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From page A5 | September 11, 2013 | 29 Comments

EDITOR:

Contrary to the popular mantra that the citizens of our country are war weary, I believe that the populous is politician weary.

We are weary of being told for years leading up to the Iraq war that all intel is bad. We’re weary of those same politicians now expecting us to believe their intel regarding Syria, Bengazi, Libya and every other recent conflict that we’re engaged in is somehow reliable. We’re weary of pretty much all stupid politicians of all races, religions and political persuasions making stupid decisions based on stupid premises to deflect from the stupid reality that they have created for all of us.

The worst thing of all is that we’re weary of all these politicians except for … the ones we voted for.

JIM MAULT
Pollock Pines

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  • MorrisSeptember 09, 2013 - 6:07 pm

    Can I get an AMEN! for Brother Jim of Pollock Pines.

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  • JanSeptember 09, 2013 - 7:15 pm

    Well said......have shared on FB.

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  • EvelynSeptember 10, 2013 - 6:55 am

    Do you know what happens to honest politicians?

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 4:41 am

    Yes Evelyn, honest politicians are excoriated for being insensitive, uncompassionate, intolerant, and attacked unmercifully by the politically correct leftists media and run out of town.

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 4:49 am

    We the people elected them. Like it or not the politicians are a reflection of the people, a reflection of society, the result of ignorance and apathy.

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  • GeraldSeptember 11, 2013 - 10:03 am

    Cookie I couldn't agree more. I mean the media in El Dorado County is so left wing that they drove that nice John Doolittle right out of office. Oh wait it was the FBI investigation in to his wifes criminal activities that did that. Yes all of the "honest politicians" have been run out of town. By the way Cookie what ever you get high on you should bring enough to share. If you believe that there is an "honest politician" then you are so high you must be in orbit.

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 10:38 am

    Gerald, I get high on life. I must not have communicated my point clearly if you took it to mean I thought there were any honest politicians. I don't believe I have ever made a comment that would give anyone that impression. I think you understood my point which is why it caused you to respond. Did you see the imposter that mclaim and our doofus secretary of state got their talking points from? http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/wall-street-journal-elizabeth-obagy-fired-96637.html

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  • Gerald LillpopSeptember 11, 2013 - 12:14 pm

    Cookie I am glad about your choice of intoxicants, However, you did reply to Evelyn with the following: Yes Evelyn, "honest politicians" are excoriated for being insensitive, uncompassionate, intolerant, and attacked unmercifully by the politically correct leftists media "and run out of town". If you really believe this perhaps I could interest you in Snipe hunting or Unicorn riding. Does this make me jaded? You bet.

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 1:07 pm

    Gerald, I realized I have made a negative reference to your precious political correctness. Which was the motive behind your reply to me so let me give an example from the private sector. The CEO of Chick-fil-A commented that he (speaking for his own personal beliefs) believed that marriage was between one man and one woman. For that HONESTY, he WAS excoriated by the leftist media and was told by the leftists political leaders of several large US cities that he and his business were not welcome and would be denied the right to do business in their towns. Honesty is one of the many casualties of political correctness and it does not matter how you try and squirm away from that fact, it is still true. Look at what happened to Dr. Ben Carson. What did the politically correct leftist media do to him?

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 1:09 pm

    So it looks as though the million muslim march came up a little short. I sure hope they lined the streets with catering trucks serving pulled pork and BLT's.

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 1:33 pm

    “It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own. It behooves him, too, in his own case, to give no example of concession, betraying the common right of independent opinion, by answering questions of faith, which the laws have left between God and himself.” “We are bound, you, I, and every one, to make common cause, even with error itself, to maintain the common right of freedom of conscience.” “It is inconsistent with the spirit of our laws and Constitution to force tender consciences.” “But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to God.” “No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority.” --Thomas Jefferson

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 1:41 pm

    Speaking of political correctness, the muslims were granted a permit to march on DC on 9/11 and the American bikers were not.

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 1:47 pm

    Hey lollipop, do you remember how the left and their media were ready to throw themselves out of high-rise windows over some guy on the radio who used a back alley term to describe a woman who publicizes her promiscuity? And that exact same media has never uttered a sound about a certain minority group who has made millions thru a version of music that is based primarily on the degradation of women. In fact they have had some of them perform at the Whitehouse.

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 11, 2013 - 2:04 pm

    YO! - Cookie - - - LINK - Dozens Attend 9/11 Million Muslim March

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  • R.J. CarterSeptember 11, 2013 - 2:45 pm

    Today a million or so bikers arrived in honor the those who fell during 9/11/01..The rumble of their shiny Milwaukee iron rattling windows throughout the city of D.C.....Meanwhile, across town at the Million Muslim March crickets were hear....

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  • R.J. CarterSeptember 11, 2013 - 3:02 pm

    **heard

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  • Phil VeerkampSeptember 11, 2013 - 3:09 pm

    in general FYI - - - Cuisinart update - - - - LINK - Study: Wind Farms Killed 67 Eagles in 5 Years

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 3:11 pm

    Phil, I was going to post that same article for you under Cuisinart but I hadn't got around to it.

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 3:16 pm

    Speaking of political correctness and leftists politicians getting a pass to say anything they want, cornel west attending and speaking at the dozen muslim march in DC is a great example.

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  • cookie65September 11, 2013 - 3:25 pm

    R.J. the dozen America hating muslims complained that the riders were revving their engines disrupting their victimization rally. We can take this country back from the America hating leftist/socialist/progressive/communists. The comment I wanted to make regarding this letter is, the slow-witted leftist lemming voters have defined their motives as voting for their own interests. I do believe some of them have been forced out of their coma seeing the results of voting for their own interests. I know many of the kids who got caught up in the cult of personality of the INCOMPETENT One are more than tired of living in mommy's basement with no jobs. Even his teleprompter doesn't believe anything he says anymore.

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  • Gerald LillpopSeptember 11, 2013 - 3:52 pm

    OK Cookie what political office did the CEO of Chick a Fillet or Ben Carson hold? What town were they run out of. What left wing media chased them from what they were and still are doing? As to political correctness are you so stupid that you think I am being politically correct? Now I know you are a little slow and can't even spell my name when it is right in front of you but my point is there are no honest politicians. So I hope I have spoken slowly enough and used small enough words for you to understand. Idiot.

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  • R.J. CarterSeptember 11, 2013 - 5:16 pm

    Just my two cents, but In my book that's even worse...Both Chick-fil-A CEO Cathy Truett and Dr. Ben Carson are merely private citizens and while not even directly involved politics they were drug through the mud and crucified by the lapdog media and other liberal zealots...Their heinous crime was nothing more than simply being free thinking good republicans who took a stand for what they believe in....One was made out to be homophobic the other labeled an "Uncle Tom"......

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  • cookie65September 12, 2013 - 4:55 am

    Do you feel better now lollipop? Political correctness prevents anyone who is honest from getting to first base in politics. You are arguing against an ocean of evidence and reality and calling me an idiot for pointing it out. We have a president who owes everything to political correctness. Crawl back under your rock and smoke some pixie dust.

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  • cookie65September 12, 2013 - 5:20 am

    Lollipop, political correctness is so abused by the leftists in politics and the media that they attempted using it to blame the Benghazi murders on a video and put the guy who made the video in jail. I wouldn't call you an idiot for your denial of it, I would call you intellectually dishonest.

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  • cookie65September 12, 2013 - 8:34 am

    Lollipop, here is an old quote from Thomas Paine that you may even recognize. "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." A modern version of that quote applying the thought police and speech police of political correctness would be, "One who dares offend cannot get into politics".

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  • cookie65September 12, 2013 - 9:54 am

    Political correctness in the schools. http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2013/09/12/mom-upset-daughter-wasnt-allowed-to-write-about-god/

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  • cookie65September 12, 2013 - 9:55 am

    "Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one's thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down" - Frederick Douglass

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  • EDC Politics as UsualSeptember 12, 2013 - 12:19 pm

    9/10/13 BOS Open Forum - Our Constitution is based upon biblical principles which were established by Almighty God. Today it’s referred to it as Law of the Land. Proverbs 22:1,5 - Choose a good reputation over great riches; being held in high esteem is better than silver or gold…Corrupt people walk a thorny, treacherous road; whoever values life will avoid it. The Bible also says “bad company corrupts good character.” The Brown Act provides citizens broad Constitutional liberties. Additionally California Ethics law provides only minimum standards for elected representatives’ conduct. They are a floor for conduct, not a ceiling. Because of the breadth of federal anticorruption law, elected officials should avoid any temptation to walk closely to the line that divides legal from illegal conduct under state law. Even though a course of action may be legal, it doesn’t make it ethical or what one ought to do. CA Transparency & Fair Process laws state in part that you have a fiduciary obligation to: • Conduct the public’s business in open & publicized meetings • Allow public inspection of documents and records generated by public agencies • Cannot retaliate against those who whistle-blow A man’s word is his honor. Chairman Briggs, you’ve reneged on your oath of office far beyond reasonable limits… I was deeply offended during the Consent portion of the August 27th BOS meeting when you impugned my good character and reputation after I challenged the content and timing of the August 20th minutes. You also refused to honor your word to respond in writing to legitimate inquiries that should be readily available as basic customer service to constituents. The public further witnessed ethical transgressions when you created a diversion by falsely accusing me of “welshing” on our last meeting held June 26th regarding the topic of the Next Economy. To welsh: 1. to fail to pay what is owed 2. to go back on one's word as in to welsh on a promise. Renege, swindle, cheat, rip off. My basic Constitutional liberties were denied when you called a 5 minute recess without cause after I challenged you on matters of ethics, transparency & accountability. Supervisor Mikalaco followed your exit from the room. Citizens cannot tolerate such repeat performances of retaliatory, passive-aggressive conduct or permit it to set a standard. To their credit Supervisors Veerkamp and Santiago remained seated which spoke volumes. During the break they both assured the Clerk of the Board was supposed to have contacted me about correcting the discrepancies and the inconsistencies concerning the posting of the public minutes and videos to the BOS calendar. I haven’t heard a peep from either the Clerk or Supervisor Briggs. That modus operandi is unacceptable by any standards. Repeated stonewalling tactics only serves to diminish the credibility of BOS leadership and their ability to function in an ethical, transparent and accountable manner. Does the Board have any comments in this regard? (Chairman Briggs, now would be an appropriate time to demonstrate whether you are a man or a mouse. A sincere public apology for your disrespectful and unethical conduct would do wonders to improve the authenticity of EDCs leadership. It would also provide reporter Chris Daley an opportunity to redeem the Mtn. Democrat’s tainted reputation.) (Thank you for the opportunity to make my point about character & public service ethics.) Madam Clerk: Please ensure these documents are properly entered into the public record and posted with the appropriate title in today’s minutes: “BOS Ethics, Transparency and Accountability.” Melody Lane - Founder, Compass2Truth **SEE FULL TRANSCRIPT: http://inedc.com/1-5980

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  • EDC Politics ContinuedSeptember 12, 2013 - 12:28 pm

    9/10/13 Consent - Chairman Briggs, back in May you publicly committed to respond to me in writing concerning the lack of policy consistency and the timely posting of BOS minutes. On June 25th you were reminded that a written response explaining the BOS deviation from the former practice of listing names & topics in the minutes was expected no later than the end of business day, June 28. There appears to be a double standard, or at best, staff incompetence…Perhaps there’s more going on than meets the eye…??? Before I continue, permit me to remind the Board of your fiduciary obligations and the criminal sanctions as they pertain to the Brown Act and Board minutes… I’d like to cite a few excerpts from the 15-page notarized affidavit submitted to the 2010 Grand Jury re: May 2010 RMAC Brown Act meeting with Ron Briggs, County Counsel Mike Ciccozzi & Mtn. Democrat reporter Chris Daley: (35) Ciccozzi: “…The legislative body has the right to approve the minutes, as long as they don’t abuse it. The public may request corrections, but RMAC is under no obligation to do so…They are your minutes, to your liking as long as they reflect the substance of the meeting as a broad brush, not a fine point.” (**It’s noteworthy that on several occasions I’d appropriately requested corrections to the minutes but they had been denied and deliberately falsified.) (36)…“The legislative body need not even hear what the public wants. The rights of the public are to address what’s on the agenda. Nothing says the legislative body must listen to it, adopt it or put it on the agenda…The Brown Act is designed to ensure people’s business…The Board of Supervisors, City Council, RMAC are controlled so the public can participate. RMAC must do so fairly and with decorum. They are your proceedings.” (72) I emphasized this section of the Brown Act reinforces the right to brief discussion “to permit a member of the public to raise an issue or problem with the body, or to permit body to provide information to the public, provide direction to its staff, or schedule the matter for a future meeting.” (65) Briggs: “…It’s a lot of hard work and you eat a lot of crap for free…You’re an extension of the BOS and County….If someone is saying something that is not correct, you need to protect yourselves. Go hire a lawyer. If someone is continuing the County would probably assist and would seek a restraining order. The public’s business has to be conducted…” (**Briggs was falsely insinuating that I was the problem.) (68)…“I think, speaking for myself as a Supervisor, I’m going to give you as much support as I can…I want to help defend you…I don’t want you guys to worry that you’re going to get your names flashed all over the paper or someone is going to say something that is not flattering or untrue. I would eagerly help use the County resources to help prosecute your wish for RMAC and the RMP.” (82)…(After an interruption a State employee) remarks, “Any other public comments that anyone would like to address on the Brown Act?” (No response) He continues, “Mike, we appreciate your being here…and very eloquently spoken, as usual.” (83) Ciccozzi retorts with a laugh, “That’s why Ron hired me!” THIS IS NO JOKING MATTER. These questions beg timely answers: 1. When may I expect a written explanation why my name has been obscured from BOS attachments & the requested changes not made? (*cited below) 2. Explanation for the obvious wink given by County Counsel Ed Knapp to reporter Chris Daley during the Consent portion of 8/27/13 meeting? 3. CAO Form Request for Agenda Item…May we anticipate one for the BOS? Do you have any questions or comments at this time? Madam Clerk: Please ensure these items are entered into the public record and posted as “BOS Fiduciary Obligation” (6 items/Questions with copies to DA, Sheriff & Publisher Esposito) **SEE FULL TRANSCRIPT: http://inedc.com/1-5980

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