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Lack of Board of Supervisors quorum causes loss for city

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From page A13 | July 12, 2013 | 30 Comments

The city of Placerville stood to save approximately $300,000 on the Western Placerville Interchanges Project, but because of an inability of the El Dorado County Board of Supervisors to achieve a voting quorum, that savings is a moot point.

“We can’t move this project forward, “said El Dorado County Supervisor Brian Veerkamp, who attended the July 9 Placerville City Council meeting. Veerkamp was responding to a question during public comment about whether the Board of Supervisors had been able to vote approval for a land transfer for the Western Placerville Interchanges Project which would save the city $300,000.

A change order in the Western Placerville Interchanges Project involved a slight relocation of  the onramp from Ray Lawyer Drive to Highway 50. “We saw that we wouldn’t need to build a retaining wall if we could get right of way land from the county,” said City Manager Cleve Morris.

The relocation involved access to a parcel of land owned by the county. The new location meets the slope requirement, meaning that the proposed retaining wall in the original plan would be unnecessary. The net savings to the project was about $300,000.

“Since this involved a transfer of land, it requires a four-fifths vote of the Board of Supervisors,” said Morris.

At the June 25 Board of Supervisors meeting, the change order was on the agenda. Supervisor Ron Briggs recused himself from the vote as the project is adjacent to property he owns and Supervisor Brian Veerkamp recused himself from the vote because his brother is the contractor for the project. Supervisor Ray Nutting has been indicted by the Grand Jury for felony offenses and cannot vote on any project that is federally funded.

“We couldn’t even use the Rule of Necessity,” said Veerkamp. The Rule of Necessity comes into play when a quorum isn’t able to be formed and instead, straws are drawn. “Our county counsel ruled that the Rule of Necessity couldn’t be used in this case.”

This situation could happen again on the Western Placerville Interchanges Project, said Morris, if another 4/5 vote is required. “You’ll have to talk to the county about next steps,” said Morris. “We are back to the retaining wall.”

Contact Wendy Schultz at 530 344-5069 or wschultz@mtdemocrat.net. Follow @wschultzMtDemo on Twitter.

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Discussion | 30 comments

  • JimBoJuly 11, 2013 - 3:52 pm

    Really?? If memory serves me, the BOS against the advice of the County Auditor Joe Harn, CPA gave away $2 million to the broke City of Placerville to build ramps to the Bridge to Nowhere and the Briggs Family Court House.

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  • FranJuly 11, 2013 - 4:50 pm

    project funding detail http://www.edctc.org/3/WPI_Phase1A.html

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  • FranJuly 11, 2013 - 4:54 pm

    http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/transprog/ctcbooks/2012/0512/041_2.3b3.pdf The overall Western Placerville Interchanges...

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  • FranJuly 11, 2013 - 9:40 pm

    Northern Colorado wants to secede from Colorado. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/northern-colorado-wants-secede-colorado-174432609.html

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  • LpJuly 12, 2013 - 12:43 am

    Wake up people! Do you see where this is going?

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  • cookie65July 12, 2013 - 6:21 am

    This is too funny, we have reached the point where the board cannot vote because they are either up on charges or voting would lead them to being up on charges...... self interest runs the government at every level.

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  • 1036-FrankJuly 12, 2013 - 7:18 am

    Welcome to the 2013 BOS! I guess people voting didn't think about the conflicts ahead of time by electing and reelecting these people, one connected to a large development company and one facing felony charges which were exposed last fall. Each are causing these vote issues. I am sure people wish they could rewind last fall's election and start over.

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  • JimBoJuly 12, 2013 - 10:31 am

    DUMB, DUMB Briggs F'd himself and his family. Gotta love it. Recall them all!

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  • EvelynJuly 12, 2013 - 11:08 am

    "Supervisor Ron Briggs recused himself from the vote as the project is adjacent to property he owns ... ." Wasn't there a further conflict, unreported here? According to this Mt. Dem. article, the courthouse property ITSELF "is held by the Briggs Family Trust".

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  • George WashingtonJuly 12, 2013 - 12:56 pm

    If Ray Nutting did the honorable thing and stepped down, this wouldn't be an issue. I agree with the sentiment "Recall them all!".

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  • Abe LincolnJuly 12, 2013 - 7:57 pm

    EDC is going to hell in a hand-basket. Abe Lincoln expressed it succinctly: "We, the people are the rightful masters of both the Congress and the courts not to overthrow the Constitution, but to OVERTHROW THE MEN who pervert the Constitution.” Abe's words of wisdom apply to the BOS as well.

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  • twshovelJuly 12, 2013 - 9:49 pm

    And once again, our most corrupt politician, Joe Harn is the hero? PULEASSEE!!!!! Wake Up El Dorado County residents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 3 blind miceJuly 13, 2013 - 8:35 am

    You see you have a Judge that exhibits behavior a State Judicial Commission proves that he does not follow the rule of law. Have any of you approached him with a threat that you will file complaints against him unless he grants your requests? But do understand that if you lose a Judge who is corrupt, your agenda may have to go through legal channels and possibly be denied. I see the logic with you all. Having a corrupt judge can actually get favorable rulings if the circumstances are equitable for a corrupt judge. I only mention this, because nobody seems to be offended by Judges who are deemed corrupt like "similarly situated public officials who are now jailed felons in other non corrupt counties. So I can only assume that you are trying to influence your platforms, but without the typical bribe, like you are a bit on the cheap relying on real democracy. However, you are thinking in error. A real democracy does not tolerate corruption, and I"m not talking about Ray Nutting. Look at his accusers. I'm not saying he isn't more corrupt, but you can actually scientifically measure the difference with an order of magnitude. I find that explaining this is like telling small children about "the boy who cried wolf," or Hans Christian Anderson's "The emperors new clothes." Nuttings accusers are openly manipulating the judicial system. The Counsel on Judicial Performance found Judge James Wagoner guilty of the same charges that sent Orange County elected Sherif Mike Carona to prison. They sent the case to Vern Pierson jurisdiction with a packet of evidence, and Vern Pierson is violating his oath of office by ignoring this evidence. What is the order of magnitude compared to Ray Nuttings alleged crime. Now remember, Judge James Wagoner is no longer an alleged criminal, he is an actual criminal that has been found guilty of several counts of obstructing a grand jury investigation to allow mentally ill jailed accused criminals to be armed to the tooth, while delusional. This behavior can cause families to be murdered dead, and this is common in our news. But on the other hand, Ray Nutting made some money that others didn't get, and selfish schadenfreude ignores real crime and blames a politician who got money others didn't get. The order of magnitude! Vern Pierson has a pattern of conduct abusing power by ignoring statutory laws requiring him to make arrests where he can provide no legitimate rational basis for inaction. In other words, "discretion not to arrest" does not attach when proof of crime is prima facie, or res ipsa loquitur. Pierson's pattern of conduct clearly, according to Macias v. Ihde, 9th cir., "was a cause of murder" in one Case 2:08-cv-00013-FCD-EFB. In another case, Ninth Cir, case # 11-17344 Pierson again followed like a football playbook, the same pattern to end a law suit by releasing bail on mentally ill criminal defendants to kill, without restraint, in violation of restraining orders, if he so desired. I don't know if Nutting was critical of Pierson, but Pierson, if you criticize or sue him, he has a record of letting ongoing violence or creating ongoing violence by ignoring court orders, so that those complaining about his negligence or willful ill will, even as crime victims, where his pals have their felonies fixed, like he is doing for Judge James Wagoner right under the nose of local Sacramento FBI, and DOJ offices. Now this is so embolden, one wonders how an D.A. can do this right out in the open. But then I read posts about "anti-growth" "maintained with lies…CEDAPP " "we are not Europe–"Land Use Policy" "30% slope restriction” "Maybe we could invite Ms. Taylor to one of our town meetings to present the maps and ideas behind the “centers” and “lines.” "begging for legal defense monies" "just how plain ignorant is the person that does?” and my personal favorite, lessons on public speaking "Tell them what you told them (the close)." All of you, for many years have been repeating the same rhetoric expecting different results, and its all been focused on your assets and land. Yet you ignore democracy and justice for all, and turn a blind eye to open felonies that once where the sole act of MAFIA "obstructing justice and grand juries so their assets and land could increase. Vern Piersons and Judge James Wagoner's are laughing at you all the way to the bank! I too, laugh in between the tears of sadness for waking up in a country of willful ignorant bad Samaritans who ignore real corruption that strikes at the heart of liberty, so you can have a "30 percent slope" or some ridiculous rot! Columbine, Ft. Hood, Colorado, Virginia Tech, Tucson, massacres are easily explained by El Dorado County officials, and their citizens who turn a blind eye. Is it possible that fairness would be met if the next victims where the ones who crated the danger, or even those citizens who turn a blind eye to it? That would be fair, but there is no logic to insane people who kill, except when the elements are staged by local officials who personally gain from mayhem that terrorizes their critics. 2nd Amendment would not be necessary if we had a first amendment that was meaningful. But arming mental patients has been done in El Dorado County by a Judge, and the either incompetence or willful ill will of a D.A. You choose. What is known for sure is that the Grand Jury investigation was ended, and now the Grand Jury is ended, well at least until the so called Judges can get members who will acquiesce to corruption. Apparently, you citizens like corruption, perhaps you are vying for a bit of graft yourselves to get the "30 % slope thingy" that blows up your skirts. Up the Annie a bit. Perhaps one of these officials have some extra bills they need to pay off, now that getting welfare for "land stamps" can bring paperwork scrutiny that can land them in jail. Other counties actually arrest and imprison officials who engage in technicality to cause fear in those who oppose their agenda. If you haven't been a victim of Vern Pierson or Judge Wagoner, you are not even a player. Showing up at the BOS is a sign of cognitive dissonance; people under a delusion that they are influencing corrupt officials with logic. It's really sad.

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  • 3 blind mice sezJuly 13, 2013 - 10:35 am

    If you haven’t been a victim of Vern Pierson or Judge Wagoner, you are not even a player.

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  • 3 blind miceJuly 13, 2013 - 11:22 am

    Was that his subject or what you could easily comprehend? I don't even think it would qualify as a predicate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dt3lSdGFPc LINK - Don't argue like this"

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  • funnyJuly 13, 2013 - 11:24 am

    wow

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  • waggyJuly 13, 2013 - 11:38 am

    I don't see what the big deal is. If the county was going to "save $300K", then the value of the labor and materials no longer needed, combined with the value of the land probably exceeded it. In this case, I view it as a tempest in a teapot. Move along people.

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  • 3 blind mice sez saysJuly 13, 2013 - 12:17 pm

    the guy can't even cite cases to support his claims what an idiot! As if there really is a cjp.ca.gov HA What a liar!

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  • EvelynJuly 13, 2013 - 12:32 pm

    @ 12:17 pm - Your meaning isn't clear (to me). Are you saying there is no cjp.ca.gov ?

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  • FranJuly 13, 2013 - 12:47 pm

    One time a friend of mine worked for a "net server" that provided customer service...he said that if someone asked to speak to a supervisor--his group would just takes turns changing their names and become the person the customer wanted to talk to--then they would laugh afterwards...maybe that is what he/she means...that although the site may exist...there is no one on the other side who cares.

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  • can't get nothing past FranJuly 13, 2013 - 1:26 pm

    Doh!

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  • FranJuly 13, 2013 - 1:44 pm

    lolololol...one of my more intelligent followers? Hey...lolololol

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  • can't get nothing past FranJuly 13, 2013 - 1:48 pm

    Hey I was magna cum laude! class of 2002

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  • FranJuly 13, 2013 - 1:47 pm

    ...when you get the courage to learn to spell "your"own name--it will be interesting which one of you crawled out from underneath the rocks...lolololol

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  • can't get nothing past FranJuly 13, 2013 - 1:59 pm

    What and end up like your uncle? Mam that is just plane willful goading at the risk of humnan life! Where is the art in that?

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  • can't get nothing past FranJuly 13, 2013 - 1:49 pm

    I hate evolutionists!

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  • can't get nothing past FranJuly 13, 2013 - 1:57 pm

    Nevertheless, the distinction that is overt, is one of us presents facts showing community tolerance of corrutpion, and the other nit pics for grammatical adjectives, that really don't have an affect other than creating fallacy for those who don't know how to detect it. That was a very educated note from an expert, imo.

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  • FranJuly 13, 2013 - 3:37 pm

    lololol...see how easy it is to make mistakes (wink)--I know youre typing along trying to make a point...and that one mistake happens...the "corruption" of the whole idea. Mistakes keep me humble...reminds me that im far from perfect. Im flattered...all these important issues...and you are wasting time on little ole me...lololol (the story about my uncle was true--both of them...well it wasnt pleasant...long long time ago. Justice...high profile politics...and a corrupt county...doesnt get any better than that...KC are ya watching--this ones going for an audition (...should I tell him there s no money?)

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  • can't get nothing past FranJuly 13, 2013 - 5:12 pm

    at this level of journalism spelling is a luxury. I was on the college paper and editors where there and in seconds they fixed the lot! But, in argument, maintaining dialectic are the rules of logic, where rhetoric is subjected abuse and fallacy...so more than grammar, I find that intellectual honesty is far more superiour a gift than grammar and spelling. I mean I know some people with strokes or who were born unable to appear normal. Yet they are brilliant, and I would never dare correct them when I actually can infer their good intent. I mean if your escaping a burning building and a mute person handles poorly written instructions, figure it out and get out of the building and thank him/her.

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  • FranJuly 13, 2013 - 5:41 pm

    see...you made me laugh...lololol

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