Wednesday, April 23, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

Wrongheaded comments on Head Start

EDITOR:

Recently, Richard Esposito, publisher of the Mountain Democrat, wrote a column trying, and failing, to mock the idea that climate change is here, and it’s real. He ought to leave telling whoppers to Larry Weitzman, who has years of practice.

What got my attention, however, is the Mountain Democrat editorial’s argument that the Head Start program has never proven its worth: it is just a feel-good giveaway designed by Democrats. The Mountain Democrat does not include a shred of evidence to back up its claim.

Head Start is one of the more successful federal programs — ever. No less an authority than James Heckman, 2000 Nobel Prize winner in economics, says so. Heckman is a conservative who teaches at the University of Chicago, home of the Friedman School of conservative economics. Professor Heckman has specialized in the effects of pre-K education on minority and disadvantaged children.

His research has led him, inter alia, to the following conclusions: Every tax dollar invested in good pre-K education yields $17 in return because children enrolled in pre-K see their chances of being employed, and their lifetime earnings, markedly increased. And, even more important to society in general, children who have attended pre-K see the probability of going to jail and/or going on the dole dramatically decreased. The relatively small investment in pre-K educations translates into trillions saved in court, police and prison costs.

I understand why the prison industrial complex does not like pre-K education — it means fewer inmates — but what are the Mountain Democrat’s reasons?

JOHN GARON
Placerville

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  • James E.January 22, 2014 - 3:28 pm

    His reasons? I think he heard it recently on Tom Sullivan's show that the program is useless. If you hear it on Rush, Hannity, Sullivan, et al., you will soon thereafter see it in the MtDemocrat.

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  • The devil's in the detailsJanuary 22, 2014 - 4:37 pm

    I see that John Garon's head cheerleader is the first to pipe-in, again.

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 4:45 am

    The best argument against democracy is our weekly letter from mother goose.

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 5:51 am

    Minority and disadvantaged are synonyms for spend other people's money. Bludgeon words. Guilt words. Non-specific and murky but highly profitable for those peddling it. Not only in the confiscation and transfer of wealth but also in the political loyalty and vote buying. The typical 3 year old can learn more from my Labrador than they will for the billions spent on another government indoctrination camp.

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  • colorsofalgebrapointsMarch 01, 2014 - 11:22 am

    Slaver and slavers Non-specific and murky but highly profitable for those peddling it. Not only in the confiscation and transfer of wealth but also in the political loyalty and vote buying by Koch Nazi's

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 6:00 am

    This letter actually lends itself perfectly to the never ending sham conducted by leftists. There is a history to what passes for "disadvantaged". A history wrapped completely in the political party who now need even more money because all their other theories are colossal failures. Leftism is a gigantic hole in the universe we throw money in. Never to be seen again.

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 8:17 am

    You can't make this stuff up!!! http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/114445-attorney-general-eric-holder-calls-lifting-bans-felons-voting-rights/

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  • ConservativeFebruary 12, 2014 - 8:26 am

    I second what Cookie says. What is Headstart besides free day care? What happened to teaching children to read starting in the 1st grade? As a professional recruiter, I can tell you that people born (!!!) and educated in the U.S. are not being taught how to write. You wouldn't believe the errors I see on resumes and cover letters. I have two daughters-in-law who are tenured public school teachers in California, and they tell me that kids are passed from grade to grade even though they can't read and write at their level. These are not at low-performing schools. They might be held back once, but never twice. And, sad to say, one of those DILs has awful grammar. She rewards her 7-year-old students when they catch her spelling and grammar errors. How did she ever become a tenured school teacher in El Dorado County?!!! Don't you just love California public schools? That $1000/month I paid for my own child to attend private school was well worth it.

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 8:43 am

    Socialism has no use for education. It is a simple fact completely over looked by the indoctrinators of higher education. If they ever got what "they" wanted their profession would be the first one eliminated. That is how ignorant the people running education are. It is mind boggling. Here is even more tyranny coming from the regime. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/114448-president-who-lied-about-obamacare-will-demand-business-not-tell-the-truth-about-obamacare-firings/

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 9:50 am

    Scary stuff, cookie, ~~~ LINK - President Who Lied About Obamacare Demands Businesses Not Tell Truth About Obamacare Firings ~~~ "Firms will be required to certify to the IRS – under penalty of perjury – that ObamaCare was not a motivating factor in their staffing decisions. To avoid ObamaCare costs you must swear that you are not trying to avoid ObamaCare costs. You can duck the law, but only if you promise not to say so. "

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  • Fran DuchampMarch 01, 2014 - 12:41 pm

    I will support education in the public schools until its end For this reason--not all children can afford to go to private. I have been to private schools--and chose to go back into a public--for social reasons alone. The rich have their vices as well--just in a smaller community. I have seen wonderful leaders come from the public systems...some fight harder for what they want. Teachers try to do it all--too many people in Federal areas telling them what to do. In the credential progam we learned it is the "C" student that adapts better in life--yet they are not even allowed in the program. "A" students dont bend--they break more often than not. The 100,000 dollars being spent on yet another website in this county--could have gone to the high schools--these ARE the computer kids. And we know that. Parent groups decided on disapline issues. There is nothing that a school can do--except wait for the police to come at times. Rules have changed...in the past teachers were allowed to teach...disapline belonged to the schools. and parents didnt protest. My grandfather told me that he would never dream of cauing problems in the school..becuase he would get in trouble there and at home. My grandson asked one time if I would just teach him at home--I told him "no." Each child is different--my grandson needs people. He needs a variety of opinions. He needs to learn that life is not always fair. He needs to learn that some of his work is not perfect. He needs to work hard--get assignments in--work with other people. He needs to see both sides of a coin. Not just my veiw of the world. Schools do this. He needs to learn to stand in a line, take his turn, respect others wins. He needs to know how to fail. Not to give up...how to move on. He will be better than I...and I am proud of that. His church, various adults in this community and his school have taught him how--I just support what they have done. as a teacher in California...I support the hundreds of good people that have come out of the public school systems. I think of the children who cant go to school at all in other coutries...at least our children have the option. Our founding fathers understood this..public schools--public libraries... Access for to written knowledge for all. Now some want to tear down both ideas.

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  • Fran DuchampMarch 01, 2014 - 12:54 pm

    To answer the other question...families used to read together...and the adults that could write would work with the little ones. Or the rich would hire people to care for the child--which included reading. Most Americans way back when --read the Bible together. Kids practiced their letters in the dirt (many cultures still do.) We tell them to wash their hands and come in to watch TV--or play their ipad or comp.

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 8:34 am

    Attorney General Eric Holder Calls for Lifting Bans on Felons' Voting Rights You can't make this stuff up!!!

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 8:27 am

    The left has a record of how they treat minorities. Does Clarence Thomas ring a bell? Clarence Thomas: Society is overly sensitive about race

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  • PatriceFebruary 12, 2014 - 10:23 am

    You are without shame. Really, Clarence Thomas as your example?! I know, I know the majority of the people of color vote left because they receive a free ride, and the left are really racists in disguise.

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 4:42 pm

    Hey 4, have you ever sat down and calculated how much time you save every week never having to do any of your own thinking?

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  • cookie65February 12, 2014 - 4:51 pm

    Speaking of being without shame. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/114488-can-guess-pro-womany-democrat-won-womans-day-mag-pro-woman-award/

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  • ClariceFebruary 12, 2014 - 5:14 pm

    What's the Matter with Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas now? What are you, some kind of racist?

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  • PatriceFebruary 12, 2014 - 8:54 pm

    If you are referring to me. Sure, I am the biggest racist you will find in Placerville.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 10:55 am

    Phil again brings up the evil IRS. Choose one of the following: 1. You support the IRS looking the other way and not enforcing the law that an organization that engages in politics activities must pay taxes. Or, 2. You support the IRS enforcing the law that if an organization engages in political activities they must pay taxes. Look the other way, or enforce the law? Pick one, you cannot pick both. I pick #2 because if organizations want to play, then pay your taxes. Phil, tell us why you might pick #1.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 11:40 am

    James, if you are referring to the article that cookie posted and for which I provided a hot link (February 12, 2014 - 9:50 am) then you may consider purchasing an ENGLISH ROSETTA STONE program. That article has NOTHING relevant to 501 C3/C4 tax exemptions. . . . ALSO . . . prepare th' Missus for another driving marathon . . . ALSO . . . good luck on your ENGLISH ROSETTA STONE program.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 11:02 am

    The faux IRS scandal, the faux Benghazi scandal, and now the faux Hillary's husband was a bad boy so it is Hillary's fault scandal.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 11:58 am

    James (and John Garon if you should drop in), the "scandals" you reference, James, are in the rearview mirror. Let's look ahead and anticipate how the administration will handle Kiev/Ukraine. I am posting to a thoughtful exchange with Stephen F Cohen, NYU Russian Studies prof Emeritus;(husband of Katrina vanden Heuvel ) 40 minutes audio, last night's John Batchelor radio program. When Putin exposed Victoria Nuland's "F^*k the EF" comment he flashed the precarious nature of the administration's "fiddling" ~~~ LINK - Stephen F Cohen, NYU Russian Studies prof Emeritus; author, Soviet Fates & Lost Alternatives. ~~~~ Watch out after the Olympics. Benghazi, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan . . . Obama's "Arab Spring"/Syria . . . all will be simple compared to the impending catastrophe of Ukraine. Is Obama incompetent or devastatingly destructively competent? We seem to be playing with fire . . . the next "scandal"

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 12:02 pm

    . . . ""F^*k the EU" comment " . . .

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  • PatriceFebruary 12, 2014 - 12:04 pm

    James, you know as well as anyone that these talking points will continue, adding new points along the right wings way. They have to grab at something to support their die hard way of thinking, valid or not....does not matter. Hillary 2016! Haven't seen any posts re: Christie and bridge shutdown??

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 12:15 pm

    Patrice, is there any way to get Hillary to weigh in on Ukraine? Given her deep State Department experience she may have the ability to nudge Obama away from his date with catastrophe. Proactive prophylactic words of advice from Hillary may ease her own 8 year term. Give her a call, Patrice. Pretty please?

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  • PatriceFebruary 12, 2014 - 4:44 pm

    Have you heard Hillary weigh in on anything with regard to her current opinions since she left public office? Technically she is not in service and is not expected to weigh in, as you well know.

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  • ClariceFebruary 12, 2014 - 5:16 pm

    Weighing in at 210 pounds. Hillary "I made my husband dot it"Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • PatriceFebruary 12, 2014 - 8:53 pm

    Cookienoname, go away.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 5:05 am

    James, is there a word that best describes someone's choice to reject that which is patently obvious? Perhaps religiosity. In 4's case, their isn't enough brain activity to even be classified. http://freebeacon.com/rep-dave-camp-100-percent-of-groups-audited-by-irs-were-conservative/

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 12:24 pm

    Phil, I'd call Hillary but she seems to be refusing my calls????

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 12:26 pm

    Phil, I'm glad to see that you view the "scandals" as old business. Were that your fellow Republicans would be so wise.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 12:31 pm

    James, please comment regarding the TOTALLY AVOIDABLE scandal in the making - Ukraine.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 12:30 pm

    Phil, I want to take the Rosetta English program so I can talk swell. If I could only understand gerunds, my speech would be sweller.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 12:47 pm

    Phil, I have no comment. Are there any other subjects you would like me to comment on, in which I also have no comment?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 12:58 pm

    James, might you have a comment at some point in the upcoming Ukrainian civil war? At 100,000 deaths? At 200,000 deaths? . . . 300,000? If these deaths are avoidable through prudent US policy but prudent US policy does not materialize will you then admit that Obama has a really REAL scandal? Or would that be racist?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 1:06 pm

    . . . PS . . . "prudent US policy" might begin with Obama, through executive order, putting Senator McCain on "time out", sitting him down in the corner and having him speak no more of democracy for Ukraine - neither Ukraine - neither east nor west Ukraine.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 1:11 pm

    Phil, ok, I'll comment. Prudent U.S. policy? What prudent U.S. policy? Russia has close proximity, controls energy supplies that Kiev depends on, and has promised a $15B bailout to influence the Ukrainian president. The U.S. doesn't have many options in this?. What do you propose? Parachute in the 82nd Airborne? Guess this has the neo-cons drooling in D.C. -- another little military invasion into the Ukraine to scare off Russia? Really?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 1:23 pm

    James asks, "What prudent U.S. policy? " Budget 40 minutes, James, and listen to the audio at February 12, 2014 - 11:58 am. But in a nutshell we need to cease and desist from our clandestine-behind-the-scenes destabilization of Ukraine. We fanned the flames of Egypt, Libya, Syria . . . STOP!!!!

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 1:14 pm

    Here I cannot get a decent eye prescription -- one eye is sharp, the other eye is just a tiny tiny little fuzzy which is driving me nuts, and Phil wants me to worry about the Ukraine. Guess I will have to try another eye doctor, until someone gets it right.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 1:37 pm

    Phil, so you don't want to send in the 82nd Airborne and you want the CIA to stop playing games in the Ukraine. I agree. Now that we have solved that, I just want to spend some time worrying about my eye prescription.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 1:55 pm

    No, James. WHEN Ukraine blows up I want you and John to, Win just one for the Gipper". Obama can't possibly pin this upcoming catastrophe on Bush. You and John step up. Confess. You knew. You said nothing. Save Obama once again from the consequences of his own policy.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 12, 2014 - 2:05 pm

    Every successful country has a strong education system.... Just look at the Afghanistan, and how they limit their education system. It's not just STOPPING women from schools... It's the limit to the Koran, no other books...... Jefferson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, all said "Education" leads to a strong country..... If we want a strong country........ we have to have a strong education system.....

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 5:29 am

    Poor dinky, forever trying to bail out the destruction that follows leftism with a Dixie cup. Arguing with himself is a spot on summation. You have to admit, it is entertaining, like a Greek tragedy. He throws out historical references completely oblivious that all those people weren't products/victims of our communist run educations system. He makes arguments that are undermined by his own beliefs. He concocts twisted mazes of strawman arguments in a lame attempt to justify the failures of leftists theoreticians. He rewrites every point that exposes the corrupt failure of leftism in an attempt to blame everything else for it and then he argues with himself about it.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 13, 2014 - 1:09 pm

    Cookie: "those people weren't products/victims of our communist run educations system."...... Where do you get this stuff???...... Oh look out Cookie.... I think a see a Communist under your bed.... Oh, no.... He's in your closet.... Hide..

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 12, 2014 - 2:14 pm

    The USA is the ONLY country where a parent can work two jobs and still be in poverty...... How can a parent stay home to teach the basics to her or his child if they are working 10 to 16 hours a day? ...... When you have NEVER been poor.... When you have NEVER struggled to raise your children.... When you have NEVER been left with overwhelming from medical bills unexpected debt........ can you understand...... You can sit in your nice warm house, by your nice warm fire and tell other people to "Buck-up ..... and by the way your kids can't keep up with my kids in school..... so I want to take the TAX $$$ from YOUR school and put it in my private school."

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  • ClariceFebruary 12, 2014 - 5:19 pm

    WTF dual income no kids!!!! Not only do you talk but answer and then argue with yourself.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 12, 2014 - 8:36 pm

    Parents=kids

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 5:51 am

    "How can a parent stay home to teach the basics to her or his child if they are working 10 to 16 hours a day?" I am not quite sure how to break the news to you dinky, but your query is the opposite of what is going on. Who is working 10-16 hours a day dinky? 92 million people out of the workforce dinky. Are they teaching their kids the basics? Yea they are, the basics being the government owes them a living. If we take your logic all the unemployed single mothers would be raising the most prepared kids in the country. How come the opposite is what is happening? Is it because they are poor? Does being poor prevent a parent from teaching their kids to read? One of your favorite name drops is Lincoln. I seem to recall how poor he was as a child, did he learn to read? Did he need head start because his parents couldn't find the time in their busy schedule of servitude in some minimum wage sweat shop owned by the evil Koch brothers? You know what dinky? The word PARENT is not a noun, it is a verb.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 3:36 pm

    Phil, military officers don't make foreign policy. We, who serve, just follow orders from the National Command Authority. So don't throw that monkey on me. Write your Representative and throw the monkey on him. Oh, and your Senators too.

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 08, 2014 - 9:28 pm

    James, John - any comments on the fruit of "our" Kiev/Ukraine monkeyshines? ~~~ Note: I was inviting your thoughts on Obama's Kiev/Ukraine destabilization efforts a month ago. Things have now . . . uh . . . "ripened". Any insights John, James? Is this Bush's fault? NATO expansion - NATO expansion sis boom bah!!! For Crimenea sakes! Bush puts missiles in Poland. Obama removes 'em. Obama puts back Bush's missiles? Psst! . . . Barack!!! . . . Stop listening to that idiot McCain . . . If you cease and desist in Ukraine perhaps Putin will cease and desist in Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba? Try it. You may like it.

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 08, 2014 - 10:25 pm

    TRIVIA: Thirty one years ago on this date, March 8, 1983, Reagan's speech to the National Association of Evangelicals in Orlando, Florida, is his first recorded use of the phrase "evil empire."

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 08, 2014 - 10:42 pm

    LINK - "Evil Empire" Speech by President Reagan

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 12, 2014 - 4:12 pm

    OK, James. My take away from our discussion is that you and John Garon approve of the administration's destabilization efforts in Ukraine. I'll come back to this topic as the situation warrants. If all turns out hunky-dory then kudos to your kool.

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  • James E.February 12, 2014 - 4:24 pm

    Phil, Mr. Garon will have to speak for himself, but your takeaway on me must be that I don't approve or disapprove of the administrations efforts. Your monkey tried to land on my back but it fell off. Hope it didn't get hurt in the fall.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 7:28 am

    Phil, don't you wish the obama voters were as smart as this bird? The term bird-brain is really a misnomer. At least this bird can figure out how to feed itself without a welfare office. The difference is the bird hasn't been indoctrinated from birth to believe it is a victim. And it is willing to put in a little effort. This Bird Will Amaze You

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 4:14 am

    The other very interesting thing about this bird is it learned this rather quickly compared to 13 years in union run education which now needs to be extended even further since is does such a good job. If we keep lowering the bar of expectation at some point our youth won't learn how to walk. They already can't communicate in oral or written form. Thank you leftists.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 4:30 am

    This particular topic is very illustrative of how the leftist mind functions. How it can be depended on to NEVER venture beyond what it is told or even contemplate anything outside of what it has been trained believe. I don't know of anything more capable of learning than a human child. And look at what the left has done to that natural process. They have completely obliterated it. All for the remarkably low price of several trillion dollars. What can the human child learn? Anything. What can they learn from leftists? Nothing. I take that back, they can learn how to feel. The one thing that requires no instruction. The left can take the most natural system in existence, the learning process, and render it utterly useless. Idiocracy.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 7:27 am

    Hey dinky, I have a relative who lives in Atlanta who has been sending me some astonishing pictures of the global warming taking place there. Even some pics of the barren grocery store shelves. I know none of you lemmings understand anything outside of what you are told to believe but virtually every community in the nation has about a 24hour food supply. My relative has witnessed first hand how something as small as inclement weather has wiped it out. Something to think about. Or do what you always do and wait for the leftist media to tell you. Think about all those people who have been trained by leftism to live from hand to mouth because the government is incapable of not providing for them or harming them. Our fundamental transformation to a third world country is but one or two minor events from being accomplished and 3 years left to get 'er done. When that racist Bush used his patented KOCH BROTHERS/CATO/ALEC hurricane machine to cause Katrina and the dims who ran the state all heeded the 5 day warning and headed for higher ground the preparedness and self reliance of those fully dependent on government was broadcast on live television for everyone to see. And what did they learn? They learned the government will give you an atm card that can be used to buy a Gucci purse. Priceless. And some head start program is going to correct it? I think NOT.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 7:52 am

    Hey dinky, if a repub were in the whitehouse the leftists media would be bar-b-queing them. http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/02/13/winter-storm-kills-at-least-12-across-the-south/

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  • EvelynFebruary 13, 2014 - 7:57 am

    64: Your four back-to-back comments run to 2,835 words. Whatever the point, how many people do you think will read them?

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 8:14 am

    Eve!yn, what was the link you posted the other day regarding tactics for silencing opposition?

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  • EvelynFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:18 am

    Cookie: HERE

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:03 am

    LOLOLOL Good morning Cookie..omg...lolololol

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 8:11 am

    Not me Fran, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Using one of the tactics Eve!yn posted the other day on defeating opposition. Everyone of these postings is copied and pasted from elsewhere.

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  • Down with LibsFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:14 am

    You can never expect independent thought from the left......

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 8:18 am

    Independent and collective are antonyms.

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  • EvelynFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:16 am

    64: It's fairly certain you will not be discouraged. Clearly you don't wish to be read. Thank goodness for SCROLL.

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:33 am

    There is now groups of people that are pushing for "distance learning"...they want schools shut down. Kids will learn off the net. Less teachers needed. there are many schools/or instruction that already exists. Watch the preschooler with an ipad. Unless ALL children can afford these electronic toys and hook ups--not everyone will have access to education. I went to the internet meeting here in town--not many residents...just the "power" people showed. They said there-- that schools and libraries would be the internet hubs. (shhhhhh Computers are not sustainable.) My grandson is always telling me how slow my connection is--but I cant afford anything else. I cant buy my grandson an ipad...an iphone..so he misses out on some of the apps--teaching the young to "distance learn." I support the schools up here...the day I dont--is the same one where ill homeschool. That is one of the reasons--even if the gentleman doesnt know it... schools--even for little ones are being attacked. This new generation is being taught to be "alone"-- isolated with a device to connect them. Schools, work, and play--online. If one can afford it-- before they can walk. There is power in numbers. How does one control populations? You dont let them gather and talk to each other face to face. You start rumors--have small groups in charge of what's going on. Why is the chamber afraid of petitions? because there is power in numbers...and people might start reading about what is going on behind their backs, and discussing the issues with their neighbors... and then--like what is happening now...they will realise, "Hey--wait a minute-what? I never said that." My loyalty belongs with the people...at the most common level. I, like many, do not like being told what to do--or what I want. I like to decide for myself. I, like many, hate to be manipulated. Pay attention to your donations. shrugging shoulders What are your donations supporting? What are your taxes supporting?

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:40 am

    I also agree with cookie...my Husky/Akita could teach a three year old many lessons as well... patience and kindness would be right up there. and laughter--she can get little kids to laugh with her singing. and she does love to sing. While my grandson practices his clarinet--my furry friend is singing away. Computers do not teach humanity.

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  • citizenFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:55 am

    Does it make anyone wonder why the gentleman (John Garon) who endorsed a known local pedophile (Richard Boylan) for school board, would believe he himself is an expert to speak on raising our children? Why is it that "people" like John Garon always champion "people" like Boylan? Is it because of their friendship and camaraderie while being on the leadership of the Eldorado Democratic party? There is no debate in regards to the protection of children. That discussion should not be political. And the protection of our children should not be left in the hands of "people" like Garon and Boylan or the Eldorado County Democratic Party for that matter.

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  • Vigor MortisFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:07 am

    citizen leave your name so that charges of slander can be brought. or you can join forces with veerkamp and show evidence of pedophilia.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 9:25 am

    The left has even re-invented slander. What ever terminology they choose to assign to those who stand between them and communism is acceptable and encouraged and anyone who designates the left by their actions or the results of their policies is guilty of slander. The same standard they use to defend the global warming fraud. If it rains; global warming, if it doesn't rain; global warming, too cold; global warming, too warm; global warming, windy; global warming, not windy; global warming.. you get the idea.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 9:45 am

    What happened to all the plagiarized contributions? Were they republished without permission and citation? When it comes to whether or not we throw even more money down the public education rathole, I think opinions from those who commit what is the equivalent of academic fraud are highly valuable. Keep up the good work of exposing the utter fraud that is leftism.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:12 am

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/BAY-AREA-DATELINES-3137076.php

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  • Vigor MortisFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:22 am

    veerkamp you see the word pedophilia somewhere? and license revocation means no ph.D?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:23 am

    http://ufocult-watcher.blogspot.com/2010/01/dr-richard-boylan-president-of-starkids.html#comments

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:26 am

    http://infocalipsis.blogspot.com/2011/05/richard-boylan-workshops-and-child.html

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  • Vigor MortisFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:51 am

    veerkamp for the record describe the alleged pedophilia; as you know, some words have exact meanings.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:52 am

    http://infocalipsis.blogspot.com/2011/05/richard-boylan-workshops-and-child.html

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  • Vigor MortisFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:55 am

    veerkamps getting repetitive.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 9:59 am

    LINK - If the reader is not already familiar with Dr. Boylan and his cult they will learn much there. Here we will write a short profile of Dr. Boylan. ~~~ In 1995 he lost his psychiatric license for gross negligence after he convinced a number of his female patients to join him naked in a hot tub. ~~~ In 1996 on an appeal by Boylan, the California Board of Psychology affirmed the revocation. ~~~ Dr. Boylan runs live seminars for his Starkids Project, as well as a Yahoo group designed for minors only. ~~~ In November 2009 Boylan emailed messages to his Starkids group with sexual content describing romantic affairs with an alien race called the Altimarians.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 10:06 am

    This is funnier than sheila jackson lee asking if the Mars rover was going to visit where the astronauts planted the flag. It seems in addition to being taxed for contributing to global warming at every turn, residents near Boston are being fined for not shoveling sidewalks. Taxed when it snows, taxed when it doesn't. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/02/12/more-than-100-lynn-residents-ticketed-for-failing-to-shovel/

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  • citizenFebruary 13, 2014 - 10:15 am

    I keep listings links to Boyland's pedophilia and I keep getting blocked http://www.starseeds.net/forum/topics/anybody-know-of-a-dr-richard-boylan?commentId=2312030%3AComment%3A1763329

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  • Vigor MortisFebruary 13, 2014 - 2:46 pm

    Citizen your own post shows you can't read or you are a liar. It does not show what you say. you and veerkamp are in bed together on this.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 4:33 pm

    vigor mortis, tonight . . . under the beer tree (EDC fair grounds) I'd like Richard to swizzle the palm of your hand at midnight. Can I watch? ~~~LINK - . . . And it was a pleasure to teach young Star Kid Michael, 8 how to use the sensitive center of the upright palm of his outstretched hand as a kind of "radar" to detect the energy presence of various Star Visitors. He was successful and noted several Star Visitors sheltered under a large leafy tree with branches almost to the ground. . . "

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:04 pm

    LINK - STAR KIDS: The Cosmic Generation - by - Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D. - 2004 . . . exerpt page 144 . . . . ."I have known Veronica for years. When I showed her how her bio-electromagnetic field caused the dowsing rods to splay outwardly when at a distance of 18 feet from her body, and explained that this was because she was a Star Kid, and what that means, she excitedly went into the house to share this with her family. I also used the dowsing rods with Veronica’s older sister, and showed her that she, too, had Star Kid energy. She was pleasantly intrigued, but was astute enough not to share the news of her being a Star Kid with her parents. She knew they would not be charmed nor accepting. Her father soon emerged with an omni-present beer bottle in his hand and politely informed me that he did not want Veronica involved with any such “strange stuff”. Veronica and her sister are a couple of the Latent Star Kids. They clearly have the energy signature, the intelligence, and likely some of the advanced abilities of Star Kids. But they are not in a position to come to terms with their identity as Star Kids, because the repressive confines of their family do not provide them the permission and encouragement to discover things about themselves that are not officially sanctioned by society’s authorities. "

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  • Dee#1February 13, 2014 - 10:19 am

    Vigor Mortis, you are correct, words have meaning. Let us take "slander"--------Definition of slander (n) Bing Dictionary slan·der [ slándər ] saying of something false and damaging: the act or offense of saying something false or malicious that damages somebody's reputation--------now let us take "libel"-----li·bel [lahy-buhl] Show IPA noun 1. Law. a. defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.--------- b. the act or crime of publishing it.----------- c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.---------These comments are written so you should threaten libel not slander, which are oral statements. ------It would be interesting to see the dirty underwear laundered in court.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 10:25 am

    Eve!yn, there is a new disorder related to winter!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!! I wonder if it is covered under ocommycare. http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/02/12/psychiatrist-there-has-been-a-tremendous-amount-of-seasonal-affective-disorder-this-winter/

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 10:35 am

    The thing about leftists is they are so far behind they think they are first. The Carpenters- Rainy Days and Mondays - 1971 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPmbT5XC-q0

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 10:27 am

    For the record, I'm a Democrat and not a fan of Dr. Boyland. Dee has it right: speech is slander, letters (written) are libel. S is slander, L is libel. And, let me say again, I am not a fan of Dr. Boyland, but my lack of fanship doesn't rise to the level of libel. But, Cookie, I am a fan of Rachel -- if she has slandered the Koch brothers, assume they have enough to afford lawyers to sue.

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  • citizenFebruary 13, 2014 - 10:35 am

    John Garon as well as the Eldorado County Democratic Party endorsed Boylan for school board and he won. Does that mean that the majority of people here want people like Garon and Boylan taking care of our children? Do you? My post keep being blocked. I invite you to Google Richard Boylan Star Children Pedophile and see for yourself

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 10:32 am

    ADDED: But, of course they won't sue because a court case would reveal their tentacles into the body politic.

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 10:33 am

    ADDED: Hillary for president, Rachel for vice president. Boy, that would cause some heads to explode.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 11:18 am

    Curious how the objective, unbiased media can report on the corruption/bribery conviction of ray nagin and never mention what party he belongs to. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/02/114770-video-guess-word-news-anchors-forgot-reporting-mayors-bribery-convictions/

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 11:19 am

    Evelyn, I just finished the 40th episode of "Pie in the Sky." Won't be anymore as the star died this past year from complications from heart surgery. It's a sad day on Acorn TV.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 11:56 am

    Facebook has added upwards of 50 new options for people to designate their gender. http://www.kcra.com/news/new-gender-options-for-facebook-users/24463796

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 1:32 pm

    Hey Cookie, did you see where Iowa Mayoral candidate Chris Turner said of Koch bros support was “like being endorsed by Charles Manson”........HAHAHAHA they cant even buy an election..............HAHAHA Link

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 3:16 pm

    Some of you are just dumber than a bag of hammers. But thank you (sincerely) for exposing a point I make repeatedly. This is an example of the leftist media doing all your thinking for you. How long now has the leftist media inundated you and all the other lemmings with nothing but slander of the Koch brothers? Gee, who else have they done the identical thing to? Everyone who opposes leftism! Isn't that why you watch it? You want to be told what to believe. It is called the politics of personal destruction. It is character assassination. To the left the ends justify the means. The leftist media has turned you into Pavlov's dog. They can mention Koch, Bush, Palin, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Cruz, teaparty or any number of others and everything they have trained you to believe is all you think about. They do just the opposite with all the halfwit leftists that they openly support. Just look at dinky, is that what you want to be like when you grow up? He probably talks about the Koch brothers in his sleep. I have always been amazed at how easily those who consider themselves to be informed and highly intelligent get led around. You respond like a school of fish.

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 3:37 pm

    Cookie, You truly could hide your own Easter eggs.The Daily Show is the media? What part of the interview is not true? HAHAHA

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 3:56 pm

    Do you side step my point intentionally? Who tells you what to believe about the Koch brothers? Do you know them? Have you ever met them? Do you ever ask yourself what you would believe if there was no media programming you?

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 4:03 pm

    Have you ever met Obama? ...Ding! Are you salivating? Who tells you what to think abut him?

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 4:17 pm

    Cookie, Didn't know you had a point. What was it? Your repetition of that knee slapper "bag of hammer" thing? Or the worn out "school of fish thing"? I repeat The Daily Show is not the media. And once again, it is you who side stepped Turners and Lundells and Vadums comments. Where do you get all your original Benghazi, healthcare IRS, Does it magically fall out of the sky?because honeslty, if it wasn't for you I would have never heard of them.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 4:54 pm

    We are not talking about the daily show. We are talking about a purposeful and malicious campaign by the left and their media to denigrate and smear groups and individuals who oppose them. They create narratives about their enemies and run them for weeks at a time. Even if they have to make them up like rachel maddow. Is it is successful? What is your reaction at the mention of the Koch brothers or Sarah Palin? Point to a SINGLE leftist media report, article, or story that did anything other than smear the Koch brothers. Do you have any curiosity why you can't? Do they have cloven hooves? I am not sure how I could explain it any simpler for you. Unless you are truly that dense.

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 4:58 pm

    The daily show is the media. You truly aren't very bright if you think the media is a few cable news outlet. What you read on the sides of buses and park benches is media. You are not even aware of just how hypnotized you are.

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:47 pm

    Ok, So i guess Leave it t Beaver and Green Acres are "the media" too?

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 7:01 pm

    Cookie, I guess Oliver! would be considered right wing media because, well, Mr. Bumble and Widow Corney, you know...and I guess I love Lucy would be left wing media, with Ricky and all. Right? And you never addressed my original posting of one of your own comparing Koch bros to Manson? Oh that's right blah blah blah left wing media......Bengazi..............Health Care...............IRS. Your so original postings. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 13, 2014 - 4:18 pm

    Cookie: My two favorite sources of information include the "Koch Industries" own website....... and then there is FORBES and The NEW REPUBLIC Magazines......... but then if you don't believe their OWN words ..... How about "The Civitas Institute" funded by Art Pope who worked for the KOCH BROTHERS and brags about it on his website...... Or How about Scott Walker's OWN WORDS..... It doesn't address your "terror" of communist ........ So MOST people are going to believe it... ...... Unless the communist under your bed says otherwise....

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:00 pm

    Cookie, Here I'll help you...I think the pastel pink one is in the azaleas................Americans for Prosperity............. spent a record breaking 122 mill in 2012.........72 mil from from 2004-2011 so far this year 27 mill...All those luscious super pacs...........................Are you saying all media are slanderous or just the left? Do the right have special anti-Pavlov-dog brain probe/gene? I'll give you a dollar for every time I have mentioned AFP/Koch Bros, if you give me a nickel for every time you have mentioned Obama........HAHAHA!

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 2:14 pm

    Hey Cookie, here's video of interview …......... frmLink HAHAHAHA. My favorite part is interview with Mathew Vadum at the end.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 13, 2014 - 3:35 pm

    Cookie: Still looking for a communist or socialist around every corner?

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  • dinky hwyFebruary 13, 2014 - 3:43 pm

    dual income no kids is a pathetic wretch

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 13, 2014 - 4:00 pm

    Dear dinky (Notice it was lower case)..... I watched my cousin work three jobs for 4-years ..... In the morning she clean horse stables and return at night to "Hot-Walk" them, work 4 hours in a Deli at Granite Bay, drive over to the Sierra College Bookstore to put in another 4 hours.... She also took 6 units at Sierra College. Her three boys had to go over my mother's when school was out because she couldn't afford a babysitter on minimum wage. She never got a vacation... .... She couldn't stay home and work with the kids to give them what HEAD START would give them, she had to depend on my mother. Really "dinky hwy" you need to grow up. Not everyone can live on their parent's nest-egg.

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  • DINKY HIGHWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!February 13, 2014 - 4:36 pm

    dual income no kids, is related to a whole lot of losers. Trust me I'm not mean spirited because his stories are worn out metaphors. His stories are as real as he is. If he were real why wouldn't he have helped her out?

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 13, 2014 - 4:44 pm

    Have you got into the Sacramental Wine?

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  • cookie65February 13, 2014 - 5:01 pm

    Hey dinky, as far as looking for a communist around every corner there is no need. Communism if forced redistribution of wealth. How far in America do you have to go to find it?

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:24 pm

    Alexander Hamilton, who championed manufacturing and baking as the first Treasury secretary, also argued for widespread ownership of assets, warning in 1782 that, “whenever a discretionary power is lodged in any set of men over the property of their neighbors, they will abuse it.”

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 5:26 pm

    I would say that was a very wise beer drinking father. Dr. Boyland apparently doesn't like fathers getting between him and his star kids recruitment of young girls. Fathers of young daughters, what would be your gut feeling in this situation?

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:30 pm

    One of the 1st laws enacted by Congress,........ a 1792 subsidy to revive a cod fishing industry ravaged by the British Navy, directed most of the money .......... NOT to the wealthy ship owners, ............ but to a class of FISHERMEN know as “sharemen.” They earned a portion of the profits, under contracts negotiated in advance, somewhat like modern unions bargaining with management. (Professor Joseph Blasi and Douglas Rutger and Richard Freeman of Harvard, "The Citizen's Share: Putting Ownership Back into Democracy")......... OH NO, Cookie what are you going to do? The FOUNDING FATHERS AND 1ST CONGRESS.... believed in INCOME EQUALITY..... Communist... the founding fathers are Communists... all of them....

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 5:31 pm

    I especially liked the splaying outward. Was he finding a star kid, or an underground source of water? Are you sure Mr. Garon is supportive of him?

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 5:35 pm

    Maybe Mr. Garon is not aware of the Star Kids recruitment. We sometimes are accepting of people and then come to find out additional information which causes a reassessment.

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  • citizenFebruary 13, 2014 - 7:34 pm

    James, the Eldorado County Democrat Party endorsed Boylan for school board. Garon wrote a letter to the editor endorsing Boylan for the School Board. They both, Garon and Boylan are in the Leadership of the democratic party. They see each other almost every day. Why are you making excuses for John Garon? Is it all the good things Boylan does for the democratic party? You say that the local Republicans are the party of no. Would the local democrats be the party of oh no?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:38 pm

    But James, surely Mr. Garon is familiar with George Soros? ~~~ LINK - George Soros Got Beat Up By His Ex-Girlfriend During a Deposition ~~~ " . . . Brazilian actress Adriana Ferreyr sued Soros for $50 million back in 2011, claiming the Democratic investor physically abused her and reneged on an agreement to give her a $1.9 million New York apartment. (Soros ended up giving the apartment to his new wife, Tamiko Bolton.) . . . "

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:52 pm

    The dif is we don't defend Soros and blame some right wing brainwashing media for his actions

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:57 pm

    Phil, I see you read comments on daily show thread, and learned somthin new, you know, your random Soros post

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  • Oh BrotherFebruary 13, 2014 - 5:53 pm

    All 3 of my kids went through the head start program at Smithflat...loved it, loved sesame street and I am and was a working parent as is my husband... would love for my grandchildren to be able to experience the program... Miss Emily, God love her, is gone but I am sure the new teachers are great also.

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  • PatriceFebruary 13, 2014 - 7:35 pm

    Did your kids attend when Patrick Murphy was there?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 8:42 pm

    Oh Brother, ~~~ Keep your camera ready. ~~~ LINK - The Arizona Chupacabra - Source Video - Best Raw Footage Ever

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 6:03 pm

    Phil, does George Soros recruit Star Kids too? So, did the actress win or lose?

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 13, 2014 - 6:51 pm

    TGBWK, wrong. I got the tip from Special Report. Great giggles, chuckles, guffaws, grins and all-'round satisfaction. We're so pleased that he gave the apartment to his wife! GOOD STUFF!

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  • Things Go Better With KochFebruary 13, 2014 - 7:28 pm

    Hey Cookie, did you see O Riley is auctioning off pre-superbowl interview notes?..... “1)Healthcare 2) Lybia 3)IRS 4)Viewerv Letter 5)Football”.................Your so original

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  • you are a punkFebruary 13, 2014 - 7:36 pm

    why do you think you're so special?

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 7:41 pm

    Citizen I said that Mr. Garon may not be aware of the Star Kids and the implications therein? He will answer for himself if he so wishes.

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 7:44 pm

    ADDED: I do not know Mr. Garon personally. I am not a member of local Democratic politics, so don't get excited that I am defending him. Would it cause you pain if the didn't know about the Star Kids? I bet it would.

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  • James E.February 13, 2014 - 7:49 pm

    *** delete the, add he

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  • Fran DuchampMarch 01, 2014 - 12:59 pm

    and yes I can spell--I can no longer type...the slower I go the worse it is :)

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  • James E.March 08, 2014 - 11:03 pm

    Phil, you just get so worked up. Stay calm. It will all work out, no matter which president is at fault or deserving of an attaboy.

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  • Phil VeerkampMarch 09, 2014 - 7:48 am

    James, you can put your mind to rest. You have misread my state of concern. I was not "worked up" last night. I slept quite well in cozy knowledge that things will, as you say, "all work out". . . . This too shall pass. Thank you, James, for your concern. American boys and girls are coming home. The hegemon is dead. Long live the new hegemon(s).

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