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From page A5 | September 13, 2013 | 112 Comments

EDITOR:

Apparently my last letter to the editor of the Mountain Democrat caused someone to send me a brochure explaining the reason for the pink tubing that is being pushed along our mountain roads. Its purpose is to get the federal government’s “Common Core” education program rammed into every school in this country regardless of where it may be. Not only will this make all K-12 children get to the same educational level year by year but will also generate, for the federal government, a database of what all those children did at least though grade 12.

Remembering Nazi Germany during the 1930s, how long now will it take for the mighty federal government to decree that all children in K-12 must wear similar uniforms? And, when they have learned to march, as they must learn to raise their arms in ”Sieg Heil” poses when they pass by our leader’s podium (assuming he can see them past the teleprompters)?

The idiots who voted in this administration are repeating the action of the German citizens who gladly welcomed Hitler to take over their country. I hope they like what they are getting.

RAY LABAHN
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  • J ReedSeptember 12, 2013 - 11:35 am

    Mr. LaBahn, that "pink tubing" is not about Common Core. That "pink tubing" is about installation of fiber optic cable to bring greater information movement speeds into our county. There are actually still some people in my area who cannot get internet connection at all. This will also serve for phones, replacing the copper cable that was installed in the 1930s in many parts of the county.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieSeptember 12, 2013 - 12:37 pm

    Mr Labahn -- This is hilarious. You have just replaced Rush Limbaugh as my favorite comedian.

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  • James E.September 12, 2013 - 2:16 pm

    Pink tubing snaked along mountain roads to enforce educational dictates from the government? The question of the day: Has Mr. Labahn's mind gone off the side of one of those mountain roads and crashed to the rocks below? On the other hand, as Germany of the 30s and 40s used the colors of black, red, and white, Mr. Labahn may be right that the colors of the new Nazi American will be pink, pink, and pink. Who knows?

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  • James E.September 12, 2013 - 2:26 pm

    Oh, come on, Mr. Labahn letting us know about the pink tubing enforcing educational dictates. Mr. Labahn has just pulled our collective legs. What a joker he is.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 12, 2013 - 2:45 pm

    James, I see you have rejoined the battle. How's th' pooch?

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  • James E.September 12, 2013 - 3:30 pm

    Phil, the pooch gets examined tomorrow afternoon.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:11 am

    James, I'll be thinking of you and the little dog.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:15 am

    Ray Labahn, can you provide me with any source of the brochure? Name, organization, website? Common Core doesn't need fiber optic cables to destroy the critical thinking and discernment skills of the kids.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:17 am

    A google search suggests Ray Labahn may not be too far off. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/07/16/att-helps-schools-meet-bandwidth-surge-from-common-core-state-standards/

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:19 am

    http://www.missourieducationwatchdog.com/2013/07/florida-mom-addresses-school-board.html

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:20 am

    http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/DigitalEducation/2013/07/tech_challenges_lead_oklahoma_.html

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:21 am

    http://thejournal.com/articles/2013/06/03/missouri-school-district-upgrades-fiber-optic-network-to-10-gbps.aspx

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:21 am

    http://eagnews.org/americans-turning-against-common-core-related-student-database/

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 5:35 am

    The objective of Common Core is the abandonment of logic and reason in order to create and nurture pure unthinking emotion. The braintrust that greeted Gen Petraeus at CUNY this week is a exactly what common core is intended to do. Common; meaning no individual thought. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/358394/without-honors-editors

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 6:26 am

    http://excelined.org/2013/02/common-core-when-plan-b-begins-to-look-pretty-good/

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 8:53 am

    No takers on any of the links I posted? And no apologies from Kirk MacKenzie for his "aggressive ignorance".

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 9:00 am

    Mr. Labahn, did the brochure look anything like this? http://www.venturausd.org/certhr/HTMLobj-629/Informational_Brochure.pdf

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:02 am

    Cookie....I keep thinking of an "Umbilical cord"...then I get creeped out. A cord leading to the government. Many times my grandson and I leave the cell phone on the table and run---we laugh at the freedom of not being found. E/readers and comps are not "sustainable" --and not everyone can afford a comp or an e/reader. I went to Harpers broad band meeting--came out and asked about "distance learning"--they acknowledged that I was correct...that it is already happening. which I had known. Most will not realise it--until it is here. They think someone cares if they get to watch netflix....

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  • Robert Van GilderSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:03 am

    Common Core will allow true teachers the opportunity to teach. NCLB allowed teachers to "teach" to a test...namely the STAR test. NCLB was a disaster- it has actually put many "achieving" schools in El Dorado County into Program Improvement. As far as the pink cables, dunno.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:08 am

    Why National Standards Won’t Fix American Education: Misalignment of Power and Incentives By Lindsey Burke and Jennifer A. Marshall http://tinyurl.com/2e9sdm3

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:11 am

    http://www.heritage.org/issues/education/national-standards-and-testing good site to start reading on which states are already rejecting the common core ideas.

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  • kggSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:14 am

    common core standards are simply a way to teach children - it has nothing to do with nazi's or government plots. one of the standards for junior/senior high school students is "Demonstrate knowledge of eighteenth-, nineteenth- and early-twentieth-century foundational works of American literature, including how two or more texts from the same period treat similar themes or topics." http://www.corestandards.org/

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  • rodSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:29 am

    "The idiots who voted in this administration are repeating the action of the German citizens who gladly welcomed Hitler to take over their country. I hope they like what they are getting." TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN... Thanks Ray

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 9:32 am

    kgg, do you moonlight as a lamppost?

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 9:36 am

    kgg...did someone say it wasnt just a way to teach children? If you are a teacher --then you know that every time someone comes up with a "new plan" it is something that is rarely "new" and becomes more trouble than it was worth. This "new" system will have even more "testing" to it. Which in turn will put more pressure on teachers. But the newest element...is that most testing is being moved to comps. I was a participant in some of the new testing...it is not done with paper and pencil--it is clicking on boxes via the net. I like that my grandson school still has them actually "write" ...instead of only clicking off items all the time. I keep a very close eye on education. I am one of the few who still supports the public school system. Leave no child behind...did not work. People who are not in a classroom keep deciding for teachers who are. And it just does not work.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 9:43 am

    kgg, the typical 5 year old is capable of learning several languages all at once. Instead of taking advantage of that sponge like learning ability common core is focused entirely on social behavior. With the objective being the over-development of emotional influence and reaction rather that logic and reason. One of the modern influences behind this tragedy in education is Michelle Garcia Winner. Here is some of her work. " A treatment framework and curriculum developed by Michelle Garcia Winner targets improving individual social thinking abilities, regardless of diagnostic label." http://www.socialthinking.com/

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  • Kirk MacKenzieSeptember 13, 2013 - 10:05 am

    Cookie -- Common Core is designed to do exactly the opposite of what you claim. At the same time, your arguments ooze the exact emotionally manipulative characteristics that you rage against. It is clear why Common Core has you so scared -- young people will learning to see through your wet-paper-bag arguments.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 10:35 am

    Kirk, straight from the horses mouth....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZMhn-9SRoA

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 10:42 am

    Interview with a clinical mental health therapist on Common Core. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdPz7Eg18jU

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 10:51 am

    Next on the list for the left is the free press. There is a line in one of the star wars movies that is prophetic to where we are heading, "so this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause". http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/13/Senate-judiciary-bill-journalists

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 10:55 am

    Kirk, you are the same ignoramus who's original comment to this letter was, "This is hilarious. You have just replaced Rush Limbaugh as my favorite comedian". Making the case that you are right at home in the dark.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 13, 2013 - 10:56 am

    LINK - Pinko

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 11:06 am

    Political philosophy being presented as facts in the common core "informational literature". It is like reading ageda 21. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0iYgcRRk5w

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 11:08 am

    Very observant Mr. Phil. Like JFK said, "better red than dead."

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  • James E.September 13, 2013 - 12:03 pm

    I am not a card carrying pinko (liberal) -- I only carry two cards: Association of Military Officers, and Association of Intelligence Officers. No ACLU, AARP, or Communist Party Cards. Well, I do have Thunder Valley and Red Hawk cards. And, the Red in Red Hawk is starting to make me nervous.

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  • kggSeptember 13, 2013 - 12:08 pm

    james wrote: "I am not a card carrying pinko (liberal) -- I only carry two cards:" kgg writes: does an atm card count? how about a library card?

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  • James E.September 13, 2013 - 12:13 pm

    Damn, I do have an ATM card -- had a library card years ago, but it's out of date.

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  • James E.September 13, 2013 - 12:18 pm

    ADDED: And a Medicare Card, but no Obamacare card to burn.

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 12:23 pm

    Here is some of the intolerance being tawt at the institutions of lower learning. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/12/Student-Protestors-Rip-2977-American-Flags-Out-of-the-Ground

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 13, 2013 - 12:56 pm

    James, we all know how libs lie. Expect the polygraph. You and your little dog too.

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  • James E.September 13, 2013 - 1:01 pm

    Phil, not to worry, I took numerous polygraphs during my service so I'm not afraid of them. My judgment through experience -- they are a scam. Oh, we got a wiggle on those last questions, the box never lies, so tell me the truth. My response was always well, you box is lying now, I was telling the truth. I always passed.

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  • James E.September 13, 2013 - 1:02 pm

    *** your

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  • James E.September 13, 2013 - 1:06 pm

    Oh, my poor little dogs strapped up to the box. Sad. And, when they were pressed to tell the truth would they bark or be silent?

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 13, 2013 - 1:13 pm

    James, it's gonna be rrrrrrrrrrrrrough!

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  • K.G.September 13, 2013 - 1:30 pm

    The government already has a database of our children and has for several years. They have their names, addresses, health information, grades, STAR testing results, parental information and any issues the student may have that pertains to their education. How do I know this? My husband is a data analyst and his job is to create reports for different governmental agencies on a daily basis. Generally these are financial reports having to do with educational funding. In regard to the Common Core teaching: I am a parent of two children and have experienced a myriad of problems with "teaching to the test". Everything from my children spending the majority of their time studying one subject at the sacrifice of another, to property values being affected by the local school’s grades based on how well they taught their children to the test. It's been ridiculous. The pink tubing has nothing to do with information being gathered on our children. But, perception is reality, and conspiracy theorists will always be out there waiting for the next non-issue that they can get up in arms about.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 2:09 pm

    lolol...the pink tubing is for the net. The net connects everyone together. There are no theories...it is what it is...remember the big scandal the USA just went through on spying. That aside...distance learning is real. New programs have MORE testing on comps (which means more teaching to test) I was part of the first group of STAR testing...which replaced another testing--which replaced yet another. This new program is not different--just repackaged. Remember SRA reading kits in the classroom? repackaged as hooked on phonics. For me the best education we had was in my grandfathers day---many grades in one class---studying basics...they went out into the world (after chores) and created the car, computer, phone, television....nothing fancy done except good hard work and small books to work out of. Text books are big business....find out who got the contract on this new system...and everything that goes with it. With less logging--more tech gadgets...paper is expensive and will go up as we go further toward the technology available. And all those pretty pics in the texts...new comps for the testing has to be bought...money. Ill get back to you in five years...another program will be out. Do you know how much money was spent on star?

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 2:13 pm

    California appears poised to move ahead with plans to roll out computerized testing aligned to Common Core standards in 2015. http://tinyurl.com/lv39g8x

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 2:17 pm

    "If all goes on schedule, beginning in 2014-15 students will use computers to take tests designed to measure their performance on the Common Core standards that California and most states adopted two years ago. The new tests will involve watching videos, using cursors to draw or move items and writing reports after doing research online." http://tinyurl.com/lk4eans

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 13, 2013 - 2:18 pm

    welcome to the new test http://www.smarterbalanced.org/sample-items-and-performance-tasks/

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  • kggSeptember 13, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    Fran asked: "kgg...did someone say it wasnt just a way to teach children?" kgg replied: please read my letter again. in it i reponded to ray's assertion: "Remembering Nazi Germany during the 1930s, how long now will it take for the mighty federal government to decree that all children in K-12 must wear similar uniforms?". i wrote "common core standards are simply a way to teach children - it has nothing to do with nazi's or government plots." i am not attacking or defending the program - just pointing out that it is not a repeat of the nazi takeover of germany.

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  • James E.September 13, 2013 - 4:38 pm

    Just back from the Vet. Dogged a bullet. Did a biopsy on the lump and cancer not detected. It turned out to be a lump resulting from a recent rabies shot. Phil, this little girl is now ready to be polygraphed. And, she will tell the truth about her lump.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 13, 2013 - 4:40 pm

    RRRRRRRRRough!

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 13, 2013 - 5:59 pm

    LINK - Voyager 1 Has Left the Solar System

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  • cookie65September 13, 2013 - 7:54 pm

    James, I told you about rabies shots and little dogs. Great news about your little pal.

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  • cookie65September 14, 2013 - 7:35 am

    This has to be one of the funniest interviews I have ever seen. One of the gun-grabbing leftists in Colorado who just got her rear end handed to her in the recall election whines that voter suppression is why she lost. If you ever needed any more evidence of the clueless left, she is it. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/09/78914-watch-cnn-anchor-cut-off-gun-grabber-senator-whining-about-colorado-recall-defeat/

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  • EvelynSeptember 14, 2013 - 8:01 am

    "Ideologies are dangerous, because they are immune to facts." ~ Paul Craig Roberts

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  • DarrinSeptember 22, 2013 - 9:52 am

    I have a child in 6th grade and his teachers are all very happy to be going to the CCSS and leaving the STAR test as the bench mark. As one stated, it lets us get back to how we used to teach kids and they learned. The teachers are enthusiastic and excited to teach again. I think that is a good thing. Heil Arne Duncan!

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  • DarrinSeptember 22, 2013 - 9:58 am

    Ahh, the half-baked rantings of the anonymous Kookienumber, always the sciolist (of naught). He must work at PersonalAttacks_R_US. KELLY GARRINGTON-HIGGINS has a message for you - KookieRanter

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  • SharinSeptember 22, 2013 - 10:02 am

    Darrin, you r off-topic. Complaints welcomed at Kelly's place. Otherwise, stik to the subjekt.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 10:11 am

    http://tinyurl.com/ke3ml8w Could Competency-Based Learning Save the Common Core?

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 10:13 am

    One of the most powerful groups is "parents"--never lie to them...because if they find out...well. Just saying. Is Common Core Too Hard-Core? http://tinyurl.com/lhxwblz

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 10:19 am

    New Education Standards Will Fail Your Kids And America's Future If We Don't Act Now http://tinyurl.com/auls6vd

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 10:27 am

    Pink tubing: just one company--everyone is helping...AT&T Helps Schools Meet Bandwidth Surge From Common Core State Standards....Detroit. Georgia As Bailey Mitchell, chief technology and information officer at the Forsyth County (Ga.) Schools, states, “the new online assessments are going to require a lot of computer hardware and connectivity to enable the provision of Common Core.” Just plug in...broadband/common core...there is to be more testing--not less.http://tinyurl.com/omd9oc8 Some teachers just want to keep their jobs.I participated in the comp testing part. Read.

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  • Dee#1September 22, 2013 - 12:54 pm

    Examples of Common Core teaching----- Fourth grade students in Vermilion Parish, La. were given a homework assignment that included words like “Po Pimp” and “mobstaz,” but school officials said the worksheet was age appropriate based on an education website affiliated with Common Core education standards.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 12:57 pm

    . . . and El Dorado County has embraced Common Core. Well, at least they got the "common" part right.

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  • Dee#1September 22, 2013 - 1:08 pm

    Yes, this is being taught in El Dorado County. However, the teachers will try to explain why the "correct" answer is important. Common Core: 3 x 4 = 11 By Stanley Kurtz August 13, 2013 5:57 PM Comments180 inShare 2 Print Text This remarkable and very brief video clip shows what appears to be a teacher-training session for the controversial Common Core, our new de facto, Obama-imposed national curriculum. In it, the instructor says it’s alright if a student says 3 x 4 = 11. What matters, the instructor says, is not the right answer, but a good explanation of the “reasoning” behind whatever answer the child chooses to give. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/355713/common-core-3-x-4-11-stanley-kurtz

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:18 pm

    In Calif. district, students' Facebook posts are closely watched http://tinyurl.com/k9r4ohj Goodf--Bad...something to remember- the young also talk about the personal going on s of their adults.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:23 pm

    "Glendale district says social media monitoring is for student safety Glendale Unified is using the firm Geo Listening in a bid against cyberbullying, suicides, drugs and other ills. Critics say it infringes on privacy and steps beyond schools' jurisdiction." http://tinyurl.com/lrs2zuq Kids talk about everything with their BFF s...even the guys. So is it good to make sure that we can tell when someone is really sad...or is it good to see what someones parents where doing during disagreement? I always want to know what is going on with my grandson. But do I want him telling anyone what I do on my own time? I would think politicians would really NOT want this...or maybe they were not paying attention.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    I'm reminded of my former Algebra teacher (EDHS), who, pre-University, was the best teacher I ever had. As a matter of fact, because of her excellence, she eventually was fired/terminated/let go with some sort of excuse. Perhaps there are one or two others out there who may remember Margaret Kaste. She DEMANDED that we bring our brains (together with books) to class. Though she tolerated error (mercifully for me, 'cause math is not my "thing"), she did NOT tolerate sloppy thinking. Miss Kaste was famous for sending high school jocks down to the Remedial Math Class to ask for the correct answer. Dee#1, I suspect you know someone who remembers Miss Kaste.

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:31 pm

    School District to Monitor Students' Online Activities A suburban Chicago school district's decision to monitor its students' Internet postings has angered students, parents, and free speech advocates alike. (I believe I have pointed out several times--watch the east cost...because whatever is happening has made it to Calif.) http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/privacy/school-district-monitor-students. Defend your right to blog: The general issue of free speech on the Internet has gained so much in popularity that there is now a group based in San Francisco that advocates for "digital rights." The Electric Frontier Foundation (EEF) even has a section called the "Bloggers' FAQ on Student Blogging."

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:32 pm

    Digital rights...freedom of speech.

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  • Dee#1September 22, 2013 - 1:35 pm

    Yes Evelyn, you are correct. We call her the "thinking cap" teacher. That caused a trip to the office I believe. You have better memories of her then my guys.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:36 pm

    Ray LaBahn: I seriously doubt whether it is "this administration" that is responsible. One need only look at the path we've been on for the past 50 years to know that something beyond party politics is at play.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:40 pm

    Dee#1: In retrospect, I loved her precisely she could make me see the logic of math where others had failed. And, when all was said and done, she was fair. But she'd certainly would not get hired today.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:43 pm

    oops. .............. "But she certainly would not get hired today."

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  • Dee#1September 22, 2013 - 1:44 pm

    Evelyn. You are correct. The quality of teachers has gone dramatically since we were kids. I blame Women's Lib.

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  • Dee#1September 22, 2013 - 1:46 pm

    Meant "gone down" dramatically

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 1:49 pm

    Dee#!, here's your video clip - LINK - Wrong answers are just fine ~~~ Evelyn, I too had Miss Kaste. Her nick name was "Nasty Kaste. But I believe that Miss Kastie might not too hostile to the "3x4=11" example. If you recall Miss Kastie's tests you will recall that "show your work" was a must. If you did not show your work then it mattered not whether or not our arithmetic was correct. We got zero credit. Even back then a major component of MATH was the logical progression toward the answer. If ones logic was correct but the arithmetic contained an error partial credit was awarded. Zero credit was awarded even with perfect arithmetic was displayed without the logic trail to the answer. I suspect that "3x4=11" is simply an "efficiency example".

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  • Dee#1September 22, 2013 - 2:14 pm

    Thank you Phil. When I see 6+4=11' I think of engineers who got it wrong but their reasoning was correct. Just makes me uncomfortable. There is right; there is wrong; there can be a gray area; but 6+4=11 is always wrong.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:32 pm

    Dee#!, of course!!!!! In the real world both the arithmetic and the math have to be correct. If either are in error bridges fail rockets blow up and all sort of Sh#t happens. BUT . . . in the classroom the arithmetic precision can reasonably be subordinated to MATHEMATICAL REASONING. (The assumption being that the student has already been instructed in addition, subtraction, multiplication and division . . . ie arithmetic)

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:24 pm

    arithmetic error

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:28 pm

    BOLD off (If it hasn't been already)

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  • Dee#1September 22, 2013 - 2:31 pm

    Phil, I understand the concept however if the answer is wrong then it is not correct. Partial credit has always been around but no matter how good the reasoning if the answer is wrong,it is wrong.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:34 pm

    Phil: Yes, Miss Kaste had a nickname. And nobody I've spoken to in our post-adolescence years remembers her with anything less than respect. And, yes, also, to her insistence upon method. If we couldn't PROVE (i.e. exactly show) how the answer was reached, a correct answer was worth precisely ZERO. Did her insistence upon the written step-by-step proof of how we arrived at the answer equate to "a good explanation of the reasoning"?

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:37 pm

    Dee, if you are in a calculus class and you commit an arithmetic error but your progression toward solving an indefinite integral is perfect it would perfectly reasonable to be given > 50% credit.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:38 pm

    Evelyn, yes. The video clip oversimplifies.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:42 pm

    Phil: The video clip "oversimplifies" the parent being thrown out of the room for asking questions????????? (Mt. Dem: Are multiple ?????????s allowed?)

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:44 pm

    NOTE: Anyone may enter this conversation. The more the merrier.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    Evelyn, direct us to a comment from me that in any way references the clip you refer to - the parent tossed from the classroom was not discussing the relative merits of arithmetic precision VS. mathematical reasoning.

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:54 pm

    Phil: Sorry. Was referencing a video link I left elsewhere. HERE (No, you never did any such thing. My bad.)

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 2:56 pm

    . . . however, now I don't know what you were referencing when you said "the video clip oversimplifies".

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 3:13 pm

    Evelyn, this clip - LINK - Wrong answers are just fine aside - Are we hogging this thread? Are we too "clubby"?

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  • James E.September 22, 2013 - 2:58 pm

    Dee#1, 6+4=11 is always wrong. Unless your boss says it's right.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 3:10 pm

    James, a fellow is applying for a job in accounting. He's given a column of numbers to add up and is asked for the answer. He inquires, "What number do you want?" He got the job.

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  • James E.September 22, 2013 - 3:11 pm

    Phil, so true.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 3:14 pm

    Are we using up all the monitor ink?

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 3:16 pm

    Phil: I can take a hint!

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  • EvelynSeptember 22, 2013 - 3:47 pm

    Actually, Phil, this edition of the Mt. Dem. has -- EXCLUDING Essentials, Obituaries & Real Estate -- a total of 42 different articles up at this very moment. The "regulars" have left no footprint on most of them, making them wide open territory. And I have to go clean house now (boring), so someone can start a new conversation here.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 22, 2013 - 3:58 pm

    Evelyn, IF IT weren't for the political component implied in PLEDGE I'd recommend it for dusting. Good luck house cleaning.

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  • experimenterSeptember 22, 2013 - 4:49 pm

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm

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  • Thanks, FranSeptember 22, 2013 - 5:11 pm

    ɯs!p!oɹʎႡʇɐɹɐdodʎႡopnәsdopnәsd

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  • Thanks, FranSeptember 22, 2013 - 5:13 pm

    ˙sʞu!ʇs ƃu!qnʇ ʞu!d 'ʍʇq 'puɐ ˙uәɯoʍ ɹ!әႡʇ ɟo p!ɐ әႡʇ oʇ әɯoɔ oʇ uәɯ pooƃ ႨႨɐ ɹoɟ әɯ!ʇ әႡʇ s! ʍou

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  • Thanks, FranSeptember 22, 2013 - 5:17 pm

    ˙sʞɹɐɯ uo!ʇɐɯɐႨɔxә ʇnoႡʇ!ʍ ɹo Ⴁʇ!ʍ -- ʇuɐʇɹodɯ! ƃu!Ⴁʇәɯos ʎɐs oʇ s! ʇ! ʇႨnɔ!ɟɟ!p ʎႨq!ɹɹәʇ ʍoႡ uәʌoɹd ʍou ʇsnɾ әʌ,! ʇnq 'әɯ ssәupooƃ ˙әɹәႡ ƃu!pɐәɹ әɹɐ ʎәႡʇ ʇɐႡʍ әʞ!Ⴈ -- ʎɐs oʇ ʇuɐʇɹodɯ! ʎႨႨɐәɹ ƃu!Ⴁʇәɯos ɟo ʞu!Ⴁʇ pႨnoɔ ʎәႡʇ ʎႨuo ɟ! ʇuɐʇɹodɯ! ʎႨႨɐәɹ ƃu!Ⴁʇәɯos ʎɐs oʇ әɹәႡ ƃu!ɯoɔ ɯoɹɟ ɯәႡʇ ƃu!ʇuәʌәɹd әɹɐ puɐ ʇuәɯәɹ!ʇәɹ ɹoɟ pәuuɐႨd ʇ,uәʌɐႡ puɐ әpnɹ puɐ pәɹәʇuәɔ-ɟႨәs puɐ ƃu!ɹoq ooʇ ႨႨɐ әɹɐ әʍ ʇɐႡʇ 'ɯәႡʇ sʇsәɹәʇu! ʇɐႡʇ ƃu!Ⴁʇʎuɐ pu!ɟ ʇouuɐɔ ʎႨdɯ!s ʎәႡʇ ʇnq ɯnɹoɟ s!Ⴁʇ oʇuo ʇәƃ oʇ ƃu!ʎp әɹɐ ʎәႡʇ ƃu!ɯ!ɐႨɔoɹd sƃu!ʍ әႡʇ u! ƃu!ʇ!ɐʍ әɹɐ oႡʍ sɹәʇuәɯɯoɔ әsoႡʇ ႨႨɐ әɹɐ әɹәႡʍ

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 5:31 pm

    Nice--ive created a monster...lololol

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  • M O N S T E RSeptember 22, 2013 - 6:02 pm

    ˙u!ɐႨdɯoɔ ʎႨuo puɐ sɹәʇndɯoɔ ɹ!әႡʇ ʇɐ ʇ!s oႡʍ әႨdoәd әႡʇ ႨႨɐ ɟo ʇႨnɐɟ әႡʇ әɹɐ ƃoႨq әႡʇ uo sɯәႨqoɹd әႡʇ әqʎɐɯ ˙ʇႨnɐɟ s,әuoәɯos әɹɐ ƃoႨq s!Ⴁʇ uo sɯәႨqoɹd әႡʇ ႨႨɐ ʇsɐәႨ ʇɐ ɹo ˙ʇႨnɐɟ ɹnoʎ әɹɐ ƃoႨq s!Ⴁʇ uo sɯәႨqoɹd әႡʇ ႨႨɐ puɐ 'ɹәʇsuoɯ ɐ pәʇɐәɹɔ әʌɐႡ noʎ 'uɐɹɟ 'sәʎ

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  • M O N S T E RSeptember 22, 2013 - 6:03 pm

    Stand on your head to read these very important messages.

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  • M O N S T E RSeptember 22, 2013 - 6:07 pm

    ˙sәƃɐssәɯ ʇuɐʇɹodɯ! әsәႡʇ pɐәɹ oʇ pɐәႡ ɹnoʎ uo puɐʇs

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 6:19 pm

    @ )--,--'--- Monster...you are only touching the trouble one can get into ٩(●̮̮̃•̃)۶ ٩(-̮̮̃-̃)۶ ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶ ٩(×̯×)۶

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    ¸¸.•*¨*•*´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Thank you!

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  • Fran DuchampSeptember 22, 2013 - 6:23 pm

    ( ̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅[̲̅ ̲̅]̲̅:̲̅:̲̅:̲̅ ) <---- for anyones feelings I have hurt...I was just sharing...posting pics....pinky swear--Im done...for now. *´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•` ¤ Fran

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  • M O N S T E RSeptember 22, 2013 - 6:33 pm

    ℱяαη: м⑂ ḟℯεʟїηℊṧ @ґℯ η☺⊥ ♄üґ☂

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