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McClintock’s dichotomy: Choice between freedom or socialism

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CONGRESSMAN TOM McCLINTOCK, R-Elk Grove, speaks to a meeting of the El Dorado County Chamber of Commerce Aug. 14 at Henry's Steakhouse in the Red Hawk Casino. Democrat photo by Pat Dollins

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In a short presentation that covered a number of topics, Congressman Tom McClintock declared Americans are faced with some difficult choices when he spoke before the El Dorado County Chamber of Commerce on Aug. 14.

We’re at a crossroads, he said. Either return to American founding principles of individual liberty, constitutional and limited government, and personal responsibility or fade into history as another failed European state.

However, all is not lost, said McClintock, who reminded the audience that past examples of bipartisan cooperation helped get the country back on track, in part, by removing the burden imposed by the government on the economy and the American people.

All the problems we are seeing are the predictable result of certain policies and those policies can be changed, he said, pointing to North Dakota as one of the bright spots in the country because of its booming economy and low unemployment rate.

It is all the result of oil from the Bakken Oil Field with the reserves there estimated to be 3.5 billion barrels, said McClintock. But it’s happening on private lands that are outside the regulatory control of the federal government.

In California, the Monterey Shale oil reserve is estimated to hold 15.5 billion barrels of recoverable oil, but unfortunately it’s in a state where regulations make it impossible to recover, he continued. Our state is full of resources like oil, gold and timber. At the same time, those trying to reopen gold mines have been systematically stymied by acts of government and the same thing is happening with the forests. A policy of benign neglect towards our forests has devastated the economy in the region, brought on ferocious fires, and made forests more subject to diseases, he said.

Once again, these are not acts of God, they are acts of the government and the good news is that’s within the public’s power to change, he added.

Proceeding from there, McClintock went on to identify other issues in California and Washington, D.C., that could result in significant economic and political damage.

AB32, the Global Warming Solutions Act signed by Gov. Schwarzenegger, is supposed to regulate greenhouse gases. But what this policy is about to do to commerce is frightening, he said, as it calls for the radical reduction of carbon dioxide emissions.

The unemployment numbers have already gone up substantially since AB32 was passed, he said. “I have talked to two oil refiner executives, and by 2015 they will have to shut down because of AB32. And that’s just one sector of the economy. There are also implications for the wine industry, agriculture and other industries such as cement production.”

This is a train wreck headed for California and it will be devastating, he predicted.

McClintock also criticized passage of Proposition 30 which levies extra taxes on what he called “filthy rich people” who earn over $250,000. Gov. Brown thinks passage of the bill solves his budget problems, but revenues are now declining because many are leaving the state.

“We’ve had a net domestic out-migration of 2.3 million people in the last 10 years,” he said, and the impact has been substantial. “You not only lose what they would have spent in the state but also the income taxes they would have paid since the state is highly dependent on income taxes from the wealthy to stay afloat.”

McClintock said another disaster in the making is Obamacare and President Obama’s assertion that he has the authority to nullify acts he finds inconvenient or objectionable.

The whole purpose of the office of president is to faithfully execute the laws, he said, and now Obama is picking and choosing and we don’t know which laws will or won’t be imposed. The House has tried 40 different times to repeal Obamacare and has been unsuccessful, so now it is considering defunding it.

McClintock said AB32 and Obamacare are examples of policies driven by ideological extremism. They are completely unworkable and will collapse of their own weight, but will do tremendous damage in the process.

McClintock also took President Obama to task for asserting he has the authority to commit an act of war against another country that hasn’t attacked us — in this case Libya. But he has no authority to commit an act of war.

“That’s a very, very dangerous thing,” he added, saying he has joined a resolution in the House to inform the president that he needs Congress’ approval to go to war and that crossing that line again would be considered an impeachable offense. So far the resolution has been held back in the House.

Equally dangerous is the role that government regulatory agencies have assumed, said McClintock. They are imposing laws that elected officials have refused to impose. “This is dangerous. The genius of the Constitution is that it divided powers. When a regulatory agency writes a rule, it’s indistinguishable from a law so they are assuming the legislative function. When they enforce the rule, they are taking on the executive function. If you run afoul of the rule, you face an administrative law court which usurps the judicial function. So regulatory agencies are combining all the powers our founders tried to divide.”

Moving on to resource development, McClintock said there is a concerted effort to push people off public lands and to prohibit commercial activities on them. In Yosemite National Park, he noted that camping and recreational facilities are being removed as are iconic stone bridges that have been there since the 1920s. Recently U.S. Fish and Wildlife proposed restricting access to 2 million acres in the Sierra Nevada as critical habitat for the Yosemite Toad and the Sierra mountain yellow-legged frog, even though what’s decimating them are trout who eat the frogs and a fungus that attacks the toads.

However, the public is starting to say it won’t take it anymore, he said. “We held a town hall meeting in Sonora and 400 people showed up. People are standing up and saying they want their constitution back, their economy back and their freedom back.”

The solution is for people to “agitate, agitate, agitate” and become part of the debate about the future of the country. Do what you can to sound the alarm, he urged. Write letters to the editor, Tweet, post on Facebook, speak up a forums, and forward articles you find interesting to friends.

Quoting President Reagan, he said the U.S. Constitution is not the government’s document telling us what we can and can’t do. It’s the people’s document telling our government those things we will allow it to do.

Contact Dawn Hodson at 530-344-5071 or dhodson@mtdemocrat.net. Follow @DHodsonMtDemo on Twitter.

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  • Dink LaneAugust 20, 2013 - 12:08 pm

    Is this where he said -- "Banks and Wall Street didn't commit a crime because they didn't USE A GUN."?........... Oh, no that was at the El Dorado Hills town hall meeting..

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  • Dink LaneAugust 20, 2013 - 12:15 pm

    McClintock has received $3.1 million in campaign contributions.... He received around $50,000 total from the District's voters.... He talked about ND Oil -- He got $140,800 total from them.... He talked about "Health Care" -- He got $127,672 from HC Insurance...... The ONLY bills he has worked on.... Kern County/Agribusiness water.... He got $149,950 from them....... Did McClintock say ANYTHING about what was good for El Dorado County residents?.... According to his FEC filings he only got $29,100 from EDC residents .... so he's not focused on EDC

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  • Kirk MacKenzieAugust 20, 2013 - 12:55 pm

    Dink -- What is more valuable to Rep. McClintock, dollars or votes?

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 1:35 pm

    Kirk's is still pondering chicken vs. egg.

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  • Dink LaneAugust 20, 2013 - 2:20 pm

    MOst Important to TOM? Getting reelected..... What did he do with the $3.1 million?...... He didn't spend it on Campaigning here..... He passed those $$$$ to other "R" legislators...... so they vote for his Chairmanship...... Water & Power...... Now think what is the Biggest Water & Power issue we have in EDC???? Sorry, you're wrong..... It's the DELTA PLAN.... and every legislation TOM has introduced GIVES more water rights to Kern County Farmers (Read the Merced River Bill.... Water to go to the SJ Water Agency group = Westlands.).... NOT EDC or Alpine or Tuolumne counties....that he represents..... After all we don't pay attention.... Flashy object; flashy object

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  • Kirk MacKenzieAugust 20, 2013 - 2:27 pm

    Dink -- I'll take that as "votes". I agree. The biggest threat to Rep. McClintock is a *viable* challenger dedicated to doing a better job of representing us constituents. One step in that direction is identifying a "greatest hits" LTE that itemizes the votes our "representative" has taken that are contrary to the interests of us constituents.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 2:47 pm

    Dink & Kirk - The Delta plan delivers more water WITHOUT requiring more storage releases (Shasta, Oroville, Folsom . . . etc) The increase in delivery to the California Aquiduct/Banks pump station is realized by eliminating the need to "push back the salt" by excess release of fresh water. Delta farmers can still be delivered ag water from the tunnels. More deliverable water without increased releases = increase in south water rights. Our water right ARE BEING PROTECTED.

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 3:28 pm

    Phil, the egg had to come first. No way a fully grown chicken could just appear. But, the yucky stuff in an egg could arise from the primeval ooze.

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 3:41 pm

    Ms Hodson, why did you leave out the famous Wall Street cannot commit a crime unless they use a gun comment?

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 3:45 pm

    James, I'm not advancing the 10,000 years ago creation thing. But some do. In that scenario it may have been a tie. A chicken "poofed" into existence pre loaded with eggs. Tie goes to the rooster.

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  • Kirk MacKenzieAugust 20, 2013 - 3:45 pm

    Phil -- good point. If Dink, et al, can't come up with a valid greatest hits list, there is no reason to vote to replace Rep McClintock.

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 3:54 pm

    Phil, so your position is that a chicken poofed into existence filled with eggs 6,000 years ago. Well, it's possible, even though I've never seen a chicken poofed.

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    ADDED: Wait, if a chicken can be poofed, why have eggs? Just poof them.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 4:13 pm

    Bed time, James.

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  • Pat SnellingAugust 20, 2013 - 4:14 pm

    Phil, we have to keep FIGHTING to keep our water rights. McClintock's bill HR 1837 specifically passed "water rights" issues to the Federal level. (Senate didn't vote on it.) EID fought the State Water Resources Control Board & Westlands Water Agency in a long court battle that went all the way to the Appellate court to "keep" their Senior-water rights. The recent documents filed by the Delta Stewardship Council calls for "Use-it or Lose-it" changes in California's water rights.

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  • Pat SnellingAugust 20, 2013 - 4:20 pm

    About the water storage and Salt-water levels in the Delta: Westlands has their own storage "San Luis Unit," the reservoir near Los Banos (Anderson Pea Soup on I-5). Shasta is a Federal storage and is used to hold off salt-water. By taking fresh water out of Sacramento River just below Sacramento (City of Hood) they don't have to fight the salt-water intrusion in their pumps. The sign of salt-water-Smelt in their screens. Pumping near Sacramento -- the salt and smelt don't go that far up. DELTA FARMERS -- down stream of the new pumps -- They will lose their fresh water levels with the Sacramento pumps. They are very upset about the Delta Plan.

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  • cookie65August 20, 2013 - 4:24 pm

    Roosters came first.

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 4:27 pm

    Phil, no, I cannot sleep when it's still light out, even if I count poofed chickens.

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  • cookie65August 20, 2013 - 4:28 pm

    Did McClintock dare to speak of eliminating entire government agencies? If he didn't, I don't count him as being on the side of the Constitution. I count him as being on the side of BIG government.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 4:30 pm

    Yes, Pat. 100% agreement. We'll always have to fight to keep our water. BUT . . .we can not just "keep our water". And here is the rub. We have to use it. We have to grow. Some, using various emotional arguments and some practical arguments of "traffic" "keep it rural" etc would rather lose our water than grow. We will not be allowed the lugury of keeping our water without beneficial use. Use it or lose it. It will be a fight as long as other people see unused water up north.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 4:32 pm

    luxury

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  • Pat SnellingAugust 20, 2013 - 4:51 pm

    Phil, I agree

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 5:01 pm

    Cookie, McClintock is on the side of himself. I cannot see how Republicans tolerate him.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 5:38 pm

    Cookie, have you seen this one - LINK - California Wants Small-Business Owners To Pay Back $120 Million In Tax Breaks

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 6:15 pm

    Phil, it seems to me that if they complied with the tax law as it was then written, they should be grandfathered. But, of course, the Franchise Tax Board is not known for its compassion. Hopefully, the bill giving relief will pass and be signed.

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  • cookie65August 20, 2013 - 7:17 pm

    Yes Phil, I saw it. There is a gigantic hole called public sector pension debt and nothing is off limits to try and fill it.

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  • cookie65August 20, 2013 - 7:30 pm

    James, I say the same thing about obama everyday. obama is on the side of himself. I cannot see how dimocrats tolerate him. The difference being McClintock is a member of the house of Representatives and doesn't have the destructive powers obama has. McClintock hasn't cost this country $6trillion in debt in the last 4 1/2 years, he hasn't added record numbers of people to welfare and foodstamps, he hasn't used the IRS or the NSA against law abiding American citizens, he hasn't created a healthcare disaster, he hasn't turned full time employment into part-time employment, he hasn't created one disaster after another with his foreign policy, he hasn't taken this country backwards 30 years in race relations, he hasn't jailed some guy over a video in order to cover up the deaths of 4 Americans over weapons to terrorists, he hasn't made the middle class worse off, he hasn't expanded the gap between the have's and the have-nots, OBAMA HAS.

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  • cookie65August 20, 2013 - 7:35 pm

    Phil, here is California government at its best. Those in charge of making schools safe from bullying have done nothing in the 4- years since the legislation was passed. Not to worry though, their lifetime taxpayer funded pensions and healthcare are secure. http://www.kcra.com/Audit-faults-California-s-anti-bullying-enforcement/-/11798090/21547776/-/injq2gz/-/index.html

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  • cookie65August 20, 2013 - 7:41 pm

    James, another thing McClintock hasn't done is make it to were welfare pays better than a job. Making people useless, dependent and stupid, leftists progress. http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/welfare-pays-better/

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 7:45 pm

    Do people make more money on welfare than they would on a job. How much do they make on welfare?

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  • robertdnollAugust 20, 2013 - 7:47 pm

    to guarantee we have unlimited water we need to use as much of the water supply that is local in order to promote competition,the cornerstone of our freedoms.If we can entice Arrowhead and Calistoga Springs to compete against EID for our bath water everybody wins

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 7:52 pm

    Cookie, my goodness President Obama has been a busy, busy President. He has caused everything bad about American since January 2009. Well, if he's a Muslim Commie faux President from Kenya, what should we expect?

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  • James E.August 20, 2013 - 7:54 pm

    And, McClintock hasn't done any of those things because he has been too busy making fools of the Tea Party while he supports all his contributors.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 8:03 pm

    James, go outside and enjoy another blue moon - LINK - Tonight’s “alternative” Blue Moon

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 20, 2013 - 8:07 pm

    . . . . and besides all what Cookie says and in addition to obummer's corruption it was under his reign of incompetence that Kim Kerr came to EDC. Blame 'er on the bummer.

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 7:53 am

    Here you go James, more profitable to stay on welfare than it is to find a job. The compassion of leftists. http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/20/study-welfare-pays-more-than-work-in-most-states/

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 7:57 am

    I wonder if the chem weapons Syria is using say "Made In Iraq" on them. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/21/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE97K0EL20130821

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 8:06 am

    Waiting for obama to tell us "if he had a son".....or any of the race hustlers to boycott Oklahoma because some white kid jogging down the street stopped the bullet fired by some bored black kids. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/man-who-dobbed-in-suspects-accused-of-murdering-melbourne-baseball-player-chris-lane-says-his-son-was-next/story-fni0fiyv-1226700172461

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  • MorrisAugust 21, 2013 - 8:16 am

    Wow. So 2.3 million have left the state over the last 10 years? Good thing they got our early before that tax increase on their 250k filthy rich income came into play. Guess Tom must have warned them. Or maybe they were just fleeing his taxing ROBOCALLS. Now...are Californians REALLY leaving their friends, families and homes in some HR Block Death March? Ok..maybe a few. But where did they go? To what reduced to no tax haven have our neighbors been raptured too?? Couldn't it just be the fact that the majority left for other reasons? Say, for example, the impact of the burst housing bubble on construction jobs? Or maybe the huge waive of baby boomers retiring and setting their sites on a mobile home site at Del Boca Vista Phase II in sunny Big Skeeter, Florida? Or the far more likely story: The Lemming Effect. I moved to Texas right at the peak of the oil boom crash and can see some similar patterns to the situation here today. While the crash here was no where near as severe as Dallas 1988, people then - just as now - played into fact a tremendous amount of fear. And many made decisions to walk just because everyone else was. The u-haul dealer was salivating at a truck coming in state. I was salivating over the brand new townhouse I purchased on my American Express card. Doom and gloom it was and things would never be right again in Texas real estate. Until...we...got...IINVADED. By Californians. In masse. During the boom years I might add. Why? Because they could trade in their 300k 1400 sq ft box for a 180k 4000 sq ft Tara on The Tollway. Plano and Frisco, Texas....the new Really Southern California. Even back home in North Carolina, same thing in Cary (Containment Area for Relocated Yankees) went from farms to fashion malls overnight. And the Californians pronounced it good. And more soon would follow. Fast forward 6 - 12 months later when they find out you have to run your AC 9 months of the year at about 900 a month, the discovery that those low low to no income taxes = sky high property taxes that can go up up up every year and the charming little problem of no licensing of contractors and builders can often mean that darling McMansion just split in two from the slippery expanding / contracting clay soil it was improperly built upon. Tom's scare tactics are nothin but his own personal PacMan goatscrew. Guess who he sees as the goat?

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 8:43 am

    Morris, why do you describe successful people as "filthy"? People like you have no regard for private property rights. Private property rights are the basis of ALL freedom. Demonize those who create the wealth while praising those who confiscate it and give to those unwilling to provide for themselves. You illustrate the foundation of leftism. An evil, disgusting, depraved political system and ideology based on all the worst elements of human nature.

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 9:04 am

    2 months later the US still doesn't know what Snowden took. Not to worry 1/2 wit obama voters, even the NSA doesn't have access to obama's college transcripts. http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/20/20108770-us-doesnt-know-what-snowden-took-sources-say?lite

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  • rodAugust 21, 2013 - 9:21 am

    Ponder this, If McClintock's name was Kennedy or Feinstein, the exquisite message laid out by Hodson's letter would turn the left on it's head. When folks can dump the idiocy of party line think and let common sense emerge we may actually become less destructive to our future. Lest we forget, Obama, in 2008 in a poorly reasoned gesture of 'statesmanship' gave California's share of the Colorado river to Mexico, thus forcing the Tunnels project which WILL destroy the largest fresh water estuary of the America's Pacific Coast. The twin tunnels will accelerate salt water intrusion already moving in from incremental sea level rise. Sacramento wells will have to be desalinated with a tremendous loss of native flora and fauna throughout the Sacramento delta basin. Forget the myth of "bi-partisan" resolution and go with NO-PARTY solutions. The real challenge for Calif and the nation is can we ever be objective again, or are we destined for destruction by man made ideology?

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 21, 2013 - 11:19 am

    swerving off track - Just in from Rev. Jackson regarding sport killing by bored black kids - "Praying for the family of Chris Lane. This senseless violence is frowned upon and the justice system must prevail. - ~~~~ http://twitchy.com/2013/08/21/jesse-jackson-totally-frowns-upon-thrill-killing-of-student-by-bored-teens/ ~~~~ frowns upon . . . hmmm . . .

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 11:43 am

    Try them as adults and fry them. Oh, they don't fry in OK -- then life without parole. That should stop the one killer from laughing.

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 11:43 am

    Phil, I frown upon people cutting in line. The senseless slaughter of innocent people for sport somehow seems a tad bit more excessive than someone cutting in line. I am surprised he (the revrund jessu jackson) took time away from his diversity awareness profiteering to bother to make mention of an event that he can't use to further his extortion racket.

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 12:24 pm

    James, I don't know if you ever read Camille Paglia, but she is an icon for those who see themselves as more classical liberals (nod to Evelyn). She is a writer and a upper west side self proclaimed intellectual. She influences the thinking of many people who typically aren't capable of their own thoughts. She is questioning why in the world the dims would rank the beast as her parties best chance at keeping the Whitehouse. http://www.salon.com/2013/08/21/camille_paglia_it_remains_baffling_how_anyone_would_think_that_hillary_clinton_is_our_party’s_best_chance/

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 12:32 pm

    Phil, Alan West wants to know who oblamo will identify with on the entertainment killing of the white jogger. http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/allen-west-on-bored-teen-murderers-who-will-president-obama-identify-with-in-this-case/

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 12:52 pm

    Cookie, please, Alan West is a nut case. But, to answer the question: President Obama will identify with the prosecutor.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 1:07 pm

    Cookie, I have heard of her, but have never read any of her work. Hillary will be the nominee and will be elected to the Presidency. Voters from women, Asians, African Americans, Latinos, gay/lesbians, Social Security/Medicare recipients, the poor, and finally me (and others like me) will make it an easy win for her. I'm sorry that Tea/Republicans have put themselves out of the race by their policy of NO in reaction to President Obama, trying to win the battle but losing the war. But, as I've said before, I thank them.

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  • JustsayinAugust 21, 2013 - 1:11 pm

    McClintock's dichotomy: The fiscal hawk said on the record he would not collect a state pension. But he is, anyway. When asked why, he said that's a question for Mrs. McClintock. Arrogance. He now collects a small pension on top of his congressional salary. Discusting.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 1:18 pm

    A carpetbagger packing sand on the Tea Party, and they love him for it.

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 1:22 pm

    James, I notice how you also divide people into groups. Do you ever just see Americans? Will the campaign strategy of the beast be that she is not obama? Don't forget James she was also the chosen one in 2008 and got beat by a community organizer who had more symbolism to offer than she did. Read the leftist bible James, the new york times, those who label themselves as "true progressives" don't want anything to do with the clintons. They want chief spreading bull. Obama got away with pure symbolism because he was unknown and successfully made any critique about him racist. The beast doesn't have that advantage and has a mountain of baggage and a track record of failure to contend with. I realize how dependent the left is on low-information voters but even the obama voters who don't know which ocean is on the west coast of America know about the beast's baggage.

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  • R.J. CarterAugust 21, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    Cookie...In an earlier post you were curious as to what takes to have someone committed who is obviously insane...I'm quite not sure, but I've got a large net in the garage and if you can just keep James distracted for a minute we can find out....The beast as our next Prez, that's a good one!!...LOL..

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 1:44 pm

    RJ, I choked laughing at that one. Perhaps I could distract him with a pre-recorded witch cackle, when he looks to see if it's the beast you could net him.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 1:46 pm

    Cookie we will just have to see who is elected in 2016. The proof is in the pudding.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 1:49 pm

    R.J., and Cookie, I was examined by a psychiatrist and declared as normal as apple pie, motherhood, and the American way. How did you two do in your mental exams?

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 1:53 pm

    Tips on passing with a high score: Profess your love of your mother -- any negative feelings about your mother may cause failure of the exam. When shown pictures of knives, express how they cut warm loaves of bread. Finally, do not get into an argument with the doctor. Positive feelings only.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 21, 2013 - 1:56 pm

    RJ, nets are nice. Darts are dandy.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 2:01 pm

    Let me remind everyone about the last election in which there was no need to count the votes as Mitt was a runaway winner. Someone on this site predicted that President Obama would be the winner. Someone? Oh, right, me. So given that prediction, the 2016 prediction is easy.

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  • R.J. CarterAugust 21, 2013 - 2:02 pm

    Phil...Darts!! I like it, yeah, that's the ticket....&...James, I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested....

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 2:04 pm

    R.J., we don't like to use the term crazy. Better is detached from reality or severely disturbed.

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  • R.J. CarterAugust 21, 2013 - 2:20 pm

    James I'm certainly not detached from reality or severely disturbed, though I have been known to go bat cr*p crazy on occasion...I guess It's my mother's fault for not getting a second opinion...

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 3:26 pm

    Phil, this is another one the leftist, lapdog, kneepad Obama media has ignored. Guess what race the 5 (five) suspects are? http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=11371274

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 3:49 pm

    Cookie, ah, Irish?

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  • Lynn B.August 21, 2013 - 4:20 pm

    Typical Dawn Hodson article. Full of opinions masking as facts. And not one word about socialism! I wonder if she knows that forms of Socialism are working very well in Europe---and have been working very well right here in the USA--try SOCIAL Security, for example, or Medicare--want grandma to give it up so YOU can pay her medical bills? These ultra right wing assertions that we are losing our freedoms to "Socialism" are just flat out WRONG. We are losing our freedoms to corporations, who are buying our elections, who care nothing about clean water that we drink, or safe working conditions, or livable working wages. They care only about profits. Capitalism is great...to a point. Too much of anything is not healthy. Focus on people, not profits. Then maybe we can learn to live together in relative harmony. What a concept! And oh! BTW, the budget in CA is now balanced. It's a good start and way ahead of the rest of the country!

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 4:44 pm

    KCRA is reporting the bunny ranch sign in Camino is coming down. http://www.kcra.com/news/bunny-ranch-billboard-near-placerville-comes-down-amid-protests/-/11797728/21565334/-/74pgh1z/-/index.html

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 4:46 pm

    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”--Winston Churchill

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  • MorrisAugust 21, 2013 - 5:01 pm

    Cookie ??? Are we a bit overbaked today? The reference to 'filthy rich' was pulled as a direct quote from Tom. It's in the article. As for the rest...ROFLMAO. Cookie, how can I say this with any degree of modesty....umm. Ok, I'm successful. A 1% guy who drives a wicked european mid-life crisis car that goes from 0 to vulgar in 3.9 supercharged and ozone killin seconds. So in most all things, I am anything but subtle.....your remarks made a few folks I know blow up my phone for the characterization. More accurately is that I believe in free enterprise (small business for over 10 years) and prior to that was VP of a fortune 100 corporation. So I know how and what works to drive our economy: Consumption. And Greed. In moderate to slightly accelerated environments, each is actually a good thing. When counterbalanced with our responsibility to return a portion of the spoils gained towards social improvement initiatives that are bigger than ourselves, capitalism is a beautiful thing. So you'll get no arguments from me on creating wealth and the 'right' of keeping it. What IS at times is that we are out of balance. WAY out of balance. That dont make me a yellow dog liberal bent on grabbing your cookies, Cookie. We do not pay anywhere near our share in relation to what we consume. And that's just for the basic stuff like roads, SSI, schools, Cops and Firefighters. No pork - dem or rep - included. We Americans got it EASY. Even the poorest of our poor are FAT...a concept alone that many on this planet cannot even grasp as a possible reality) But in my opinion, we are the last generation (40+) that gets to dine and dash on our bill. Things will be very different for our kids and grandkids. The booms created by all those booms of WWII are but an echo now. Replaced by two something's we fundamentally do not know how to do: Compete and Downsize our expected standard of living. (Or, rather, theirs since we 'll be retired on their dime while they simultaneously are paying the real and true costs of their own net consumption.)

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 5:11 pm

    Lynn, was it the Koch brothers or citizens united or some other evil corporations that bought obama's election over Romney, or was it the trillion dollars in entitlements (other people's money)? NOT counting the vote fraud and IRS suppression of free speech and votes.

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 5:20 pm

    Morris, one thing has grown out of proportion over the last 50 years. Government. It has become unaffordable. And now we are facing the tsunami of public sector legacy costs that politicians and unions have used against the American taxpayers to buy power with. They are going to break the bank and all we have to show for it are failing schools, failing infrastructure, failing government oversight, failing government bleeding the taxpayers dry. Either we dismantle huge segments of government or we just ride the ship to the bottom.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 21, 2013 - 5:35 pm

    Missouri evening - cicadas , fireflies, cool but muggy, evening chores done (not by me), everything is green, doves singing end of day, no forest fires ------ ought to stay ------ local paper gripes about some sort of insider dealing nearby ---- crap!!!

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 5:47 pm

    Cookie, while I admire Winston he was probably drunk out of his mind when he said that.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 5:53 pm

    I forgive McClintock for saying "filthy rich." I don't think he really means the rich are filthy and in need of a shower and some baby powder for chafing. Just a common phrase meaning really, really, really rich.

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  • cookie65August 21, 2013 - 6:00 pm

    James, speaking of mental instability. algore seems to be oblivious to the fact that there were 3,000 low temperature records broken in July. His fraud must still be profitable. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/08/21/al-gore-explains-why-hes-optimistic-about-stopping-global-warming/

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 21, 2013 - 6:25 pm

    Rim Fire Threatens 2,500 Structures Near Yosemite...There are 10 major wildfires burning in California, and the Rim Fire is among the largest.

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  • robertdnollAugust 21, 2013 - 7:30 pm

    "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" little errors in comprehension can result in catastrophe for the innocent

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  • MorrisAugust 21, 2013 - 7:31 pm

    Cookie, in more ways than one may think, I agree with your statement. More agree than disagree. But here's the rub: a nagging feeling that many ultra conservatives have been fed a bill of goods. That you may (emp. 'May') have been lied to, intentionally deceived and manipulated into an agenda that is anything but what you have the belief (and right) to stand for. If I'm correct, it's the most elegant hosejob ever pulled off on a nation sized mark since 1930's Germany. A complete reversal of what was GOOD into what is now BAD. How many of us had standup fathers who showed up everyday at the widget plant stamping out hoopachews for 30 years before retiring to an honorable 7.5 year made in the USA union pension? Or the Fireman we call Heros for risking their lives and - if making it to retirement - bingo before seeing out the decade. Cops too. That's why they get to retire young. They die young. But now, now we VILLIFY these people as greedy slobs that rob us with their deals earned today yet written and agreed to 25 years ago. Not long ago, extending a hand to those who have fallen was considered an obligation. Still is in one book. But now, now those people are lazy, slackers, boozers...unwed mothers (actual word deleted) gettin rich on 200 a month in food stamps and 500 in general assistance. Or how we would build a barn, pass the hat and bake the pies for someone's medical bills. So they could live. Now?? Die freedom sucking socialist. Pay your own insurance I got mine. THESE are changes I've seen in my 40 something lifetime. And as the former VP of the We Say So Corporation, I sat at the table with corporate counsel, CEO, marketing and PAC folks. Those conversations most folks here don't want to hear but know this: Few were concerning your best interests, legally, socially or morally. In fact, the simple recap is 'what can we get away with and how much will it cost 'us' (you) if we get caught'. I saw value placed on a child's life..discounted of course since he was black. Value. 2 hours of discussion about what the mother might take in exchange for her child that we negligently killed. How to play her to get a discount. And how to play you, next. 100k to her. 47 million to my boss that year. A banner one in which we laid off a worker bee - who had cancer - two months prior to hitting her pension date of 30 years service. Sent her job to India. 'oh, but mrs smith you see that in order to qualify for your pension, you must have completed 80 units with our company and you only had 79 at the time of your separation and are therefore ineligible...' And this is OK now.As long as its not us its damn corporate welfare and damn too much anyi-business meddling. i believe we are all being played. Played to believe that what our parents and grandparents knew as right is now wrong. Socialist. Communist. IST. Now that we have demonized each other, made to dismantle what we know is right...then they own us in ways inescapable. And we lemmings handed it to them; possibly the result of a very effective marketing team.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 7:59 pm

    Mr. Dnoll, I'm sorry my proof is in the pudding comment was not expansive enough for you. Now, my feelings are hurt and I'll cry myself to sleep tonight. Phil, I'm going to need that hug.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 8:04 pm

    Morris bringing reality to this site.

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 21, 2013 - 8:09 pm

    OK, But the "no eye contact rule" is in force.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 8:14 pm

    Phil, agreed, but a tight hug OK?

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  • Phil VeerkampAugust 21, 2013 - 8:18 pm

    No. Open and no more than two back pats. Quick break.

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  • robertdnollAugust 21, 2013 - 8:23 pm

    Phan Thi Kim Phus

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  • MorrisAugust 21, 2013 - 9:29 pm

    And one last rant: All the garbage thrown onto City, County and - in particular - State worker benefits is another sad bait and switch tossed to the lemmings like red meat. And some of the 'outrage' seems more like petty jealously cast by those who would demonize those who have something they don't. But sure as spit would accept if available; shifting moral position be damned. The basic truth about civil service jobs in this state is that the pay, advancement opportunities, merit increases and working environment suck. Folks who have dedicated themselves to civil service often fall into two categories: 1. Those who truly wish to serve and/or 2. Those who desire greater stability and a pension. This comes, however, at a cost; specifically that of markedly reduced earnings in comparison to the public sector. You take less per month now as offset to the future pension and medical benefits. Often the difference is striking: An excellent Tech PM for the state? Maybe 80k and a drab office with cheap hand me down from the Dept of Corrections metal furniture. Private sector? 150K plus. Not to mention stock options, relo packages, low interest loans and other shiny things. But demonizing the civil servants provided a quick hit and now a whole new crappy compensation wave has rushed over those roles going forward. The end result for Californians? Be prepared for service quality and availability to fall like Tom's integrity at a PAC Piñata Party. We won't be able to attract the talent; plain and simple. So give the freakin civil servants a break. Most of 'em earn every last 60cents on the dollar they get.

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  • James E.August 21, 2013 - 9:42 pm

    Morris, Cookie is not going to be happy.

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  • Fran DuchampAugust 22, 2013 - 12:36 am

    Morris...reread " FAHRENHEIT 451: The temperature at which book paper catches fire and burns. If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." But this time read it through the eyes of the author...it was more than "book burning"--it was about technology...and how technology would control us. http://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/list/ same site--look at most powerful--richest--worlds biggest public companies. It was the internet that was designed to drag us by the nose...and we followed. The powerful wanted a "one world" concept...Facebook and others social on-line sites....pushed it along. E-books...distant learning. SKYPE...people would never have to leave their houses. First disarm them...control their basic needs...take away their freedoms while they are not paying attention...you now control them. Look around you--people at meetings--within meetings...they are sitting in a room in a important-yet boring meeting...while watching a screen in another room (a virtual one. what gives them away is they are smiling))...to a third and fourth room...wait what was the question. This is just one "wall" where we are posting now-- of many internet rooms...there are no rules. And someone knows what everyone is doing...the government created the whole idea to begin with. I am someone who, because of how I brought myself up to be--has to believe that someone as an individual will stand up in our county that actually knows all the true stories and say "stop"--enough is enough. Until then...there are no more political "parties"...there is only the ultra rich playing games--which one wants to be the first "one world" leader? Marketing--yep...although I think creativity went out the window with honesty. People were hurting--they gave us games to play. They connected us to our faraway families and friends...they met our basic need as humans. Then they slowly started to pull out the rug--slowly so no one noticed...then one last pull...and most sit on their bottoms clutching their smartphones texting their love ones...asking "did you feel that?" "you know--the shift--that movement..what the...oh never mind-- did you see what was on sale at Amazon this morning...I know...what just yesterday it was almost free on the ____ exchange..." politics. Really kinda sad. But chin up. Back to reality--back to EDC.

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  • MorrisAugust 22, 2013 - 1:06 am

    Thanks for the headsup James. Imagine that's a frequent condition around here. Perhaps I can send a nice camomile tea party gift basket or equivalent liberal earl grey?

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 6:18 am

    Morris, going back to when a family didn't need two bread winners but could still buy a home and still save for retirement, the burden they didn't face was having roughly half of every dime they made go toward supporting government. You are correct, decisions used to made based on right and wrong and people came first. Yet all the things you mention have gotten more and more common while government has grown to unimaginable size. So if all this government is the answer how come it still goes on? Don't confuse my position by thinking that WE as a society aren't responsible to provide for people who CANNOT provide for themselves. We are responsible, but we are now providing ridiculous support to people who don't want to work. In Hawaii someone taking advantage of all the federal government 126 poverty programs can get over $50,000/yr in support. Not including medical. Your claim about the average public sector employee sacrificing potential income and getting less that the average private sector employee used to be true. It no longer is and hasn't been for a while. The average public school teacher in Chicago earns $76,000/yr not including benefits. Just down the hill in the twin rivers unified school district the administrators, in addition to making upwards of 6 figures pay zero contributions to their pensions. The UC systems regents are getting paid upwards of a half million a year in salary plus housing, car, travel and huge retirement. In Wisconsin the average public sector worker earns $12,000 more a year than the average private sector worker. Plus the private sector worker gets to pay for the public sector workers retirement and healthcare when they can't afford their own. Combined the states owe over $4trillion to the public sector retirees. How can our broken government fix anything when they can't fix themselves? The government is theatre, very expensive theatre costing the taxpayers at every turn with less and less to show for it. If you can explain how the shrinking taxpayer base can afford to pay a retired firefighter $100k-$130k/yr for 40 years after they only worked 25 and not go bankrupt I would love to hear it. Government is not on your side when it comes to protecting people from corruption whether that corruption is in the private sector or the public sector. Government is not the solution it is the problem.

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 6:49 am

    My mom still lives in the house I grew up in here in the county. For some reason the area has always been popular for retired people to move to after retirement. Many from the bay area, nearly all from the public sector. Going back about 40 years a couple moved up there and bought a large piece of property and built a great big house on it. I got to know these people over the several years they lived there. Both of them were retirees from administrative positions from the state of California. They had a marriage of financial gain. I learned a great deal about public sector retirement from these people. I learned about spiking. Both of them had done it. They had saved their vacation and sick leave over the course of several years so they could collect it in their last year of employment and get their pensions based on their last years salary. They were both double dipping. Although they had retired, both had taken consulting positions and were getting paid for what were basically no-show jobs. They were becoming multi-millionaires in retirement off the backs of the taxpayers. They bought another piece of property, built another even bigger house and sold it. Eventually they bought an apartment complex in Phoenix AR, sold their house and moved there. This was all paid for by the taxpayers who could not afford their own retirement. This was also 40 years ago, that is how long it has been going on. The thing I remember most about them is how limited they were mentally. Neither one of them could pour p*ss out of a boot with the directions on the heal. But they did know how to gouge the taxpayers for all it was worth.

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  • agent provocateurAugust 22, 2013 - 7:12 am

    Thanks Congressman Tom McClintock. I concur with the statements The solution is for people to “agitate, agitate, agitate” and Quoting President Reagan, he said the U.S. Constitution is not the government’s document telling us what we can and can’t do. It’s the people’s document telling our government those things we will allow it to do. But in El Dorado County, we have VERN PIERSON who is supposed to be a a Republican and he is to following the U.S. Constitution or California Constitution and violating "equal protection" and crime victims rights. This is a sham and a disgrace to the Republican party. I am not suggesting Dems are better, I switched over to the Libertarian party and figure less government is better. Congressman Tom McClintock should initiate a Federal RICO investigation into the corruption in the EDC District Attorney's office.

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 7:26 am

    Morris, it is being reported that Bradley Manning is seeking gender reassignment treatment while incarcerated. Should the taxpayers get billed for that?

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  • agent provocateurAugust 22, 2013 - 7:56 am

    In EDC, there seems to be a lot of unnecessary GOP on GOP conflict and white on white violence. Like the Pierson vs Nutting thing. Strange inbreed behavior I guess. It seems EDC is in the evaluation stage still as the good old boy and girl club starts to get fettered out and the Internet get the information to the public. People in the sleepy hills of EDC are waking up to the rampant corruption in EDC like Pierson, EDC Judicial corruption, US amendment 2, Agenda 21 and the police state, etc.

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  • agent provocateurAugust 22, 2013 - 8:04 am

    in other words, MR. McClintock have a 'chat' with Vern Pierson and tell him he is making the GOP look like dirty gross bat pucky and "clean it up". Pierson is abusing his power and "Double Dipping" as BOTH the District Attorney AND IT Director! Thus 2 phat paychecks over $250K taxpayer $$$ and 2 CALPERS (he looks like a domocide Democrat) Look, this is a bad example of an elected official with a very, very 'CAVILER' attitude.

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 8:06 am

    "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"----Patrick Henry

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 8:29 am

    True oppression comes from government not from free-enterprise. Here is just another step toward government becoming your and my master.-- Post-Obamacare law hiring at the Department of Health and Human Services included 86 'criminal investigators,' but just two 'consumer safety' officers. --On the day President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law in 2010, HHS received authority to make 1,814 new hires. --The authorization included positions for 50 criminal investigators. The agency increased that number to 86. --The agency was also authorized to hire 261 'consumer safety officers.' Only two such employees were hired-- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399612/Feds-building-detective-squad-target-consumers-companies-dont-follow-Obamacare.html#ixzz2ciCxE5mW

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 8:40 am

    From the article I just posted..."A total of 1,684 of those positions were filled. An analysis by MailOnline shows that at 2010 federal government salary rates, the new employees' salaries alone cost the U.S. at least $138.8 million every year."---That comes out to $81,947/yr. taxpayer funded income per job. Plus taxpayer funded pensions and healthcare.

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 9:07 am

    I take comfort in the knowledge that those at the NSA, IRS, HHS, DHS, ICE, EPA and countless other government agencies who are wiping their backsides with our Constitution will be well taken care of in retirement from the earnings of the very same people they are stomping on. Wasn't obama gonna make government "cool" again?

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 9:37 am

    The bill clinton wannabe mayor of San Diego (DEMOCRAT) is going to retire. Apparently a "settlement" was reached between he and the city council. Does that mean he is going to get a payoff? He is also under investigation for alleged pay-to-play schemes with developers. Another good misogynist dim using the force of government to enrich himself. http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diego-Mayor-Bob-Filner-to-Resign-220675401.html?dr

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  • cookie65August 22, 2013 - 9:42 am

    Hope and change??? The average American household is earning less than when the Great Recession ended four years ago, according to a report released Wednesday. http://www.cnbc.com/id/100980411

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  • pay-to-playAugust 22, 2013 - 10:12 am

    Sounds like EDC

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  • agent provocateurAugust 22, 2013 - 11:58 am

    Can the revolution please start?

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  • MorrisAugust 22, 2013 - 6:50 pm

    Sockpuppet loves some F451 Fran. Tasty choice reading. So long as not on fire. I'm unsure if the whole bill of goods theory is a coordinated effort or just smart monkeys with corporate penis envy...'they are doing it, they have it, I must do it (bigger) and I must have it (I do have it) bigger' and thus the steamrolling buldozes it's way down PAC Town Blvd to a concerned citizens meeting near you. (KoolAid and Cinnebombs graciously provided by The Really Looking Attractive and Provides Us With a Feeling of Empowerment PAC Inc LLC) I tend to think your theory is more accurate. Wanna get surreal? Go into the Madison Red Line Subway Station in Chicago (an amazing city) at 5:05 PM. As the escalator moves you down two levels below earth, your vista opens up to the North / South platforms and then...you....see....IT. 500 people waiting for the train. 499 intently staring into and thumbing onto their iPhones, iPads, etc. it's like a freakin Fellini flick. (Okay, yes that WAS me but I wasnt an iPad. Was on the Etch-A-Sketch...). Ohhhhh ...shiny!

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  • MorrisAugust 22, 2013 - 7:14 pm

    Cookie, please take this as the compliment it is intended to be: When refraining from both name calling and generally showing yer ass, you have an excellent capacity for thought provoking counterpoint. Now to respond to a couple of quick ones: I disagree that both spouses must work to stay afloat. In fact, I call BS on that for most middle income and above householders. Mummy and Daddy have to work because they have to have two cars, four bedrooms, six pair (each) 100 jeans, eight netflixs a week, ten drive thru meals, twelve pack a day (dad) eighteen pack a week (kids) , twentyfour X-Box games, quarter ounce of kush, 30 pack disposable diapers, 60 Zoloft and a Boob Job Financed by the bank on TV. THAT is why Mommy 1. Works and 2. Is a MILF. As for the prison system paying to remodel someone's dumbstick, I guess my answer would have to be in the form of a question: Will she be hot?

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  • James McFaddenAugust 29, 2013 - 4:22 pm

    Once again Tom McClintock demonstrates that someone "dumber than a bag of hammers" can get elected in some districts.

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