Wednesday, April 23, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

Quarry closes in dispute

EDITOR:

Thank you Mountain Democrat for having the courage to print the March 22 story. Special thanks to Dawn Hodson for writing both sides of the issues and reporting accurately.

Air Quality Management District Mr. Johnston’s statement about how his department is funded, by permit fees, explains a lot. In order for his department to exist, they must collect fees and fines. How does paying a fee or fine do anything, except fund the department? The definition of a permit or license is “permission to do something that is otherwise illegal.” So, pay the money and it’s alright. They are not saying “don’t pollute.” It’s alright if you pay license fees and permit fees, plus $60/per ton of emissions. These self-feeding, self-funding agencies need to be stopped.

The people have been duped. These agencies are not about saving the planet. To save the air, they take tractors and trucks away from honest citizens who are trying to support their families, while their own bureaucrats fly off in the publically-funded, air-polluting jets. That equipment is sold or moved to another state or country. How does that save the planet? Last time I checked, it is all the same planet with only one atmosphere. I am not against better technology or clean air and water. Tractors and equipment wear out. It will be replaced if there are still any companies left in business to buy them.

Not everyone can work for the government. We need private enterprise to create real jobs and pay fair taxes, to pay for the necessary services we desire like police, fire, etc. This country was founded on personal freedom and responsibility and became the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world by free enterprise and limited government. The greatest regulator is the free market. It plays no favorite and it reacts instantly.

Government jobs are a net loss. They are paid for by productive, hardworking people, known as the taxpayers. Government is a service, paid for by the people. It was never intended to be self-funding, that is a conflict of interest. We the people choose the services we deem necessary and pay for them with appropriate taxes and fees. Anyone who believes the government can provide all the jobs, housing, food and enterprise should wake up. Read history or move to a communist country and see how it works for them. It has never succeeded in the history of the world, with the exception of the very few at the top, in the royal palace telling the rest of the serfs what to eat, where to work and how to live. Wake up America!

ROB FINDLETON
Placerville

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  • BMarch 28, 2013 - 1:02 pm

    one if by land two if by sea grab your musket boys....... ROB FINDLETON FOR PRES.....

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  • EvelynApril 04, 2013 - 9:28 am

    Mr. Findleton: You make altogether too much sense. HALT!

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  • cookie65April 05, 2013 - 6:52 am

    Replace "Air Quality Management" with "Department of Motor Vehicles". It only exists to confiscate from productive citizens to provide paychecks to non-productive citizens. I have made this point before but it hasn't gone over well because it is a shock for most people, but the public sector does not pay taxes, they only consume taxes.

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  • cookie65April 05, 2013 - 7:14 am

    Here is a perfect example of how the left continues to march forward it there quest to control all our lives. http://www.kcra.com/news/Bill-aims-to-lower-teen-voter-preregistration-age/-/11797728/19629992/-/ttlc8w/-/index.html

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  • cookie65April 05, 2013 - 7:15 am

    *in their quest*

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  • James SmithApril 05, 2013 - 7:26 am

    www.killcarb.org

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  • NancyApril 05, 2013 - 7:28 am

    Mr. Findleton, it is not about your quarry business or air quality. It is about controlling your life, picking the winners and the losers, and supplying high paying jobs to those who collect the fees that pay their salary. I call it a shake down. I do not understand how our county BOS has allowed the State or Feds to run loggers, miners, lumber, and now your quarry out of business. Who is next? Our wine industry? In my opinion, the BOS needs to grow some big ones and tell the State/Feds and their District czars to get out and stay out. Otherwise, maybe it is time for El Dorado County to secede and form a new state with our own governor and constitution.

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  • James SmithApril 05, 2013 - 7:31 am

    What you have to understand is that the Government Trolls are like a Pack of Wolves waiting to take a bite out of you. After you get your first fine, then you are a marked target. The bureaucrats conspire with each other. http://www.basslakeaction.org/PDF_files/SacBee-061107.pdf

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  • cookie65April 05, 2013 - 7:31 am

    They discovered a tunnel to the bank with one of the easiest sold frauds ever conceived of. http://www.forbes.com/sites/harrybinswanger/2013/04/03/global-warming-was-it-just-a-beautiful-dream-after-all/

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  • James SmithApril 05, 2013 - 7:34 am

    Here's another article where Lennar got tagged for a similar half million dollar fine only a couple years later by a different air quality management district on another project. http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/EPA-report-Shipyard-project-minimizing-dust-3203774.php

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  • EvelynApril 05, 2013 - 8:46 am

    Mr Findleton, "envision" the opportunity arising from the sundry community i.d. processes being engaged in throughout the County. Take, for instance, Camino or Pollock Pines. These i.d. groups produce “visions” of what they want their communities to look like 25 years from now. They enlist “stakeholders”. Why not a "vision" of the stakeholders in your community telling the County to SCRAM? Cease interfering with legitimate enterprise. Ditch the Next Economy, which is about promoting special interests. The possibilities for the existing economy are endless, if only the government would cease depriving entrepreneurs of oxygen.

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  • cookie65April 05, 2013 - 8:51 am

    This is how it looks on a national level. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-05/people-not-labor-force-soar-663000-90-million-labor-force-participation-rate-1979-le

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 05, 2013 - 12:09 pm

    http://news.yahoo.com/caterpillar-laying-off-460-workers-cites-weakness-mining-181024432--sector.html Caterpillar laying off 460 workers, cites weakness in mining. New story

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  • MartinApril 06, 2013 - 11:10 am

    New Discovery: NASA Study Proves Carbon Dioxide Cools Atmosphere: http://principia-scientific.org/supportnews/latest-news/163-new-discovery-nasa-study-proves-carbon-dioxide-cools-atmosphere.html

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 06, 2013 - 12:21 pm

    LINK - More fraud in climate science ". . . Most significantly, the scientists made no explanation for changing these dates. It is as if they wanted to hide this decline, y’know? - The chart on the right, by McIntyre, illustrates the fraud. The black line shows the temperature numbers of the ocean cores used by Marcott. The red line shows the temperature numbers, as originally published in the scientific literature, for these ocean cores. The discrepancy here is so egregious that it screams at you. More important, as John Hinderaker says, - The publicly available evidence suggests that alarmist scientists have repeatedly committed fraud in research conducted and papers published that were paid for by United States taxpayers. It seems inconceivable that felonies have not been committed in connection with those frauds. Are there not criminal statutes that prohibit the publication of fraudulent data in taxpayer-supported research? . . . "

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 12:36 pm

    For over three years it's been clear that fraudulent science has been used to prop up "global warming/climate change". See: HERE. In large measure the transformation of the existing economy to the Next Economy is underpinned by manufactured "science".

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 06, 2013 - 1:02 pm

    LINK - Planetary Boundaries as Power Grab

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 1:31 pm

    Phil: When the subject of UN diktat arises, the "deniers" rush in to say it ain't so (i.e. the UN is a toothless talk shop, with no real power over local affairs). So . . . who really is in charge of what happens here, and who should be?

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  • James E.April 06, 2013 - 1:55 pm

    Phil, read that site. Hard to tell the real conspiracies from the illusions. It makes my eyes cross.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 06, 2013 - 3:07 pm

    Evelyn, James – Imagine a continuum beginning with yourself and continuing upward through your family, your neighborhood, community, city, county, state, nation . . . planet. Ask yourself, “Where are there NOT “cross jurisdictional” issues”? When a wife vetoes a husband’s plans, when a neighborhood vetoes your development, when a neighboring county appropriates your water, when the Nation or the UN attempt to assert varying levels of standing in subordinate affairs it is tempting to cry, “conspiracy”. What is the difference between the SAN STINO vs NO SAN STINO question and EL DORADO COUNTY vs AGENDA 21? If “agenda 21” ought to have no standing in El Dorado County then neither should “no san stino” busybodies have any standing in the property owner’s plans . . . or . . .??? The field of play is populated with interests ranging from individuals to global interests. There is no conspiracy. Neither is there much REAL autonomy (freedom). Stop the world and let me off . . . . I am “free” in my recliner . . . I think . . . I might go out and run my lawn mower, but there may be complaints . . . .

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 3:36 pm

    You are correct. Autonomy / Representative Government seems to be a thing of the past. Perhaps it would help if those purporting to represent us finally admitted that global governance has arrived.

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 3:43 pm

    P.S. Would anyone like to make a case for centralized government and globalization being some sort of panaceæ?

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  • James E.April 06, 2013 - 3:43 pm

    UN uber alles?

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 06, 2013 - 3:44 pm

    I think "global governance" overstates/concedes too much. Local governance is not zero. Neither is global influence omnipotent.

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 3:55 pm

    Local government may not be zero. But it certainly no longer is representative. Attend City Council and/or BOS meetings for a year or two. Read the agendas and accompanying documents. Research the issues. Analyze votes taken. These are crucial for ascertaining the true levers of power.

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 4:01 pm

    James, denken Sie, die Vereinten Nationen beeinflusst unsere Regierung?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 06, 2013 - 5:19 pm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/9968494/Roosevelts-gold-confiscation-could-it-happen-again.html .Roosevelt's gold confiscation: could it happen again?

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  • James E.April 06, 2013 - 5:43 pm

    Evelyn, I can order a beer and bread and butter in a Gasthaus, but that's about it.

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 6:00 pm

    James: Long ago I spoke mediocre German. Today I use Google TRANSLATE. This is my secret. You can use it for any language.

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  • DB SmithApril 06, 2013 - 6:14 pm

    owH bouta igp atinl velynE. My wife and her sisters can rap that stuff off so fast I don't know what their saying.

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  • EvelynApril 06, 2013 - 6:36 pm

    DBAY Ithsmay: Igpay Atinlay isway AYWAY overway ymay eadhay! (Turns out there's also a Pig Latin Translator. Fortunately!)

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  • EvelynApril 07, 2013 - 6:32 am

    JUST HOW STUPID ARE WE? (book) - HERE - The author shows that most of us are: (1) ignorant about major international events, (2) know little about how our government runs and who runs it, (3) are nonetheless willing to accept government positions and policies even though a moderate amount of critical thought suggests they are bad for the country, and (4) are readily swayed by stereotyping & simplistic solutions.

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  • FarmerApril 07, 2013 - 8:31 am

    El Dorado county has done nothing to preserve industries that have supported the families that have called it home for decades. Instead, we have shut down timber, construction, mining, and farming industries to make sure the handful of liberal minds and their retirement homes are preserved. Maybe it's me, but I think everyone has forgotten who the real people of this county are. It's sad to see families move away from a great place because there are very few employers anymore that can offer a paycheck to support a family with. El Dorado county will soon be a large retirement facility for everyone who wants a little slice of that "country" livin', which is fine, but newcomers need to understand local families need to work and develop their businesses

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 07, 2013 - 8:36 am

    Farmer...nice--thank you. At our "visioning" meeting -I keep bringing up children and the families who have lost everything because the mill closed--no one is listening. Thank-you for your remarks...it was nice to hear some one gets it. Heal what is here first--before you add to the problem.

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  • EvelynApril 11, 2013 - 7:53 am

    "Poll: Most Americans Feel Threatened By Government" HERE - And 75 percent of those surveyed said they don't trust the government to "do the right thing" most of the time, if at all.

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