Wednesday, May 22, 2013
CALIFORNIA'S OLDEST NEWSPAPER - EST. 1851
Volume 162 · Issue 61 | 99¢

Forecast for El Dorado Hills community development

Six sprawling specific plans were approved between 1987 and 1998, covering nearly 10,000 acres of El Dorado Hills. Those plans locked in development rights for an estimated 14,000 homes that would come to define El Dorado Hills far more than the villages envisioned by Alan Linsey and Victor Gruen in the late 1950s.

Most of the new homes had yet to be built when the 2004 General Plan was fought over and eventually approved. One of the most contentious issues was the forecast for 32,000 new homes in the county by 2025, including those in the existing specific plans. Most of the new homes would be “accommodated,” in planning parlance, in El Dorado Hills.

Jim Brunello of EDAC predicted that the latest growth projections, due in the next 30 days, will show slower residential demand than the 2004 forecasts, pushing the planning horizon to 2035 or beyond.

Rural areas, by contrast, would likely show greater demand than the 2004 forecast.

The forecasts are important because, in theory at least, the board should use them to drive large land-use decisions, he said, and community councils will want to be involved in the discussion. The councils will also address road policy. Brunello mentioned Green Valley Road, where hundreds of new homes are currently proposed with no planned widening of what locals claim has become a congested and dangerous east-west transportation artery.

“If you want to be involved you better get there early,” Brunello said.

“If my proposal benefits the community; if I have the interest and support of other councils, then I stand a much better chance (of approval),” he continued, explaining the role of councils when developers come knocking. “And if my project meets the community standards, my chances are even better. That’s what we’re proposing. Most developers would prefer the strictest standards over trying to guess what the community wants.”

EID Director Alan Day called the CDAC model “a good way to find commonality with other groups and gain synergy.”

Local real estate specialist and EDAC volunteer Steve Ferry organized last week’s meeting on behalf of the Tea Party Patriots of El Dorado Hills, but made it clear that the Tea Party has no desire to be a community group or even the facilitator.

El Dorado Hills resident Noah Briel is a mixed-use advocate and long-standing EDAC volunteer. “It’s working now,” he said of the CDAC process. “The question is can we take it down to the community level, rather than just have people like Gordon (Helm) and Steve (Ferry) and me up there representing all of you. I’m a good guy, but I’m not you and I don’t share all your concerns.”

The following night Senior Planner Shawna Purvines appeared at the regular monthly Area Planning Advisory Committee meeting and delivered a tight summary of the Land Use Policy Programmatic Update, aka LUPPU, which is the vehicle for the land use and regulatory reform measures currently under environmental review.

Despite the enthusiastic meeting the prior night, her audience was little more than a dozen APAC regulars.

Purvines took the CDAC model one step down, explaining how local councils can formalize a vision by agreeing on their community’s defining qualities, for example: “What makes you Bass Lake Hills?”

Those goals will be expanded into community design standards and a community plan which, in the short term, would have to be consistent with the General Plan and zoning, but longer term could suggest zoning changes or even land use designation changes.

She warned that each council must represent a cross-section of the community, and encouraged the inclusion of land owners.

Purvines said she’s done it before, and the resulting plans created trust and support between the community and supervisors. She promised outcomes that better reflect the will of the community.

The process is not well-suited to conventional meetings, which could drag on for months, she said. High speed facilitated meetings work better, Purvines explained, promising tools and personal assistance to drive the creation of a community plan quickly.

“You want to get plugged into the board sooner rather than later,” she said.

El Dorado Hills residents must first define their councils. Neighborhoods such as Bass Lake Hills, which have yet to build out, are a natural fit for the process, said Purvines.

Residents of older, built-out neighborhoods where residential design standards are less an issue might band together.

She offered large maps of El Dorado Hills, suitable for working out council boundaries, but said someone or some group needs to host the council formation process.

A core group of El Dorado Hills leaders were also set to meet on Feb. 18 to discuss the best way to launch the process locally.

LEAVE A COMMENT

Discussion | 8 comments

The Mountain Democrat does not necessarily condone the comments here, nor does it review every post. Read our full policy

  • NancyFebruary 20, 2013 - 7:13 am

    Wait a minute. What happened to the ordinance passed a few years ago in EDC where only 1200 homes a year could be built in this county?

    Report abusive comment
  • Rob CareyFebruary 20, 2013 - 12:18 pm

    Nancy, you can joke about lack of development which has stricken most if the state. But the truth is, these edac people wish to and will probably destroy our rural way of life and curse this county with the burden if high density mixed use development throughout

    Report abusive comment
  • francescaduchamp@att.netFebruary 20, 2013 - 2:39 pm

    The process is not well-suited to conventional meetings, which could drag on for months, she said. High speed facilitated meetings work better, Purvines explained, promising tools and personal assistance to drive the creation of a community plan quickly. If this is like the Pollock Pines meeting--it means meetings are salted--and you are guided towards a certain goal...there is no individualism. And in our case--not many even knew the history of our town--including the name on the building.

    Report abusive comment
  • Bill E.February 21, 2013 - 7:42 am

    The naysayers complain about a process that reaches out to the public for input in a structured process. However, the real complaint is that they themselves can not build consensus with their neighbors and their own personal vision. These same people do not like debate because they are right and thus everyone else is wrong. These type of meetings should be held, lead by professionals to achieve an end which is a community identity plan. Anything else is herding cats which is no different than what has happened for the past 20 years.

    Report abusive comment
  • francescaduchamp@att.netFebruary 21, 2013 - 7:47 am

    Bill--have you come to one of our meetings? I have no idea what is happening down the hill--but I know locals--who have been here in Pollock are being insulted. Our next meeting is on feb.25th at 6:00 pm--at our Pollock Pines /Camino community center (that is run by the people--not government...it is a community endeaver.

    Report abusive comment
  • EvelynFebruary 21, 2013 - 7:57 am

    Bill: You say people (whom you call "naysayers") do not like debate. Having attended the Pollock Pines meeting Fran references, could you please indicate what opportunities for debate you observed built into the structure of that meeting?

    Report abusive comment
  • francescaduchamp@att.netFebruary 21, 2013 - 7:58 am

    from the community...(here in Pollock) Who do these people think they are!? My family and I have lived here for over 50 years and we love Pollock Pines, the only thing wrong now days are the Flatlanders who move here and try to change it into a city We who have been here and like it the way it is are the ones who should and will make the decisions for our community. Someone who was very mad at the meeting... I love Pollock Pines and I can't believe the negativity I just read from these people. This was in response to someone saying, "...if they wont paint the places--we will make them..." a NEW BUSINESS COMING INTO OUR TOWN--NEW JOBS...response from our meetings host group...Melissa Markgraf Nyc Seriously? A dollar store? Ugh. I wish it was something that might raise up Pollock Pines. Not cheapen it. Lol...i think I'll avoid the $1 SUP board and the $1 ski equipment....I'd rather live through the experience. 17 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1 Tim Roffe What a waste..... Has anyone looked at the general atmosphere at the end of Broadway in P-ville? You know, where the "dollar store" is? Not much for expanding tourism interests... let alone a valuable area that could be so much better... sort of like putting a subway in a spot with an incredible view... oh, never mind. Any chance this “corp” would like to listen to locals? 11 hours ago · Like · 2 Community Economic Development Association of Pollock Pines - CEDAPP There's always that chance, Tim. And this is not the $1.00 Dollar store like in Placerville. The Family Dollar Stores are more like a Big Lots. There's not much in there for only a buck. I made the argument with Evan for a recreational store, but he said there were no takers. Beverly Read Can't believe anyone with $$$ would think this is a good idea. Ugh! I for one will NOT support it. Beverly Read Meaning I won't shop there! This is not a group that is positive...this is a group that only wants what they feel is right...I invite you to our meeting. The rest of us will welcome the new business--because the rest of us are good people--good neighbors. This is not about choices--this is "bullying."

    Report abusive comment
  • francescaduchamp@att.netFebruary 21, 2013 - 8:06 am

    one of my favorite comments..."... Not much for expanding tourism interests..." And the other, is the reference to our Subway...the people who have it...have built up that whole area since they were 19 years old...they have the right to do as they please--and have always been big supporters of this town. Again this group wants to control--not debate.

    Report abusive comment
.

News

Kids learn while having fun at Farm Day

By Dawn Hodson | From Page: A1 | Gallery

 
Wakamatsu branches out

By Dawn Hodson | From Page: A1 | Gallery

 
Bass Lake Road closure announced

By Chris Daley | From Page: A1

Embezzler seeking resolution

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A1

 
PHS cafeteria gets a do-over

By Wendy Schultz | From Page: A1

Rider saved after falling down cliff on quad

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A3, 2 Comments | Gallery

 
Quick hearing changes dates in child death case

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A3

Professional and business services led year-over growth

By Diane Patterson | From Page: A6

 
Supes show military appreciation

By Chris Daley | From Page: A7

Statewide median income up in 2011

By Franchise Tax Board | From Page: A7

 
FLC celebrates 10th commencement tonight

Press Release | From Page: A7

Regional HVAC company seeks a home to ‘help’

By Chris Daley | From Page: A11

 
.

Opinion

Take my word for it: Life gives you lemons

By Patrick Ibarra | From Page: A4, 1 Comment

 
Just plain wrong

By Mountain Democrat | From Page: A4, 11 Comments

My turn: Freedom under siege

By Tom Mcclintock | From Page: A4, 34 Comments

 
.

Letters

Austerity versus posterity

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5, 3 Comments

 
Austerity?

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5, 30 Comments

Logan/Victory Mine building

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5, 2 Comments

 
Where will they go?

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5, 4 Comments

Mediocrity

By Letters to the Editor | From Page: A5

 
.

Sports

Bruins’ return to finals was familiar territory

By Mike Bush | From Page: A8 | Gallery

 
Masters last stop before finals

By Jerry Heinzer | From Page: A8

Heinz-sight: Cheated

By Jerry Heinzer | From Page: A8

 
Ponderosa’s Pereira third at NorCals

By Democrat Staff | From Page: A8

Hangtown Classic draws record crowd

By Democrat Staff | From Page: A9 | Gallery

 
.

Prospecting

Culinary stars shine at Future Chefs

By Mimi Escabar | From Page: B1 | Gallery

 
At a glance: Busy time

By Mimi Escabar | From Page: B2

Winning Ponderosa choirs to perform

Press Release | From Page: B2 | Gallery

 
Find special treasures in El Dorado

By El Dorado | From Page: B2 | Gallery

Grow For It! Vacation: What to know before you go

By Sarah Preiss-Farzanegan MD | From Page: B4

 
Future Chefs share recipes

By Democrat Staff | From Page: B4

Future chefs cook up scholarship wins

By Mimi Escabar | From Page: B6

 
.

Essentials

Crime Log: April 25-28

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A2

 
DUI Log: May 2-4

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A2

.

Obituaries

Suzanne L. (Moore) Lute

By Contributor | From Page: A2

 
Delta Mae Petersen

By Contributor | From Page: A2

Joan Marjorie Hughes

By Contributor | From Page: A2

 
.

Real Estate

.

Comics

Flying McCoys

By Contributor | From Page: A12

 
Speed Bump

By Contributor | From Page: A12

Tundra

By Contributor | From Page: A12

 
Horoscope, Thursday, May 23, 2013

By Contributor | From Page: A12

Horoscope, Wednesday, May 22, 2013

By Contributor | From Page: A12

 
Working It Out

By Contributor | From Page: A12

TV Listings

By Contributor | From Page: A12

 
Shoe

By Contributor | From Page: A12

Sudoku

By Contributor | From Page: A12

 
Rubes

By Contributor | From Page: A12

New York Times Crossword

By Contributor | From Page: A12