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	<title>Comments on: Coordination: More than just a 12-letter word</title>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny how everyone ignores what is happening these days. It&#039;s like there is too much information and we just all don&#039;t have enough time to process it all, so we can&#039;t take lessons from even the small stuff anymore. If we tried to read everything that was published every day we couldn&#039;t even do that. Like this massive Cornell clinical study that benefits Chromadex (CDXC) that no investor knows about.
http://weill.cornell.edu/news/releases/wcmc/wcmc_2012/06_14_12-2.shtml]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how everyone ignores what is happening these days. It&#8217;s like there is too much information and we just all don&#8217;t have enough time to process it all, so we can&#8217;t take lessons from even the small stuff anymore. If we tried to read everything that was published every day we couldn&#8217;t even do that. Like this massive Cornell clinical study that benefits Chromadex (CDXC) that no investor knows about.<br />
<a href="http://weill.cornell.edu/news/releases/wcmc/wcmc_2012/06_14_12-2.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://weill.cornell.edu/news/releases/wcmc/wcmc_2012/06_14_12-2.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Roffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Roffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps some skepticism is warranted, therefore understandable.... I look forward to proving the validity of this process for El Dorado County and our future conversation where we discuss the successes coordination has brought to our home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps some skepticism is warranted, therefore understandable&#8230;. I look forward to proving the validity of this process for El Dorado County and our future conversation where we discuss the successes coordination has brought to our home.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith Mathat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judith Mathat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this Board of Supervisors ever thought to looking at how other successful coordination processes were being used by other counties they would save themselves a lot of talk and dribble and county staff time.  Coordination has been being used for years under staqrting under Stewards of the Range with Fred Kelly Grant&#039;s tutelage to his own organization whose two seminars in EL Dorado County (one of which we got many attendees to learn about the process) during which two supervisors, including Supervisor Nutting attended. Nutting has had to be pulled screaming and bellowing into learning about how coordination works by those of us who have known about this process for years the only reason Nutting got involved is his pocketbook and the effect USFS issues would have on his timberlands and Supervisor Sweeney needed to understand how the Rubicon Trail issues could be effected by using this method to keep the trail open.  
To bad it has to take a personal threat or interest to get a Supervisor to react instead of act.  Hopefully this committee may be able to work successfully, as do other counties, but only if the staff does not come up with limiting the input and methodology needed to be effective.  It is always better to look to the successful counties than try and invent a new wheel.  What hasn&#039;t been said is that ANY entity like EID, GDPUD, CSD&#039;s, or any taxing agency can require government agancies to come to the table under coordination.  It does not have to be the BOS.  So lets hope they do not screw this up as they have in the past (aka getting a pitance from SMUD relicensing) (SNEP) etc.on making sure El Dorado County gets its citizens property rights protected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this Board of Supervisors ever thought to looking at how other successful coordination processes were being used by other counties they would save themselves a lot of talk and dribble and county staff time.  Coordination has been being used for years under staqrting under Stewards of the Range with Fred Kelly Grant&#8217;s tutelage to his own organization whose two seminars in EL Dorado County (one of which we got many attendees to learn about the process) during which two supervisors, including Supervisor Nutting attended. Nutting has had to be pulled screaming and bellowing into learning about how coordination works by those of us who have known about this process for years the only reason Nutting got involved is his pocketbook and the effect USFS issues would have on his timberlands and Supervisor Sweeney needed to understand how the Rubicon Trail issues could be effected by using this method to keep the trail open.<br />
To bad it has to take a personal threat or interest to get a Supervisor to react instead of act.  Hopefully this committee may be able to work successfully, as do other counties, but only if the staff does not come up with limiting the input and methodology needed to be effective.  It is always better to look to the successful counties than try and invent a new wheel.  What hasn&#8217;t been said is that ANY entity like EID, GDPUD, CSD&#8217;s, or any taxing agency can require government agancies to come to the table under coordination.  It does not have to be the BOS.  So lets hope they do not screw this up as they have in the past (aka getting a pitance from SMUD relicensing) (SNEP) etc.on making sure El Dorado County gets its citizens property rights protected.</p>
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		<title>By: citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/coordination-more-than-just-a-12-letter-word/comment-page-1/#comment-161168</link>
		<dc:creator>citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now completely controlled by centralized federal agencies, local jurisdictions have lost all autonomy.  Our Constitutional protections have been suborned.  Everything must be &quot;coordinated&quot; with the feds. Citizens have been reduced to vassals.   Does anyone in government retain even the foggiest memory of the late great Constitution of the United States?  Certainly not our Board of Supervisors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now completely controlled by centralized federal agencies, local jurisdictions have lost all autonomy.  Our Constitutional protections have been suborned.  Everything must be &#8220;coordinated&#8221; with the feds. Citizens have been reduced to vassals.   Does anyone in government retain even the foggiest memory of the late great Constitution of the United States?  Certainly not our Board of Supervisors.</p>
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		<title>By: Watchful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watchful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way to go Ray, now after twelve years you want to be a part of helping, wow now that it&#039;s seems as if this will be your last term you want to be a part of something that makes sense. Well look under this word coordination and you will see A-21 and the whole Government Control Issue, and that&#039;s why Ray wants in, don&#039;t be fooled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go Ray, now after twelve years you want to be a part of helping, wow now that it&#8217;s seems as if this will be your last term you want to be a part of something that makes sense. Well look under this word coordination and you will see A-21 and the whole Government Control Issue, and that&#8217;s why Ray wants in, don&#8217;t be fooled.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Roffe</title>
		<link>http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/coordination-more-than-just-a-12-letter-word/comment-page-1/#comment-161153</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Roffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done, Chris. This is the process I have discussed here many times that will go a long way to giving a local say in actions taken at the Federal level. No one can say, if we had coordination in effect, that it would have made a difference on the 42 road closure issue for example, however I can no reason that local input into proposed plans by the various Federal agencies... would not be a good thing..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Chris. This is the process I have discussed here many times that will go a long way to giving a local say in actions taken at the Federal level. No one can say, if we had coordination in effect, that it would have made a difference on the 42 road closure issue for example, however I can no reason that local input into proposed plans by the various Federal agencies&#8230; would not be a good thing..</p>
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