Wednesday, April 16, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
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Gun laws inevitable

EDITOR: If you are a devoted gun owner who is frightened that the government will take your guns away, you should enter the sane debate on “gun safety.” If you believe that we are going to ignore the frequent killings of children and adults, you are deceiving yourself.

President Obama has been too tolerant of the gun ownership. He, and Congress, will be pressured to act in response to wide public demand. We know, this will not immediately solve the problem, but that is no reason not to start some kind of serious gun control. It is coming. You can run out and buy all the guns you like now; the law permits it. At some point you will feel uncomfortable living next to neighbors who frown on gun ownership. They will be a little ahead of you, “more evolved,” as some of us say.

I learned this lesson as a schoolboy in the 1950s. Then our choice of weapon was a pea shooter. Anyone remember those? We had trouble controlling our urge, so we annoyed the teacher until the predictable point where she confiscated all the pea shooters. Any adult would have seen that coming. Of course we protested, but she would firmly point out that we had exceeded her limit of classroom disruption.

I know that sounds pretty harmless by today’s standard. It was an enduring life lesson. You are either part of the solution, or you are part of the problem. If you are a law-abiding gun owner, you have the responsibility to speak up. You need to tell the NRA to give up its nasty campaign to defend the indefensible. Tell your friends to seriously reflect on the responsibilities of gun ownership. The kind of heated talk we hear from the NRA and angry gun owners will end badly for them.

When more kids are mutilated, an armed teacher accidentally shoots a student, a neighbor has to tell that police he was certain the young man was reaching for a weapon, school guards are killed as a nut gains entry to the campus; then a public line will finally be drawn. It is inevitable. Even our sheriff would like to itch your gun finger.

Join the many concerned citizens. The last thing we want is your guns. What we would like is your serious ideas and your efforts to end the slaughter. We all have some kind of “mental issue.” You don’t want to be denied legal gun registration because your name appears on a list. You will not want to tell a therapist about your anger. Please, join us.

ASHLEY BLINN
Cameron Park

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 27, 2013 - 3:16 pm

    "The last thing we want is your guns". Again I say, sounds like we have no quarrel. Now that THAT's settled, want a serious idea? Put cops in schools, or keep em close by, patrolling a tight circle around the neighborhood during school hours. I went by Luther Burbank High in South Sac last week. The day I went by, no one was shot. Think the Sac City PD cruiser parked up front had anything to do with it?

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  • cookie65January 28, 2013 - 6:39 am

    "President Obama has been too tolerant of the gun ownership." Another classic example of complete ignorance of how our system of government functions. Everything that follows this sentence just adds to the ignorance. The "public demand" is drummed up by the obama media. There are more guns in America than there are citizens so everytime I hear some indoctrinated leftists claim to be in the majority it makes me cringe how easily influenced they are. Our first President had some immortal words, "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -George Washingon. I realize the views of the very people who gave you your liberty are wasted on people with a pre-existing agenda.

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  • EvelynJanuary 28, 2013 - 8:03 am

    Remember this: THE POLICE HAVE "NO AFFIRMATIVE DUTY" TO PROTECT US - HERE

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  • EvelynJanuary 28, 2013 - 8:23 am

    Linda Riss v. City of New York (1968) - "Linda Riss, an attractive young woman, was for more than six months terrorized by a rejected suitor well known to the courts of this State, one Burton Pugach. This miscreant, masquerading as a respectable attorney, repeatedly threatened to have Linda killed or maimed if she did not yield to him: 'If I can't have you, no one else will have you, and when I get through with you, no one else will want you'. In fear for her life, she went to those charged by law with the duty of preserving and safeguarding the lives of the citizens and residents of this State. Linda's repeated and almost pathetic pleas for aid were received with little more than indifference. Whatever help she was given was not commensurate with the identifiable danger. On June 14, 1959 Linda became engaged to another man. At a party held to celebrate the event, she received a phone call warning her that it was her 'last chance'. Completely distraught, she called the police, begging for help, but was refused. The next day Pugach carried out his dire threats in the very manner he had foretold by having a hired thug throw lye in Linda's face." - HERE

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  • MatthewJanuary 28, 2013 - 8:59 am

    Wanting people to register and insure the weapons already out there, and stopping future sales of assault weapons isn't taking away your guns, it's called recognizing a National health issue, being responsible gun owners, and plain common sense. Keep all the shotguns and bolt action rifles you want. You can defend your home GREAT with a 12 gauge shotgun. Right? Wanna carry an assault weapon? Serve your country. Wanna carry a handgun? Become a cop. Already own these things before we enact some common sense legislation? Prove you know how to use it on a regular basis, keep it registered and insured in case of unforeseen circumstances or accidents or give it up. Why is that so horrible? I already do that with my car and my dog, how does doing that with a weapon infringe on 2nd Amendment rights?

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  • 1036-FrankJanuary 28, 2013 - 9:06 am

    I guess all of us are still waiting for one meaningful liberal proposal that will reduce crime and disarm the felons, drug gangs, and mentally disturbed people with firearms. Instead of Moonbeam's early felon releases,three strike releases, and no new proposals to deal with the dangerously mentally ill.

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  • SPD employeeJanuary 28, 2013 - 9:14 am

    Post above; No unit was assigned to the Luther Burbank High School in Sacramento last week other than routine public relations, SPD employee.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 11:05 am

    SPD, assignment doesn't matter. All cops know that regardless of what they may be doing at any given moment, just their marked presence is a crime deterrence. Just this morning, I was at a shopping center on Stockton Blvd in SO Sac. There was an armed private security guard there, and he WAS assigned to be there. Looked like he had a .40 Glock in his hip. No one committed a crime there. Put away your phobia of firearms for just a moment folks; Are our schools less important than this shopping center? Think about it folks...

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 11:12 am

    And to Evelyn's point above, no, cops have no legal responsibility to protect us. Nor do the agencies or municipalities they work for. None! In Chicago, where the subjects have been disarmed, people have DIED while waiting for the cops to show up after a 911 call-sometimes for as many as 9 hours (look it up). The family of deceased victims have sued. And lost. It was determined that the government is not sworn to protect us and may not be held liable when they don't. "Protect and Serve" usually means to protect and serve the interests of the state. They can't guarantee your protection in Chicago, and it's illegal for you to do it yourself.Someone tell me; whose job is it to protect My family?

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  • James E.January 28, 2013 - 11:22 am

    Paddy, in the law it's called "no duty to rescue." That plus response times seems to leave us on our own.

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  • patio nut case, the jokes on you.January 28, 2013 - 11:51 am

    You just don’t get it you red neck tea party dummy; you’re an embarrassment to the people of El Dorado County, to the Republican Party and to our Nation. Don’t you get it, every gun you buy for ten times its worth the 99 billion dollar annually gun industry keeps getting richer and richer, how stupid can you be, its a sales pitch, there’s no army on the other side of the mountain, know one wants to kick your door down and take your stupid gun, its a sales pitch stupid, a "SALES PITCH", and you fell for it. Thats what the NRA does, gets you to buy more guns.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 12:03 pm

    In case anybody's wondering who the poster above is, it's Jeff. Jeff, I know there's nobody over the mountain coming to get me. I own guns cause I like them. And I don't pay anything higher than market value when I buy a gun. I'm a shopper. Every gun I own has appreciated in value since its purchase. And, if anyone ever decided to rob me, I want to be able to defend my wife, my 2 daughters, and my 2 sons. El Dorado is a big county Jeff, and response times can be long. People are robbed, have their homes invaded, and are killed all the time around the country. Not so much in our county though; but do you know why? Anybody? Jeff, have you had a rabies shot this year?

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 12:08 pm

    James, "no duty to rescue" is correct, thanks. They can't guarantee it because it's a virtual impossibility. Nothing wrong with that at all either. It's not logistically or fiscally possible. So that leaves the responsibility for our own safety squarely on our own shoulders. And there are those among us who simply are not comfortable with that...

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  • cookie65January 28, 2013 - 12:32 pm

    Hypocracy. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/26/if-assault-weapons-are-bad-why-does-the-dhs-want-to-buy-7000-of-them-for-personal-defense/

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 1:14 pm

    Very simple Cookie, the government wants a monopoly on violence.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 28, 2013 - 1:17 pm

    Absolutely Paddy, I live in a rural area and if something ever came down I would not be relying on our local law enforcement to make it there in time. Hell even if I lived in the city I couldn't rely on a good response time. We are responsible for our families! What these idiot sheeple don't understand is that one of these days their responsible neighbor that has a firearm may just end up saving them and theirs.

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  • Libs are the dangerJanuary 28, 2013 - 1:56 pm

    I find it hypocritical you Libs have no problem ranting against guns and the 2nd amendment, when the last six mass shootings were all carried out by registered Democrat's and left-wing Liberals....It seems a great fist step against gun violence in our country would be to just taking guns out of the hands of Liberals, but that would make too much sense...

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  • 1036-FrankJanuary 28, 2013 - 2:55 pm

    The usual liberal ideas are that someone will respond within minutes to their frantic 911 calls, even in rural counties, that felons, gang members, and dangerously mentally ill people are "Misunderstood" and if given enough free services and tax money they will reform, quit the drugs and violence and turn in their guns, and that Moonbeam will magically protect the law abiding from his hordes of early released convicts, out of control drug gangs, and thousands of parolees at large that are pouring into the counties.

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  • Jeff-PlacervilleJanuary 28, 2013 - 3:41 pm

    Many of us middle of the road left over warriors from one conflict or another feel that all this gun talk is from punks and losers who only see in movies what many of our counties 18,000 veterans have experienced for real and its getting old. Punks who believe the NRA is the Armed Force of the future, what knuckle heads. A little advice, losers always whine about their best cry and piss their pants. “Winners go home and ---- the prom. queen.”

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 4:16 pm

    Why, it's Richurd! Except now he's Jeff. We can't keep up with all your aliases Richurd/Rich/Rick/Jeff.

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  • cookie65January 28, 2013 - 4:27 pm

    Jeff, when you quote Sean Connery you should give him credit. You might even mention the movie. The Rock.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 28, 2013 - 4:30 pm

    Jeff the FBI agent wanna be, braggart, fink and now warrior of Placerville. So you don't like guns and those of us that do are punks and losers. Sounds to me like you're the one doing the whinning. Is your real name Richard Jeffery ____ or Jeffery Richard____?

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  • Tom GibneyJanuary 28, 2013 - 4:35 pm

    How about COmmon sense? COmmon Decency? Not more Laws...since As in Chicago They can;t enforce the ones they have already?? http://conservativevideos.com/2013/01/father-of-6-year-old-sandy-hook-victim-gives-emotional-speech-the-problem-is-not-gun-laws

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 4:47 pm

    Actually Richurd/Rich/Rick/Jeff, my wife was the Homecoming queen. Her twin was the prom queen. ;^) No kidding.

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  • cookie65January 28, 2013 - 4:53 pm

    Tom, if we had common sense in this country it would put the libs our of business.

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  • Jeff-PlacervilleJanuary 28, 2013 - 5:55 pm

    Seems people who do not want gun control have no reason to offer other than that they like guns, or their in the gun business.

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  • Bill of RightsJanuary 28, 2013 - 6:00 pm

    The history of the founding and the language of the rest of the Bill of Rights suggests they have a point. (Though not the whole point. One reason the founders wanted people to be armed is so they could put down insurrections, not just start them.)

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  • Great for gun sales;January 28, 2013 - 6:17 pm

    The NRA’s Paranoid Fantasy and the conservative media encourage members and listeners to view the Obama administration as “the very definition of dictatorship." ... Many would say that their ‘right’ to own any and every kind of firearm they please is the only thing that guarantees that tyranny won’t come to the United States. Well, guess what: They’re wrong.” All this is great for gun sales, for a short time, but absolutely fantasy.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 28, 2013 - 6:28 pm

    Gun Buy Back Fail" in Seattle: Gun buy turns into mini gun show this weekend as prospective surrenderers (?) sell to cash buyers who showed up and outbid the police hosting the event. Hilarious! Wish they'd do one of those here.

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  • Jeff-PlacervilleJanuary 29, 2013 - 8:36 am

    The real gun buy back story: The gun buyback in Seattle ended early because of the large crowd. Police say that after two hours, more than 160 guns had been turned in and $35,000 in gift cards had been distributed. Other buybacks are planned for later this year. The City of Seattle praised the buyback effort, saying it will reduce gun violence. But statistics show a previous effort in Seattle failed to do that.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 9:57 am

    Jeff do you deny using the name of Richard and Richard do you deny using the name of Jeff? Come on, stand up and try to be a man about it.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 10:07 am

    The REAL real gun buy back story that Jeff and his twin/alias Richard aren't telling us; Private buyers showed up outside the buy back and offered more than the city was. Many sold to the private buyers while many others, maybe out of fear, did indeed turn them in. When the City ran out of the gift card and started issuing IOUs, the sellers left and went to the private buyers. All private sales were legal. John Diaz, Seattles Police Chief, wasn’t pleased with the turn of events stating “I’d prefer they wouldn’t sell them,” but admitted it’s perfectly legal for private individuals to buy and sell guns...If they do something like that here, I'll be there-with cash. http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/01/backfire-seattle-gun-buyback-turns-into-gun-show-2458268.html

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  • RoseJanuary 29, 2013 - 11:57 am

    Jeff fess up, are you really Richard. And patio, are you really DB Smith?

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  • RichardJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:03 pm

    Why is the AR-15, a weapon of war in civilian use and so easily acquired across the country? Why is it not restricted for military and law enforcement use only? Not only is there no federal ban on assault weapons, the vast majority of states have no specific laws restricting these dangerous weapons or high-capacity magazines. Yes, bad people could still get them on the black market. Yes, handguns kill far more people in America than weapons like the AR-15. So what? What happen in ten years when there 5 million of these weapon circulation? Reasonable people can agree that such weapons can be restricted among civilians without threatening the Second Amendment rights of others. NRA nut-cakes will never understand.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:10 pm

    Rose, I don't think Jeffard is man enough to fess up and I only wish I could be as articulate as Paddy.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:14 pm

    BTW ~ Rosie, were you the Rose that was looking for a couple of free turkeys on Thanksgiving? Who's zooming who again.......

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  • Placerville NativeJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:16 pm

    Paddy-DB Smith, so what! What difference does it make?

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:25 pm

    Placeville Native, the difference is that a coward that hides can say anything they want to and think they don't have to worry about the consequences. Little do they know that eventually they will be caught up with. Believe that.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:26 pm

    Placerville Native, the difference is that a coward that hides can say anything they want to and think they don't have to worry about the consequences. Little do they know that eventually they will be caught up with. Believe that.

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  • heatherJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:33 pm

    You’re a hypocrite Smith, “I’ll tell you my real first name if you tell me your last. DB Smith

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  • MichaelJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:37 pm

    Last summer, after the Aurora killings, Scalia reiterated this point and the National Journal wrote: "There were legal precedents from the days of the Founding Fathers that banned frightening weapons, which a constitutional originalist like (Scalia) must recognize. There were also 'locational limitations' on where weapons could be carried, the justice noted." What "locational limitations" have the courts traditionally upheld as gun-free zones? Schools. So when the National Rifle Association advocated for armed guards at all schools on Friday, it was not only tossing out another red herring to distract people from targeting guns, it was going against legal precedent. Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/12/23/5072709/marcos-breton-we-can-and-should.html#storylink=cpy

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  • RonJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:45 pm

    Scalia seems ready to uphold bans on assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, if only politicians stopped being afraid of the NRA and banned them in the first place.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:47 pm

    Good luck getting someone dishonest enough to use multiple aliases to admit it. The only way to root them out is for the MD to provide the information, and they are motivated (clicks == $$) to keep it secret. My experience is that the ones doing the accusing are the most likely to be guilty.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:53 pm

    Well you're wrong this time Mac because I'm doing the accusing and I am not guilty or hiding from anything. The cowards are doing the hiding!

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  • JuneJanuary 29, 2013 - 12:58 pm

    Supervisor Briggs requesting the Board authorize the Chairman to adopt Resolution 006-2013 in support of the Second Amendment and the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms. Supervisors of El Dorado County supports all discussions seeking ideas to protect citizens from violence.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 1:02 pm

    I've heard a few suggestions about using some restraint with regard to (Name (required)). I thought about it but then realized it would just require more government intervention and regulation and some form of taxation so I think I'll just learn to live with it. Carry on Richard and Jeff and Rose and Heather, et al......

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJanuary 29, 2013 - 1:05 pm

    Mr Smith -- And there is the crux of it...how can I trust you if I can't verify you are telling the truth?

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 1:11 pm

    Kirk, You don't have to trust me but I am who I say I am and I hope I can give you a good old fashion hand shake on that one of these days.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    This is really getting out of hand. There at least 5 aliases here that are obviously the work of the same person.

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  • MichaelJanuary 29, 2013 - 1:29 pm

    Bullying, Lies And The Rise Of Right-Wing. An entire generation on the wrong side of history, Smith, Paddy O'Furniture et al....

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 1:53 pm

    This apology was written for Richard. Hi everyone this is Richard speaking and I do confess that I have been using other names in order to try and get my point across. I realized at the time that just being Richard was not good enough, so I had to invent other fictitious persons that would embolden my thoughts. I realize now that I was being a coward and I ask for forgiveness. You're welcomed Richard and I forgive you.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:01 pm

    Tell you what, anyone who wants to know who I am, I'll do you one better. Come to Gun Show Friday morning and meet me in person. Don't worry, these shows are attended by the most friendly people in the area so even if you're hostile to guns, you'll be in no danger ;^) Some of the more mouthy folks who post here are the ones I'd really like to meet; Jeff/Richard, Darrin and now heather, Michael and Ron (probably the same people). Any takers, let me know. I'll tell you what I'll be wearing. Look me up and come say howdy. Just watch your mouth, my daughter will be with me.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:09 pm

    Paddy, was hoping to run into you at the show but I've gotta take mom to town on Friday for her pay day and errands. I'm going to go on Saturday afternoon with the boys. Don't buy everything on Friday.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:21 pm

    Mr Smith -- A hand shake is always good, but it doesn't do anything for the multiple alias problem. Accusing Richard, et al, of using them suffers from the same problem. No proof means we just don't know. Mr O'Furniture -- you seem a little nervous around this discussion...

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:28 pm

    So Kirk, the resolve would be to enact more regulation or just live with it. I'll choose to just live with it. We already have too many rules and regulations and I don't want to add anymore even if it's an annoying distraction.

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  • NancyJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:28 pm

    The gun rights issue is fueling our economy. Every time President Obama says the word "gun" people go out and buy more guns. Billions of dollars are being spent on firearms and ammo. Since Obama took office in 2008, Sturm, Ruger and Co. (RGR) stock price has gone from about $5 to over $50. All of this anti-gun talk is driving up gun and ammo prices and causing shortages of both. Gun makers are working at full capacity to keep up with production. The American people are becoming more armed, not less. Except for the gun opposing Democrats, of course.

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  • cookie65January 29, 2013 - 2:32 pm

    Don't buy guns, make your own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:34 pm

    How do we know your really Kirk MacKenzie???....

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:40 pm

    Cookie, I need to buy at least 1 more. The only guns I've ever made were 3 potato guns and OH what fun did we have. That's about as far as my gun making skills will go.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:40 pm

    Mr MacKenzie -- exactly! But since you are impersonating me, and I can prove that this alias is the real name of a real person, you are in the dark grey area of legality. The MD should take that sort of thing seriously. Mr Smith -- I'm not asking for regulations on this forum; I will ask the MD to provide a way to access the relevant information.

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  • cookie65January 29, 2013 - 2:41 pm

    The first statements of this letter are slightly troubling. It is addressed to "devoted" gun owners and makes no mention of law abiding gun owners. Then it goes on to make some claim about "ignoring" the frequent killing of children and adults without mentioning the criminals and mentally ill. As if the responsible law abiding gun owners are the issue. They are not. When mentioning the killing of children the writer makes no mention of the gang violence that also has nothing to do with resonsible law abiding gun owners. Nor does the writer mention that it is in fact the liberals who have given us the 'gun-free zones' that have left children and theatre attendees defenseless targets for the mentally ill. I guess my conclusion is every failure that has been created by liberalism is now the fault of responsible law abiding gun owners. Just like all of obama's failure are Bush's fault.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:46 pm

    Kirk, if anybody can get it done I trust that you can but it twasent me.

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  • cookie65January 29, 2013 - 2:47 pm

    DB, we planted potatos all over with our potato guns. What fun they are. Did you ever make any tennis ball cannons? You can shoot a tennis ball several hundred yards with a few old bud cans and some lighter fluid.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:51 pm

    Saw a show about pumpkin cannons-some could fire a pumpkin nearly a mile. They could be too ripe though, they'd explode right out of the barrel. they called that "making pie".

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:51 pm

    Never did the tennis balls Cookie but it does sound like fun. On the tater gun when you run out of starting fluid I know some good old cheap hair spray will work as a back up. FUN STUFF!

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  • EvelynJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:53 pm

    Many good reasons for making hairspray illegal. Now we have one more!

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  • EvelynJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:55 pm

    . . . and people wanting to purchase potatoes or pumpkins must first undergo background checks.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:57 pm

    Speaking of taters....I remember as a kid the buddies and I would stick a potato (is that with an e? ha) in the neighbors exhaust pipe and listen for the start up in the morning. EERRR...EEERRRR....EEEERRRRR.....KAPOW!!!!!

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  • EvelynJanuary 29, 2013 - 2:57 pm

    The makings of a future Chris Daley column on weapons control?

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  • cookie65January 29, 2013 - 3:05 pm

    Coors used to be available in the small cans like some juice drinks are today. They were the same diameter as a plastic lemon. We even made lemon cannons with them. You could shoot an empty plastic lemmon with enough force to knock someone over or go thru a plate glass window.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:05 pm

    Used to be, hair spray was flammable enough to make a makeshift blow torch. Worked great for getting spiders that up high out of your reach. It even took out the web at the same time. Very effective. Not very safe tho...

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  • James E.January 29, 2013 - 3:14 pm

    Paddy, I think Cookie and Dee are the same person. What do you think? Cookie when she's hyper, Dee when less hyper.

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  • James E.January 29, 2013 - 3:17 pm

    Paddy, how will we know it's you at the gun show? Will you be the tall, blond, blue eyed handsome guy?

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:18 pm

    James, I think you and Phil are the same person; you when feeling liberal, Phil when feeling conservative. Am I on to something here?

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:20 pm

    Oooooh James, you're darned close on my description. 6', 200#, blue eyes. Hair's not blond anymore. Went brown when I was a teenager, now going grey. Still not a bad looking dude, according to the Missus.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    OK colonel your turn..., how will we recognize you?

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  • James E.January 29, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    Paddy, you made me smile -- James E and Phil the same person. Good one! And, here's the primary clue: Both were in the Army, although I was in the front of the helicopter, while Phil was in the back.

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  • cookie65January 29, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    Sometimes I question James' professed ideology. It doesn't make sense for him to support the further deterioration of this country by people who truly have no appreciation for it. It doesn't pass the smell test.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:32 pm

    Yes Cookie! I just don't get it with him. At times he seems to be like a nice guy but then it turns to sh*t.

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  • James E.January 29, 2013 - 3:36 pm

    DB, well, I won't be there, but if I were: 4'8" tall, full head of hair, 450 lbs. Nickname: "The Barrel." Hope this is enough information to throw you off. Cookie, we are all the result of our past experiences -- obviously our experiences have been different.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:41 pm

    Colonel, I'll be on the look out for that description around town. :)

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:42 pm

    Cookie and DB, my gut instinct tells me that James is the real deal. Except for the barrel thing. Not sure about that.

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  • R.J. CarterJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:48 pm

    I have James pretty much figured out over the past couple years....He's a great guy, but just plain crazy,....Thats ok, crazy's good, crazy folks can be fun in small doses.....

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  • EvelynJanuary 29, 2013 - 3:53 pm

    Since we're doing character profiles, everyone on this forum iz jez regular folks, except fur when they disagree with me. I iz always regular folk!

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  • cookie65January 29, 2013 - 3:54 pm

    What in your past experiences James would cause you to believe that an ever intrusive government and ever diminishing liberties is an improvement? I am very aware what they teach in college and how they push the wonders of socialism but I also recall what Winstom Churchill said, “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”

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  • James E.January 29, 2013 - 3:57 pm

    Cookie, it's simple. Pessimists versus optimists concerning the future of our country. When surrounded some will say "We're finished. I prefer when surrounded to say, "We're surrounded, those poor b*stards!" Cookie, now if you and Dee would just give us your last names I could match them and see if you're the same person.

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  • James E.January 29, 2013 - 4:07 pm

    Cookie, that may be what Winston said, but here's what I said. "Show me a young or old Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart, show me a young or old Liberal and I'll show you someone with brains and compassion." Surely, you aren't going to believe Winston over me?

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  • JeffJanuary 29, 2013 - 5:13 pm

    It's hard enough to take the lies by vicious bloggers that are told about me, but I have a great support network and my Probation Officer has been more than gracious, so I feel extremely blessed. But that doesn't justify the cyber bullying going on every day by anti-government gun loving bloggers, deliberately deceitful writers, if they only knew enormous damage their doing by taking advantage of liberal’s compassionate nature. How clever is this, taking the compassionate nature of good people and using it against us? If we don't speak up, young people especially will be deceived. The spells some people fall under who become enchanted by guns is hard to break and so they go down destructive roads and their eyes are blinded, possibly for their whole lives and they spend eternity separated from a compassionate life because they denied liberalism and love for all man kind, over and over.

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  • DB SmithJanuary 29, 2013 - 5:20 pm

    Dang Jeff, that's about the biggest puke story I've ever heard. Hurry up cause I've got a couple of grandboys coming over for dinner........

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 29, 2013 - 5:31 pm

    Look Jeff,......... oh, never mind.

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  • Over-InformedJanuary 29, 2013 - 6:54 pm

    I think Jeff butchered a Republican Conservative Newt Gingrich speech, funny. Love the responds.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 30, 2013 - 7:28 am

    Paddy, RE: " . . . I was in the front of the helicopter, while Phil was in the back. You should have been there the time I "red Xed" the Colonel's ride. Talk about "high freq"!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 30, 2013 - 7:56 am

    After that, Paddy, The Colonel was near apoplectic. We took him to the NCO club and poured Jack Daniels down his gullet. After he passed out we painted his lips red and put a blond wig on ‘em. He woke up a liberal.

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  • EvelynJanuary 30, 2013 - 8:06 am

    "The County Sheriff:The Ultimate Check & Balance" - HERE

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  • James E.January 30, 2013 - 8:48 am

    Phil, you need to explain to the others what a red X means. Cookie will think it has something to do with Communists. And, you took me to the NCO club and poured booze down my throat, etc., etc. I think not. I do have a Club story -- in Germany I took my operations sergeant into the officer's club for lunch. The club manager said the NCO would not be allow to eat lunch in the dining room. I got a big bunch of irritated and ordered him to set up a table for two in the kitchen. You know, the food tasted just as good in the kitchen.

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  • Phil VeerkampJanuary 30, 2013 - 4:54 pm

    James (Cookie) I was overcome with apprehension this AM in a Des Moines, Ia. blizzard when I invented that red X story. Sorry. James isn't a commie - just a little pink.

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  • James E.January 30, 2013 - 6:27 pm

    But Phil, don't you want to explain to the MtDemocrat troops the meaning of the red X. Maybe not, as the aircraft log book is not all that interesting. I forget what they called those teams in Europe that would swoop down on my hangar and red X our aircraft to show how they knew best. While they were doing us, I had my tech inspectors go out and red X their aircraft. Boy, were they wizzed off. I told them if they wanted to fly out they would have to work off those red Xs. My guys stood around and watched -- was great for morale.

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