Monday, April 21, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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Respect for sheriff

EDITOR:

Sheriff John D’Agostini’s letter to Joe Biden is to be congratulated. However, clear thinking and common sense is not something our Vice President is noted for. He wouldn’t listen anyway. To go on record as opposing the left-wing policies of those who would abrogate or otherwise destroy our freedom under the Constitution takes courage, and for that we all owe our sheriff lasting respect.

His idea of treating the mentally ill instead of turning them out on the street would go a long way in curbing gun-related crime. Also, Hollywood has to have the burden of blame for producing movies of such unprecedented realism and violence that it can’t help but affect our young people to a degree. The recent attacks on our children are an abomination beyond words. It makes me sick at heart to think of it, but banning guns and depriving people of their last line of personal defense will not stop such eventualities. Did passing laws against drugs stop the drug trafficking? Of course not; it’s the same thing with guns. Remember, once a right is gone it’s gone forever.

ROY HILL
Garden Valley

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  • RichardFebruary 01, 2013 - 9:16 am

    "Good God Man", so we allow the gun deals supported by the NRA lobbyist to continue to sell guns because it’s a mental health problem. So what happens in 10 years, when instead of 2 1/2 million AR-15 in circulation theirs 6 million? You’re thinking with your gun instead of your common sense.... The out-come will be that even the best trained and experienced law enforcement offices won’t have a chance against an AR-15 semi automatic or full automatic. Then punks and bad guys will really rule, maybe that’s what you’re looking forward to.

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  • cookie65February 01, 2013 - 9:30 am

    Richard if gun restiction laws against law abiding keep the punks and the bad guys from ruling please explain the success they are having in Chicago and DC. Keep your agenda out of my rights.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 01, 2013 - 1:00 pm

    Question for Sheriff and Mr. Hill: Which part of Pres. Obama's Executive Order/VP Letter do they object to? #1 Universal Background Checks? (90% say yes, NRA said YES until 2008) #2--Making Mental Health Data available? #3-- Help State to meet requirements for "Universal" Background checks? #4 AG looking at the categories (i.e. No-Fly Watch List) of who shouldn't have a gun? Or maybe you guys don't like #5--Background check B4 Law Enforcement RETURNS a gun from an investigation? The rest include setting standards and appointing an ATF Director. Maybe that's what you don't want...... I wish you two would look at the ATF's testimony at the FAST & FURIOUS HEARINGS.... These tools would have BLOCKED the guns from going to Mexico.... Or is this really about a Black Man being President?

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  • Beige ManFebruary 01, 2013 - 1:13 pm

    dink dink dink "Or is this really about a Black Man being President?" As Ronald Reagan would have said .......... (oh, forget about it) I was actually thinking about your questions until you deployed the race card. When all else fails .......................

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  • RichardFebruary 01, 2013 - 2:09 pm

    Beige Man: not worth a responds..........

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  • RichardFebruary 01, 2013 - 2:29 pm

    That’s stupid Roy Hill. So what happens in 10 years, when instead of 2 1/2 million AR-15s in circulation, their 6 or 8 million +. The out-come is easy for the majority of people in our nation to understand: Even the best trained gun owner, experienced veteran and law enforcement offices won’t have a chance if someone wants to gun them down with an AR-15 type weapon. It’s called being OUTGUNNED, Roy, the very thing you want to be RAMBO types say that you don’t want to happen to you. So, RAMBO, where does it stop with increased availability? I can guess your answer Roy Hill, the answer most of your type give, “it’s not my concern. As for your Sheriff, your hero, the one of 198th out of all most 4,000 sheriffs to stand up for the NRA nation wide, I guess he’s blinded by politics. It’s hard to imagine someone in law enforcement who chooses to look the other way when more and more of AR-15 type weapon are being made available.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureFebruary 01, 2013 - 2:37 pm

    Richurd, you're not Jeff today? You're hard to keep track of. Anyway, the gun show was great today. Most people ever to attend one here in our town. I bought three guns, a nice SKS, an M1 Garand, and a Dragunov in 7.62X54R. I was hoping you'd take me up on my offer to meet there, but maybe another time. Did you turn in your SKS yet? Cheers buddy!

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  • Paddy O'furnitureFebruary 01, 2013 - 2:44 pm

    OBTW Richurd, there are only about 3,000 sheriffs nationwide; you're off by 30% (actually, I think off by waaaaay more than that:^). And the running total of sheriffs who have warned the Veep to tread carefully is now nearing 250. Not good with numbers, are you? Or facts for that matter. :)

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  • Sgt. CoughlinFebruary 01, 2013 - 4:46 pm

    Paddy, how is Howard and his 7th st hangout ....

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  • GlennFebruary 01, 2013 - 6:31 pm

    The closest number I can find on the number County Sheriffs nation wide is 3,225 documented in 2007; this number may not include the 2% nation wide who are women. It also does not take into consideration the estimated 50 State Marshalls whom perform the same function as the Sheriff. I think it’s safe to say the Sheriff is one of less than 6% of the Sheriffs nation wide who openly oppose gun control.

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  • EvelynFebruary 01, 2013 - 7:05 pm

    Counties (in some states, parishes) number in excess of 3,000. Pinning down the precise number is not critical. It is true that Sheriff D’Agostini and others similarly aligned ARE in the minority. Does that PROVE they are wrong? History shows that at pivotal moments in a society the “majority opinion” is usually WRONG. From elsewhere: If the majority was really a legitimate deciding factor in the course of history, then the first American Revolution would have never occurred in the first place. That fight was won by a minority of men and women who knew they were right in the face of a malicious world power structure supported by an ignorant subsection of the populous. Generations to come would be influenced by a small group of people who stood on honor and principle in the face of the tyranny of the “majority”.

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  • GTown WhistlerFebruary 01, 2013 - 7:34 pm

    Roy & Evelyn have what most comments seem to lack: facts, intelligence...and brass cajones. Way to go!!

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  • RichardFebruary 01, 2013 - 7:59 pm

    When right wing gun activist use words like honor and principle why opposing gun control , I thank god there little more than a mob.

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  • Foamie Mouth®February 01, 2013 - 8:02 pm

    Make allowances for Richard ...... English is not his first language.

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  • RichardFebruary 01, 2013 - 8:25 pm

    It's pretty clear that many of those on the side of lax gun control in this country also have no respect at all for victims of violence. Why? Gun violence, which is rampant in this country, threatens the only thing these people hold of value: their "first amendment" rights. Sorry. First amendment rights don't mean you can act like an as-hole.

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  • Constitutional LessonFebruary 01, 2013 - 8:40 pm

    The First Amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2013 - 5:48 am

    Richard, your attempts at making some comparison between 2nd Amendment rights and compassion for victims is pathetic. It is the left who have promoted the criminals as the victims and corrupted the legal system keeping dangerous criminals on the streets. Criminals love people like you.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2013 - 7:46 am

    "GUN BAN COVER-UP: If the semi-auto firearm has anything to grip it by, it is banned..." - HERE - Nothing in Feinstein's bill addresses criminals. Nothing in the 122-page bill deals with gun safety. The problem on page 13: All semi-autos are outlawed, not just some. (Read the article for details.)

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  • RichardFebruary 02, 2013 - 11:10 am

    Sheriff John D’Agostini’s letter to Joe Biden is still troubling to me: The line between the crook and the cop is thin which most agree. So, apparently, is the line between the Sheriff and the gun smith.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2013 - 11:21 am

    Richard: Could you explain what you mean about crooks and cops, sheriffs and gun smiths?

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  • cookie65February 02, 2013 - 12:10 pm

    Richard, it might be less troubling for you if consider that in this country we have 3 separate but equal branches of government. Not just and executive branch. None of them issue us our rights. Any right granted by a government can also be taken away. There are states rights issues that obama has zero regard for. obama is using the act of a mentally deranged individual against little children who have no protection because of liberalism to restrict the 2nd Amendment rights of law abiding citizens. You can't honestly tell me that the left has just now made gun control a top priority. It has been part of their political ideology for as long as socialized healthcare has. The Sheriff is responsible to the citizens of this county and he took no oath to enforce any executive order that is contrary to the Bill of Rights. Your issue is you have a pre-existing agenda and like all people of your persuasion you don't care about the rule of law when it comes to achieving your objective.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureFebruary 02, 2013 - 12:20 pm

    Let me spoon-feed a dose of the left's own medicine back to them; don't like the sheriff? Tough. The election is over and you lost. Better luck next time, suckers. Don't be such sore losers, etc, etc, etc. Sound familiar? Take your butt-kicking and go home.

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  • RichardFebruary 02, 2013 - 2:59 pm

    What has long worried me about those who follow the NRA is that they dont seem to grasp the undeniable truth that the constitutional right to gun ownership is no more absolute as they clearly believe it to be than the freedoms of peaceable assembly, the press, religion, speech or any of the other constitutionally enumerated rights we enjoy.In the case of our 6% sheriff, maybe he just didnt understsand what he was signing.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureFebruary 02, 2013 - 3:39 pm

    ...And I don't think you understand what you're typing, Richurd. It's kind of sad really....

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  • RichardFebruary 02, 2013 - 4:40 pm

    The National Rifle Association has officially endorsed John DÕAgostini for El Dorado County sheriff, and will no doubt endorse him again.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2013 - 4:58 pm

    Richard, hezbola, hamas, the muslim brotherhood and the socailists of America have officially endorsed obama. You sure have drank some strange koolaid.

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  • Agencies Affiliation-NRA/CopsFebruary 02, 2013 - 5:03 pm

    To Recruit Cops, the NRA Dangles Freebies Paid for by Gun Companies, Awards and prizes of free guns are common and are just one way that the NRA reaches out too law enforcement. Others are complimentary memberships and insurance benefits, training opportunities, and steep product discounts to public safety officers. The cost of these premium memberships are covered by individual and corporate sponsors such as the gun maker Colt's Manufacturing. In addition to free subscriptions to all of the NRA's magazines and the standard benefits offered to civilian members, Life of Duty members receive $27,500 in free accident insurance coverage and steeper product discounts than civilians are offered—45 percent off hunting and camping products from Browning and Alps Mountaineering, for instance, and big savings on gear at Brownells' PoliceStore.com. The bennies don't end there: If a law enforcement Life of Duty member is killed on duty, the widow or widower gets a $25,000 life insurance payout, and the children qualify for college scholarships worth up to $8,000. For $50 a year, retired cops can purchase insurance through the NRA that covers up to $25,000 in legal costs should they be sued after shooting someone in "self defense." A so-called "agency affiliation" qualifies police agencies to receive technical and legal advice on their firearm-training curriculums, and help from the NRA's "Range Development Department" in designing their firing ranges—a tax-exempt NRA foundation even helps pay for such things. They make it pretty hard for a young cop not to support them.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2013 - 6:04 pm

    Agencies, in order for the government to recuit public sector employees, they promise them lifetime taxpayer paid for income and health benny's. I not going to bother looking up your conclusions. But I will ask what you have against the private sector doing its part to insure law enforcement not only has plenty of people interested in the pursuit of that profession but also those individuals have the proper knowledge, training, familiarity, and access to the tools of the trade? I can't imagine how the NRA's positive involvement in law enforcement can be a bad thing. The bad guys don't have rubberband guns. You guys on the left get trained to believe some really strange stuff and once it becomes part of your limited conscience you hold on like a pitbull on a porkchop. Logic and reason be damned.

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  • RichardFebruary 02, 2013 - 6:19 pm

    (cookie65February 02, 2013 - 4:58 pm.) I found your statement that,"hezbola, hamas, the muslim brotherhood and the socailists of America have officially endorsed Obama," on the web page, COMMIEBLASTER.COM, along with several hundred other interesting articles: OBAMA A SOVOET AGENT, OBAMA LEADS COMMUNIST TAKE OVER OF AMERICA, OBAMA EXPOSED-HIS FATHER WAS A RUSSIAN AGENT, OBAMA GROMMED FROM BIRTH DICATOR, OBAMA TIED TO KREMLIN, COMMUNIST RUSSIA HONORS OBAMA, , OBAMA HONORED BY COMUNIST WITH POSTAGE STAMP, HTLER SURVIVOR WARNS AMERICA OF OBAMA, OBAMA PURE MARXIST-SOCIALIST, OBAMA, OBVIOUS AND OPEN TREASON and my all time favorite, OBAMA WANTS 25 MILLION AMERICAN DEAD. Ma’am, if you get you information from, act on or believe and of the information on the aforementioned site, or any of the 50+ listed below it with basically the same EXSTREME right wing propaganda, you are an EXSTREMIST.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2013 - 7:05 pm

    Richard, I don't know what websites you frequent but I can find my points in the main stream media. Not the alphabet channels but media who are not obama lapdogs. http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/04/obama_campaign_flattered_by_ha.asp

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  • cookie65February 02, 2013 - 7:09 pm

    http://blog.heritage.org/2012/05/29/obama-awards-medal-of-freedom-to-democratic-socialists-of-america-chair/

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  • Paddy O'furnitureFebruary 03, 2013 - 9:20 am

    "Convicted rapist organizes gun control demonstration at Dayton gun show; Media fails to note his sex offender status" http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8759

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  • Larry VelascoFebruary 03, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    Sorry to Mr. D'Agostini for the mispelling of his name. I am in total agreement with his letter to Biden. Yes, Biden is a dip, but he will get the message in the letter. I got it and I'm not a brain surgeon. I know the people in the White House will get it too. Thank you, Sir for believing in and fighting for OUR Constitution. It is REAL and was designed by men inspired by, GOD. HE is someone that a lot of us have forgotten. I hope I never do. OUR government is in very bad condition. WE have to take a stand to save the country. Too many sports, movies, rock and country stars. We have to realize what the real goal is. This country deserves better than it is getting. For a long time now, both the Demos. and Repulicans have been sucking this country dry. WELL, it's time for US to STOP them. Legally of course. If WE do it Legally, they won't know what the heck happened to them. WHY?? Because they have no idea of what is LEGAL and what is ILLEGAL. The country is full of all kinds of PARASITES. Osama Obama is the host. Do you know what happens to the host when there are too many Parasites??? It DIES. HUMMMMM, Larry VELASCO, AMERICANaboveall

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  • RichardFebruary 03, 2013 - 3:46 pm

    Report Washington Post1-13-13; Gay Log Cabin Republicans and Pink Pistols support Gun Control. NRA supports Pink Pistols and gives AAA a rating.

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  • Dave LemeyersFebruary 03, 2013 - 6:25 pm

    In my experience, Mr. Velasco typifies today's republican party.

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