Monday, April 21, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

Supervisor Ray Nutting

EDITOR:

I have been keeping track of the situation involving Supervisor Ray Nutting. I will admit that I don’t have or know all of the details.

However, from what I have read, given my background in business, it appears to me that Supervisor Nutting did what every good businessman does. He has taken advantage of every opportunity to make a profit. He has seized every chance to increase his return on the investments he has made. As an entrepreneur and businessman, why shouldn’t he do everything to increase his return?

The purpose of being in business and investing is to make money. If what Supervisor Nutting did was take advantage of legal programs that are available to any business person then he is doing what he should as a businessman. The only question in my mind is did he use his influence as a supervisor to make his profit? If he used his status as an elected official to further his business interests in anything other than a legal manner, that will be adjudicated; if he didn’t, then all of this noise about Supervisor Nutting will be, to paraphrase William Shakespeare, “a tale full sound and fury signifying nothing.”

GERALD LILLPOP
Cameron Park

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  • George WashingtonAugust 21, 2013 - 9:48 am

    I agree. In fact, if you read the Grand Jury transcript, ADA Clinchard said as much to the Grand Jury. He told them that applying for the grants was perfectly legal, and had Ray disclosed the income as required, none of this would be an issue. But Ray didn't disclose it, he made up a fictitious company (Nutting Brush Clearing Co.) and he falsified documents when he didn't complete the work necessary to receive the grants in the required time frame. Like it or not, those are violations of the law, and he should be held accountable. Now we wait for the trial to see how it all plays out.

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  • 1036-FrankAugust 21, 2013 - 11:41 am

    He was working the system for income, this is a fact and as a private citizen might not of mattered much except for the problems with the illegal fires he was being paid for clearing the land to prevent and the wrong dates on forms submitted showing when work was done past the contract deadlines for the prop 40 grants. Appears he was also using county letterhead requests to be allowed to receive section 8 rent assistance, which an elected office holder can't receive and he wouldn't take no as the answer until it went to the top, also the rent asked for was suspect for the area. He further appeared to be collecting the over 100k in Prop 40 grants after voting to fund the districts the grants were in, then not disclosing the income and rental home income on 700 forms signed under penalty of perjury. When your an elected office holder you can't take advantage of programs and grants for citizens where your vote is involved or might be and could be influenced this is why there are conflict laws and 700 forms.

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  • DisgustedAugust 21, 2013 - 1:42 pm

    It seems from everything I have read this Supervisor has taken advantage if every opportunity and then some in the name if the County. Using his influences as a Supervisor to get what he wants to keep his costs down and take away from the people of this County that he is suppose to represent. Same in everyone who thinks this is ok.

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  • RailroadAugust 22, 2013 - 2:02 pm

    DEAR Gerald,if Raymond Nutting was a businessman then where is his business license? Where is the standard of ethics that any good businessman follows. Raymond Nutting put on his official election income statement that he is a (stump pusher), then where is the license? When Raymond Nutting cut a private road and house pad on the property of Mrs. Gilmore off of Sandridge road did he have a business license. When Raymond Nutting then pushed all of the trees and brush down the canyon, did he have any kind of a permit? NO! Raymond Nutting is a guy who thinks he is above the law. Raymond Nutting buys septic tanks and field equipment to install at other peoples homes. Does he have a business license or a permit or insurance? NO he is above the law and he is NOT a businessman.

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  • eileen p.August 22, 2013 - 8:48 pm

    Nuttings business is taking El Dorado County taxpayers money.

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  • BrendaAugust 23, 2013 - 1:54 pm

    Gerald passes himself off as a business minded individual. I would like to know what if any business he has ever run or been involved with? Other than being a mouthpiece for Ray and Shiva and a regular malcontent in Cameron Park you are not to be taken seriously.

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  • jimboyAugust 23, 2013 - 1:57 pm

    did you here ray bought a new tractor with your money!!

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  • RailroadAugust 23, 2013 - 6:47 pm

    Brenda, I just checked the active business licenses in El dorado county and Lolipop is not on the list.But it does seem that he drinks from the same puddle as Raymond Nutting.

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  • Walking TallAugust 23, 2013 - 11:57 pm

    Ray don't need no stinking licenses he just makes it up as he goes along, he wants us all to believe that everyone else did this to him, look in the mirror Ray you will find the person who did this to you there!!

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  • 1036-FrankAugust 25, 2013 - 10:41 am

    A business license is only for those involved in a legal business where something is offered for sale, in this case nothing but taking or trying to from the public tax payers has been the "business" being undertaken. By the time this is over there will likely be a ranch for sale or part of it for legal fees. All of the legal paperwork from "research" and planted as news at a certain bogus site by Nuttin's operatives sounds like a cash register bell ringing for each page add another thousand. This will easily start to add up into the six figures as the next brilliant idea is floated by the ever clever fiction writing defense team who's motto is "another day, another ranch for pay."

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  • EldoradoNovember 11, 2013 - 7:02 am

    Just heard some great news from today's Placerville Newswire.....Calif. State Court of Appeals to Investigate DA Vern Pierson's Conduct..- See more at: http://www.inedc.com/1-6750 ....I heard another big investigation is in the works as they will also be looking into a couple of the ex-ElDorado Co. Grand jurors who after they indited Nutting continued to stalk him and spread false rumors......

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 11, 2013 - 7:48 am

    Thanks, Eldorado ~~~ LINK - Calif. State Court of Appeals to Investigate DA Vern Pierson's Conduct - "Ray Nutting’s attorneys have received word from the Calif. State Court of Appeals Third Appellate District that his case has been accepted for further review. This is quite a win for the Nutting camp because The Court generally rejects 95% of the appeals it receives. The Court will now review the issues of the District Attorney’s misinstruction of the Grand Jury regarding . . . "

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