Friday, April 18, 2014
PLACERVILLE, CALIFORNIA
99 CENTS

Too great for hate?

EDITOR:

After reading a letter from Mr. Garon on Oct. 21, I had to respond. The underlying message is purely open hatred. Outrageously derogatory and inflammatory words are used to turn the audience into a frenzy — like Teahadist, bomb thrower, blackmail, inmates, asylum, kill, fascist, bilious, extremist and racist. It’s propaganda to make you angry so you stop thinking, otherwise it is easy to see through the hate and discover the truth.

Sadly, John is not alone. Patrick Stelmack, community organizer for California “Fair Share,” uses similar tactics with the truth but hides his real agenda. Funny how “fair share” can never be defined. It’s whatever politicians or labor organizers say it is. Does the Fire Tax seem like a “Fair Share” to you? How about carbon taxes? PG&E is one enforcer — look in this month’s bill. How about healthcare? It’s all income redistribution; theft, aka “fairness.”

Brian Deberry is another reader using hatred to destroy the most basic tenet of our judicial system — innocent until proven guilty. He would get a rope and silence Supervisor Nutting at any cost. Of course, those holding the rope can say and do whatever they wish, but not that evil man accused of terrible crimes. I’ve got news for you — Ray Nutting’s “terrible” crime was actively opposing the Fire Tax, helping people understand and file their appeals. For that he must be silenced. An example must be made.

El Dorado County had a slogan “Too Great for Hate,” one result of political correctness. We’ve moved past slogans, into the realm of “the end justifies the means.” This used to be a peaceful, friendly place to live. Serious and petty crime was rare, but now it has become commonplace.

We have a choice, good citizens. We can continue to tolerate hatred and “get a rope” injustice, or we can recognize that we are not groups, but individuals. We are not objects, but human beings with feelings who can hurt and be hurt by others. When you put individuals into groups, the individual’s self control is lost.

Many people these days want to tell others how to live. Are you so perfect that you should control the lives of others? Must we all be perfect in your image? Are you God? On the other hand, should I be forced to pay for your mistakes?  How else will you learn?  When government enters the equation, so does limitless, deadly force. That force may no longer be controllable. Throughout history, all governments have exceeded their authority and the results have been horrible. We are losing control right now.

Some people love to hate. I pity them because hate is poison. What do you say we try being “Too Great for Hate?” Lead by example, making your letters positive, informative, truthful, and sincere. Tackle serious subjects, but use facts, not propaganda. Outline the problem and suggest real solutions. Sources would be nice. Behave like adults and set the example for a change.

MARK E. SMITH
Garden Valley

 

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Discussion | 27 comments

  • MorrisNovember 06, 2013 - 12:55 pm

    Mr. Smith: As an individual with left of center political views, there are of course a few points within your letter that we will disagree upon. However, there are many more in which we agree upon or appear to have some common ground. But what stands out most - in my opinion - is that you have an excellent letter with excellent talking points. Excellent questions too. A refreshing break from what has become all too typical in the typical of folks who seem incapable of showing any form of respect in even the simplistic task of addressing an elected official by actual name or providing source and fact that prove-up their viewpoint. My personal feeling is that Mr. Garon is rather good at providing facts that he feels support his argument. Rarely have I seem this courtesy returned from those who have an alternate opinion. In fact, most seem full on venom and conjecture and low on verifiable, real-world data. However, it is clear that some of the verbiage can and does inflame those with more conservative beliefs. And it's happened the other way around with the left bringing the venom. Rather like a game of whack a mole that never ends. I thank you for proposing that it does. Nice work.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 06, 2013 - 1:16 pm

    Morris, you are correct. We just do not seem to recognize Johns' gentle ways. We seem not to understand that, " In a recent attempt at rebutting my claim that the Teahadist Party is undemocratic and a creature of resurgent neo-fascism not seen since the heydays of the John Birch Society . . . ", is served up with Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along", love, dignity and respect. I for one am trying. But I have it easier than some. I'm not a Teahadist.

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  • VernNovember 08, 2013 - 2:23 pm

    Mark Smith: Writing letters to the editor in support of Republican ideas and candidates.

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  • James E.November 06, 2013 - 1:30 pm

    I was recruited by the John Birch Society in the 1960s. They must have thought I looked like a Republican? Yes, I declined and no, I don't want to join the current Tea Party either.

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  • Best keeped secret in EDC-VernNovember 08, 2013 - 8:43 am

    Colonel, I read today at the American Legion Hall next week the “Teahadist Party in the Hills” will have as their next guest speaker Sacramento’s Conservative Talk Radio Host Phill Cowan who will speak on the subject of “Thanksgiving.” Kind of like the last time McClintock was their speaker talking about veterans rights as he banged his hand on the podium and spoke of the conspiracy against America that President Obama represents. Is it possible that the American Legion is really the front for the Teahadist in the Hills? On a national level, could this be way the IRS is investigating the America Legion in Texas?

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 06, 2013 - 1:44 pm

    James, did they give you a free "Protocols"?

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  • MorrisNovember 06, 2013 - 2:08 pm

    Phil: I don't disagree with any of your comment. Both 'sides' could ratchet down a bit.

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  • James E.November 06, 2013 - 2:16 pm

    Phil, I told the John Birch Society representative, as I would tell the Tea Party today, no anal probes.

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  • James E.November 06, 2013 - 2:23 pm

    ADDED: And they also didn't give me a booklet on the rules of the John Birch Society. Didn't need to read their rules as they were total fruitcakes. And nothing cough, cough, changed today. And, no, I don't mean the physical exam cough, cough.

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  • cookie65November 08, 2013 - 4:12 am

    One of the reasons communist Russia gets less credit for the murderous hellhole is was is because by the time the west truly learned about it, it was decades later. It was much easier to ignore the injustices, the mass killing, the starvation and the methods which brought about those horrors because they were separated by time. People who have NEVER been exposed to the reality of it don't appreciate how it happened. Which is why so many in this country don't have any problem venturing down that road. In fact, they believe it will lead to some kind of utopia. I for one have a serious problem venturing down that road, and I make no secret of it.

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  • cookie65November 08, 2013 - 4:19 am

    The left is very selective in what information they wish to know about. If you cross a certain line with them they have a problem remaining the tolerant, open minded, compassionate, defenders of diversity and free speech. The California teachers pension deficit is growing by $22 million a day. This is one of those lines you are not supposed to cross. I have known and have been yelling for over a decade that the public pensions and union contracts were going to bankrupt this country. And for that I have been called every name you can think of, on many forums. I crossed the line. Regardless of the truth, they don't want to hear it and will attack anyone who exposes it. http://www.news10.net/news/article/262541/2/Teacher-pensions-deficit-grows-22-million-a-day

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 08, 2013 - 7:56 am

    Cookie, The California teachers pension deficit is like a cousin to PERS. Both are founded on a mix of equities and bonds. Ben Bernanke's QE 1,2,3,4, . . . . has pumped so much "money" into "existence" that PERS, The California teachers pension, and all union pension funds are "better off". And Janet Yellen is even "better" than Ben. I'm PERS. Thanks, Ben. Go, Janet, go! Sist boom baaa!!! In a few more years I'll be landphil. No problemo.

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  • cookie65November 08, 2013 - 9:07 am

    Phil, I assert and have for some time that the single reason behind the shovel-ready stimulus and the fed pumping billions and billions and billions into the market is/was to keep the public sector pensions afloat and the false notion of secure alive. At this point the leftist machine is so dependent on taxpayer funded public sector union money and votes they will bankrupt this country before they ever admit the Ponzi scheme has run its course. The briandead leftist lemmings actually believe the left is pro-union. Like everything else it is just part of their religion. But what do you suppose would happen if the unions started giving millions to the repubs? The lemmings would soon find out just how pro-union the left really is. Being a useful idiot is bliss.

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 08, 2013 - 7:59 am

    Great letter Mr. Smith particularly the last paragraph..oh but to dream it could go like that...working together and setting good examples...wow, I had a dream....

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  • EvelynNovember 08, 2013 - 8:11 am

    IS AMERICA BEING DELIBERATELY PUSHED TOWARD CIVIL WAR? - HERE

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  • EvelynNovember 08, 2013 - 8:14 am

    THE LEFT RIGHT PARADIGM IS OVER: IT'S YOU VS. CORPORATIONS - HERE: Consider this about the Bailouts: It was a right-winger who bailed out all of the big banks, Fannie Mae, and AIG in the first place; then his left winger successor continued to pour more money into the fire pit. What difference did the Left/Right dynamic make? Almost none whatsoever. How about government spending? The past two presidents are regarded as representative of the Left Right paradigm – yet they each spent excessively, sponsored unfunded tax cuts, plowed money into military adventures and ran enormous deficits. Does Left Right really make a difference when it comes to deficits and fiscal responsibility? (Apparently not).

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 09, 2013 - 8:30 am

    Hmm Evelyn, imagine that...ah perhaps the real problems will finally start being recognized...greed, power, money..

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  • 1036-FrankNovember 08, 2013 - 9:51 am

    Part of this should be boiled down to some basics, free speech is something many will disagree with on the left which has tried to restrict free speech with things like the "Fairness Doctrine" and many on the right will support their right to free speech and would never want to stop the free flowing opinion of people with whom they disagree. People can choose to ignore opinion they disagree with, however free speech is a founding principle and is the First Amendment for a reason, in order of importance. I disagree with Mr. Smith's statement about an indicted Supervisor using an editorial opinion piece to address the public which may serve on a jury for his trial which was the point of Deberry's letter. The risk of tainting the jury pool in a small county like this. People don't mind if the Supervisor writes his opinions in a letter as a citizen as any citizen could and the paper could choose to print it or not, however the opinion piece is viewed differently, not often has an indicted politician used an opinion piece, certainly not any other Supervisor facing serious charges in the history of this county. Now a bigger question should be if an indicted politician, who has been arrested for serious crimes, should be allowed to remain in a position of public trust and continue to vote on matters of public trust while facing these charges Kind of like if your tax preparer/CPA was arrested for embezzlement and was out on bail, would you want them managing your money after that? To protect people, any politician arrested for felony crimes should be required to take a leave of absence at the minimum followed by a resignation if the charges are still valid after their leave. There is a very close case to Nutting's now in Sac County called the Cortez Quinn case, and Mr. Quinn was an elected official who was just arrested for felony crimes and has taken a leave of absence and there are many people calling for his resignation, several of the charges are the same charges as Nutting faces relating to failure to disclose income on 700 forms and receiving personal loans as an elected official from an employee. Mr. Quinn, was also fined by the FPPC, as was Nutting.

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  • PattyNovember 10, 2013 - 9:14 am

    mark, if u want people to really take your letter to heart bring up examples of hatred spewing from both sides of politics, otherwise you sound like a hypocrite. (a word I think the right is unfamiliar with)

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 10, 2013 - 9:39 am

    Patty, regarding" " . . . hypocrite. (a word I think the right is unfamiliar with)" Is it possible that your perception "feeling" of hypocrisy flowing from the right is rooted in the tendency within the "right" to identify with high standards for honesty, integrity and ethics while falling short of said goals? If that is the case then I would argue that the gap between reality and goal ought not be called hypocrisy. A narrowing of that gap is called progress. And if one strives to narrow that gap might he not be called "progressive"?

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 10, 2013 - 11:55 am

    James, my mangled writing has conveyed to you the misimpression that the I believe the "right" has "attained" " high standards for honesty, integrity and ethics". They have not. The "left" points to the gap on the "right" between goal and reality and calls it hypocrisy. The left avoids this problem through moral relativism and continues defining deviancy down. . . . or as Bork put it LINK - Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline

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  • EvelynNovember 10, 2013 - 12:08 pm

    The problem with calling people hypocrite/liar/ignorant, etc., is that it shuts down any possibility of useful exchange, constitutes no real information-sharing, and serves to harden positions, problems thereby becoming intractable. I KNOW (!!!) that the temptation is great, sometimes (virtually) irresistible, but no matter how good it feels, the payoff is negative.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 10, 2013 - 12:11 pm

    Miss Evelyn...I seem to have a harder time when people say..".youre just a sweet person--arent you." My whole day is ruined after that...lolololol

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  • EvelynNovember 10, 2013 - 12:14 pm

    Fran: I don't think I've ever said you were "sweet"! But you sure as heck are great to have around.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 10, 2013 - 12:18 pm

    "Lead by example, making your letters positive, informative, truthful, and sincere." If I followed by by example--I would be lying to a community...having meetings in secret...and using the Delphi technique to bring them over to my side. Just cant do that...so I have to be blunt...honest...and loud--just works better for me. Plus that way I get people coming up to me to say hello...well maybe not "hello" as much as--you should know 99% percent of the town thinks your a PITA...lololol is that 9.9 people out of ten people? Or 99 out of a hundred people--I want to see the survey.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 10, 2013 - 12:19 pm

    Thank you Miss Evelyn.

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 10, 2013 - 12:30 pm

    I agree Evelyn, the same about yourself also :)

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