Fran, I think you need some serious medication. Your all over the map on issues and not even close to consistent. You're personality is very obsessed, for example Nutting and Harper seem to be your focus recently. Nutting charged with crimes you scream, "innocent until proven guilty". Harper, charged with nothing, just a community activist your opposed to, is guilty by Fran of everything. News flash Fran, your an unstable person and need some help. You may be the queen of lengthy blogs, but your not in a position to sit in judgement of anyone. Maybe I could make a suggestion, you need a hobby. Something other than being an annoyance to the other readers of these articles. On the other hand, when you have relative input to the subject matter of an article please post it, You have every right to express your views, and when related to the article issue, your views are undoubtedly worthwhile reading for everyone. Please keep in mind this venue is not Twitter or Facebook, every thought that passes through your mind doesn't need to end up here.

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  • EvelynSeptember 12, 2013 - 7:04 am

    Actually, "John W", Fran is exceedingly consistent, your medico-psycho babble notwithstanding. Perhaps the problem simply is that her range of interests exceeds your capacity.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 12, 2013 - 7:52 am

    Good morning, Fran. Try to play nice.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 12, 2013 - 7:58 am

    John W, the reality of this forum is that it is more like a community bulletin board with no posting protocol. Useful context is directly proportional to use. Frequent visits help.

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  • 1036-FrankSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:33 am

    From what I recall, it is because of the law that Nutting can't vote on any issues of a financial nature. This therefore makes Nutting as an elected public official unable to perform a majority of his elected duties. His inability to serve his district is affecting the tax payers and the county. He should have stepped down long ago as many have suggested. His actions are a first in recent county history and because of them, I continue to suggest the BOS come up with an ordinance to address when a Supervisor can't vote due to "incapacity" as in a legal incapacity such as an indictment or arrest or other issues. there should be a procedure in place where the BOS can vote by majority to replace by a limited term appointment someone to handle the situation of serving in their place when faced with a Supervisor unable to perform their duties.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:40 am

    John W...if you do not like my posts--dont read them. Im sorry you do not believe in the Constitution...It is a great Document. I write about what I know--Ms. Harper is from where I live...so I know what is happening up here. As far as Facebook--get with the times...Im signed in under my facebook account--just as many politicians are now signed in that way...but you might drop your remarks on their many pages--start with CEDAC...then move onto CEDAPP. If I am just dropping links...it gives people a different point of view. I do suggest reading the Constitution. And I can place several links showing how Harper and many political people are working together to "do what they want"--it is an impressive list. Many of Harpers emails contain very high profile names. Let alone all the government documents with her name on them...lots of treasures. I am being nice to those people--because I believe Harper lied to them about what our community wants. Again John...1st amendment...you know freedom of speech. So being really nice...dont read my posts. Saves you the heartache of caring for my emotional stability. But I do appreciate it. Thanks.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:43 am

    Frank...it is a good thing the local government knows the law about what Ray can do (shhhhhh they have lawyers)--or are you saying they should step down as well?

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:46 am

    Good morning Phil.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:48 am

    The following links are the other side of the coin...I dont normally do this...but every once in awhile someone requests it...such as John. Placerville DA Vern Pierson’s assistant outed as anonymous shill blogger “Justice Insider” - See more at: http://www.inedc.com/1-4863#sthash.7Qc7e6Yv.dpuf

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:50 am

    http://nevadastatepersonnelwatch.wordpress.com/tag/vern-pierson/ I am going to think that Pierson is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law...or he should step down until this is "sorted"out.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:52 am

    http://en.wordpress.com/tag/vern-pierson/ Blogs about: Vern Pierson

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:55 am

    Auditor-Controller Joe Harn's Concerns Dismissed by County Counsel - See more at: http://www.inedc.com/1-3029#sthash.DM12OLIB.dpuf However how much does Mr. Harn make?

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:58 am

    Kim Kerr Savaged by former employer in Grand Jury Report - See more at: http://www.inedc.com/1-5467#sthash.rhRYrUx4.dpuf

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 8:59 am

    CAO’s inner circle of incompetence http://www.mtdemocrat.com/letters/caos-inner-circle-of-incompetence/

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 9:01 am

    I could go on and on John...so should all of them step down? Or should everyone just quiet down and allow Ray his day in court? Shrugging shoulders. Im not the one posting letters to ignite a comment.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 9:04 am

    Want to see pictures of the Constitution, or to find coloring pages for you to color yourself? The Basics The Scales of Justice The law is the set of rules that we live by. The Constitution is the highest law. It belongs to the United States. It belongs to all Americans. The Constitution says how the government works. It creates the Presidency. It creates the Congress. It creates the Supreme Court. The Right to Assemble is a key constitutional right The Constitution lists some key rights. Rights are things that all people have just because they are alive. By listing the rights, they are made special. They are made safe. The Bill of Rights is a part of the Constitution. The Bill of Rights lists many rights of the people. I suggest starting with the coloring pages. http://www.usconstitution.net/constkidsK.html

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 12, 2013 - 9:06 am

    I am now done for awhile...unless John (palms up) did you need more links?

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  • Dee#1September 12, 2013 - 10:12 am

    Fran, this for you in case you haven't seen it yet.-----http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/09/this-could-be-the-most-ambitious-and-disturbing-social-engineering-project-ever-undertaken-by-the-federal-govt/#mbl

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  • EvelynSeptember 12, 2013 - 10:19 am

    Dee#1: I took the liberty of taking a peek at the link you left for Fran! THIS is for you.

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  • Dee#1September 12, 2013 - 10:29 am

    Evelyn, thanks for further evidence that a country ruled by law has become a country for and ruled by the lawless.

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 12, 2013 - 12:01 pm

    yep and the lawless include law enforcement and the judicial system

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  • Dee#1September 12, 2013 - 1:38 pm

    Oh, unfortunately, yes they do.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:06 am

    For those of you keeping score, this is the first letter endorsing Todd White for Ray Nuttings seat on the board.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 6:34 am

    Dee #1, the objective of HUD's diversification plan is to achieve a 50.1 % majority of government dependent voters in every district in America. Politics is a blood sport and the left deals in the death of liberty.

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  • EvelynSeptember 13, 2013 - 6:43 am

    This letter endorsing TW for Sup (well observed, Cookie) is a messy jumble of catchy sound-bites and noble platitudes that could have been better written by a high school freshman writing a "Why I Love America" essay.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 6:53 am

    Thank you Evelyn.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 6:55 am

    Phil, you have to check this out. An insect has been discovered to have its hind legs synchronized by gears. http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/science/2013/09/this-insect-has-the-only-mechanical-gears-ever-found-in-nature/

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 13, 2013 - 7:10 am

    Amazing, Cookie. I wonder. Are libs "gear brained"? Is there a lib-telepathic-lockstep-gear-brain thing going on? Are leaf hoppers the distant ancestors of libs? . . . hmmmm . . .

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 7:33 am

    Phil, the lockstep groupthink of leftists is not mechanical. It is more telepathic and engrained in our dna, the examples in nature would be a school of fish or a flock of birds. Any type of herd mentality is a fitting example. Common core in the education system instituted by the communists running the public schools are using that animal type behavior against us.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 8:10 am

    Good morning to ALL...thanks Dee#1 I have read many articles on HUD...not not yours--so thanks again.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 8:47 am

    http://tinyurl.com/cwguh4o Principal: ‘I was naïve about Common Core’....I have friends who have now retired because of this "common Core" coming in. They have said the "behavior" plans attached to it are too far out there. And that our kids will be tested and tested....this is all leading to distant learning....In my opinion. If you strike at a child (even metaphorically)--the parent will remove them (already happening in some places.) For distance learning--you need internet, (libraries are already preparing as hubs) and a comp--Skype will keep you in touch with a teacher. There is a big push for working at home...you are home anyway...have the child there as well. There you go ecovillages--walkable communities. Common core comes from the 60 S ....however this time it seems really dangerous with all the added items.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 8:50 am

    Who’s Minding the Schools? http://tinyurl.com/lpa4fh4

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  • Fly On The WallSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:06 am

    Bzzzzzzzz...Nutting isn't the only one who should recuse himself until this mess is straightened out. The BOS walls have ears. Bzzzzzz...Terry Gherardi is Ron Briggs former Administrator replaced by Brenda Bailey. Lest you forget Briggs + Harn + Pierson = Total Nutting $candal at taxpayers expense. Bzzzzzzz...

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  • EvelynSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:19 am

    Fly: Now THAT is interesting!!! (I hope Gherardi's replacement has better writing skills.)

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:46 am

    Maybe Terry wants to be Todd White's assistant and is kissing up already. :) Love that fly on the wall!!! I blogged Terry's name and got all the info.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 9:59 am

    10-1 that Briggs and Pierson both had input in this letter before it found its way to the MD. Speaking of letters, when will the one written on the taxpayers dime from Pierson to Briggs ever see the light of day?

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  • EvelynSeptember 13, 2013 - 10:07 am

    They gave her suggestions jotted down on Sticky Notes which she pasted together to the best of her ability.

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  • JimSeptember 13, 2013 - 11:28 am

    · Fly on the wall only has part of the story: Terry Gherardi is Supervisor Ron Briggs former Administrator aid and former Republican central Committee member along with Rons son Alex Briggs, his nephew John Bailey and Jack Sweeney’s son. Terry was replaced by Brenda Bailey, Briggs /Bailey family member. Ron Briggs father, former Senator John Briggs leads the way in this family government employment business. Ron Briggs brother-in-law, Judge Bailey’s son, was recently appointed to the EDC Veterans Affairs Commission also and will soon be working for the County in a position custom made for him by uncle Ron. I guess nepotism is just another law like the Brown Act the Briggs family find humorous. Where’s this Melody Lane when you need her?

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  • Lady BugSeptember 13, 2013 - 11:43 am

    Fly o.t. Wall says BOS walls have ears. Actually rumor has it the whole place is bugged, top to bottom, inside out. Say it ain't so, Fly o.t. Wall.

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  • R.J. CarterSeptember 13, 2013 - 12:10 pm

    Jim, thanks, that's good to know....Good grief Briggs nepotism is out of control..I guess large numbers like that on your side always make it easier to go after your political foes AKA Ray Nutting...Geez Louise, this county has become nothing more than a big box of political gerbils crawling all over each other...

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  • JimSeptember 13, 2013 - 12:27 pm

    Bug! Look in the county work orders in 1999 from General Service’s Director Derky to Communication/information technologies. I believe Frank Yoast who I went to a class with once was assigned the task. It was kept secret what was found if anything, but they spent a lot of time removing the overhead in the men’s room downstairs from the library. If there weren’t an issue, they wouldn’t have the equipment.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 12:37 pm

    Privilege of the ruling class is directly proportional to the ignorance of the voters. It is how someone like harry reid shows up at the senate with 3 bucks in his pocket and ends up worth around $40million. Public service my @$$.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 12:51 pm

    District Attorney and County Auditor Endorse Todd White Posted on September 29, 2010 by admin District Attorney, Vern Pierson & County Auditor, Joe Harn Endorse EDUHSD Board of Trustees Candidate, Todd White...http://www.electtoddwhite.com/

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 12:52 pm

    Just passing through...wink.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 12:54 pm

    Ray himself endorsed him at the time.

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  • PvillejackSeptember 13, 2013 - 2:21 pm

    Good to see the Briggs family being outted for the nepotists that they are. They also want to get as much as they can on the taxpayers dime. Particularly getting the taxpayers to cover as much of the development costs of their project adjacent to the county jail.

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  • Compass2TruthSeptember 13, 2013 - 4:16 pm

    Jim: Truth is stranger than fiction. In answer to your question about Briggs, I've been waiting for the video of the 9/10 BOS meeting to be posted. If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video link is even better!!! Click on CONSENT and OPEN FORUM to view segments as Briggs feet are held to the fire: http://eldorado.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=264 ***Melody Lane - Founder, Compass2Truth

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  • J. OthersideSeptember 13, 2013 - 4:50 pm

    Fran, don't go anywhere. Coming at issues from "random" angles is extremely useful. Especially in politics. The "randomness" is usually found to connect eventually. Keep 'em honest and keep 'em guessing!

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  • JimSeptember 13, 2013 - 6:17 pm

    Truth, how do I get information to you? PO box?

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  • Compass2TruthSeptember 13, 2013 - 7:45 pm

    Jim: For Compass2Truth contact info open the ATTACHMENTS in this link for the **8/20/13 BOS Open Forum: https://eldorado.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=1468789&GUID=6F1C1BAE-0F3D-4CE3-BED3-6E5474498E91 **Portions of the NOTICE highlighted in green were addressed to the BOS during Open Forum. Be sure to watch the VIDEO segment. You'll also find the 8/27 BOS Consent & Open Forum segments to be of equal interest.

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  • MelodySeptember 13, 2013 - 8:01 pm

    J. Otherside is right about random angles as a useful political tactic. Provided you have the facts, the direct approach is even better. You can debate opinions until the cows come home, but you can't argue with the facts.

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  • Fly On The WallSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:13 pm

    Bzzzzzz....Lookzzz and soundzzz like Melody hazzz been all over the BOS like a swarm of fliezzz on a fresh cow pucky...Bzzzzz...

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  • cookie65September 14, 2013 - 8:49 am

    This letter actually gets funnier every time you read it. I think I will save it in my documents for those days when I need a good laugh.

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  • EvelynSeptember 14, 2013 - 9:12 am

    Cookie: Being able to read the letter more than once signals extraordinary fortitude, unmatched by myself.

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  • cookie65September 14, 2013 - 9:52 am

    Evelyn, you have to at least appreciate the sophomoric desperation within this cluster of doormat bootlicking. I can help you find the humor in it. LOL!!!

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  • cookie65September 14, 2013 - 9:55 am

    The only thing missing is the tingle up Terry's leg.

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  • EvelynSeptember 14, 2013 - 10:10 am

    Believe it or not, I actually DID attempt a 2nd reading. Simply could NOT get past the first sentence, so I'll have to take your word for the "humor" part. As for the "sophomoric desperation" -- indelibly etched into my brain like a recurring nightmare.

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  • EvelynSeptember 14, 2013 - 10:19 am

    ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE: Ray Nutting's 995 Motion will be heard this coming Friday, the 20th. I trust his vehicle will be kept under lock and key between now and then and family, friends & counsel will insure his safe travel to and from Court.

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  • cookie65September 14, 2013 - 11:13 am

    Food taster? Rumor has it obama has one.

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  • EvelynSeptember 14, 2013 - 11:24 am

    . . . apparently Ronald Reagan had one (food taster). See this 1988 article. Very likely Obama has one as well.

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 14, 2013 - 4:11 pm

    Gosh, I wonder what happened to old George Washington??

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  • EvelynSeptember 14, 2013 - 4:46 pm

    Oh Brother: Oddly, I'd been wondering the exact same thing. Probably George and Patrice and the crew are on their way to Tahoe to arrange a welcoming committee, preparatory to Friday's big event.

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 14, 2013 - 8:01 pm

    Evelyn, pretty sure you are right about that!

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  • cookie65September 15, 2013 - 5:07 am

    The obama's should have to eat the crap they are serving the kids in the schools. But just like obamacare, their rules are all for thee and not for me.

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  • James E.September 15, 2013 - 8:59 am

    Cookie, any idea what the child rejected menu might be? I'm guessing vegetables and fruits while they want burgers and fries.

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  • cookie65September 15, 2013 - 9:07 am

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/28/kentucky-kids-first-lady-your-food-tastes-vomit/

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  • cookie65September 15, 2013 - 9:09 am

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Los-Angeles-Unified-School-District-LAUSD-Nutrition-School-Lunch-No-Kid-Hungry-171439851.html

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  • James E.September 15, 2013 - 10:15 am

    OK, I Googled it. As I suspected the kids don't like the new school lunches because it shifts fats and sugars to vegetables and fruits. Those children who throw the lunches on the lunch room floor and scream the lunches make them vomit reflect the failure of their parents to properly raise their children. If any of my children had acted in such a way they would have been taken to the woodshed. OK, the woodshed is no longer allowed, but how about grounded with no cell phone until they graduate from college. Finally, this new food program is dictated by the "Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010. It is a congressional dictate, not one from Mrs. Obama. Kids, blame the Congress and pass the burgers, hot dogs, fries and banana creme pie. And, a candy bar to get you through seventh period.

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 15, 2013 - 10:42 am

    This blog is suppose to be regarding the topic of the letter, however, since we are talking about these charming children and the food they eat, I will share a story. I worked out at the Sly Park Outdoor Campus for a short time in the kitchen. The older woman that was a cook there, prepared the most awesome homemade food. She made fresh bread with a big old fashion bread beater, fresh roasts, vegetables and desserts..such wonderful food that literally melted in your mouth. I was the clean up gal and let me tell you what a heartbreak it was to throw all the food out that these little snot nosed brats wouldn't eat and left on their plates or tossed in the garbage. I used to bring my dog a large bag of wasted food every night I worked. So here was delicious, nutritious food made with hours of labor and love tossed in the garbage with not any appreciation. Kids do not know what is best for them, they want sugary crap to eat and most of all they want there way for the most part. So Mrs. Obama gives a hoot about the health of our very unhealthy nation of children, wow, what a horrible person she must be. Or perhaps we have raised a nation of spoiled brats??

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  • James E.September 15, 2013 - 10:44 am

    Not germane to the Nutting debate, but I see we are about to engage in the Battle of the Debt Ceiling. It's simple really, Congress needs to raise the debt limit to pay the bills they have already authorized. Mr. Boehner is willing to raise the limit IF Social Security, Medicare, and Obamacare are all abolished (OK, perhaps I'm not being kind to Mr. Boehner, but I'm close to his demands). The president responds that he will not negotiate this time. I say the debt ceiling is the business of Congress. Let them raise or not raise it and be fully responsible for their actions. It will be interesting because Congress doesn't like to be responsible for anything and that's why they want the president to negotiate so he can be blamed no matter what happens. I bet Tom votes no on everything, except his salary and perks being cancelled in which case he will vote yes for his salary and perks to be continued. My carpetbagger representative.

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 15, 2013 - 11:00 am

    Yes James, speaking of spoiled brats, you really think that Congress could accept responsibility for THEIR actions...me thinks they are the older spoiled brats of our nation and their kids and grand kids are probably the ones complaining about their damn food at school..

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 15, 2013 - 11:03 am

    J. Otherside...well thanks for the invite...I have lots of links...some I send out to people from different states...l some I keep re posting...I put out a list of people captured from many posts...and it became a feeding frenzy...little did anyone realize-they were random to me. Now that list is important. I find that when people" pick" on me--ive hit a nerve...so I go back and research. My fight is in Pollock...but I am never afraid to expand my posting. Emails sent to me contain interesting people...I have chosen not to post all--I really believe they were lied to. But we shall see. As far as Ray, he is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law...under the Constitution. So when people write letters such as this--stating that someone "believes" in the Constitution--then they know Ray is innocent at this point. And they are playing a "game" to evoke emotions. Shrugging shoulders. Either you honor the Constitution or one does not. It cant be both ways. Asking someone to step down--when they have not been proven guilty in a court of law...is not recognizing the Constitution. He is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. (J. Start looking at the names of the people on Grand Juries for the last several years--see how some connect with government or groups--it is interesting.)

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 15, 2013 - 11:06 am

    Oh Brother...my grandson loves the food...except the pizza. He loves the fresh fruits and veggies. However this year he is coming in hungry...so im watching --it may be that he is growing (middle school) so I might send extra stuff.

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 15, 2013 - 11:10 am

    And that Fran is the answer; responsible parenting/grandparenting..we have become a nation of somebody else take responsibility for my kids/grandkids. And he probably is going through a growth spurt. My 5 year old grandson one day won't eat a thing and the next you can't fill him up. That's life.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 15, 2013 - 11:21 am

    Sometimes it seems we are rasing a small pony instead of a child. Now in all fairness--it may be the program our schools up here have decided on...there are still a few to chose from. Calories do matter--so I am watching. But for my little one--I think I just need to send an extra apple...or something.

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  • Oh BrotherSeptember 15, 2013 - 11:49 am

    Oh Fran, you used the A word, apple, haha, you will be called a Michelle Obama fan..just joking with you. Am in agreement with the apple and the calories. My grandkids love sugar but at my house with their sugar and butter they get hot oatmeal and they love it now.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 15, 2013 - 11:55 am

    lolol...yep--I brought him up on fruits and veggies--he even likes raw veggies. but he loves sugar...lolol He insists his mom makes the best oatmeal (she uses instant) so I no longer even talk about it. James--you are right...water is the key to human survival...

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  • Christopher PikeSeptember 16, 2013 - 3:00 pm

    Anyone know if it's legal for a Grand Jury member to discuss the case after the indictment has been issued?

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 16, 2013 - 3:07 pm

    Christopher PikeSeptember 16, 2013 - 3:00 pm Anyone know if it's legal for a Grand Jury member to discuss the case after the indictment has been issued? I was told no--because an indictment is just letting a person know they will be going to court on issues that the Jury finds to to be addressed in a court of law...does not mean anyone is guilty. so for someone to talk....not good. From what I understand

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  • EvelynSeptember 16, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    Christopher Pike: California Penal Code re Grand Juries here. I've just done a cursory skim; Section 924 reads: "Every grand juror who willfully discloses the fact of an information or indictment having been made for a felony, until the defendant has been arrested, is guilty of a misdemeanor." Have a look to see if perhaps there's another relevant section.

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  • Christopher PikeSeptember 18, 2013 - 11:51 am

    Hi Evelyn, Thanks for the info. According to the section you quoted, it would only be against the law up to the point where the subject of the indictment was arrested. That doesn't seem right to me, since a trial has not happened, so talking about the particulars of the case could poison a potential jury pool. Interesting, since I think someone on the Grand Jury that indicted Mr. Nutting has been talking, but I don't have proof of it. More to come if I find out for sure...

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  • EvelynSeptember 18, 2013 - 12:22 pm

    Christopher: Possibly rules differ for Criminal v. Civil Grand Juries. This is way beyond my area of competence. I totally agree with you about the possible jeopardy of poisoning the jury pool. And it would not be the least surprising if someone has been talking out of shop. Please DO keep us informed of anything you learn.

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