Monday, April 21, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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Same rules

EDITOR:

Why do the sheriff and any law officers think the rules on the road don’t apply to them? I have seen a sheriff officer get to a stop sign and not stop like they should.

I have seen this a lot.

I could understand if the officer was in high pursuit of someone, but they were not.

Let’s all have the same rules on the road for everyone.

CONNIE CAMPBELL
Placerville

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 16, 2014 - 7:05 am

    was the officer responding to a call?

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  • JimmyJanuary 16, 2014 - 7:30 am

    How do you know that the officer wasn't responding to a call that presented a risk to the public's safety? Not every swift response by patrol officers is due to them being involved in a high speed pursuit. He or she might have been dispatched to a domestic violence incident, a report of a possible drunk driver or to assist another officer.

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  • Oh BrotherJanuary 16, 2014 - 10:17 am

    The job isn't easy but please use your blinkers.

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  • can you spell corruptionJanuary 16, 2014 - 11:28 pm

    I agree I just assume they are rushing for a. donut and coffee. Something I have noticed over the years. Cops use to be "protect and serve" now they seem to be militant and above the law. I actually find them quite arrogant eand rude. I wait on them alot at work.

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  • Cheech A ChongJanuary 16, 2014 - 11:43 pm

    Don't let that chip fall off your shoulder onto your foot. I've noticed that you get what you give. The few times I have had contact I found them polite and respectable. Maybe it's just you!

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  • cookie65January 20, 2014 - 6:32 am

    Be glad your not in New York. http://nypost.com/2014/01/19/cops-beat-elderly-man-after-he-jaywalked/

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  • GrizzJanuary 20, 2014 - 11:59 am

    "Protect and Serve" removed from the cars and mind set when Barker took over and he hasn't left, no surprise here and without training it will continue. "It's not what you do when people are watching it's what you do as routine".

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  • Sarah YatesJanuary 20, 2014 - 1:20 pm

    I'm not sure I have ever seen an officer of the law use a signal, or come to a complete stop (unless it is to avoid an accident), or do the speed limit, etc, etc, etc. Do as I say, not as I do...

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  • enough alreadJanuary 20, 2014 - 2:13 pm

    Dont forget if you are a family memberall you have to do is mention the officers name and you wont get a ticket dui etc.etc or if you are an officer off duty you get away with everything also!

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  • The road less traveledJanuary 21, 2014 - 7:00 am

    Or you could just follow the rules of the road don't drink and drive, speed, run stop signs, tailgate etc. etc. ect. Oh but THAT would be giving up your freedom to be an idiot.

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  • The road less traveledJanuary 21, 2014 - 7:13 am

    I've driven these roads for many years and don't think I've ever had to swerve to avoid an accident involving a cop. I can't say that about the other 99.9% of drivers.

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 11:26 am

    Speaking of DUI has anyone checked edso.org lately?

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  • A.AJanuary 21, 2014 - 11:40 am

    Why would you "Steer" them to the DUI log ;)

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  • James E.January 21, 2014 - 11:48 am

    A.A., the bigger question is why would they book Ken Steers into jail on 1/21/2014 on a misdemeanor charge? Doesn't make sense.

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  • again?January 21, 2014 - 12:35 pm

    DUI

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  • EvelynJanuary 21, 2014 - 1:47 pm

    Are recurring DUIs an impediment to remaining as a seated member (here) of the Grand Jury

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 11:52 am

    A.A. I don't make the news I just report it.

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  • thugs on the roadJanuary 21, 2014 - 11:57 am

    The road less traveled I don't see anyone here talking about themselves being bad drivers. I am pretty sure we have the right to say cops aren't perfect. As a matter of fact they are far from perfect. And I agree with the poster who said it is not about"protect and serve" anymore. So quit your preaching. You are probably a cop or know someone who is. As far as I am concern most are just thugs legally carrying guns.

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  • thugs on the roadJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:04 pm

    Someone once told me in the probation department " Any stressful situation can only be made worse by the prescence of cops"

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:13 pm

    Thugs on the road was that a probationER or a probation officer?

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  • thugs on the roadJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:18 pm

    That was an officer as was I

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:24 pm

    As you know then business is booming.

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  • I have seen this a lotJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:32 pm

    Cops get away with why too much cr*p. How many times have we heard how people have called the cops for help only for them to show up and make the situation worse. In this County their motto should be "shoot, shoot some more, when the smoke clears shoot again"

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:40 pm

    I have seen this a lot... and the last time was.............?

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:49 pm

    bitter

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  • thugs on the roadJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:50 pm

    Observer Maybe business is booming for different reasons than you think. Which in fact is my point.

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:50 pm

    I have never had any trouble with law enforcement up here. Nor have I seen any law enforcement not follow road laws. All this talk of crime--could something be on the horizon? If anything they seem to be spread pretty thin...with cuts. Now more and more volunteer groups are forming. shrugging shoulders...I guess I just meet the "right ones" working at Crystal View for 8 years. I have only called the police twice in 20+ years...and they came right away. when my grandson was six and dial his phone number wrong--tried to hang up (916--he dialed 911)--spoke then panicked...breathing heavy--and hanging up. Law enforcement was here really quick. I had no clue my grandson had made the mistake as I was asked to put my hands in the air and step to the side :) It all worked out...my grandson learned a great lesson. lololol. Oh well-I like the law enforcement people I have meet...and I am thankful that I have not gone through all the terrible things some are saying have happened.

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:53 pm

    Reading the local news there doesn't seem to be any shortage of "clients"

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 12:58 pm

    Looks like we have a lot of irate "customers"

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 1:20 pm

    Reading some of these comments make me think some feel if we didn't have laws and cops we wouldn't have crime or criminals. Where does's this "logic" come from?

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 21, 2014 - 1:26 pm

    don't like the police? hate the police?afraid of the police?run from the police?I so don't want to know you

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  • EvelynJanuary 21, 2014 - 1:37 pm

    Robert: Hopefully not in El Dorado County, but nationally real/documented police brutality exists -- and is not uncommon. I won't document what everyone else can do by simply doing a search on POLICE BRUTALITY.

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:15 pm

    Evelyn no doubt it exists however i have been present during arrests locally and have heard those arrested claim they did nothing to warrant such treatment. They forget I was there usually they were too drunk or stubborn to remember anything clearly hard to believe some one beating their wife or kid then playing the victim.

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 1:35 pm

    Sadly that attitude gets taught to our kids so no question Law Enforcement will always be a growth industry. It up to you parents. PARENT!

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  • thugs on the roadJanuary 21, 2014 - 1:40 pm

    Sadly You have no idea what goes on. Ignorance is bliss!

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 1:49 pm

    Thugs on the road I would rather not have your insight or lack of it. Some how every cop has it out for YOU not me I am not LEO don't know any but I do know that when I dial 911 chances are they will show up but I know for sure YOU won't!

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  • Oh BrotherJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:15 pm

    For the people looking at the arrest log...if you look to the left it says PP which means work program..so that person is taking responsibility for the crime they committed. Most of you know I hate DUI offenders and expect them all to be held accountable. That person on the arrest log today has obviously taken responsibility and is doing what the court ordered. Hopefully, lesson learned and no repeat offense. As far as LEO, I have personally seen them drink and drive very intoxicated and they have been fortunate to A. get home alive B. not kill anyone C. against my better judgement having to type this, got a way with it. And all drivers, including cops, are to use their turn signals and I wish they would get that thru their heads..

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  • EvelynJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:21 pm

    OB: I'm confused. Arrested today, still in custody AND already in a work program? Explain how it works, please.

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  • Oh BrotherJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:33 pm

    Evelyn, when a person is assigned to the work program, they are in custody while they are out doing the work. The work program has clean up at the fairgrounds, office work etc., available...I think this is instead of being in the jail, which is probably pretty overcrowded with the prison releases etc. A lot of people are assigned to probation, work program and fines for non violent offenses. Not speaking from experience, my daughter was married to law enforcement. This is a part of the punishment for the crime.

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  • Oh BrotherJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:36 pm

    Evelyn - you have to be "in custody" while doing the work program, so they have to put you back on the booking sheet. All those liability rules etc.

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  • thugs on the roadJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:18 pm

    Observer You can dial 911 and rest assure that the police will come. But if you have any empathy for others especially the young people caught up in the corruption of the police the d.a. and the public defender you might feel different. Otherwise be happy they will be there when you call 911 and forget the rest.

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 3:04 pm

    TOTR You being a former (I assume) probation officer and having seen all the corruption how is it you didn't report it to outside agencies or are "they" in on it too? As some one who who hasn't had any dealings with LEO for 35 years in this county except as an observer how would I know? And don't you have an obligation to the young people as well. Aren't you part of the problem if one exsists?

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:30 pm

    I do my best to obey the ten commandments,i might fail everyday but i won't stop trying

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  • EvelynJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:34 pm

    OB: Thanks. Now I understand.

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  • Oh BrotherJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:38 pm

    You are welcome Evelyn - I am a huge fan of the truth not gossip or assumptions..

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  • EvelynJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:42 pm

    . . . so this is not a 2nd violation, but rather the prescribed followup of last year's?

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  • Oh BrotherJanuary 21, 2014 - 2:59 pm

    Evelyn, that is my understanding of the PP on the left side of the booking sheet. Also, there is no bail, which also indicates it is work program. You cannot bail out of work program so there would be no dollar amount on that line. Work program is a very common part of a sentence for a lot of crimes. It's one of the choices during the court proceedings and is obviously public knowledge. I did not attend that person's court proceedings, I just have seen this with other cases and some of my friends kids that have been in trouble..there is work programs for adult and juvenile offenders.

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  • EvelynJanuary 21, 2014 - 3:25 pm

    Well, that takes care of that. End of story. Thank you very much, OB.

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  • thugs on the roadJanuary 21, 2014 - 4:15 pm

    I have and unfortunately it is much much mote complicated than that. You must know that higher ups have power and that is the nature of corruption.

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  • Oh BrotherJanuary 21, 2014 - 6:27 pm

    Yes it is so much more complicated. That, Evelyn, is why I say, the citizens of the county should stick together and stop this local corruption and abuse of power. But, you may notice, that when you post things like the BOS meetings and I point out the differences in prosecuting various offenders, it all gets ignored and dropped off the blog. People are scared of the repercussions of the DA's office and corrupted ones like Harn. I don't know who is strong enough, brave enough or whatever term you want to use to try and stop the corrupt political garbage in this county. None of the major posters of this website even want to get near the local corruption (correct Cookie65 and Dee#1?). So the power and fear are there and real. I know of another probation officer that felt the same way. I even know a District Attorney prosecutor who left his job and went to a different county to work. He said "I'm not raising my sons in this county".

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  • observerJanuary 21, 2014 - 5:56 pm

    TOTR I don't doubt you but that shows a larger problem than just local law enforcement. I guess it pays to stay off the radar. Drive Safely.

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  • EvelynJanuary 22, 2014 - 8:05 am

    "L.A. sheriff's deputies Tasered a young black man's genitals until he could "smell his flesh burning" after fining his father, who has nerve damage in one hand, $1,000 for dropping a cigarette on the street outside their home, the son claims in court." - HERE

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 22, 2014 - 8:47 am

    THANK YOU SHERIFF DEPT. !!!!! This morning: My grandson s bus stop is on the corner from my house--since he is 11...he would prefer I dont stand next to him anymore. so I compromise...I walk my dog half way down the block and up to watch out for the kids. this morning a vehicle from across the street was talking at my grandson--I dont know if he saw me...put stopped talking. I spoke with my grandson...and all the kids about not talking to strangers at all. then came home and called the sheriff. They responded right away--they went looking for the vehicle. It could have been nothing...someone just asking about our dog. But as a grandmother--I called the sheriff. I knew Mr Pitts from a school I taught at...the man who several years back tried to shove that child in the trunk of his car. That bus stop is right up the street. do not take chances when kids are involved. I put my faith in the law enforcement up here. And I thank them for looking into it for me. People--dont talk to children at bus stops...we tell them not to talk to you. My grandson is a gentle soul--taught to be polite. Now for weeks--he will stand next to his grandmother to learn once again dont talk to strangers and Dont get in cars--even if you know the person. On the net--Pollock Pines is being marketed...come live in a quiet small community...one never knows who will answer.

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  • Robert D NollJanuary 22, 2014 - 9:06 am

    FRAN,wow,scary

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 22, 2014 - 9:24 am

    It was scary--it could have been nothing...but my heart was beating so fast...I spoke with all the kids...we talked back and forth...one of the seventh graders pointed out...that even though we are a small place--there are some creepy people that come into town because we are so close to the highway.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 22, 2014 - 9:36 am

    Go, Granny, go!!!

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