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Hangtown Haven to close

From page A3 | October 25, 2013 | 49 Comments

At the Oct. 8 Placerville City Council meeting, Mayor Wendy Thomas announced that Hangtown Haven, the legal camp for homeless on Broadway, will close when its temporary use permit expires on Nov. 15.

The mayor issued the following press release at the City Council meeting:

“Hangtown Haven, the legal campground for homeless folks in transition, has been a pilot program in Placerville for the past year. The goal has been to test creative answers to this challenge, to figure out what works and what doesn’t, while we work toward more permanent solutions in a collaborative effort with El Dorado County staff and Board of Supervisors.

“As this council has stated from the beginning of Hangtown Haven, the Temporary Use Permit will not extend beyond Nov. 15. This date was selected to coordinate with the opening of the 2013-2014 Nomadic Shelter season.

“We have learned a lot from Hangtown Haven, both successes and failures. These will benefit us as we move forward to create a better model. While the permit for Hangtown Haven will not be renewed, we have been diligently working on the next step, and tremendous progress has been made. Vice mayor Hagen, City Manager Morris and myself have been working with the county to move boldly forward in a coordinated effort. Currently, a team from the County Health and Human Services Agency os being assembled and will be available to start meeting next week with residents of the Haven to help them transition into the next phase of their life. We are also exploring options for day shelters to be open during this Nomadic Shelter season. The goal is to give folks a place to go during the day, to continue the sense of community evident in Hangtown Haven and have a dedicated place for volunteer services.

“Finally, in addition to these immediate measures, the city and the county are committed to working with members of the Haven and other interested parties to move forward on a more permanent solution for people in transition. The success of Hangtown Haven has made this possible, and we look forward to making meaningful progress on this issue.”

Earlier in that day, Mayor Thomas, Vice Mayor Carl Hagen, City Manager Cleve Morris,Police Chief Scott Heller and Community Development Director Pierre Rivas visited Hangtown Haven to alert the residents to the eminent closure of the camp.


Discussion | 49 comments

  • teetemOctober 24, 2013 - 9:49 am

    A whole section of the strip mall a bit down the street from Hangtown Haven is empty - Jed's restaurant has been empty for quite some time. Perhaps grant money could be found somewhere to lease this property, or any of the numerous empty businesses in that area, and turn them into a PERMANENT shelter/home for the homeless. I think it's an absolute shame that nothing was figured out in the last year to insure these folks a roof over their heads as the weather gets colder.

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  • kggOctober 25, 2013 - 7:46 am

    so disappointing.

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  • ElaineOctober 25, 2013 - 7:59 am

    It is heartbreaking that a successful experiment in providing safe haven for our most vulnerable residents will be closed. It is my understanding that almost all of the key power players, from the mayor to the property owner, want to see Hangtown Haven continue through the cold winter. What small-hearted grinch is blocking this?

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  • cookie65October 25, 2013 - 9:10 am

    The argument could be made that they will become truly homeless when the city tears down their camp without any formal alternative other than some patchwork of "we are working diligently on it". I hope they aren't working on it the same way obama has been focused on jobs.

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  • Gaspen AspenOctober 25, 2013 - 9:30 am

    The goal has been to test creative answers to this challenge, to figure out what works and what doesn’t," WE work and pay taxes and THEY don't!

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  • MorrisOctober 25, 2013 - 10:09 am

    Enlighten us Gaspen.... What is your proposed solution to assist these folks? Bus ticket to somewhere not in your backyard? Quick fix. But then again they might hitchhike back. And even if they didn't, there will be others - new faces young and old men and women - that find themselves unworthy of shelter because they just aren't as darn hard-working as yourself. So how 'bout it Gaspen....lets just implement a final solution. Kill them. Grind 'em up and use the resulting slurry to fill the pot holes that inconvenience you on the way to a nice meal out or perhaps to a wine tasting or even when out shopping for stuff you don't need but buy anyway just because you deserve it for being so darned hard working. And pay taxes that certainly you don't cheat on. Yes, let's just kill all those losers. For certainly every last one is just a lazy drunken bum that falls short of The Great Gaspen Asspen.

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  • Great Gaspen AspenOctober 25, 2013 - 11:09 am

    I have it Morris. Lets let them camp in your back yard. Perfect solution. What's that??? OHHH, yes, I didn't think so. You are quick to defend these trolls, so why not do the ultimate kindness and let them live with you? End of problems....for us. Tell me how many of you bleeding hearts have taken a job applicationg to these people? How many of them have filled one out and who of your little clan has actually found a job and is contributing to society again? You are one of the reasons this state is now considered the welfare state of the nation. Free, free, everything while the rest of us pay for it. "Give these people a fish and they will eat for a day. Teach them to fish and they eat for a lifetime". Simple and sound wisdom to most of us.

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  • No GasOctober 25, 2013 - 11:24 am

    Gas Ass there you go again

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  • cookie65October 25, 2013 - 11:26 am

    Great Aspen, leftism has revised the "give a man a fish" parable. Give a man a fish and he will ask for tartar sauce.

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  • Great Gaspen AspenOctober 25, 2013 - 12:03 pm

    Me...left? SERIOUSLY NOT!! Your statement proves once again, give them something for free and they want MORE for FREE. You are not helping these people by giving them everything with no expectations of them actually working for what they are given. Pathetic, if you can't see they are free-loaders.

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  • MorrisOctober 25, 2013 - 12:23 pm

    'My little clan' ??? Care to elaborate on that one Gaspen? As for the other questions concerning money/mouth: Yes. I have assisted the homeless; and not by rolling down my window and yelling 'get a job'. (Curious tho as to how many follow up letters you receive from employed formerly homeless individuals that write: ...'Thank you for educating me with your wisdom of 'get a job!'....I hadn't thought of that idea!! UR so smart!! Regards, Your Taxpayer Friend...') Specifically, the assistance in serving as Trustee of the family trust and foundation. Pretty much keep that to myself; being that giving without feeling a need to tell others about it is a quality admired and embodied in grace. But since ya called me out and hypocrisy is something I abhor, my money to mouth ratio is balanced just fine. And I've personally worked with abused, homeless women and defeated men and scared children and known their stories. And their desire for dignity. It's damn hard to get back up once one slides below a certain threshold. It's clear from your statements that you have no idea of what that might entail. In fact, I'll to out on a limb and say you dont have a clue as to the challenges faced. Things little that you take for granted. Things big that you can float a loan for. And all things in between that are many many times more difficult than what they are for you. Hint: They are not resolved by simply a willingness to work hard. Contrary to your 'experience' most of the homeless population wants to work and have a home. Be self-sustaining. I hope you never find yourself in thIs position of sliding below the line; because in my real-world experience guys such as yourself fall the hardest. The Beached White Male ain't pretty.

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  • Great Gaspen AspenOctober 25, 2013 - 1:46 pm

    I HAVE fallen on hard times in my life. NEVER did I ONCE think OR expect someone else to pull me through it....let alone with free hand outs. I found my way back on my own again because I wasn't expecting free hand outs as so many do now thanks to our government. I can see you are a caring person but I don't agree with giving these people free stuff. Think what you want but the fact remains that most of these people CHOOSE to live a free, free, it's all about me, life and they do drugs and alcohol. I have worked on the streets for 20yrs and have seen the REALITY of who most (not all) of them are. Keep up the good work. You have job security with these people....though you may not be getting paid for this.

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  • MorrisOctober 25, 2013 - 2:30 pm

    Gaspen, I have no doubt that there have been struggles in your life and that these difficulties were successfully overcome. Most of us have in one degree or another faced and survived tough times. That's just life. I propose, however, that while these times may have been serious or life-threatening or even dangerous, still fall short of the truly defeating and crippling hardships faced by those you disdain so. Are you White? Place a check in the advantage box...because just white - White alone and without regard for any experiences or economic standing - places you at advantage. Did you have average to above average credit? Complete high-school? Did you know your father? If so, did he provide for the family and play an active role in your life? Were your parents addicts or alcoholics? Did you ever go hungry as a child? Proper nutrition? Do you have a physical condition that limits your range of motion and/or experience chronic pain? Are you escaping spousal abuse? Have children before age 18? Grow up with role models that actively participated in you life? Is your transportation reliable?....These things are but a sliver of the many factors that contribute to someone falling down or being able to avoid such. The fact that you overcame challenges is admirable; but it in no way shape or form is indicative of a baseline for others. Only for yourself. To think otherwise is arrogant, cold and selfish. Certainly there is a subset of the homeless that are lazy and drunken bums that indeed choose this unfortunate path. I have no disagreements with you on that one. But here's the rub: You see that which you wish to see. You see those who meet the pre-defined criteria set by yourself; missing all the others that - in your defense - are almost invisible because they blend. Almost. They try to keep what little dignity they have left by pretending to look and act like you. If your blindness was lifted just a bit, you might notice the subtle things that give them away. But you don't. So you focus on those that play into every thing you want them to be so as to justify being healthy, sober, employed and well fed while passing them by without giving a damn if they live or die. Makes it easier on you. Allows you not to look into their eyes; yet place yourself as their judge. For those you don't see, well, you walk right by them as well. So it makes me ask again Gaspen, what is your solution alternative? What do you know that brings another path to the table? Please share with us. Honestly, I'd have more respect for you as a person if you just would say what i suspect you really mean: Do Nothing for Them. If 'they' cannot hold a job or be otherwise fully self-supportive, Do Nothing. Give Nothing. Let Them Die. Isn't that really what you wish to say but don't like the actual sounding of it Gaspen?

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  • Midnight12October 27, 2013 - 5:22 pm

    Who’s “We”? Certainly not the NFL, Despite the fact that it is a $9Billion/Year industry, the National Football League (NFL) continues to enjoy status as a non-profit organization -- meaning it doesn’t have to pay federal corporate taxes. The Commissioner of the NFL, Roger Goodell, makes nearly $30 million a year -- earning more than the heads of companies like Coca-Cola and Wal-Mart. Through TV deals alone, the NFL has inked nearly $30 billion with various television networks. And so often, people like you and me are asked to foot the bill for new stadiums through our own taxes. Yet despite being the most profitable sports league in the entire world, the NFL does not pay federal taxes, yet I don’t hear you having a problem with these guys. I guess it’s just easier to kick around the downtrodden. And this shelter was built with 78K of DONATED money.

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  • Midnight12October 27, 2013 - 5:42 pm

    Furthermore, I occasionally work in west sac, and am frequently in contact with the homeless there . Many of these people want to work but can't. But I'm sure you, Assburn, would be more than happy to hire them, the schizophrenics desperately trying to control the voices, or the poor young man who was born with fingers on his shoulders with no arms, or the young girl so disfigured from a mother who poured hot grease on her face or the vets with PTS so bad all they do is shake.. Where should they send their resumes? Tell me!

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  • James E.October 25, 2013 - 10:25 am

    Allow all the old people to die? Freeze them and ship their bodies to China where they will be rendered into doggy treats. Well, it's one solution.

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  • MorrisOctober 25, 2013 - 10:39 am

    Excellent idea James! How about this for the younger ones: Harvest their organs! The sell them to those in need. Seems Gaspen needs a heart...slap a 10% sales tax on it and the county wins too!

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  • Dink LaneOctober 25, 2013 - 2:20 pm

    Conservative Ohio Gov. Kasich "told a fellow conservative that St. Peter probably wasn't going to ask him what he did to keep government small, 'but he's going to ask you what you did for the poor. You better have a good answer'."...... Wonder what GASPEN ASPEN would tell St. Peter? "Hey guy, I paid my taxes." ......"Great," St. Peter said.... "Now, go down, pick up your shovel and get to work."

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  • cookie65October 25, 2013 - 3:38 pm

    Dink, let's do for the poor what the left has. Expand their numbers and make them fully dependent on crumbs, squalor and whatever left overs the socialists haven't kept for themselves once they have confiscated them from the evil producers. What makes you or anyone else entitled to what other people earn?

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  • MorrisOctober 25, 2013 - 4:29 pm

    It's called Humanity, Cookie. And btw..the very fact that you are posting established that you - yes you Cookie - are taking someone else earnings. Got a mortgage? Yup. Ya took some money from someone else there too. Can call 911 and have police or fire come? Grabit Rabbit strikes again. Other people's money. You are just oozing with benefit from the earnings of millions of others not your own. Their hard work and portions of their income provide much of the basis in which your daily life suckles upon.

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  • cookie65October 26, 2013 - 6:45 am

    So Morris, expanding the numbers in poverty to record levels is called humanity? Robbing people of freedom thru government dependence is compassion? If it is the responsibility of your neighbor to provide for you, who's responsibility is it to provide for your neighbor? It isn't your money or my money the government is spending, it the unborn's money. The argument that because I don't agree with the solutions you favor (which have not worked and costs trillions) to poverty makes me selfish, greedy, scrooge or any other thing is nothing short of pathetic. There are solutions to poverty, but solving poverty is not how the left expands its power and hold on government institutions. They have no intention of solving poverty, they have every intention of expanding it. And you call that compassion. Desperate people are easier to control and anyone who does not understand the motive of government is to control shouldn't be voting. You support and defend a system that has zero record of elevating and expanding prosperity. It steals everything in its path. It centralizes wealth and power and creates two classes. The have's and the have nots. It transforms freedom into slavery.

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  • Midnight12October 27, 2013 - 6:17 pm

    Cookie you b$#ch about a highly stratified society, yet any attempt to level the playing field this you scream socialism. So which is it? You can't have it both ways. But this is typical of you, talking out both sides of your mouth.

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  • Dink LaneOctober 25, 2013 - 4:31 pm

    What makes you or anyone else ENTITLED to what other people earn?...... You mean like the KOCH Brothers.... and how they EARNED their inheritance?...... Or do you mean like Prince Harry and how he EARNED his royal position?..... OH I see.... You're only talking about those poor people..... The ones Jesus, St. Francis, Mother Teresa, and Pope Francis talk about...... I pray you're never poor and need help....

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  • cookie65October 26, 2013 - 6:58 am

    Dink, you are mentally ill. What in the world do the Koch brothers have to do with the fact that we are $17 trillion in debt, we have more people on government dependence than those working, we have more government agencies than the free market economy could ever dream of supporting, we have trillions in unfunded public sector legacy costs, we are shackled with more regulations than the entire planet combined, the middle class is the only demographic that is shrinking, millions of young adults with mountains of tuition debt can't get jobs, gas prices have stayed above $3/gal. for over three years and you are still screaming about the Koch brothers. You need to learn how your hate turns into obsession and prevents you from learning. Otherwise you will remain nothing more than just a useful idiot.

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  • cookie65October 26, 2013 - 7:18 am

    moochelle obama's Princeton classmate is a top executive at the tech firm that got the NO-BID contract to build the imploding obozocare website. I wish our leftist friends would open their eyes just long enough to let some of the light in. But alas, the darkness can't stand the light.

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  • REWOctober 25, 2013 - 5:31 pm

    Welcome to spaceship planet Earth: A ship so ingeniously designed that mankind until recently, never had a clue that it was on one. The spinning planet spaceship Earth is flying through the universe at a million miles per hour, with a good water and food source for all its passengers. Mother Earth gives all her passengers a set of instructions called instincts. All the passengers but ONE follows these rules. Humans have misplaced their internal handbook. Important rules like don't poison the water, soil or air. Overuse resources, deforest massive areas, overpopulate or create dangerous genetically modified food sources and abuse domestic livestock for no other reason than to profit. Mother Earth has for eons decided some passengers have finished their flight. Only humans continue to force other passengers to leave because humans collectively ignore thier instincts. We see everywhere in the world there are ordinary people willing to confront despair, wars, power, and incalculable odds in order to restore some semblance of grace, justice, and beauty to this world. There are many groups and organizations who are working on the most salient issues of our day: Poverty, deforestation, peace, water, hunger, conservation, human rights, and more. Possibly the largest movement the world has ever seen. Rather than control, it seeks connection. Rather than dominance, it strives to disperse the concentrations of power limiting the masses from purpose. Humans can create the conditions that are conducive to life. Humans should think of no better motto for a future life and global economy. Humans have abandoned homes without people and abandoned people without homes. Human societies have failed lawyers advising failed bankers advising failed regulators and failed lobbyists advising corrupt politicians on how to save failed assets. Humans are the only species on the planet without full employment. Every bacteria, insect, plant and animal on the planet has a purpose. Humans have created a Global economy that is destroying Earth in real time rather than renewing, restoring, and sustaining it. Humans print currency to bail out financial institutions but unfortunately humans can't print life to bail out a planet. Currently humans are stealing the future, selling it in the present calling it gross domestic product while leaving the cost to our own offspring and every other living organism. We need to create an economy that is based on healing the future instead of stealing it. We either create assets for the future or take the assets of the future. One is called restoration and the other exploitation. And whenever we exploit the Earth we exploit everything, and this always causes untold human suffering. Life on this planet should not be a way to get rich for a few, but a way to be rich in life. Human greed by the few for centuries has caused senseless suffering to the masses. GOD and Mother Earth own and pilot the Spaceship Earth. Our fare is being paid by ordinary compassionate people from all the races and religions of the world. With GODS grace, hopefully their efforts will continue to be enough...

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  • Midnight12October 27, 2013 - 7:10 pm

    Best stuff I’ve ever read in an opinion piece. Beautiful.. I'm forwarding this to all my peeps! I've wondered at the Tea-parties preoccupation for "the future generations being saddled with debt", but no concern for their water air, food etc.

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  • EvelynOctober 25, 2013 - 5:42 pm

    REW: Previously you have posted similarly on homelessness. For me, your message does not grow old. Thank you.

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  • REWOctober 25, 2013 - 6:11 pm

    Thank you, Projects everywhere like Hangtown Haven will never be perfect, but is a step in the right direction.

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  • EvelynOctober 25, 2013 - 5:52 pm

    Four years ago it was reported that 40% of homeless men are veterans, 89% of whom received honorable discharges. HERE - Does this info. gel with our stereotypes about homeless people?

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  • 1036-FrankOctober 25, 2013 - 9:09 pm

    It is interesting that in nature there are no such things as this. If an animal doesn't prepare for hard times in winter by preparing in easy times, they perish. Humans have created the "carry me" condition and an age old question of what should be done for those who will not do for themselves and it usually is by a series of bad choices and addictions. Charity, not govt. or taxes to give is usually for the best and perhaps the only answer to an age old question.

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  • MorrisOctober 26, 2013 - 12:44 am

    No Frank, it isn't interesting. Hasn't been for about the 3.2 million years since our buddy Australopithecus decided s/he was not just a monkey but rather a smart monkey. In those many years past between the present and the hairy brown roots of our family tree, we have evolved more significantly than any ofher creature on Earth. Unlike all but seven species of animals, we recognize our image within a mirror and unlike ANY animal we are wholly self-aware. Further, we are a largely proactive species in stimuli predictive situations where, simply, we effectively direct and create our long-term path in such affairs as when we marry, deciding on a career, where to live, etc. Animals can predict as well however it is largely short-term; driven by basic needs such as cycles of food appearance and disappearance. But mostly, animals are reactive and reactive with limited processing; expressed something like this: ...danger run danger run danger run' or 'hungry hungry eat eat chase chase eat eat' lather rinse repeat. What MOST makes us so unlike animals is not that we have no natural born features that shelter us from the efffects of living 'naked' outside within eztremes of heat or cold....nope its even more significant. We are the ONLY known life form that assigns meaning. We assign everything; literally our lives are lived as meaning making machines. In comparison, we sound like this: ....'hungry want food which food where food when food oh gawd this is good food more food im stuffed food ok pie too food reminds me of my mom's pie now happy food but sad food mom not here' Lather. Rinse. Repeat. Several hundred million times a day and with an emotional range that has grown considerably since giving up the whole naked and feral thing. We care for each other, develop emotional bonds and base our relationships (largely) on positive feelings of friendship and love. Animals are largely driven to propagate; twerkin in the woods to ensure the species survival. We tend to bond for much different reasons (well, girls do at least. Takes us men about 25 years to move beyond being in perpetual rut) So in knowing this and being capable of some degree critical thinking, it's quite sad to think that the trite soundbite about animals and contained within your post might find traction in those easily led to falsehoods. Likely it came from one of those AM radio talk shows where manipulative commentators purposely lead manipulated listeners into the abyss of deception. It's almost evil. Actually, it is evil. They withhold information, parse quotes to change the true meaning and convincingly inflame groups of individuals who accept oversimplification, shoehorning, stereotyping and soft-racism soundbites as gospel true. No fact check or source audit necessary. It is because I says it is. Democrats will not send this country into financial or moral ruin. Republicans will not send our country into elitist hell or callous cold scroogery. We will deliver our own selfs there wrapped in the bows of ignorance, arrogance and selfishness. It's one thing to disagree and maintain civil discord. That is normal. And works. This....this is something much different...this mental enema that people fall for without regard to thought or analysis. It's scary. It's totally reactive; not proactive. So perhaps we are just like animals. Indeed.

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  • EvelynOctober 26, 2013 - 6:13 am

    Morris: Your overview is wonderfully nuanced. Much appreciated.

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  • Terri KlineOctober 27, 2013 - 3:03 pm

    Morris, what a delight to witness the intelligent, well-spoken, educated and most of all disciplined way in which you present the realities of this extremely difficult social issue. A particularly trying task when dealing with the ignorant and uninformed on these pages. You are a breath of fresh air in this sad tea party county.

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  • MorrisOctober 29, 2013 - 3:38 am

    Terri, your feedback is very much appreciated. Thank you!

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  • MorrisOctober 28, 2013 - 11:45 pm

    Thank you Evelyn for your kind words. Appreciated.

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 27, 2013 - 10:00 pm

    Here's a warm and fuzzy just for you, Morris ~~~

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  • cookie65October 26, 2013 - 6:22 am

    Evelyn, have you read this?

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  • EvelynOctober 26, 2013 - 6:34 am

    I had not seen that particular article, Cookie. Economic recovery, my foot!!!

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  • EvelynOctober 27, 2013 - 11:05 am

    "Iraq vet: Losing home ‘worse than getting blown up’" - HERE: There are days, he said, when he wonders if he would have been better off dying in Iraq.

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  • Terri KlineOctober 27, 2013 - 3:11 pm

    Shame on you Placerville City Council! There is no reason you should not extend the current temporary use permit. Volunteers have spent countless hours and revenue to create this Haven that has worked well. To say that the city and county are working toward a something more permanent is a joke. You all purposely let this fall through the cracks by pushing the subject back on your agendas 'till nothing could done. What a crock.

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  • James E.October 27, 2013 - 7:27 pm

    Future generations saddled with debt -- just another Tea/Republican faux talking point. It doesn't matter what debt we will leave them because they won't be able to pay it as they won't have a job. Jobs first, deficits later.

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  • James E.October 27, 2013 - 7:30 pm

    What don't I understand here? Hangtown Haven closed just as cold weather arrives? Someone help me understand. Is this one of those deals where we should follow the money or property interests?

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  • Phil VeerkampOctober 27, 2013 - 7:46 pm

    James, I am catching a whiff of Kathleen Sebelius.

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  • robertdnollOctober 28, 2013 - 5:36 am

    "it doesn't matter what debt we will leave them"

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 6:09 am

    Why had it never occurred to me that the NFL is a registered "non-profit"? Sure enough, it is. Midnight12 correctly reports Commissioner Goddell's earnings at nearly $30,000,000. Actually that was on the NFL's 2011 Form 990 ($29,419,000 + $71,000 "Other"). Going into 2014, perhaps he's been bumped up a bit.

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  • EvelynOctober 28, 2013 - 9:04 am

    "Inside the hidden world of thefts, scams and phantom purchases at the nation’s nonprofits" - HERE: More than 1.6 million nonprofit groups are registered with the federal government, and they control more than $4.5 trillion in assets. An additional 700,000 organizations, such as churches and smaller groups, need not register.

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  • Great Gaspen AspenOctober 28, 2013 - 9:10 am

    "4:00 p.m. At approximately 11:00 a.m., a 56-year-old male victim left a 62-year-old male transient alone in his residence on North Shingle Road in Shingle Springs. When the victim returned home at 4 p.m., the victim noticed several items missing from his home. The transient was still at the home when the victim returned and denied taking the property" I rest my case! Any takers to house these trolls in your own residence??? Anyone.....anyone??? Yes, I didn't think so!

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  • MorrisOctober 29, 2013 - 12:05 am

    No, Gaspen, you do not rest your case. Only your laurels. This being the case, I'll be happy to 'take this one' by raising you: .....from the EDC Crime Log: ....1142 INFO IN NON PROFIT FRUAD \ COON HOLLOW RD, PLACERVILLE A FEMALE REPORTED THAT HER PUBLIC RELATIONS PERSON FOR HER NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN EMBEZZLING MONEY FROM THE ORGANIZATION.. AND...... 1200 243.2(A)( PC BATT ON PRSN:SCH/HOS \ PONDEROSA RD, RESCUE JUVENILE SUSPECT CITED FOR BATTERY ON SCHOOL GROUNDS AND VANDALISM V01 SEX=M VICTIM AGE = 15 S01 JUVENILE ARRESTED SEX=M AGE= 16.... NEED MORE EXAMPLES? On any given day their are couples who beat each other, family members who steal from their elderly, homeowners growing dope and assorted vehicular violations leading to a felon (who has a home) being in possession of something he or she should not. Your citing of the report means nothing other that 1. A man was robbed or 2. A man was not robbed and had made a false report. It says nothing about motive, detail or provided much more of anything one can lock onto other than - if true - it is not generally a good idea to leave strangers alone in your home. Further, I wonder what you might have cited if this suspect was listed as just black and without reference to residence status? And how would your story change - or not even appear at all - if the suspect was white. My bet is you'd ignore that example. Actually, you did ignore it and ignore it conveniently. Because your example fails a basic test of validity. In the bypassing of a other crimes that far outnumber the specific of this one incident, you have staged your own perfect crime scene. To fit the evidence you yourself feel justifies the crime. Cart. Horse. Arrogant. Deceptive. Flawed. WRONG.

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Men to walk a mile in her shoes

By Center For Violence-Free Relationships | From Page: B2 | Gallery

Runners stampede for Sugarloaf scholarships

By El Dorado County Office of Education | From Page: B2 | Gallery

Team works to fight disease

By Placerville Kiwanis | From Page: B3

COOL School is accepting applications

By Rescue Union | From Page: B4

Band of Miwoks fund mission

By Shingle Springs Band Of Miwok Indians | From Page: B12



Crime Log: March 25-27

By Cole Mayer | From Page: A2

Weather stats 4-15-14

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Ronald Russell Rohrer

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Numa Edward “Ed” Roberts

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Real Estate




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New York Times Crossword

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Horoscope, Thursday, April 17, 2014

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Horoscope, Wednesday, April 16, 2014

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TV Listings

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Flying McCoys

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Speed Bump

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Working It Out

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