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Local couple survives Boston Marathon explosions

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A COUPLE hurries away from the bombing scene with a woman who appears slightly injured. Photo by L. Mark Payne

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Placerville audiologist L. Mark Payne and his wife Alison are looking forward to their return to the safety and “sleepiness” of Placerville. Alison Payne was running the Boston Marathon on April 15 and Mark was waiting for her at the finish line, camera in hand, when two explosions went off.

“All the people were cheering the finishers and the finishers were waving to us in the crowd when the deafening explosions went off and turned the whole event into a nightmare,” wrote Mark Payne in an e-mail to his friend and tennis buddy, Bill Schultz.

Payne reported that Alison was about five minutes behind her usual marathon pace and about a half mile from the finish line. “I was expecting her to finish about 4:10 and was poised with my camera at the finish line when the first bomb went off.” The explosion occurred off to Payne’s left. “I was just trying to figure out what happened when the second blast went off to my right.”

Payne and Cathy Tedesco, a friend from Folsom, had been standing together at the finish and were considering a move toward where the second blast eventually went off, to get better photos. “Thank God we stayed put and thank God Alison was a little slower that day,” wrote Payne.

Alison Payne had just missed qualifying for Boston in 2010, but in 2011, she made it. “The temperature was cold, but we could tell it was going to be a perfect day,” wrote Alison. “This was the Boston Marathon — just a name sends a sense of accomplishment.”

Alison tried not to go out too fast, but her excitement carried her to mile 16 where she was able to give Mark and Cathy a hug. “The crowd was incredible. Their cheers, songs, high fives and comments just pushed me along.” She slowed a bit after that because she didn’t feel well.

The cheers increased as she got closer to the finish line. But at mile 25.57 the runners started to stop and back up. “Gradually the word spread through the crowd — bomb at finish! Then the panic,” said Alison. ” People were lending cell phones to each other; some were crying, no one knew what was going on and what we should do.” Sirens screamed as ambulances and police raced to the finish line. Alison borrowed a cell phone but was unable to reach Mark.

Mark Payne, worried that Alison might still be running toward the bombed finish line, ran back down a side street paralleling the course. He had some debris in one eye, a cut on his cheek and one ear was deafened by the blast.

“The runners were all being held about a quarter mile back and more and more of them were coming in. I started asking people what their finish time would have been to narrow down where she might be.  I jumped up on a stanchion and saw her in the crowd and waved.”

Alison was considering jumping the fencing and running toward the finish line to find Mark when a woman tapped her on the shoulder and pointed to him waving. ” I ran over and hugged him tight and cried.”

After Mark filled her in on the horrific events, the Paynes walked a few miles to the houseboat they rented at the Boston Tea Party wharf, avoiding buses, landmarks and tall buildings along the way. Helicopters circled overhead, police cars, ambulances and fire trucks were everywhere. That night, the Coast Guard cruised near the wharf with all lights blazing.

Mark and Cathy had become separated in the crowd, but the Paynes received a text that she was safe and unhurt as they were walking. Texts and calls from family and friends who had heard about the blast began pouring in.

“It had been such a joyous occasion,” said Payne. “I spoke to supporters of loved ones from Australia, Europe and Canada and realized how this was the mecca of marathons for those who were fit enough to qualify and a dream for those of us not fast enough to qualify.”

The Paynes are coming home Saturday, but it’s been bittersweet to stay, said Mark. “Alison wears her marathon jacket and people come up and talk to her, but they are melancholy and it’s like no one thinks they should offer congratulations. Five blocks of the city is still blocked off and the police and National Guard are everywhere. A shopkeeper in the North End told us that usually there are parades and parties afterwards. The people here have been great and very kind, but there’s a real damper on everything.”

On Wednesday, the couple visited the memorial on Boylston Street for those killed and injured in the blast. They went to a museum where the explosions from the video reenactment of the Battle of Bunker Hill freaked Alison out. They tried to take their minds off the tragedy by walking Boston’s Freedom Trail, visiting the graves of patriots like Paul Revere, Samuel Adams and John Hancock.

“How ironic that we are reliving the lives of those who fought and died for our country’s freedom while evil people/terrorists are trying to take that freedom away,” wrote Payne.

The Paynes were able to pick up Alison’s finishers medal, despite not being able to finish. “The room where we picked it up is still full of the yellow bags of personal possessions that runners haven’t yet picked up,” said Mark. “Alison was crying when she got her medal and the man who handed it out wanted her to come back next year, but we won’t be doing that.”
“We pray for the healing of the victims and the long healing journey of the families of the three that were killed,” said Alison. “And for the healing of Boston. It is a special place and despite what these people did, it will always be so.”

Contact Wendy Schultz at 530 344-5069 or wschultz@mtdemocrat.net. Follow @wschultzMtDemo on Twitter.

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  • chrispytahoeApril 18, 2013 - 4:18 pm

    I grew up just outside Boston. Bostonians have an old (very old)saying; "we know 3 things in Boston: Politics, Sports and Revenge". Communities in New England are old fashioned, bucolic and tight knit. I hope some 'wicked pissa townie justice' will be brought down.

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  • chrispytahoeApril 18, 2013 - 4:32 pm

    It also is a little disturbing, although to be expected I suppose, how much people on the West Coast pay little attention to events in New York and Boston. I work in a public place and am amazed that on the day of the bombing, how many Californians barely gave a passing glance to the unfolding coverage on the TVs. I realize when it is not in your own back yard it is easy to feel complacent. But then again, West coast residents barely raise a flap when the fallout from Japan has bombarded their shores. I just suppose East Coasters are a little more educated and engaged...

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  • RedeldoradoApril 18, 2013 - 6:01 pm

    I am a West-coaster and myself and my family pay very close attention to what happens on the East Coast in regards to terrorism. We by no means intend to not be prepared should it hit here! I don't think for a second that we are or will be immune! I also do not think anyone should assume that West Coasters are not paying attention.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 18, 2013 - 9:03 pm

    "'Cowards' Billboard Lights Up Boston Skyline in Wake of Blasts "... the electronic billboard had rotated every 10 seconds between the "Cowards" sign and another that reads, "Pray for Boston."

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  • 1036-FrankApril 18, 2013 - 9:17 pm

    What this terrorist attack means is it is time to revamp our system of student visas and travel passports, based on the newly released FBI photos which appear to show the bombers as middle-eastern nationals possibly from Pakistan according to news sources. Most would think that post 911 our travel and immigration laws would of been greatly changed so that people from suspect countries aren't allowed in, however it appears the opposite happened, at the same time our borders must be finally secured first and foremost, after five years of nothing and promises of amnesty, people illegally in the country must be identified and background checked once and for all. Granting amnesty to people who entered our country illegally is not only rejected by 96% of us, per the Gallup Poll, it is a very dangerous idea to have non-background checked people by the millions in the country. This attack also has proven why law abiding US citizens have to protect themselves first, The Government and police can't, they are only reactionary. Our rights under our Constitution should not be infringed, The Gallup Poll also showed 96% of US citizens reject the gun grabbing leftists. I hope Washington will pay attention to what really matters in this country soon instead of these political stunts seen lately.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 18, 2013 - 9:28 pm

    I hope someone is listening 1036-Frank.

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  • oh brotherApril 19, 2013 - 10:41 am

    They are from Russia. They practice Muslim religion. What religion are the white supremacists? Not every terrorist is from Pakistan. Read the news to the end. They look pretty white to me. People keep feeding the anger and prejudice. Use facts please, stop spreading rumors. 1036 Frank is cop language so you are either retired or current LE and should know better than some of the comments you leave on this website. Not that I don't agree with some, but some of them are pretty much law enforcement attitude (poor attitude not the good attitude)

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  • 1036-FrankApril 19, 2013 - 12:02 pm

    It is senseless to see innocent lives taken by the result of our immigration system granting refugee status to people who are from Chechnya who are at war with Russia while at the same time we are fighting against similar and allied radical Jihadists in other parts of the world. Where these two received their training and who they have been in contact with in this conspiracy will be the focus soon. Excellent job by the law enforcement there. It is surprising to see these two didn't have plane tickets out of the country after these terrorist attacks if they had escaped to Russia there is no extradition. They must have been planning further attacks and were luckily derailed and I hope contained.

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  • DB SmithApril 19, 2013 - 2:59 pm

    The recent murders and maiming of innocent people @ the Boston Marathon is nothing less than terrorism. Some radio and TV talk refer to both of the scum terrorist as "these kids". Oh brother wonders and asks "what religion are the white supremacist?" and the Tahoe Yuppie shares his deep thoughts with us that he thinks East coasters are smarter and more engaged than West coasters. You frigin dip sh*ts! It is so obvious that you are so gone there is no hope for your kind. I truly feel sorry for you and our future victims.

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  • James E.April 19, 2013 - 5:07 pm

    Cops think it's him hiding in a boat in someone's backyard. Shootout going on. Cops want to get him alive if possible, he probably wants suicide by cop.

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  • James E.April 19, 2013 - 6:51 pm

    Captured alive.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 19, 2013 - 7:27 pm

    Mirandized?

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  • oh brotherApril 19, 2013 - 11:09 pm

    DB Smith - your unintelligent comments shows how far gone you are. You don't know me or my beliefs to even feel sorry for "my kind". Because of that you are a part of the problem. Friends of mine were there so I may know a little more than your smart alec self might.

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  • DB SmithApril 20, 2013 - 6:41 am

    Oh brother, you're the one who brought up the "what religion are the white supremacist?" and "they look pretty white to me" comments. Now on top of that you now say you had some friends there at the marathon so that makes you smarter than me. It was probably very disappointing to you to find out they were Muslim. Yep! I feel sorry for your dumb a*s.

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  • cookie65April 20, 2013 - 9:50 am

    “What religion are the white supremacists”? Bull Connor – democrat, George Wallace – democrat, Orval Faubus – democrat, Robert C. Byrd – democrat, Hugo Black – democrat, Jimmy Byrnes – democrat, Ernest Hollings – democrat, J. William Fulbright – democrat, Albert Gore Sr. – democrat, Sam Ervin – democrat, Richard Russell – democrat, Lester Maddox – democrat, The KKK – democrat, The Nazi party – socialists, sought to perfect the Arian race, Margaret Sanger – eugenics of inferior races (planned parenthood). Revisionist history only works on indoctrinated kids who don’t know any better.

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  • cookie65April 20, 2013 - 10:38 am

    The picture of this guy is all over the internet, but what he did while in the hospital hasn't been told enough. He may have been the person who led the FBI to finding the two cowards in the crowd who were practicing their religion. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151447731137713&set=a.83773297712.76437.80985802712&type=1&ref=nf

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  • James E.April 20, 2013 - 11:56 am

    Cookie, names from decades ago. How about the white supremacists in Idaho, circa 2013? What religion are they? Democrats? I'm not sure if there any Democrats in Idaho. My wife's family is from Idaho -- hard core Republican. Don't think they are white supremacists, but who knows in the dark of night?

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  • cookie65April 20, 2013 - 6:42 pm

    James, this is a picture taken in Grants Pass Oregon sometime in the early 20's. http://www.flickr.com/photos/curtdeath/4324624630/

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 6:53 pm

    LINK - Boston bombers - FBI hunting 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

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  • RachelApril 20, 2013 - 7:04 pm

    I grew up in Placerville and moved to Boston after college. I've lived here for the last 10 years and the Boston Marathon is one of the best days of the year. People from all over the world come together to celebrate dedication, determination, grit and stamina. My boyfriend and I were less than a block away from where the first blast went off, I have never experienced a sound like that in my life. I have never seen fear someone's face like I saw in those moments following the blasts, it was chaos. The events of the last week have been taxing to say the least - we are all emotionally and physically exhausted. As I read through the comments below I still see a lot of hate and ignorance - this is not what Boston or our world needs. I too am confused, sad, etc., and want answers but acting out in anger and hatred is not the way. Obama said, "we are not Democrats. We are not Republicans. We are Americans." I would take it one step further and say we are humans. And we should treat one another with decency and respect. As Winston Churchill said, "a society is judged by how it treats is least deserving of citizens."

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 8:09 pm

    LINK - Friends of accused Boston bomber are taken into custody in New Bedford, Mass. - The vanity plate on the front of the suspects' BMW SUV reads "TERRORISTA #1.

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  • James E.April 20, 2013 - 8:18 pm

    Phil, seems logical they didn't act on their own. It will be interesting to find out what the FBI can uncover. Re. license plate -- "Hello World, I want to be arrested."

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  • EvelynApril 20, 2013 - 8:23 pm

    Phil: You find the issuance of such a license plate credible? Certainly it wouldn't get past the DMV in Calif.

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  • James E.April 20, 2013 - 8:25 pm

    Cookie, I had no idea the KKK was a presence in Oregon in the 1920s. But, of course, how could I -- I hadn't been born yet. But, not surprising as prejudice has been around for a long, long time.

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  • James E.April 20, 2013 - 8:28 pm

    Could have been a front plate manufactured in a home workshop. Sure wouldn't fly in CA if a real state produced plate. Don't know MA plate standards.

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  • EvelynApril 20, 2013 - 8:31 pm

    Sorry, but that license plate really does not pass the smell test. Massachusetts DMV HERE - Vanity plates can be ordered for private passenger, commercial, motorcycle, livery, bus, camper or antique vehicles. All vanity plates must begin with two letters. The plate can be no more than six characters, or a maximum of five characters for motorcycle plates. Vanity plates cannot have letters and numbers intermixed. For example: "MY65MG."

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 8:53 pm

    Evelyn - silly question! OF COURSE THE DMV did not issue such a plate. Are you asking if the story is a fake? Clearly the plate is fake. Are you therefore concluding that arreats did not happen? We shall see.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 8:57 pm

    . . . very early into the article ". . . The men, identified by neighbors as 19-year-olds from Kazakhstan, drove around in a black BMW with the mock license plate, “TERROISTA #1.”

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  • EvelynApril 20, 2013 - 9:02 pm

    Ahhhhhhhhh. MOCK!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 9:05 pm

    LINK - Historical context linking Putin, Obama, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Al-Qaida - listen to at least the first 10 minutes – bottom of page – lower left

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  • EvelynApril 20, 2013 - 9:05 pm

    Having conceded that I didn't read the article, the story still stinks. Can you actually imagine in this day and age someone driving around with such a license plate? It reeks of shouting "Arrest me; arrest me."

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 9:25 pm

    RE: " . . . Can you actually imagine in this day and age . . . " Such an imagining is no more difficult than an imagining of planting a bomb at the feet of a child in an urban setting loaded with surveillance camera and walking away with hat turned backward bare faced. . . Are we are being lured? . . . again? . . .

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 10:20 pm

    A little over 8 minutes of audio – lower left – audio link - LINK – Chechnya(some historical context) . . . It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles(Sun Tzu)

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 11:06 pm

    LINK - The intersection of Boston and Chechnya - audio link lower left.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 20, 2013 - 11:40 pm

    LINK - Boston - The intersection of Putin, Obama and global jihad

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  • cookie65April 21, 2013 - 7:23 am

    Phil, didn't janet napolitano tell us how these two acted alone? As a country we have handed over the reigns of government to people who couldn't pour p*ss out of a boot with the instructions on the heal. We have an electorate who's primary concern in life is who will deliver the most benefits in exchange for my vote. The Romans called it "bread and circuses".

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  • cookie65April 21, 2013 - 7:30 am

    Rachel, if "hate and ignorance" is people connecting the reality of who and what did this, then what would you call two kids who have been given things by the citizens of this country that they could never dream of at home thanking us this way? Most of our problem is people who throw those words around without the slightest clue what the f&ck they are talking about.

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  • cookie65April 21, 2013 - 7:55 am

    Here is a sprinkle of leftist reality, the car these two carjacked had a "co-exist" bumper sticker on it.

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  • cookie65April 21, 2013 - 8:17 am

    There are 3 stories that have slid by (like useful information thru a leftists brain)(grass thru a goose) during all the chaos. 1. A young male from Saudi Arabia was taken into custody. 2. Young male from Saudi Arabia was to be deported. 3. obama had an unscheduled meeting with Saudi foreign minister.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 21, 2013 - 9:07 am

    Terrorista? isn't this Spanish...and the young people Russian? террористический terroristicheskiy "terrorist" to Russian

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  • cookie65April 21, 2013 - 9:23 am

    There are a couple of wonky types that post here who might find this worth the read. http://www.hudson.org/files/publications/Final04-05.pdf

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 21, 2013 - 11:06 am

    Cookie, regarding, “. . . the car these two carjacked . . . “. This “carjacking” needs clarification/explanation. Was the car pre-loaded with bombs, grenades, guns . . . implements of destruction? Curious! During that 24hrs one of the TV “assets” interviewed an auto-body shop owner who had interacted with whitecap dummy over a “Mercedes SUV” that “dummy” wanted to pick up for his “girlfriend”. Dummy had done business with this shop before. He was there a day or two after the bombing to pick up the Mercedes SUV. The shop owner said that he was not through working on it. Dummy insisted on picking up the car for his friend. WE are told that they carjacked a Mercedes SUV. We are told that the “carjacked” Mercedes suv’s owner was released and called the cops . . . . verrrrrry strange . . . .

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 21, 2013 - 11:30 am

    Gun control forces seek new path after big loss http://news.yahoo.com/gun-control-forces-seek-path-big-loss-152516059.html

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  • EvelynApril 21, 2013 - 12:06 pm

    Fran: Good catch about the language issue. However, террористический is less pronounceable!

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 21, 2013 - 1:41 pm

    from cnn this am - wolf blitzer - LINK - The police chief, Edward Deveau, describes how cops nearly apprehended the older suspect, and were placing handcuffs on him in the middle of the street Thursday night, when the younger suspect came at officers in a carjacked SUV. The cops were able "to dive out of the way," and the younger suspect then continued to drive directly over his brother and dragging him through the street. That's how the older suspect died, according to the police chief. . . . that front license plate (mock)is making more sense as this story ripens.

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  • cookie65April 21, 2013 - 3:45 pm

    Here is a video of some people who understand their Constitutional rights when crossing the boarder. Being cooperative does not mean waiving your rights. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmcaSN4AsQQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 21, 2013 - 9:03 pm

    Cookie - LINK - Irony Alert! Muslim Marathon Bombers Car-jacked Vehicle with “Coexist” Sticker!

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  • EvelynApril 22, 2013 - 6:53 am

    For consideration: HERE

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  • EvelynApril 22, 2013 - 6:56 am

    "Woman calling into radio show saying first suspect was run over and shot BY police" - HERE

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  • EvelynApril 22, 2013 - 7:06 am

    "Photos From The Suspects' Apartment" - HERE

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 22, 2013 - 7:31 am

    And thus it begins. The Boston-Was-An-Inside-Job narrative begins to assemble. For consideration:The “government casting director” needs to find an “actor” willing to lose both legs in false flag opps. Right. I’ve heard the saying, “costing an arm and a leg”. But really! This economy must be REALLY tough. For consideration: HAARP, chemtrails, 9/11 inside job, fake moon landing, FEMA camps are elements on the path to “self-radicalization”. InfoWars is an autoimmune disorder. . . . Alex Jones, take it away!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 22, 2013 - 8:03 am

    For consideration: HERE

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 22, 2013 - 5:49 pm

    Suburbs now playing a key role in gun legislation. http://news.yahoo.com/suburbs-now-playing-key-role-gun-legislation-205824530.html

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  • EvelynApril 23, 2013 - 6:18 am

    "Boston PD's Ed Davis Slips Up and Calls Suspects ACTORS" - HERE

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  • EvelynApril 23, 2013 - 6:32 am

    "Boston Terror Narrative Starts Falling Apart" - HERE

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 7:54 am

    Evelyn, from your "falling apart link" - ”We have no idea whether or not the Chechen brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were the Boston terrorists.” Ridiculous! There is, as your link demonstrates, an early developing internet narrative analogue to “9/11 truth” here. But the Boston evidence is SO STRONG that the effort to remanufacture Boston events into an alternate reality only nudges foreword the question, "If they are doing this to Boston now then perhaps they did this to 9/11truth via “Loose Change” et-al. Why propagate bull****, Evelyn? Are you actually giving the material at your link SERIOUS consideration??? People are being nudged toward “self-radicalization” through the InfoWars. Why manufacture “ammunition”, Evelyn? Dylan Avery and Jason Burmas have “self radicalized” more jihadists than Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and Dick Cheney put together.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 8:06 am

    testing????

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 8:18 am

    Evelyn, from your "falling apart link" - ”We have no idea whether or not the Chechen brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were the Boston terrorists.” Ridiculous! There is, as your link demonstrates, an early developing internet narrative analogue to “9/11TRUTH” for Boston. But the Boston evidence is SO STRONG that the effort to remanufacture Boston events into an alternate reality only nudges foreword the question, "If Info Warriors are doing this to Boston now then perhaps Info Warriors did this to 9/11TRUTH via “Loose Change” et-al. Why propagate disinformation, Evelyn? Are you actually giving the material at your link SERIOUS consideration??? People are being nudged toward “self-radicalization” through the InfoWars. Why manufacture “ammunition”, Evelyn? Dylan Avery and Jason Burmas have “self radicalized” more jihadists than Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib and Richard Cheney put together.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 9:39 am

    Please block out 6 minutes for this clip from this morning's "Imus in the morning", Fox (sorry) Business - LINK - What Turns Someone Radical? - FOX News national-security expert KT McFarland discusses whether the next threat to the U.S. is living inside its borders.

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  • James E.April 23, 2013 - 10:14 am

    Phil, per your recommendation, I watched the Imus clip (by the way, thanks for providing a LINK versus the www.qodkdiu/29387@$%^#/?? which drives me crazy). It appears the family got religion, unfortunately the radical part. Sadly, it will happen again with others and, in our war against terror, we can only expect more of the same. After all, it's a war.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 10:41 am

    James, what is MOST disturbing is the sad FACT that a huge segment of our friends, family and neighbors buy into at least some elements of "9/11-was-an-inside-job" manufactured disinformation Alex Jones InfoWars mind poisoning Tokyo Rose propiganda.

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  • James E.April 23, 2013 - 10:53 am

    Phil, it's simple -- Alex Jones makes big bucks being Tokyo Rose. Inflame his readership and watch the money cascade into his accounts. It's his business model.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 11:08 am

    EXACTLY, James! Art Bell was a pioneer in that genre of “entertainment/alternate info” industry. In Art Bell’s day it was fun to tune into his secret base located somewhere in the Nevada wilderness and hear about the “truth” behind UFOs, big foot, Illuminati . . . . He was the pioneer. George Ralph Noory has taken over from Art with “Coast to Coast”. Alex Jones takes it to another level. Unfortunately the rush to create “truth” has poisoned the well. We’re screwed.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 11:14 am

    . . . but, HEY! I love late night with George Noory's Coast to Coast. I love ghost stories around the camp fire . . . Alex Jones is a cheap knock-off – He makes oodles of bucks, but a poor knock off of Art Bell.

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  • EvelynApril 23, 2013 - 12:49 pm

    How has Alex Jones found weight in these exchanges?

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 12:58 pm

    Alex Jones is just one among the MULTITUDE of hucksters "discovering" (creating) "BostonTruth.org" just For consideration:. NOTE:(in case you need it) - to the best of my knowledge "BostonTruth.org" does not exist. "BostonTruth.org" is an analogue to the "9/11truth" disinformation industry

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  • EvelynApril 23, 2013 - 1:08 pm

    Keep us posted on BostonTruth.org when it makes it's appearance!

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  • EvelynApril 23, 2013 - 1:09 pm

    . . . its appearance.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 23, 2013 - 4:17 pm

    I've listened to your "actor" link, Evelyn. Most likely the police chief's use of the word "actor" is truncated - leaving off "bad". - - - bad actor , black marketeer, blackmailer, con, convict, crook, culprit, delinquent, desperado, deuce, evildoer, ex-con, felon, fugitive, gangster, guerilla, heavy*, hood, hoodlum, hooligan*, hustler, inside person, jailbird, lawbreaker, malefactor, mobster, mug, muscle*, offender, outlaw, racketeer, repeater, scofflaw, sinner, slippery eel, thug*, transgressor, trespasser, wrongdoer, yardbird

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 24, 2013 - 11:33 am

    BREAKING - NYT REPORTING: - LINK - But he was angry that the world pictures Islam as a violent religion.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 28, 2013 - 3:22 pm

    Evelyn, on April 20, 2013 - 9:05 pm you asked, ”Can you actually imagine in this day and age someone driving around with such a license plate? “ More information on these chaps continues to accumulate, or, perhaps from the “BostonTruth.org” perspective, The government media complex manufactures new “evidence” in their continuing effort to obfuscate the roll of the government elite false flag covert Boston operations. . . . LINK - Owners of 'Terrorista #1' BMW license plate revealed as the SAME friends pictured with the Boston bomber in Times Square

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  • EvelynApril 28, 2013 - 5:29 pm

    Information? Misinformation? Disinformation?

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  • EvelynApril 28, 2013 - 5:39 pm

    "The worldwide Church of the Evening News" - HERE

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 28, 2013 - 7:15 pm

    Evelyn, you list, "Information? Misinformation? Disinformation?" Using every fiber of you personal intuition how would you rank the three beginning with MOST LIKELY.

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  • EvelynApril 28, 2013 - 7:35 pm

    On this I'd have to register a "no opinion".

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 28, 2013 - 8:25 pm

    In persuit of "reality" you ask three questions and then excuse yourself from the "collective conscience"? I press because the road to "self radicalization" is marked. If a person believes David Ray Griffin he might become a radical. If a person believes Jesse Ventura he might become a radical. If a person believes Jason Burmas he might become a radical. If a person believes that THIS GOVERNMENT blew up WTC 7, the Pentagon . . . all of 9/11 he might become a radical. The road to radicalization is littered with the logic of doubt triggering questions. The Boston bomber’s mother found her “truth” on the internet. If a person believes that THIS is government manufactured disinformation he might become a radical. If one cannot discern the likely difference between Information? Misinformation? Disinformation? then one ought not pose such doubt generating questions. You might inadvertently motivate.

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  • EvelynApril 28, 2013 - 9:07 pm

    Good grief!!!

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 28, 2013 - 9:46 pm

    Indeed!

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  • Phil VeerkampMay 01, 2013 - 4:36 pm

    The puzzlement over the question of, Information? Misinformation? Disinformation? seems to be swing heavily in favor of Information - - - LINK - 3 pals of Boston Marathon bombing suspect charged with coverup

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  • EvelynSeptember 16, 2013 - 8:47 pm

    Strangely, this AP article concerning today's Washington Navy Yard shooting, is dated 15 September.

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