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Climate change agenda continues unabated

From page A1 | January 31, 2014 | 97 Comments

Editor’s note — This is the first of two parts on government regulation and climate change.

Government at the state and federal level, in conjunction with the United Nations, continues to press ahead with the agenda that man-made climate change/global warming justifies more regulations, lots more taxes and a generous dollop of guilt for good measure.

This despite a recent study indicating that global temperatures have actually been declining and that for decade-long periods between 950 AD and 1250 AD — long before the Industrial Revolution and the widespread use of fossil fuels — large parts of the world were as warm or warmer than they are now. According to some measurements, there is now more CO2 in the atmosphere than at any time in the past 15 million years. At the same time, since the advent of the Industrial Revolution, the average global temperature has risen by, at most, 1.6 degrees Fahrenheit — not exactly a heat wave.

Even the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the primary proponent of the man-made global warming agenda, has admitted in a recent report that its computer models exaggerated the effect of increased carbon emissions on world temperatures:

The IPCC also conceded there has been no significant warming since 1998 even as it reported a 7 percent rise in carbon dioxide (CO2), thus undercutting its own argument that CO2 results in global warming.

The IPCC’s predictions of a decline in Antarctic sea ice turned out to be wrong as the ice cap has grown to a record high, so high that a recent Australian ship expedition researching the effects of global warming became stuck in the ice. A Chinese ship sent to help also became ice-bound. An American ice breaker was enlisted to rescue both. NASA satellite data put the temperature in East Antarctica at 135.8 degrees below zero Fahrenheit in December. Eventually the ice pack shifted and both ships were freed on their own.

Forecasts that hurricanes would become more intense were also dropped from the IPCC report as the U.S. has experienced almost eight years without a single hurricane of Category 3 or above making landfall.

Despite the failure of their climate models to accurately predict anything, the IPCC report went on to claim that, “It is extremely likely that human influence on climate caused more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951–2010.”

Commenting on this latest turn of affairs, MIT climate scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen, who is one of the lead authors of a previous IPCC report on climate change and a critic of IPCC’s work said, “The latest IPCC report has truly sunk to a level of hilarious incoherence.

“They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase. In attributing warming to man, they fail to point out that the warming has been small, and totally consistent with there being nothing to be alarmed about.

“Global climate alarmism has been costly to society, and it has the potential to be vastly more costly,” Lindzen continued. “It also has been damaging to science, as scientists adjust both data and even theory to accommodate politically correct positions. How can one escape from the Iron Triangle (ambiguous statements from scientists translated into alarmism by advocates and the media, with politicians responding by feeding the scientists taxpayer money) when it produces flawed science that is enormously influential and is forcing catastrophic public policy?”

Peter Ferrara, an American lawyer who is the current general counsel for the ACLU and a policy analyst for the Heartland Institute, had even harsher criticism for the latest IPCC report. (The Heartland Institute’s response to the IPCC report can be seen at

In an editorial in Forbes, Ferrara called the entire manmade global warming movement a fraud that “is embraced not because of any ‘science,’ but because it is a justification for a government takeover of the energy industry, with massive increases in regulation, taxes and government spending,” he said.

“The United Nations loves it because it inspires fantasies of the U.N. growing up to be a world government, with real government powers of global taxation, spending and regulation, all ‘to save the planet.’”

Ferrara went on to criticize the scientists involved with the cause who, “are rewarded not only with praise for their worthy social conscience, but also with altogether billions in hard, cold cash (government and environmental grants), for their cooperation in helping to play the ‘useful idiots.’ Moreover, many academic scientists are ‘progressives’ themselves, and so favor sharp increases in government spending, taxes and regulation, because they are certain they know how to run your life better than you do.”

However, despite all these setbacks, the state of California, the Obama administration and the U.N. continue to push ahead in their crusade based on their predictions of climate change calamities.

Tilting at windmills

At the federal level, the Obama administration is using climate change to set spending and policy priorities.

In his State of the Union Address Tuesday President Obama said, “But we have to act with more urgency — because a changing climate is already harming Western communities struggling with drought, and coastal cities dealing with floods.”

According to a report submitted to the United Nations, American taxpayers ponied up $7.45 billion to help developing countries cope with climate change in fiscal years 2010 through 2012. This at a time when $2 trillion in infrastructure improvements are needed in this country.

Last November, President Obama also signed an executive order establishing a Council on Climate Preparedness and Resilience that some worry could end up dramatically expanding the ability of the government to restrict Americans’ use of their property, water and energy in order to reduce so-called “greenhouse gas emissions.”

According to the White House, “The Council will work across agencies, and in partnership with the newly established State, Local, and Tribal Leaders Task Force on Climate Preparedness and Resilience, to coordinate and expand the federal government’s work to support communities in building climate change preparedness.”

A variety of federal agencies will be a part of this task force, including the departments of Defense; Interior; Agriculture; Homeland Security; Health and Human Services; Energy; Housing and Urban Development; Education; and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

Doing its part, the Department of Education’s new science teaching standards in the United States will include extensive lessons on human-made climate change that will be incorporated into teaching standards in up to 40 states.

According to the Department of Education’s Next Generation Science Standards, pupils will be given to understand that “human activities, such as the release of greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels, are major factors in the current rise in Earth’s mean surface temperature (global warming) … The Earth’s climate is changing, and people’s activities are the main cause.”

The EPA is also preparing to issue more new regulations intent on putting out of business existing coal-fired power plants and effectively freezing construction of new coal-fired plants.

According to a report in the Daily Caller, hundreds of coal plants have been closed or slated for early retirement due to these regulations. EPA regulations have already contributed to the closure of more than 300 coal units in 33 states.

At the same time, it was announced that the Obama administration was about to approve a rule that will ensure that hundreds of thousands of birds — including eagles —  would continue to die flying into the turbine blades of wind farms.

Referred to as bird “Cuisinarts” because of the carnage they inflict, the new rule would give wind farms 30-year permits for the non-purposeful taking of eagles — that is, where the take is associated with the purpose of the activity.

According to one peer-reviewed study, wind power generates only 3 percent of U.S. electricity, but kills 573,000 birds and 888,000 bats each year.

The EPA is also working on a rule that would expand the definition of “waters of the U.S.” under the Clean Water Act to include water on private property.

In response, Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas said, “The EPA’s draft water rule is a massive power grab of private property across the U.S. This could be the largest expansion of EPA regulatory authority ever. If the draft rule is approved, it would allow the EPA to regulate virtually every body of water in the United States, including private and public lakes, ponds and streams.”

In all, the EPA is currently crafting 134 major and minor regulations covering energy and the environment that will be another drag on the economy and cost more jobs.

Contact Dawn Hodson at 530-344-5071 or Follow @DHodsonMtDemo on Twitter.


Discussion | 97 comments

  • EvelynJanuary 31, 2014 - 7:11 am

    Thank you, Dawn.

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  • cookie65January 31, 2014 - 7:30 am

    History will record the global warming fraud as the single greatest transfer of wealth and centralized power in all of human history. Pure genius in its criminality.

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  • Jeff ScottJanuary 31, 2014 - 11:22 am

    Cookie, I think you mean the removal of all banking regulations by the Bush Corporation. Oops! I meant the Bush Administration. Do you remember 2008 or was that too long ago? Pure genius in its criminality.

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  • cookie65January 31, 2014 - 4:43 pm

    At least attempt to be original... I can repeat all the stuff you have been trained to believe better than you. Pavlov's dog. Who had been in control of congress for 2 years by 2008? But now that the empty suit is in charge everything is congress' fault. Basic math dipstick. Since 2006 the leftist/communist/progressive/Marxists have controlled a minimum of 2 of the 3 (house, senate, whitehouse) and all 3 for two of those 7 years. Grow a brain. Or at least figure out how to use the one you were given.

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  • JimBoJanuary 31, 2014 - 10:56 am

    Our Board of Supervisors should be ashamed of themselves for blindly joining this Global Warming Scam at January 7, 2014 BOS meeting. Further, they should be even more ashamed that they refused to let the public debate the agenda item. Like beggers with their hands out, the Board rationalized that the State might give them a few trinket handouts, in exchange for this poorly crafted legislation causing energy rates to skyrocket and businesses to close due to increase regulation. CalEPA/CARB’s Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006 creates a regulatory environment predicated upon bad fabricated science that puts manufacturing, trucking and construction companies out of business due to the high retrofit/replacement cost of perfectly fine heavy construction equipment. If you are a contractor, you don’t sleep at night living in fear that some heavy handed socialist bureaucrat with a half-baked mindset brings an accusation against you to fine you hundreds of thousands of dollars and put you out of business. Your current BOS acts like a bunch of self-serving, entrenched bureaucrats rather than the protectors of the voters, their constituents and the local economy.

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  • JimBoJanuary 31, 2014 - 10:57 am

    Read more about all the CARB Global Warming Fraud at

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  • Dink LaneJanuary 31, 2014 - 12:01 pm

    Any REAL business impacted by the weather -- Already ACKNOWLEDGE that the climate has changed..... Go to Farm Bureau and Water Conferences.... They have plans and strategies laid out.... The corporations have spent Millions of $$$ on adapting...... and Dawn and Larry compare notes from the ALEC / KOCH BROTHERS / CATO INSTITUTE propaganda sheet....... and spill out miss information...... Anyone with actual skin-in-the-game..... Doesn't buy this article's Cr@$....

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  • cookie65February 01, 2014 - 5:13 am

    dinky, are you just now figuring out our climate is in continual change? Long before ALEC / KOCH BROTHERS / CATO took over the climate causing you sleepless nights. You speak of "adaption" as if it were something new to life on this planet. Please tell me you're not really that ignorant. ALEC / KOCH BROTHERS / CATO is not science, it is useless groupthink talking points. Emotion is not science. The sky is not falling dink. I find it fascinating how worked up some get over a non-event like the global warming fraud and not the slightest bit concerned over the $17 trillion in debt. Living a life of delusion.

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  • Dink LaneFebruary 01, 2014 - 4:28 pm

    Cookie: Check your #s.... 17 Trillion??? You need to turn the TV off and read some facts...

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  • concernedJanuary 31, 2014 - 3:53 pm

    Cookie Do you have a life? Besides of course knowing everything about everything. Personally I find you very rude and angry and enjoy belittling and demeaning people all in the name of politics. There is a psychological term for it yet it escapes me now. Your namecalling and way of speaking to people is exactly what this world does'nt need. Thank goodness there are not too many of you walking around although reading these posts there are enough. I wish more people would choose to see the good in people debate all you want but leave out idiot, moron, braindead, piece of sh%t, libtard, turd, assh&%#, etc. etc. Are you an addict? Because your behaviour can be a sighn of addiction. Or maybe just a narcist. I don't know but it is disturbing.

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  • cookie65January 31, 2014 - 4:47 pm

    There is truly one term that describes anyone who cannot debate the global warming fraud but believes it anyway..... LEMMING

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  • concernedJanuary 31, 2014 - 3:55 pm


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  • PatriceFebruary 01, 2014 - 7:14 pm

    To a narcissist, it doesn't matter to them that they are a narcissist.....still always right no matter the logic.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 5:13 am

    4, I could loan you a few brain cells, but I am actually using mine. Perhaps you could borrow some from dinky, he isn't using his. You two could call it brain cell inequality.

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  • MartinJanuary 31, 2014 - 4:28 pm

    It is time that we take away the right of special interest, they are not government law makers they are nothing more than money mongering Agenda 21 procurement agency’s, if you want to build a commercial building you have to purchase 3 times the property (off-site mitigation) somewhere else to compensates the damage that you are doing to the environment. This isn’t something that is cheap it is something that costing us our ownership of our lands. The funny part is that they are not giving you a piece of property just setting it asside. In order to use any land now in America, Agenda 21 "sustainability" mandates require what is referred to as "off-site mitigation"; where ANY plant or animal species that may be impacted in ANY way by the proposed land use must be studied (Biological Study; truly "BS"). The Study format is rigged to always arrive at the same pre-determined conclusion: land must be set aside somewhere else in order to create and/or maintain the habitat of the impacted plants or animals All of the above is nothing more than a way to take our lands from us and implement the Agenda 21 initiative.

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  • is this a news story or an op-ed piece?January 31, 2014 - 4:33 pm

    Here is an interesting article on Dawn's expert. After a quick review of the IPCC report the over riding theme seems to be the average global temperature is rising. Dawn seems quite consistent in her reporting, cherry pick one or two facts from a large report ignoring the larger conclusion and of course cite an expert who has a rather dubious reputation.

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  • cookie65January 31, 2014 - 4:50 pm

    Let me know when the millions of acres of frozen vegetation (permafrost) thaws out.

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  • Is this news or an op-ed piece?January 31, 2014 - 5:42 pm

    Just did a quick google search for "permafrost" and the theme of every article, page after page was permafrost is melting. So to be fair I googled "permafrost melting myth" and then "permafrost melting hoax" Both searches yielded a few articles saying there is essentially nothing wrong, but those were intermingled by an overwhelming number of articles to the contrary. When I have time over the weekend I will read articles on both sides of the issue. But it is looking like your contention all is well when it comes to the world's permafrost is kinda dicey.

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  • cookie65January 31, 2014 - 6:31 pm

    Do you understand why it is frozen vegetation? The key word is vegetation. It was warm enough in prior time periods for it to be vegetation. What does that mean? It means it could be a lot warmer on this planet like it has in the past. They have been claiming the permafrost thawing out since the day after they abandoned the coming ice age theory. Let me know when we can grow crops in Greenland the way the Vikings did.. You just don't get it. Global warming is what happens in between ice ages. Quit being afraid of the condition that allows life to flourish. Man you people are dense.

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  • cookie65February 01, 2014 - 4:59 am

    Here is an example of what you will get from google. When you read this it is meant to cause you to "feel" not think. The theory being passed along here was once coined the Catch 22 of runaway global warming. The melting permafrost would release tons of trapped green house gases. This theory was put to the test many years ago when they built some green houses to measure the gases release in when the permafrost melted. What they discovered that politically motivated sources like this won't tell you is the gases that were released were quickly consumed by the new growth from the thawed ground. So what they ended up with was an increase in oxygen thru photosynthesis. All of the trapped green house gases have been in the atmosphere before. So why does life still exist? Because they are essential to life, not detrimental to it. Quit being useful to a fraud and think!!!

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  • Is this a news story or an op-ed piece?February 01, 2014 - 7:51 am

    Thank you, let me share what I found. Permafrost is soil that has been frozen for more than two years, not frozen vegetation. Because one of the components of soil is organic, the world's permafrost contains vast amounts of CO2. Since frozen soil and unfrozen soil are both solid, permafrost does not melt, it thaws. I had never really considered the difference between melting and thawing. There are three positions on the thawing of permafrost. First, pure myth, permafrost is not thawing, any loss from thawing is replaced by newly formed permafrost. It did not seem that this school of thought has much if any support from the scientific community. Second, the world's level of permafrost is shrinking as the result of thawing, but this is part of the natural cycle of warming and then cooling the world has experienced over geological time. This position has very little support amongst the scientific community, the figure I saw quoted was 3%. The third position is that the world's permafrost is being lost at a rate higher than can be explained naturally occurring warming. The cause for this higher expected rate of loss and the resulting consequences is highly debated. Both sides of the argument agree the release of CO2 from the thawing permafrost does result in higher levels of CO2 and these spikes do dissipate quickly, geologically speaking. The question is how much danger do this spike pose. I took this to be like walking into your closed garage and finding your car running. Of course you shut off the engine and open the doors to air out the garage, but you don't stay in the garage waiting for it to air out, you come back later. The concern about the warming of the world's climate is not just the increase of the average world temperature, also increasing of the variability in temperatures more extreme lows and highs and additionally the distribution of temperatures is becoming more uniform ( less concentrated about the average) thus making the world's weather more volatile.

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  • MartinFebruary 01, 2014 - 8:04 am

    This really is a bight in the butt, just think because of all the C02 we are going to have to live in a lusher warm green planet. I guess that we are going to have to except the fact that the earth really doesn’t care what we want it is going to do what it does best; (Survive)

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  • cookie65February 01, 2014 - 10:10 am

    The claim that the planet's weather will become "more volatile" is paramount to changing the doom from global warming to climate change. It allows for any and all events to blamed on man's activities. I would like to know what is considered "volatile". Would a glacier carving out 3,000 ft of solid rock be considered volatile? Yosemite. Would a glacier creating the largest single mass of fresh water on the planet be considered volatile? The great lakes. Would a massive erosion event be considered volatile? The grand canyon. Would the disappearance of huge inland oceans be considered volatile? The entire state of Nevada. To my knowledge man wasn't guilty of creating climate change/global warming when any of these events occurred.

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  • Is this a news story or an op-ed piece?February 01, 2014 - 10:53 am

    Just because man was not around so many ions ago when weather shaped the earth does not mean that in present day man has no impact on the forces shaping the earth currently. I would say that a claim that man is solely responsible for observed global climate change is as equally irresponsible as claiming man has zero impact on current climate change.

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  • cookie65February 01, 2014 - 1:05 pm

    So let me get this straight. The earth's climate has changed thousand's of times over the last 4.6 billion years. Dramatic effects have been recorded physically all over the planet, man had nothing to do with it but any of those things occur today and man is likely the cause, with 95% certainty? How insane is that proposition?

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  • MartinFebruary 01, 2014 - 1:23 pm

    Cookie the only people that don't realized that we are being taken are the ones that have no common sense.

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  • cookie65February 01, 2014 - 4:24 pm

    Martin, I believe they all know they have been taken for the proverbial ride but none of them have the intellectual honesty to admit it. I also believe if they get pounded over the head with it repeatedly as often as possible they can eventually be shamed into admission. I am like "enhanced interrogation" to them.

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  • rodFebruary 01, 2014 - 10:10 pm

    The "guardian" is England's analog to our MSNBC, pure liberal tripe.

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  • cookie65January 31, 2014 - 6:23 pm

    This is for dinky.

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  • James E.January 31, 2014 - 6:39 pm

    Cookie, they can either work as enrollment counselors or they can earn a living by robbing you. Your choice.

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  • cookie65February 01, 2014 - 7:05 am

    James, I came across this in my travels around the net....~~ "My premiums went from 118.00 every two weeks, to w, 151.00 every two weeks last year. This year we transitioned to a HSA, and my employer donated 1500.00 for the year. My premiums went to 335.00 every two weeks, with a deductible of 2600.00 for both of us. I went to the pharmacy for the first time in January. My normal 10.00 co-pay no longer exists. For my first prescription, a duragesic patch, my payment was 105.00 for one month. This was just one of my prescriptions. My second one was 17.00. I asked the pharmacist why the payments were so different, and I was informed I had a 2700.00 deductible, and my cost was the "negotiated rate" . I called the prescription company today. I was advised that this deductible was separate from my medical coverage. In total, my benefits deductibles are 2600.00 for medical and 2700.00 for pharmacy, yes that´s right. 5300.00 deductible total, a year. Between the deductibles and premiums, this cost is almost half of my entire yearly income. I would be better off quitting, and going on government disability and benefits. I refuse to do so. I think this is entirely by design, to break the backs of middle class and to drive them to do exactly that. Now, I find I may have cancer. It will likely be best for me to forego treatment, I see no way possible to afford this if I do have cancer. Between the premiums, and the out of pocket expenses, this will leave us financially destitute. The weight of that decision is now on my shoulders. No person should ever be forced to make that decision." ~~~ I wonder how many thousand's of people are facing a similar situation.

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  • PatriceFebruary 01, 2014 - 7:11 pm

    In your selective travels you will believe only the negative to match your overall attitude toward your life in the USA.

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  • (faux)Cookie65February 02, 2014 - 4:58 am

    4, are you related to the Ostrich? 4, are you related to the Ostrich? HERE

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 5:00 am

    @4:58 am, originally by Cookie65 (not faux!), replaced by Evelyn as "(faux) Cookie65) with hotlink.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 5:03 am

    Cookie: Apologies for taking the liberty, but the original link had run the page to somewhere out of town!

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 5:10 am

    Oh, dear. Bad editing, Evelyn!!! Cookie's original did not twice contain "4, are you related to the Ostrich?" I should not have meddled, but am now too lazy to repeat the entire sequence.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 5:22 am

    Eve!yn, how did you do that? I love those links. I posted one on fencepost once that was at least a full page long. I titled it the new pResidential seal. It was a picture of the plaque entering Disney land. The one that reads: "Here you leave today and enter the world of yesterday, tomorrow and fantasy." They were all to terrified to click on it.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 8:32 am

    Cookie: As for "how I did that", easy to demonstrate if we were sitting side by side. Though the ether, slightly more difficult, but I'm willing to give it a bash. (1) I use BOLD when leaving links ONLY to ensure visibility. But otherwise, BOLD is not necessary. Instructions for BOLD HERE. Go to the first line: HTML Code: and the instructions in the shaded box. IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE PAGE. ********** (2) "HTML Link Syntax" will be in the next comment. This is the real answer to "how do you do that".

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 8:47 am

    Cont'd: (2) HERE - go down to "HTML Link Syntax - The HTML code for a link is simple. It looks like this:" The pink shaded box shows EXACTLY how it must be done. The format is unforgiving of typos. "Close enough" won't do!!! ********** IF you decide to make your text BOLD, the necessary formatting (1. above) IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDS THE TEXT itself, which is encased in the Link Syntax.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 9:01 am

    Notes taken and links flagged. I will get schooled in the process. How did you replace my original post?

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 5:28 am

    No apologizes necessary. Did you like the picture?

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  • Robert D NollFebruary 01, 2014 - 4:22 am

    National Geographic,February 2014

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  • Dee#1February 01, 2014 - 9:53 am

    I recently read that climate change was causing the poles to flip. I guess it has never happened before. Oh, it has happened before, numerous times. I wonder if the poles flipping could possibly change weather patterns. Here is an interesting article from NASA.-----

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  • EvelynFebruary 01, 2014 - 12:01 pm

    Dee#1: Does the mainstream media EVER carry anything about polar shift? We could be soaked to the gills with carbon taxes, to no avail. THIS article from late last year reads: POLE SHIFT: IT HAS STARTED... (Thank you very much for interjecting this into the conversation, Dee.)

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  • MartinFebruary 01, 2014 - 12:47 pm

    Earths magnetic flip take about 5000 year to complete; the sun’s magnetic field is expected to flip in the next three to four months and it could lead to changes in our climate. This solar event only happens once every 11 years and signals what physicists call the Solar Maximum; a time when the Sun's solar activity is at its highest. During this peak in activity the outbursts of solar energy can increase the amount of cosmic and UV rays coming towards Earth and this can interfere with radio communications, cause solar bursts of light known as flares and can affect the planet's temperature. Don’t be surprised when global warming alarmists exploit extreme weather events that are attributable to natural causes and blame them on human CO2 emissions while assuring that the only solution is to pay Al Gore and his globalist cronies billions of dollars in carbon taxes.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 01, 2014 - 1:09 pm

    Martin, it's already happened. ~~~ LINK - Sometime in the last couple months, the sun's north and south poles completed a swap of negative and positive charges, said Todd Hoeksema, a solar physicist and director of Stanford University 's Wilcox Solar Observatory, which has tracked the sun's magnetic field since 1976. ~~~ UNRELATED WEATHR CHANGE? ~~~~> CHANCE OF RAIN - Feb 8th - 30%, Feb 9th - 70%, Feb 10th - 90% ~~~ Or did R. J. Carter go outside, throw his hands to the sky and command RobertDNoll to lighten up?

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  • EvelynFebruary 01, 2014 - 1:35 pm

    The perfect SCAM: Tax them for the sun's rising . . . or, maybe volcanoes . . . or hurricanes. Just call it . . . MAN MADE.

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  • Jim RiordanFebruary 01, 2014 - 10:58 am

    I am surprised that no one has brought up that, right now, China appears to be the number one contributor of smog and airborne pollutants in the world. Japan is perhaps the greatest contributor of radioactive pollutants. Yet, the POS UN is still headquartered here. How about some real pressure on the real worst polluters, huh UN? Sure would be fun to move the UN offices to Beijing and Fuk-u-shima.

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  • Anti-eFebruary 01, 2014 - 11:49 am

    Removing the UN would remove all the job stoppers and give our land back to us. Great idea just get rid of the money pit.

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  • Dee#1February 01, 2014 - 1:49 pm

    The climate change scam is designed to eliminate cheap energy and force poverty on the middle and under classes. It is akin to sacrificing virgins to the volcanoes to stop their eruptions.

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  • EvelynFebruary 01, 2014 - 4:48 pm

    Dink: Are you still there? Real FACTS -- "U.S. National Debt Over $17 Trillion" - HERE ********** Dink, turn off the propaganda machine that's in your head and get some REAL FACTS. Some things can be checked. Easily.

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  • EvelynFebruary 01, 2014 - 4:51 pm

    U.S. Debt Clock: HERE

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 4:19 am

    Well done Eve!yn!!! I detect a little frustration in your tone. It is like talking to a wall isn't it?

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  • EvelynFebruary 01, 2014 - 4:56 pm

    October 18, 2013: U.S. debt jumps a record $328 billion — tops $17 trillion for first time - HERE

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  • T69807February 01, 2014 - 8:23 pm

    Fortunately, the percentage of Americans that think AGW is important is steadily declining. The most recent annual Pew poll of Americans' priorities found that AGW is in the bottom half of the list, right after "Strengthening the United Nations." Maybe that's because environmentalists have yet to come up with a workable plan to stop AGW. Or because, even if they did, no democracy in the world would adopt the crippling changes to trade, commerce, and human activity that environmentalist true believers demand.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 5:57 am

    Someone has written on the subject I have been screaming about for 20 years. 4, you shouldn't read this, just keep your head buried in the sand.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 7:31 am

    4, I realize you don't actually have your head buried in the sand. Unless you have sand in your britches. Have you found out whether or not ocommycare covers a glass belly button so you can see where you are going?

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 7:24 am

    The tolerant left never fails to live up to all of my expectations. A mental disease.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 7:41 am

    Where has the ant-war left vaporized to? Without the leftists mindmeld machine telling what to do and what to think they are hopelessly lost.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 7:59 am

    This is off the charts amazing.

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  • Phil VeerkampFebruary 02, 2014 - 8:11 am

    Cookie, here's more material for Dawn Hodson to investigate ~~~> LINK - Southern Snowstorm - geo-engineering??? . . . hmmmm????

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 8:44 am

    That is hilarious Phil, I have a relative in Atlanta, it was a mess down there. The global warming fraudsters would have less embarrassment if they could only get the weather to cooperate. Since they can't depend on the weather to cooperate with their sham/fraud they are dependent on useful idiots which there is no shortage of.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 8:35 am

    Can't wait 'til the tyrannical left figures out how to confiscate people's money over this.

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 8:52 am

    Or...y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶script d̶o̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶ I take the lazy way out at times :)

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 8:58 am

    Fran: Are you saying that this will work for creating LINKS?

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 8:56 am

    The last thing in the world these leftist propagandists want is to be called out on their bootlicking adoration of the obama regime.

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  • JimBoFebruary 02, 2014 - 8:59 am

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:00 am

    no. Miss evelyn...if you write in their box...then copy and paste unto the post :) Is doesnt tell how everything works--most people are not as curious as you. You my friend have a wicked mind.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:03 am

    So it's WICKED now --- high praise so early in the morning!!!

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:03 am

    If anything--it is an interesting site to play with type...ignore the silly and advance to the more serious tiny scripts.

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:07 am

    It also has quick directions to make your own key board layout using the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator 1.4 It is not our world anymore when it comes to typing...this program allows you to reconfigure the keys or special symbols where you want them. My daughter is fast on a keyboard...but she does not type by the work she has two screens up...and works quickly at both...she said she would like to have four shrugging shoulders. Kids.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 9:34 am

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:09 am

    Yes have a great morning :)

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:12 am

    Jimbo your vid was...sad. Realistic--but so sad.

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  • R.J. CarterFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:16 am

    GO BRONCOS!!!!!......

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:26 am

    . . . I don't know who the other team is, RJ, but that's who I want!!!

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:28 am

    S E A H A W K S

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  • Thank you ObamaFebruary 02, 2014 - 9:48 am

    Cookie So sorry to hear about your healthcare woes. I on the other hand have positive news on my end. I have a husband who has never been able to get a secondary insurance because of a pre-existing condition. As you know medicare does not cover 100%. With all his hospital stays we have had to file bankruptcy and basically lost all. We are starting over now (kind of late in life). But we are full of hope now that we are able to get a secondary insurance. I wonder how many other thousands of people have had this happen over the years.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 10:48 am

    Thank you empty suit, they weren't my woes. They are woes being shared by thousands and thousands of our fellow American citizens. The pre-existing condition fix was the worm the left used to bait the hook with in order to take over healthcare. Pre-existing conditions could have been changed with a one sentence piece of legislation any time during the last 30 years. As you know there is no such thing as a pre-existing condition clause in any public sector union healthcare plan. Tell me why that is? I am happy for your husband but not happy for the millions who have been booted from the healthcare plans they were more than satisfied with. I don't understand how anyone could be. Our government has obliterated all constitutional limitations with ocommycare.

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 10:02 am

    Cookie :) when I first became a gamer (really a low level one compared to others I play with) I had to learn how to talk the talk through symbols...I had to justify in my mind-- why using this symbol "@" was faster than typing "at" <--which I have yet to do. It was then that I realized what I had read was true--programmers and hackers were changing the language. and the young had accepted it and were flying with it. They could now write by sound..where teachers had marked their spelling wrong--it was now okay. they had an "in" to their own language. I remember in a class I was teaching someone wrote LOL on the I asked the 8th grader why? (years and years ago) It was so interesting... the rest of the class time I allowed student s to go up on the board on write using their "new" language. They can "speak" text as well--if they want. We had pig latin as a kid..we were sure adults didnt know it--it was our " secret language." But this generation with the brilliance of these computer "geeks." have soared. tbt...the world is a very different place. but if I put a hashtag in front of "tbt"--it becomes #TBT--throw back thursday ( showing something from the past) I barely know english...and dont have time to learn a "new" language...but before our eyes a one world language has been created by the techs teaching the start to the young.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 10:59 am

    Communication is like the weather.. in a constant state of change. Somehow or another I was lucky enough in my youth to be exposed to the importance of communication and the advantages that come from having even the slightest mastery of it. Gaming has its own language. Like texting. Either you are in or you are out. Thankfully I have my kids who are walking encyclopedias of it.

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  • LJ 1964February 02, 2014 - 5:31 pm

    To Fran and some others--it seems that each time you get into these blogs and debates you can't stay on subject. Please consider what the intent of the comment chain was and not your own personal minds trips. It's completely impossible to follow you and you ruin good conversation.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieFebruary 02, 2014 - 7:26 pm

    LJ -- welcome to the senior version of the electronic babysitter.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 8:02 pm

    It's a large crib, Kirk. Room for plenty more of us.

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  • Empty suitFebruary 02, 2014 - 5:40 pm

    Yes you are right the pre existing law could have been changed but it wasn't unfortunately. As far as ocommycare wouldn't it have been great if the public option was never taken off the table ? Wouldn't it be great if it was government healthcare for all and we never had to deal with those nasty corrupt insurance companies? We can only hope Hillary will set us straight. .?.

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  • cookie65February 02, 2014 - 6:42 pm

    Didn't get burned enough by hope and change? Still gonna vote for symbolism.

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  • PatriceFebruary 02, 2014 - 7:10 pm

    Empty suit, public option would have been great. Yes, Hillary isn't as even tempered or have the need to be liked like President Obama. She will not be as tolerant and will kick some butts around.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 7:09 pm

    LJ 1964: You're not the 1st person to get frustrated. Last September the Mt.Dem. published an LTE which you can find HERE. The author asked for a modicum of discipline. In the end, there were 3,206 comments. One or two of the comments, however, DID stray from the theme. We're not a bad lot -- just occasionally distracted.

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 7:11 pm

    At the time we a re talking we are talking to each we understand. It is like five people at a table....and you are sitting wayyy over there...either join us...or stop eavesdropping :( Dont read our posts if you dont like them.

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  • EvelynFebruary 02, 2014 - 7:20 pm

    Fran is right. Some of us have been around since before the Mt. Dem. was the Mt.Dem. In our time it was the Mt. Republican. We know each other and often respond to whatever comes up. (See how off topic conversations begin?)

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 7:28 pm

    I wonder why it copied twice in one sentence? the mystery of it all. Well, I worked the wagon...and as predicted everyone was at the I finished my book...and started another one. Phil should I start stocking up on drinking water? In LA--Ive lived through the "toilet paper" scare....and the vanilla ice cream scare ...and the candle scare. Hint: when all other candles are bought up...wait--email me for the answer :) shopping at the store was nice--not a soul there while the game was on.

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  • Fran DuchampFebruary 02, 2014 - 7:32 pm

    Kirk And imagine youre here right alongside of us...dont you feel warm and fuzzy now. Im not a senior soon as I get close--they move the marker.

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  • EvelynFebruary 22, 2014 - 10:49 am

    MICHAEL MANN FACES BANKRUPTCY AS HIS COURTROOM CLIMATE CAPERS COLLAPSE - HERE: But was the "evidence" for global warming intentionally and illegally concocted? By their persistence in hiding their data we may think so, as far as Mann and Weaver are concerned; while Dr Ball's latest sensational book,''The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science;' detailing the Climategate shenanigans, is a 'must read' as to culpability. But only a full criminal investigation will be determinative of all that. The question now is, will the U.S. and Canadian governmental authorities have the stomach to delve deeper?

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