Friday, April 18, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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Shady and cryptic real estate deals

EDITOR:

At a recent Board of Supervisors meeting, Kirk Smith nailed it when he exposed the board and CAO of surreptitiously covering up questionable county real estate deals by not referring to the properties by known names on board meeting agendas and only using the cryptic Assessor’s Parcel Number as a description. Mr. Smith lamented, how many of us even know the APN of our own home?

Terri Daly, CAO, her assistant Kim Kerr, Russ Fackrell, Ed Knapp and the board have been secretly performing real estate deals and negotiations in closed sessions and under the guise of these cryptic agenda item descriptions so as to not garner public scrutiny. So much for open and transparent government.

Mr. Smith chastised the board for an earlier meeting whereby it advocated transparency in government, but only a week later approved a 10-year lease for the problem-plagued “Logan Building” for $3,276,907 without referring to it by its name so the public wouldn’t know what was going on or be able to cross reference all of the old Grand Jury reports, reports which stated the county should never occupy this facility again. Mr. Smith further described how the county lost over $1 million on this property previously owning it and later disposed of it. This May, the board, for some crazy, hair-brained reason, decided to take a very expensive walk down memory lane again and defy of all the Grand Jury’s advice while ignoring a less costly competing offer from its existing landlord and sabotaging the landlord’s lease proposal. As Mr. Smith previously lectured the childish Board of Supes, “You knew it was wrong and you did it anyway.” Now the county has a percentage of the population that can’t access Mental Health services and the county is spending ridiculous amounts of money, time and resources bussing patients back in forth in van pools to Diamond Springs.

Mr. Smith went on to describe how there have been two secret closed session meetings in the last week over the highly contentious Briggs Court House project, also secretly disguised by cryptic APN, but now also garnering state scrutiny. Today there was yet another agenda item on the Briggs Court House on the consent agenda approving an extension of the Briggs Court House option agreement which benefits Briggs.

The third property that the county has been dealing on in secret and referring to only by APN is the county’s proposed acquisition of the Pioneer Plaza Office Building across from the Movie Theater at 344 Placerville Drive for $1,750,000.

Shame on this deceitful Board of Supervisors, CAO and staff. You know better than this and several of you should be recalled or fired.

JACK DUFFY
Diamond Springs

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 5:40 pm

    Will the District Attorney please report for duty. You have a job to do. And for those who believe you should report county hanky panky to a Supervisor vice the District Attorney, well have you ever heard of investigations covered with whitewash? Here is how it would go: Supervisor would ask the alleged perps if they have done anything wrong. Upon the perps saying "no, of course not," the investigation would be over.

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  • what?December 30, 2013 - 6:01 pm

    James, You're so exasperating that I have come down with a headache. Keep it up and you will compel me to fly off the handle and make a total a$$ of myself. Stop making ridiculous suggestions about investigations and whitewash and all that kr@p. There is no hanky panky in this county ...... there are not even any hankies ......... so peddle the panky talk elsewhere.

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 30, 2013 - 7:48 pm

    James, this ground was ploughed last August. (links below) Mr. Duffy needs to stop. It was not corruption in August, and It has not ripened.

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  • VernDecember 30, 2013 - 10:04 pm

    So, what can be done? Removeing Supervisor John Briggs brother-in-law, Judge Bailey, from the Grand Jury, which I believe there were good grounds s for doing was a good start. One of the Grand Jury’s functions (actually the primary function) is to investigate elected officials to determine if there is any misfeasance, malfeasance, or nonfeasance. Section 919 (c) of the Penal Code requires the grand jury to inquire into the willful or corrupt misconduct in office of public officers of every description within the county. Where misconduct is found, the grand jury may file an accusation leading to a trial. As reviewed by Frank Dougherty and Dennis Myers, misconduct in office could include any of the following: Nonfeasance: (1)The failure to act where duty requires an act; or (2)Neglect or refusal, without sufficient cause or excuse, to do that which is the officer’s legal duty to do, whether willfully or through malice; or (3)Willful neglect of duty. Misfeasance: (1)The improper of doing of an act that a person might lawfully do; or (2)The performance of a duty or act that one ought to do or has a right to do, but in a manner such as to infringe upon the rights of others. Malfeasance: (1)The doing of an act that is positively unlawful or wrong; or (2)the performance of a wrongful act that the person has no legal right to do…………… If you feel what’s going on in El Dorado County is wrong, file a complaint with the Grand Jury

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 5:49 pm

    Evelyn, when someone DEMANDS you answer their questions, tune them out. Actually, in this case, even when they ask nice.

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 6:16 pm

    What?, I regret causing you to have a headache. Now, back to hanky panky business, you know my name but I don't know yours. Who are you? Are you in county government and worried the DA is going to yell into his loudspeaker, "This is the DA, we have you surrounded, come out with your hands up." Who is What?, who hides behind his veil?

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  • what?December 30, 2013 - 7:00 pm

    Secret identities are my thing .......... I'm the original gutless wonder.

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 30, 2013 - 6:18 pm

    Jack Duffy, it is dishonest of you to characterize the BOS' use of APNs as "surreptitiously covering up questionable county real estate deals ". You have been trying to make this dog hunt for months now. I thought we retired this poor pooch back last August when I pointed out to you that that "secret APN" deal on Placerville drive was pursuant to GJ recommendations. The property (Pioneer Plaza Office Building) was appraised at $2,183,094 for taxes. It was listed at $1,850,000.00. It was sold to the County for $1,750,000.00. It had been rented by the County for years. The Grand Jury's recommendation was to PURCHASE THE BUILDING. ~~~ supporting links ==========> LINK - Jack Duffy's May 03, 2013 LTE with pertinent Phil Veerkamp comments @ August 09, 2013 - 9:40 pm

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  • robertdnollDecember 30, 2013 - 6:41 pm

    good job MR DUFFY,keep it up

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 30, 2013 - 6:56 pm

    Robert, in praising Mr. Duffy are you saying the CAO ought to ignore GJ reports??? LINK - COUNTY LEASED BUILDINGS EXPENDITURE Internal Investigation - GRAND JURY 05-055 - El Dorado County government offices are housed in both county owned and county leased properties. The County pays over $2.2 million a year on leased properties. El Dorado County continues to unnecessarily lease, rather than own, facilities for county departments. The County should aggressively replace leased facilities with owned facilities. - - - MENTAL HEALTH/Admin. - 344 Placerville Drive - Suites 12-18 & 20 - $92,034.00 - - - MENTAL HEALTH - Suite 11 - $14,288.16

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 30, 2013 - 7:04 pm

    Robert, the County had been taxing the prior owner of Pioneer Plaza Office Building at the appraised value of $2,183,094. The County paid $433,000 less than the value at which it had been taxing the property. Does the County owe the prior owner a tax refund? . . . just wondering, Robert.

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  • JimBoJanuary 05, 2014 - 9:30 pm

    Phil, you really need to do your homework and read the GJ reports. The determination of the GJ reports is that the County should not purchase buildings based soley on the lowest pers square foot (PSF) price as a deciding factor, as there are many other factors that should be considered and cost the County dearly later.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 05, 2014 - 11:02 pm

    jimbo, you really need to do your homework and read the GJ reports, and cite the text recommending AGAINST purchase of 344 Placerville Drive.

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  • JimBoApril 11, 2014 - 11:10 am

    Looks like I was right again Phil. The COUNTY JERKED IT OUT OF ESCROW in the 11th HOUR!

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 8:46 pm

    Phil, I was never interested in the leasing of county buildings, more interested in the CAO and her assistant.

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 30, 2013 - 8:54 pm

    James, they (CAO) are what they do. (lease buildings) You cannot be interested in one without civing close scrutiny to the other. Mr. Duffy imputes corruption by pointing to non-corrupt activities. James??? This is a witch hunt.

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 31, 2013 - 7:11 am

    . . . without giving close scrutiny . . .

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 8:57 pm

    Phil, so the CAO and her assistant only function is to lease buildings? Gosh, I thought they did other things too. If they only lease buildings, I think they are being paid too much.

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 30, 2013 - 9:00 pm

    James, if you're interested in the CAO and Ms, Kerr, you're gazing at "Kevlar". Look up to the DA and Auditor Controller. Your aim is low.

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 9:02 pm

    Phil, why would they be Kevlar? Somehow above the law?

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 30, 2013 - 9:05 pm

    James, Your "dumb suit" is very unbecoming.

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 9:54 pm

    Phil, dumb suit or smart suit. That is the question.

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 10:04 pm

    Phil, are you inferring that the DA and the controller (or comptroller) are worthy of being looked at corruption wise?

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 31, 2013 - 2:18 pm

    LINK - THIS COULD BE YOU!

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 10:07 pm

    Or, do you infer the entire crew in EDC -- less than straight?

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 10:11 pm

    OK, as I'm 14 my Mom says I have to floss and brush and go to bed. Tomorrow.

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  • James E.December 30, 2013 - 10:17 pm

    OK, off to floss. Later.

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  • R SmithJanuary 15, 2014 - 8:50 am

    The Brown Act provides that real-estate negotiations may be held in closed session. Any action taken must be reported in open session.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 9:19 am

    Properties agendized for discussion & approval at BOS meetings need to be identifiable. Otherwise, how can intelligent decisions be made?

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 9:34 am

    If the APN is insufficient then where is the threshold of sufficient? Most engaged citizens have the ability to Google an APN. Are you suggesting legal notice be supplemented with maps? If that is the case then the mountain Democrat will balloon up impressively.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 9:41 am

    Most agendized BOS property transactions do in fact identify subject properties in a manner readily understood by supervisors and the public. This can easily be corroborated by reviewing BOS agendas.

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  • residentJanuary 15, 2014 - 10:04 am

    Ignorance of how things work is no excuse.

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  • JimBoJanuary 15, 2014 - 7:29 pm

    Phil, Phil, Phil. A Google search of an APN DOES NOT yield ownership information of a specific property. You either need to be very adept at navigating the County's various online Recorder's Index, Tax Collector's Index and Planning Department records and cross referencing or you need to have access to a paid subscription program to be able to pull up the ownership info. Better enter the APN exactly with the -100, -200 extension, or it won't work. 90%+ of the average citizens will flunk this test. Also keep in mind, on many of these searches, the County attempts to hide the owner's name or make it difficult to obtain. After saying all that, I still can't remember any of my own assessor's parcel numbers, so I guess it is open and transparent to either publish the owner's name or the address of the property. P.S. No one wants the Pioneer Plaza except the dumb County who couldn't make a decent real estate deal if they tried.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 9:30 pm

    JimBo, JimBo, JimBo, if you think that Googleing APNs is difficult try searching for Medal of Honor winners from El Dorado County. You did say that your son is one? Didn't you tell the forum how your PTS hero son was driving guns back and forth from the range in spite of your best advice? How's he doing? ~~~ ALSO ~~~ Why do you keep deleting my inquirys, jimbo?

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 15, 2014 - 8:57 am

    Save Hollywood is fighting back down south--and they are starting to win Save Hollywood--wood be like Save our county...all over the USA people are trying to fight high density development. Pay close attention to the Chambers all over...some good--most not. http://www.savehollywood.org/?p=1192 Down south they have money to fight back in court...but those wins will help other places. http://www.savehollywood.org/?p=1192 the more visual and performing artists (which include film actors) are getting involved...the more money will be poured into the cause.

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  • Fly On The WallJanuary 15, 2014 - 9:51 am

    Kirk Smith's assertion was that an APN # should be supplemented with a NAME, not a map. The current Brown Act SOP is to provide the barest-minimum information required under the law, hence the public is kept in the dark about what goes on behind closed doors. Legal, maybe. Ethical or transparent, NOT.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 10:02 am

    Do BOS and other gov't agencies work for and on behalf of their constituents? Or, are their constituents (the voting public) mere subjects?

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 10:23 am

    Show me the evidence that a majority or even a substantial segment of the BOS's constituents feel ill served by the Prospector Plaza acquisition? A constituent's personal dissatisfaction with a particular action does not transform that constituent into servile subject status. It means that the BOS went in another direction. I would even suggest that occasions arise when a BOS needs to rule contrary to the majority. It's called leadership.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 10:14 am

    FOTW, with or without APNs, names, maps, eight by ten color glossy photos with pictures and arrows . . . BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BUSINESS will still be misrepresented as corrupt and shady. The Prospector Plaza property transaction was not corrupt a few months ago and it still is not corrupt. Mr. Duffy needs a new cause. The manufactured corruption industry is tedious and camouflages and obscures the real deal.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 10:38 am

    @10:02 am is not specific to Prospector Plaza. It is about providing essential information. BOS itself needs to know what property is the subject of discussion. Normally BOS agendas (available online and to the public) contain pertinent data. And nowhere has anyone suggested that majority rule by the public is the criteria for decision-making. But the public has the right to be properly informed. Or . . . would you argue otherwise?

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  • JimBoJanuary 15, 2014 - 7:15 pm

    Actually, there is malfeasance, conflicts of interest and corruption surrounding the deal which you are not privy to. The information has been turned over to the authorities investigating.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 7:24 pm

    Best wishes.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 10:45 am

    yes, properly informed - but for some a personal tutor and information spoon feeding will still fall short.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 11:13 am

    Identifying a property by address (as per the norm) is spoon feeding the Board of Supervisors?

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 11:30 am

    I apologize. I interpreted your, "But the public has the right to be properly informed . . ." to mean that all this "cryptic APN" stuff was slipping slippery deals past the public. I allowed that segments of the public would still feel out of the loop with spoon feeding. I didn't realize that you thought that the BOS was hoodwinked by APN citations and might also benefit from spoon feeding. My mistake. YES! Spoon feed all.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 11:33 am

    Alas, you are easily mislead. The BOS agenda is identical to that available to the public. As it should be.

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  • Nancy Pelosi fan clubJanuary 15, 2014 - 11:30 am

    P.S. Responses directed to us via the Mt. Democrat cannot be accepted.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 11:45 am

    Reread your 11:13 AM

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 12:12 pm

    My 11:13 am follows your "spoon feeding" @10:45 am. In case it's not clear, the weekly Agenda is the vehicle for providing information to the BOS (and, therefore, to the public). The public has an opportunity to make input. For that input to be meaningful, the two -- BOS & public -- must be referencing the same information. And the BOS is not expected to have to do property research (online, or otherwise) at the Assessor's Office to identify subject properties.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 15, 2014 - 12:44 pm

    What a happy revelation it must be for the BOS to learn that their obligation to be informed is no greater than John Doe's! Read the agenda. Presto! Job done. . . . or . . . Perhaps the members of the BOS receive packets that reach far deeper into issues and provide substantially greater information than the agenda? You' seem to be saying that the agenda circumscribes the BOS' information.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 1:28 pm

    Ahhh. We've discovered the crux of a communication problem. Simply, not everyone is familiar with BOS weekly meeting Agendas. Each item on the BOS Agenda links to an online file of any/all other documents pertinent to that single item. By way of example, HERE are documents that will be linked to concerning an item about the Animal Shelter at the BOS meeting to be held on 2/25/2014. Everything found on the page this comment links to for that one item. Please browse through them before continuing this conversation.

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  • EvelynJanuary 15, 2014 - 1:59 pm

    P.S. You will note at the linked online file a total of 74 documents (some very lengthy, most rich in legalese) as well as links to the preceding 22 BOS meetings that comprise this file. And ..... since, we've come this far, I wish to acknowledge the only person in this county I know of who manages -- week by week -- to master the detail of BOS Agendas: Sue Taylor.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 6:08 am

    Evelyn - RE: ~~~ " Please browse through them (animal shelter documents) before continuing this conversation." My commentary on Mr. Duffy's assertion/insinuation that there is corruption hidden behind the Prospector Plaza property acquisition is focused on . . . . Prospector Plaza. So rest easy. I have no desire to comment at any level on the animal shelter, the Logan building, the future court house or JimBo's fictions. The county has been RENTING Prospector Plaza space for DECADES. The GJ advised purchase. A purchase was made below appraisal value. Where's the beef?

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  • EvelynJanuary 16, 2014 - 6:32 am

    Communication Problem: insoluble. Dodgeball anyone?

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 6:50 am

    Try this - RED, GREEN, BLUE, YELLOW, COMMUNICATION, PURPLE - What does not fit? If you chose "communication" then you have a chance of understanding my point that "Prospector Plaza" does not fit with Logan, animal shelter, courthouse . . . And referring to Prospector Plaza by APN does not support Mr. Duffy's, "Shady and cryptic real estate deals"

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  • EvelynJanuary 16, 2014 - 8:46 am

    Pioneer Plaza morphed into Prospector Plaza?

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 9:27 am

    You are correct. I have misidentified Pioneer Plaza. ALL of my references to "Prospector Plaza" actually refer to Pioneer Plaza. ~~~ Pioneer Plaza. ~~~ Pioneer Plaza. times 100.

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  • EvelynJanuary 16, 2014 - 10:14 am

    Congratulations; you can pass GO. Now, using ONLY the internet, identify the address & owner of APN 323-400-23.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 12:40 pm

    The person or persons with whom the negotiator may negotiate is Pioneers Plaza Ltd. . . . ~~~ Had the person been . . . uh . . . say . . . Sue Taylor would Pioneers Plaza's bonafides be enhanced or would Sue Taylor's bonafides be diminished? Is the integrity of the deal a function of the property or a function of the previous owner? The GJ recommended acquisition. On what basis do you impeach that report?

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  • AmusedJanuary 16, 2014 - 6:56 am

    Don't waste time looking for Pierson to do much of anything. When he was at the Amador D.A.'s office he and his boss did nothing to control then Ione City Mgr. Kim Kerr, despite two scathing Grand Jury reports. Interesting how he can convince a defunct Grand Jury to deliver a finding then it dissolves. Compare the probable cause that exists for prosecuting Kerr vs. Nutting, or the DUI that caused a wreck after being served by "celebrities" at a political function. Kerr and Pierson are a toxic combination. El Dorado needs a serious cleaning.

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  • EvelynJanuary 16, 2014 - 7:10 am

    Where was the wreck reported?

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  • AmusedJanuary 16, 2014 - 7:28 am

    The wreck was reported on Highway 50, DUI drifted over and hit an on-coming car driven by a Raphael Townsend. Story was in Righton Daily blog a while back.

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  • political insiderJanuary 16, 2014 - 10:39 am

    I'm sure you are amused, but inaccurate. The DUI accident you mentioned was by a Alan Hengel Sac prosecutor Oct 31 on HWY 50. He is being prosecuted By Eldorado county. There was a Gloria Mas DA for Eldorado county who was convicted of DUI and later terminated and Ex-DA Lacy was busted for DUI. None of them were involved or attended the fund raiser.

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  • AmusedJanuary 16, 2014 - 8:02 am

    Ooops, my error. Steers was merely arrested DUI, articles Oct.25,2013. The wreck involved another morally challenged D.A. from Sacto. So many screw-ups by those that should have known better, it becomes difficult to separate their activities. Anyone know if Steers was/is being prosecuted?

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  • In the knowJanuary 16, 2014 - 8:26 am

    Court records show that Steers plead guilty and was sentenced Dec 10th to 4 days jail and 4 years probation. Standard sentence for a first time offender. DA might want to chose better friends.

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  • political insiderJanuary 16, 2014 - 8:33 am

    Amused, small point. I don't believe the Sky Mote fund raiser that Steers attended was political. I was there and I never viewed the DA serving drinks. Steers was at the bar inside. Let's avoid labeling a fine cause, remembering a War Hero by our community for political expediency.

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  • can you spell corruptionJanuary 16, 2014 - 9:05 am

    What. Who are you? "there is no hanky panky in this county". LMAO

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 16, 2014 - 10:35 am

    Miss Evelyn...just passing through...I do not know the owners of those numbers...used to be easier to find information. You have probably seen this report--but maybe others have not. http://www.hcd.ca.gov/hpd/hrc/plan/he/he_documents/placerville_5th_draft082313.pdf since there is now a precedent in LA...it will be interesting to see what goes to court. Isnt that the whole reason for a new general plan--because it spent so much time in court. Might be fun to look for those owners later.

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 16, 2014 - 10:45 am

    One of the things that the reform group does consistently is keep going over these items • Land Use; • Housing; • Transportation; • Public Facilities and Services; • Natural, Cultural, and Scenic Resources; • Health and Safety, and • Community Design. Just as its main committee does (CEDAC) how could this subcommittee ever think they were not covered under the Brown Act? (Please they know.) The above are all components of the general plan. CEDAC was appointed by the BOS--and has accepted money...any group under them has to follow the Brown Act...as the counselor had stated...several times.

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 16, 2014 - 11:06 am

    Tom Kruepke maybe....http://www.cityofplacerville.org/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?BlobID=8198

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 16, 2014 - 11:10 am

    good report--wrong guy

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 16, 2014 - 12:08 pm

    Very hard serch Miss Evelyn...there are many branches all over the world, here, China, India Under Pioneer plaza Private LTD. It is a non government private holder "thing" Most sites say there isnt even a phone number. I have failed. It is a ghost corporation.

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 16, 2014 - 1:00 pm

    Bloomberg businessweek http://tinyurl.com/k7lxab7 Pioneer Plaza, Ltd. does not have any Key Executives recorded. A dear person to me said this is common for people who have money--to have a ghost corp, instead of using their information--it is why this LTD is bouncing all over.the net This one in the article is just one site of many. So who owns the property in Placerville?

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 2:12 pm

    Fran, back in August Dan Weston wrote in In El Dorado County and by citing Logan Building problems transplanted suspicion and insinuated corruption onto a proposed acquisition of the Pioneer Plaza property. He made at least one FALSE assertion, " not nearly ADA compliant, no elevator, etc., etc - LINK - Opinion: Trust the government? I remember the Logan Building! - not nearly ADA compliant, no elevator, etc., etc - It is true that there is no elevator. It is also true that no elevator is needed. The top floors are accessed by DRIVING UP HILL IN BACK and parking at the same elevation/level as the second level. This controversy MANUFACTURED. The faulty logic seems to be: There was a problem with Logan therefore there is a problem with Pioneer. Fran, there is no there there!!!

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  • Fran DuchampJanuary 16, 2014 - 2:53 pm

    Hey Phil (waving happily) I remember all the stories--even the signature of John V. Wayland--Pollock pines PO box. but Evelyn asked for online only...heavy sign...it went no where--just big circles...oh well (perking back up) New story...lolol. A tiny house adorned with tomato cans and grocery bags By Jennifer Karmon | Spaces – 21 hours ago Are tiny houses becoming too "cookie-cutter"? ( I loved the mini mansions...but now they are staring to look the same. Up here someone came up with bridge, orange, brown, and green for colors...it is becoming "boring." there is the ugly blue sign....lololol...which if you come up--please take a moment to look at it --to figure how anyone thinks its reflect our environmental heritage. but to the new story....http://tinyurl.com/n5nft76 Oh look bright shiny thing ------> never mind--false alarm. Also if you come--can you figure out why some of the opposing group keeps saying we are like Carmel by the sea...I have looked and looked--no seagulls or anything. I love the sea...it is just not here. lololol too much coffee.

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  • EvelynJanuary 16, 2014 - 2:54 pm

    MINUTES (5/3/13) of The Eldorado County Mental Health Commission (here) record that ADA changes would be needed at Victory Mine [previously, Logan Building]. Specifically noted: "Victory Mine Center does not have an elevator between floors, and that this would seem to be a compliance issue, particularly for current or future disabled staff members." (1) Many mental health clients use public transportation. Presumably they disembark at street level. (2) Once inside the building, the mode of transportation becomes irrelevant. How do disabled staff and/or clients move between floors? It appears that if the ADA controversy was manufactured, it was not by Jack Duffy or Dan Weston.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 3:37 pm

    . . . and yes, it was Dan Weston who FALSELY asserted that Pioneer Plaza needed elevators. It was Duffy who parroted Weston. It is Evelyn who repeats the false information of Weston through Duffy.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 3:30 pm

    Evelyn, you seem to be importing ADA issues pertinent to Logan into Pioneer. There are no ADA issues with Pioneer Plaza. Lower level functions are segregated from upper level functions at Pioneer. Lower level employees have no duties on the upper level and visa versa. The functions of the two levels are segregated. Can you imagine, for instance, DMV on one level and Social Security on another? If by chance a disabled person has business at both DMV and SS then that person uses the same transportation arrangements that got him to DMV to arrive at SS.

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  • EvelynJanuary 16, 2014 - 3:38 pm

    Huh? The Mental Health Minutes (and my comment) were about Victory Mine (formerly, Logan Building) and were cited in response to your Logan Building link @2:12 pm. Perhaps this is all getting too confusing. I'm exhausted!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 16, 2014 - 3:45 pm

    Yes, the link at 2:12pm - READ! - 5th paragraph - Weston conflates Logan problems with Pioneer - !!!!!!!

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  • EvelynJanuary 16, 2014 - 3:42 pm

    I surrender. Whatever you say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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By Cole Mayer | From Page: A1 | Gallery

Woman, dog back from Oso

By Wendy Schultz | From Page: A1, 8 Comments | Gallery

 
 
 
DA candidate to remain on ballot

By Dawn Hodson | From Page: A9

Dog talk with Uncle Matty: Benji and the Bickersons

By Matthew Margolis | From Page: A10

 
CPCSD seat unfilled

By Dawn Hodson | From Page: A14, 1 Comment

Lew Uhler backs Ranalli

By News Release | From Page: A14, 6 Comments

 
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Letters

District 4 candidate

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A7, 16 Comments

 
Open meetings

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A7, 6 Comments

Volunteers and homeless camps

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A7, 71 Comments

 
Bicycle events and traffic control

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A7, 6 Comments

Evacuation

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A7, 6 Comments

 
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Sports

Savannah Stephens can swing the bat

By Jerry Heinzer | From Page: A11 | Gallery

 
King of the West roars into Placerville

By Gary Thomas | From Page: A11

First and goal: Bunt etiquette

By Mike Bush | From Page: A11

 
Oak Ridge suffers tough 2-1 setback

By Mike Bush | From Page: A11

Jennings wins national title

By Democrat Staff | From Page: A11, 1 Comment | Gallery

 
Roundup: April 17, 2014

By Democrat Staff | From Page: A12 | Gallery

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Prospecting

Plantastic sale this Saturday

By Dawn Hodson | From Page: B1 | Gallery

 
Spring art brightens government center

By Democrat Staff | From Page: B2 | Gallery

Things to do: April 18, 2014

By Democrat Calendar | From Page: B2

 
Time out: A grand time at Grand China

By Earle Camembert | From Page: B3 | Gallery

Temple Kol Shalom hosts Passover Seder

By News Release | From Page: B3

 
Student art featured for Third Saturday

By News Release | From Page: B3

Promenade in high style

By Historic Old Sacramento | From Page: B4

 
Sac State Presents ‘Gypsy’

By California State Unversity, Sacramento | From Page: B4

Friday nights are engaging at the de Young

By Fine Arts | From Page: B5

 
Hats On For the Kids raises money for children

By Democrat Staff | From Page: B6

See what is inside the vault

By Center For Sacramento History | From Page: B6

 
Eggstravaganza

By Fairytale Town | From Page: B6

Gallery tips a hat to Dr. Seuss

By Democrat Staff | From Page: B7

 
Museum presents ‘Diesel Days’

By California State Railroad Museum | From Page: B7

Engagement: Adam Frega and Wednesday Bienusa

By Democrat Staff | From Page: B8

 
Duty: Air Force Airman Brian Polk

By Democrat Staff | From Page: B8

Cal Stage presents a season of challenging productions

By California Stage | From Page: B8

 
Duty: Army Pfc. Kyle W. Beasy

By Democrat Staff | From Page: B8

KVIE calls for artists

By Kvie | From Page: B9

 
A Couple of Blaguards tell tales

By Harris Center for the Arts | From Page: B9

America’s ClayFest II celebrates a rich history

By Blue Line Arts | From Page: B14

 
Fine Arts Museums feature two shows

By Fine Arts | From Page: B15

See wildflowers on train ride

By Railtown | From Page: B15

 
Easter at Northstar is family friendly

By Northstar California | From Page: B15

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Essentials

Crime Log: March 28-30

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A2

 
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Obituaries

Arthur W. Cornell

By Contributor | From Page: A2

 
Frank “Bud” Kraus Jr.

By Contributor | From Page: A2

Roy Cluness Chaix

By Contributor | From Page: A2

 
Frederick Wilbur Heymann

By Contributor | From Page: A2

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Real Estate

Faster sales with spring staging

By Ken Calhoon | From Page: HS4

 
Coldwell Banker outsells the competition

Press Release | From Page: HS7

Handsome Redmond suits modern families

Press Release | From Page: HS11

 
Growing your own

By Marni Jameson | From Page: HS14

 
Fraud workshop scheduled

Press Release | From Page: HS21

HCD launches assistance program

Press Release | From Page: HS22, 1 Comment

 
EZ Mortgages Inc. opens Placerville office

By News Release | From Page: HS22, 2 Comments

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Comics

Speed Bump

By Contributor | From Page: A13

 
Working It Out

By Contributor | From Page: A13

Shoe

By Contributor | From Page: A13

 
Rubes

By Contributor | From Page: A13

Tundra

By Contributor | From Page: A13

 
TV Listings

By Contributor | From Page: A13

Sudoku

By Contributor | From Page: A13

 
New York Times Crossword

By Contributor | From Page: A14

Horoscope, Sunday, April 20, 2014

By Contributor | From Page: A14

 
Horoscope, Saturday, April 19, 2014

By Contributor | From Page: A14

Horoscope, Friday, April 18, 2104

By Contributor | From Page: A14

 
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Home Source

Faster sales with spring staging

By Ken Calhoon | From Page: HS4

Coldwell Banker outsells the competition

Press Release | From Page: HS7

Handsome Redmond suits modern families

Press Release | From Page: HS11

Growing your own

By Marni Jameson | From Page: HS14

Fraud workshop scheduled

Press Release | From Page: HS21

HCD launches assistance program

Press Release | From Page: HS22, 1 Comment

EZ Mortgages Inc. opens Placerville office

By News Release | From Page: HS22, 2 Comments