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EL DORADO COUNTY District 1 Supervisor John Knight and his wife Georgi check election results posted on the county's Website on election night. Knight lost to challenger Ron Mikulaco by 502 votes. Democrat photo by Noel Stack
Ron “Mik” Mikulaco spent a little more than $5,000 to run for and win the El Dorado County District 1 seat in Tuesday’s election, while incumbent Supervisor John Knight spent $21,000.
According to the county’s “Semi-Official Election Night Final Report,” Mikulaco was leading incumbent John Knight by a margin of 53 percent to approximately 46.5 percent.
Of the total votes counted 7,538, for the final report, recorded at 16 minutes past midnight Wednesday morning, Knight had 3,510 and Mikulaco had 4,012. Elections Department officials told the Mountain Democrat that the count included mail-in ballots as well as ballots submitted at polling stations.
Registrar of Voters Bill Schultz explained that 5,500 absentee ballots countywide, that is, spread throughout all five districts had not yet been counted as of noon Wednesday. He suggested that while possible, the number was not likely to alter results in any individual, local races.
Mikulaco’s Recipient Committee Campaign Statement posted May 19 the Elections Department showed Year to Date income of $7,395. Of that amount, $5,047 was received in cash, and $2,348 represented a loan to the campaign by an individual, Gregory Fernandez of Huntington Beach. The largest cash contribution to his campaign $1,600 came from contractor RJP Framing of El Dorado Hills.
Overall expenditures totalled $3,077 between Jan. 1 and May 19, according to the documentation. The largest single income/expenditure was listed as a fundraiser held April 19. That event reportedly cost $900 and returned the same amount to the campaign.
By contrast, Knight’s campaign statement showed $18,929 in cash contributions between Jan. 1 and May 19 while expenditures ran to $21,286. Knight received $1,500 each from the Sacramento Builders Exchange and from the Auburn Holding Corporation. They were the largest single amounts contributed. His campaign war chest also included residual amounts in loans from himself, from the Committee to Elect Helen Baumann and from his mother’s trust. All loans reportedly originated in 2008.
Knight spent roughly $7,000 alone on mailers, his single largest campaign expenditure. His website and design cost another nearly $2,000. The cost of stamps and computer-printer ink were about equal at $90 and change each. The incumbent had been endorsed by the Mountain Democrat, the Sacramento Bee and several local Chambers of Commerce.
District 2
Incumbent District 2 County Supervisor Ray Nutting held on to a wide lead over challenger George Turnboo. The figures put out in the Semi-Official Election Night Final Report show Nutting with 67.9 percent of the 8,582 votes counted.
Nutting’s campaign spent significantly more than either his opponent or any other candidate for Districts 1 and 2. Cash contributions reportedly totaled $24,291 from January through May 19, while non-monetary donations were shown to be $179. The Sacramento Builders Exchange topped all supporters with a $1,500 contribution. Serrano Associates and Town Center East of El Dorado Hills gave $1,000 each to the campaign. The El Dorado County Employees Association’s parent entity Public Employees Union Local 1 also contributed $750 toward Nutting’s reelection.
Nutting spent $3,700 on consulting with Dan Dellinger and almost $4,700 on advertising in the Clipper. Another $3,000-plus each went for catering and postage, while signage ran $2,600 and $2,700 more went to the Mountain Democrat for ads.
George Turnboo, trying for the second time to unseat Nutting, reported cash receipts of $6,077 and non-money contributions of $2,075. On the expenditure side, Turnboo showed $13,866 going out for printing, mailing and advertising, some of which was done by his campaign manager Laurel Stroud.
The campaign gave $1,200 to Blue Streak Towing of El Dorado for a 1976 Mercedes coupe which became a raffle prize. The raffle brought in $320. Turnboo had better luck with traditional fundraisers, showing income of $549 and $345 from a breakfast in Mt. Aukum and a chili cookoff, respectively. Another $495 came in via a fundraiser at the Bass Lake Country Club.
The campaign listed a non-monetary contribution of $1,500 for art design and research from Judy and Dennis Mathat.
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YVETTE WRIGHTJune 07, 2012 - 11:37 pm
$1,500 to Judy Mathat? I thought that was a trade for parking her motorhome there for a month while she lived in it. I guess she was disappointed when George didn't make it since he told her he was going to appoint her to the planning commission.
Totally WrongJune 08, 2012 - 8:10 am
George isn't Ray and no promises were given to anyone and George was working on Judy's tow car while they waited for tow parts and the in-kind money she gave was for designs and campaign materials as stated. George is honest and doesn't work with favors owed like Ray so do your homework
YVETTE WRIGHTJune 08, 2012 - 8:21 am
OK Totally, you know so much how about helping me out. Exactly WHAT design work do Mathat do for $1,500?
Totally WrongJune 08, 2012 - 9:05 am
Signs, mailers, history papers, research and most of all help in filing timely responses to the lists of supporters who are the backbone of any campaign. The countless hours of design and research of which she and her husband gave to the campaign and listed it as "In-Kind" as they gave of their time to help a "Grassroots Campaign" not funded by developers.
readerJune 08, 2012 - 9:25 am
Y Wright, did you READ the phrase "non-monetary"? i.e. the Mathats received no remuneration. To restate: JUDY MATHAT DID NOT RECEIVE $1,500. The candidate, in the interests of full disclosure (a political rarity) put a value on work done and listed it. Put away your poison pen.
YVETTE WRIGHTJune 08, 2012 - 10:33 am
OK Totally, does that mean that any volunteer that gives their time to help a campaign should be listed in the 460 or is that just a Tax thing. Reader - Did Judy pay full and fair price for the work George did on her motorhome or was there some kind of Barter thing going on. I sure hope they report that Barter properly on their tax form. And By the way, is their some reason you won't use your real names?
readerJune 08, 2012 - 11:04 am
YW, do some research to get your answers. I'm not Dear Abby! As for real names (or not) judge the content of each comment, then decide for yourself whether it's worthy of your time. If it isn't, move on.
VETERANJune 08, 2012 - 1:52 pm
$1,500.00 for Judy Mathat? Seems the Mathats spear headed the Graphic Art Services for the 2008 Veterans Outreach Program for Bill Schultz Interim Director of Veterans Affairs where $4,320.00 +- was paid for Graphic Art Services, that program failed costing El Dorado County tax payers $35,605.21. (REF. 2008 EDC budget VSO Office)
readerJune 08, 2012 - 2:30 pm
Illiteracy rampant. VETERAN, you also don't read.
YVETTE WRIGHTJune 08, 2012 - 5:04 pm
Such a common (Shoot the messenger Ad-hominem) attack, but typical for you “reader.” Your response to “Veteran” is directed towards the individual so you can avoid the crucial issues being discussed. $4,320.00 +- paid for Graphic Art Services? A failed program costing El Dorado County tax payers $35,605.21. (REF. 2008 EDC budget VSO Office) Sounds like she has a track record of failed art. Maybe that is why George did not actually pay her.
readerJune 08, 2012 - 6:17 pm
YW: Please state where in the article it says that Judy Mathat received $1,500. Before a stack of all books holy I will apologize on bended knee when you or Veteran can do that.
Ken SteersJune 08, 2012 - 7:02 pm
The campaign listed a non-monetary contribution of $1,500 for art design and research from Judy and Dennis Mathat. As a person who has dealt with the Mathat's in the past I would have to say George must have been feeling generous. Maybehe still has the art work magnetized on his fridge...
Bad CallJune 08, 2012 - 7:33 pm
Since George got his butt handed to him by Ray, I guess free was too much to pay for that "free" artwork and research from Judy Mathat. Looks like George would have done better without her help.
logicJune 08, 2012 - 7:45 pm
Wonderful BC - Anyone running for public office who loses should ask for refunds.
ConcernedJune 08, 2012 - 8:34 pm
Don't really think Ray handed anything, I do believe it was an election and the people vote, but if Ray had his way he would buy um all.
DoomedJune 09, 2012 - 6:50 pm
Unless Ray is held to answer for all his stuff we are doomed for another four years of his ill-prepared logic and rambling on all issues. He will adhere to the developers and without Jack to real him in we are doomed. But wait John is also gone so he won't have that all important vote to assist and Ron with Norma will hold him in check.
Barbara RogersJune 09, 2012 - 8:49 pm
Ray Nutting earned his win people. He campaigned every inch of Cameron Park. He knocked on doors, stood in front of the grocery stores and had meet and greets in the homes of residents. He reached out to the people, Turnboo did not. I never saw George Turnboo in this area, nor did my friends or neighbors. We never even got a mailer from Turnboo's campaign. You snooze you lose, that is a fact. Let's just end all this banter folks. The election is over, people won, people lost, there is always next time.
Look AroundJune 10, 2012 - 8:05 am
George was there also and he did the same and you are right the election is over and there is next year, all the people here do is state the facts. That Ray is dirty and in the pockets if the developers and he will continue to do the same until he is termed out. So we will watch and see if he really has learned as he said and all will be watching and waiting for results.
Babrara RogersJune 10, 2012 - 7:11 pm
Look Around; sorry to say but I and many others here in CP never saw hide nor hair or Mr. Turnboo. It is what it is and I doubt I can say anymore that will convince you otherwise. Like I said, we never even received as much as a mailer from his campaign. I think he stayed up country, that might have his demise in the race. Ray on the other hand, was all over this area, walking neighborhoods and calling people. Let's face it, the reality is, it doesn't matter who gets elected, there always someone out there complaining.
VETERANJune 10, 2012 - 8:10 pm
And I spent all that time reading about the candidates qualifications, voting record and trying to deside if the person running for office was creditable. Next time I’ll just leave my head in the sand until the doorbell rings. Barara, your doing a very good impersonation of a political operative so you must be aware that it takes money to but boots on the ground and flyers in your mail box, in Rays case deep pocket developer dollars. Those of us who have worked with Ray Nutting know him to have a credibility problem which makes his reelection difficult to except and his desire to go onto state office even more difficult.
Judith MathatJune 18, 2012 - 10:10 am
Rebuttal to online comments following article on the recent election and political donations; June 7, 2012 to June 10, 2012 To spin off an old quote: If I wanted to spend more time this would have been shorter…… Politics is a merciless game played for high stakes with individuals or financial agendas that are primarily self serving. There are honest and hard working politicians who enter the arena with the best of Values, Integrity and Principles, who, soon find themselves mired in the muck of Money Power and Greed upon which to base their decisions. “Honest Politician” is usually an oxymoron. Those who have worked behind the scenes to support players of the game use agendas for similar reasons. My interest in local politics and my agenda really began when a Supervisor agenized a land use issue and then reversed his decision on the dias while 99% of those involved watched in horror as this Supervisor, who had to agreed to support them, moved and voted against them and their life’s dreams at the last minute. That inspired me and some others to get into the local political arena; we prevailed in removing that Supervisor in the next election. Then it was “let the games begin” to put or keep honest, politicians, if there was such a player, in office! My agenda as a “property rights advocate” against a “global government conspiracy theory”, involvement in groups, in organizations and committees gave me access to better understand the entire picture instead of concentrating on bits and pieces of information like most of the uninformed everyday citizens who do vote, but only for those who come to their door or hand them a flyer at the supermarket. The Constitution of our country is without equal and I have spent thousands of hours where I could, hoping to understand and protect its framework, disrupting my everyday life to attend meetings, gain information, documentation, and knowledge (I had an expert mentor). The greatest pleasure and satisfaction in all of this to me is to play the game in the background and see candidates, an idea, suggestion, project, or information that gets dropped cause a good thing to come together and it does not matter to me who gets the credit only that it gets done. I had an acquaintance who once told me that “He had never met anyone who was involved in politics as much as I have been for the past 20 years who didn’t make any money.” My response was that I thought you were supposed to make “a difference.” Since that fly’s in the face of many with agendas unlike my own, who do not seem to understand that money, power and greed are out of balance with values, integrity and principles in my life, therefore my reason for taking the time to respond. I found it caustic to find my spouses’ 40 year graphic art career and my name being used to denigrate our personal contributions to the Veterans of El Dorado County, he is a 21 yr USAF retiree and a Viet Nam Veteran, lifetime member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 2680 and spent 12 plus years serving as a District 4 Veterans Commissioner of El Dorado County, to 3 Supervisors. Neither of us EVER asked for or was paid a dime for any work donated to the Veterans of El Dorado County, my spouse did help to design the brochures that the county prepared for the Veterans Service Office. I personally had no involvement in the project. To the “Veteran”, an apology is in order, get your facts straight or get out of the game!!! The only issue that has political overtones is the fact that my spouse and one or two other’s on the Veteran’s Commission had, for over 10 years tried to reopen interest with the Supervisors (including Supervisor Nutting), to find the lost funds the county spent out of the veterans account in the general fund years ago. They wanted to see the current building updated or build a new building that is ADA compliant. When this was revealed to George Turnboo he took this to heart and made it a campaign issue and to Supervisor Ray Nuttings’ response, “We paved their parking lot, what more do they want?” Still don’t get it do you Ray; They want Supervisors who care about our veterans who came and are now coming home from service to this nation and county without limbs and to have the ability to attend a meeting in a two story building or use a restroom in the same county building that is set aside for them!!! (The nice new American Legion Building is not the Veterans Building.) I really did not want to take the time to respond to this diatribe but there were so many lies and slanderous statements in the comments online I decided to re-enter the game to keep my integrity intact. At least to those who read this stuff, those who do not know me and would believe the incredible untruths spun by political groupies of Supervisor Nutting. Both of us, elected or appointed members in some capacity as District 4 Representatives of the Republican Central Committee of El Dorado County for 10 yrs, worked on multiple campaigns on helping those we felt we could run for office or keep in office. That said; most of those we supported or worked for have won their campaigns, more often than not, including Supervisor Nutting. As for Ken Steers statement about his association with us during his short lived presidency of 2 yrs on the Central Committee, maybe he has the graphics on his fridge his personal business graphics shop designed and did not check the data and copy before mailing it out the first time! Quality repeats itself every time. The Central Committee, at least until recently, used the same design on their slate mailer we provided to them years ago. Let alone other support provided to their web site the last time I cared to look. Maybe his donation of $30,000 to the last sheriff’s campaign that is recorded on archived election 460s’ and the failure of his candidate to be elected on Nov. 2, 2010, while chairing his last meeting of the Central Committee on Nov. 8th, 2010, helped him to lose his cool in front of a packed room full of the entire Central Committee and guests and the newly elected sheriff, where he turned into an outraged, screaming, “bloviating bully” who came unglued when asked to allow the new Sheriff to be introduced or to delay the adjournment (for Monday night football) so others could speak, is putting it lightly! Some people that play in the game of politics whose worship of the almighty dollar or MPG can never be explained when they are called to balance their behavior against Values, Integrity and Principles. This group of comments in the diatribe seems like “Yvette WRIGHT” or more appropriately “Nuttin WRONG is just another name on a scapegoats letter”, who knows absolutely NUTTIN’ about how to report in-kind campaign contributions. That is how you distinguish honest candidates with integrity; they report what has been provided by in-kind and other donations to their political campaigns on their 460’s. Those that do not know what they are talking about, are better off keeping their mouths shut and or their computer generated fabrications to themselves. George Turnboo or any other candidate we have worked on their campaigns or committees, where most won rather than not, range from Superior Court Judges, Sheriff’s, District Attorney’s, County Supervisors, EID Directors, GDPUD Directors, School Board members, CSD Directors, State Senators, Assemblymen and U.S. Congressmen would share that my primary suggestion to win would be to mimic the most prodigious campaigner I had ever known; Supervisor Nutting, his tenacity is unchallenged, though his personal methodology has changed. A close second is Walt Shultz who walked his entire district carrying a broom in a “Clean Sweep” campaign. We do not discuss or disclose the work and donations of time and talents we provide as we do not find it necessary to share “pulling cats out of trees photo opts” or have groupies put “Senator Weiner photo shopped nudity photos used as Christmas cards” on our public social networks” just to pat ourselves on the backs of the candidates as they are the ones needing the exposure. For over 20 years we have provided professional, unique and avant-garde photos, materials and designs behind the scenes that belonged only to the candidates we supported. This was always done without our requests for remuneration for other than occasional supplies. We have, when requested provided an “in-kind” invoice for legally required donations of time and materials and that including Supervisor Nuttings’ previous campaigns. We asked George Turnboo and his committee to keep our names off his committee list except for the donation of in-kind as we would not be in the area to assist on the entire campaign. I heard hundreds of positive comments on the idea and design for the bright yellow diamond shaped signs, (including Supervisor Nutting), the bumper stickers, and logo for George’s campaign. His mailers and literature and even his web site design were unique and spoke to who the candidate is and not to some political dribble and staid sayings. It also is none of anyone’s business but ours how we paid for or why we stayed in the area to have George Turnboo perform mechanical repairs on our RV and tow vehicle long after our plans to leave the county so our 50 year dream of full time RVing could begin. Another “NUTTIN” comment; is George Turnboo promised to make me his District 2 Planning Commissioner! (This was something I had thought about 15 years or so ago). My permanent and mailing address is in District 4 and my plan to leave the county to begin a several year hiatus in an RV fulltime touring the North American Continent certainly would allow me to do the job well, wouldn’t it? Maybe I would have been able to accept, never show up for meetings and work and have my monthly stipend for the job placed by automatic deposit to my bank account as did a recent Supervisor MPG politician who proved to be a real “Payne”! I had found that Money Power and Greed were more now Supervisor Nuttings motivator and not Values, Integrity and Principles. (Researching 2 yrs worth of his 460’s, I checked to see who owned the properties along the rail bed from the county line to Shingle Springs, and matched them with Nuttings 460s’ and found the largest donors to his coffers were the investment property owners along the tracks and questioned him as to why he voted to pull up the tracks and or remove the ability for historical excursion trains.) Taking the opportunity away forever from our grandchildren and their children. To the statement by “Barbara” that George was not at every door and not in Cameron Park. He was in CP at many events and political forums, Tea Party Meetings, Chamber of Commerce Golf Tournament, and Mixers etc. George Turnboo is an independent businessman who had to continue working to support his family and not abandon his business relationships to solicit donations for support to finance a competitive campaign. Maybe he never got to every door, but George Turnboo worked as hard as he was financially able to be able to break the back of the political machine that is in El Dorado County while still working for a living. Perhaps if you had cared to go onto his website or called him you would have had more information to make a more informed vote. There are good candidates who cannot get to every door or fund every mailing address in every district. It is the voter’s responsibility to find out all they can and make their decision. Obviously you made yours, good luck in seeing Supervisor Nutting at your door again. But you will be paying for his retirement and benefits for the rest of his life while candidates like George Turnboo will come up to the plate 1. 2 or even 3 times, if they are lucky, will win, and after a couple of terms of community service, still have a business to return to after having provided benefits only to the constituents and counties problems and not lined their pockets on their inside information or their voting records. With the types of attacks early on that was made against George Turnboo by Supervisor Nutting or his campaign Manager Dan Dillinger. George discussed with me whether to run for supervisor again, it became apparent that this would not be easy for George to overturn a seasoned campaigner who could spend 24/7 campaigning on the public tax payers dole. (RE: “Barbara’s” unabashed comments in the diatribe about how diligent Nutting was in campaigning door to door, etc.). After several real personal threats from Supervisor Nutting and his campaign manager Dan Dillinger, George pondered whether to try again to remove dishonesty and greed from his districts seat on the Board of Supervisors. Only now do I bring a few of the threats up to defend mine and others integrity defiled by Nutting supporters poison pens in the published comments online in the Mountain Democrat. I believe it is more important to defend ones integrity than anything else one will ever own, can’t be bought, sold or traded and in the end it is the only thing you can take with you. One eyewitness I have spoken to would be willing to testify that they listened as Dan Dellinger told George that “if he would not run for supervisor “they” could get him $25,000.00 to run for the school board.” Others who came in to Georges Pit Stop I overheard tell George that Ray Nutting or Dan Dellinger told me “you are not running for supervisor”, others, “George Turnboo is running for the school board”. This is unethical perhaps illegal coming from a candidate but it also reeks of stupidity and is only one more thing to have to deal with in political games as there were so many bizarre things that could have goaded George Turnboo to start using “dirty politics” in his campaign. George felt it was most important to keep focused on the issues and the ability to “keep it clean”. It was the direct threat to George Turnboo, after a Republican Central Committee meeting, by Supervisor Nutting; that if George brought up the fact that Supervisor Nutting was able to secure for himself and his families properties, hundreds of thousands of dollars in grant money, never disclosed in the past several years or currently; “If you bring up the government CFIB grants I received, I will bury your a--” that drove George to file his papers. Now if any reader does not believe this to be true, check out the Board of Supervisors agenda and video last week and see the reaction of Supervisor Nutting as Supervisor Sweeney moved to have an investigation on the amounts and recipients of the grant funds. It is not illegal to acquire grants for ones use to provide fire protection to large amounts of property in and of itself and would not be suspect unless a sitting supervisor who is on the committee that requests the grant, votes to request it and then applies for and receives the grant funding for himself! When one runs for political office you expose yourself to the public like an open book and if you fail to provide critical information you can be held legally responsible by the Fair Political Practices Act and the public you are addressing, not to mention the Grand Jury and the District Attorney. The self serving agendas of the contributors the candidates and the supporters is a complex and interesting game that shapes the lives of all who live in El Dorado County and this is just a County!!! The State and Federal levels are beyond the level of a small time game player like me. It is almost like playing the game of “Clue”, you get a different villain and a victim almost every time you play politics, as long as you learn to identify who the real players are! Now this primary election is over and what was considered a landslide speaks to the aforementioned campaigning ability of Supervisor Nutting and the behind the scenes political games, threats, and untruths that never end up in ones mailbox or at ones door. Every campaign, every politician or their campaign manager’s have their own basket of tricks and usually the most money spent or best ruse wins and the honest hard working candidates that accept defeat wonder why anyone with integrity wants to run for office? I have read that definition of insanity-“that of someone who keeps banging their head against the wall until it does not hurt.” Is reflected in the outcome of this election, the voters have spoken again and they will again keep banging their heads against the Board of Supervisors dais, to see if they get anything different in District 2 the next four years than what they got in the past 12 years except the same old NUTTIN’. It has been an interesting, fun, and sometimes a heartbreaking game, when standing up for the “courage of one’s convictions”, “you must be able to take the heat or get out of the kitchen”, never more corroborated than these past 20 years but all in all it has been a proof to my belief that if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem and to measure an elected officials performance or why they have voted a certain way by using the formula: Money Power and Greed vs. Values Integrity and Principles, wins every time, (I am sure it is not only true in El Dorado County but in every city, county and state across the nation and I hope to be able to read people and their local weekly rags in thousands of them all and learn that the United States of America is as strong as she ever was! Judith Mathat
Ken SteersJune 18, 2012 - 10:34 am
That my friends is Judy Mathat in a nut shell! First I spent 57K on the Sheriff's race not 30. My breaking point was posters making derogatory disgusting statements about the Therkilson family. It is my constitutional 1st amendment right. And wrong again Judy, it was Dan Dellinger who wanted to speak not the Sheriff. But your not one to accept reality. I have a visual of the movie Christmas Vacation with Dennis and Judy showing up in their motor home. To the Mathats, don't go away mad just go away.
Anna RecksiekJune 18, 2012 - 11:18 am
WOW. Talk about Bloviating! With an outgassing like that I see why George thanked everyone in his campaign in his letter to the Democrat, everyone except Judy Matfat. I can hardly believe she had the chutzpah to call Ken a Bloviating Bully in a a comment where she is clearly being a Bloviating Bully herself.
Ken SteersJune 18, 2012 - 1:16 pm
I'm pretty sure I could take her in a fair fight. A little insight to Judy's mind set. In support of the Tea Party protest. She proposed the wearing of tea bags as earrings. A deep dark night mare of mine is to be tea bagged by that woman...
1036-FrankJune 18, 2012 - 5:06 pm
For every greed-power-dishonest candidate that runs there will or should be a counter running. I have spent my time in backing the candidate that runs to benefit the county and not themselves and honestly make a difference for the right reasons. It is my belief that this still does exist, that not everyone is corrupt and slimey, that people will rise to occasion and win some of the time with honesty and integrity. This election we knocked out Knight, in 2010 we knocked out Turdkilson, this fall Hoffman will lose. People still know how to smell a rat and vote one out. I can assure all that those who fought to right this ship in this county will prevail one election at a time until we knock out the corruption and restore the good for the right reasons.
TontoJune 18, 2012 - 5:42 pm
Or they get arrested, we can only hope that the DA does his job and finishes the investigation and that the BOS members who question Ray's handling of money from Fire Safe Council, find out how and what he did with it. maybe it will all be found out and his accounts are seized.
Ken SteersJune 18, 2012 - 10:05 pm
Alright I keep reading from posters that evil developers are buying campaigns. Please read the story again. Mik won by only spending 5k. John lost but only spent 21k of money he borrowed from his family. Ray raised his money by throwing a bunch of spaghetti feeds. The largest donation for any candidate was only $1500.00. THERE ARE NO MORE DEVELOPERS IN OUR COUNTY! They are gone. I'm just saying pick another boogie man. I would like to nominate Judy Mathat. She's scary.
Point isJune 19, 2012 - 9:37 am
Point is that $1,500.00 is a lot of money these and any day and the developers are still here just behind the scenes and follow the money and see who is donating. The people who won got the same old votes, look at the voter turn out nothing new here. We will all just have to watch and see what truth is told soon.
VETERANJune 29, 2012 - 9:17 pm
"Veteran, get your facts straight." My spouse did help to design the brochures that the County prepared for the Veterans Services Office." BOS Agenda Item- BOS File 07-1564 (License Plate Trust Fund- 9-18-07 Final Action approved 12-11-07 500ea. ($8,530.56) Color Brochure Veterans Outreach Program 2008....Total Cost Graphic Arts Services @$90 hr. American Legion Post 119 270.00 American Legion Post 795 270.00 Disabled American Veterans Post 63 270.00 Fleet Reserve Post 275 270.00 Marine Hangtown Unit 697 270.00 Pearl Harbor Surviors Unit 30 270.00 Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 2680 270.00 Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 10165 270.00 Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 2627 270.00 Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 9241 270.00 Viet Nam Vet Motorcycle Group 270.00 Military Family Support Group 270.00 Friends of the Memorial Monument 270.00 Legion of Valor 270.00 EDC Veteran Affairs 270.00 EDC Veteran Affairs Commission 270.00 Sub-total $4,320.
Judith MathatJune 30, 2012 - 12:12 am
Veteran, who is ashamed of their real name, get your facts straight-NO where does it say that my spouse or myself ever received a dime nor did we ever ask for any so GET YOUR FACTS. If the Veteans paid for anything it was getting free donated camera ready copy printed. So figure it out for yourself instead of blaming someone who was not even involved.
readerJune 30, 2012 - 5:50 am
"Veteran" & "Yvette Wright" not only are illiterate but unscrupulous as well. They will continue panhandling untruths to the unwary until someone grabs them by the tender parts and sues the pants off them.
Ken SteersJune 30, 2012 - 10:10 am
It appears to me that Ms Wright did indeed use her real name. I think that their underlying point is direct toward those who would wish to have the Mathat's work on their campaign in the first place. I'm only guessing but I would assume that the underlying question would by why? Regarding the threat of either one of them grabbing my genitals? A lawsuit would be much more appealing. As well as I would for one be far more willing to recipricate. That image rivals the teabagging nightmare...
readerJuly 01, 2012 - 1:21 pm
Three weeks have come and gone. Still "Yvette Wright" has not told us where it says that Judy Mathat received $1,500. Perhaps YW has died and gone to heaven.
YVETTE WRIGHTJuly 01, 2012 - 4:39 pm
Hi "Reader", you know very well that Judy Mathat was listed as George Turnboo's Largest contributor in his public disclosure. $1,500 contribution, which you noted was a non-monetary contribution in your comment on June 8th at 9:25 am. So if you know about it why do you go on about it three weeks later. Better yet, why are you afraid to use your real name.
readerJuly 01, 2012 - 5:03 pm
YW: "The campaign listed a NON-MONETARY contribution of $1,500 . . . FROM Judy and Dennis Mathat." (i.e. from the Mathats to the candidate, not vice versa.) You still can't read. Otherwise you're practicing deliberate obfuscation. Take your pick. What's your hangup?
YVETTE WRIGHTJuly 01, 2012 - 5:15 pm
George gives her $1,500 discount tracking down the short in her motor home and she gives him $1,500 in campaign artwork. Is that clear enough for you "afraid to use your real name" reader.
Sir LoinJuly 01, 2012 - 5:37 pm
Now you're getting huffy!
Sir LoinJuly 01, 2012 - 6:38 pm
Judith Mathat June 18, 2012 - 10:10 am said: "As for Ken Steers statement about his association with us during his short lived presidency of 2 yrs on the Central Committee, maybe he has the graphics on his fridge his personal business graphics shop designed and did not check the data and copy before mailing it out the first time! Quality repeats itself every time. The Central Committee, at least until recently, used the same design on their slate mailer we provided to them years ago. Let alone other support provided to their web site the last time I cared to look. Maybe his donation of $30,000 to the last sheriff’s campaign that is recorded on archived election 460s’ and the failure of his candidate to be elected on Nov. 2, 2010, while chairing his last meeting of the Central Committee on Nov. 8th, 2010, helped him to lose his cool in front of a packed room full of the entire Central Committee and guests and the newly elected sheriff, where he turned into an outraged, screaming, “bloviating bully” who came unglued when asked to allow the new Sheriff to be introduced or to delay the adjournment (for Monday night football) so others could speak, is putting it lightly!"
VETERANJuly 01, 2012 - 7:11 pm
What ever happen to the account of the "Lest We Forget" program the Mathats spearheaded, is there an issue with graphic art services there also? Seems there was several thousand dollars left in that fail project account also.
Sir LoinJuly 01, 2012 - 7:37 pm
Yvette/Veteran/Ken, you really seem to have issues. Come on, let it all out. Tell us everything you know and make up what you don't. You'll feel better.
BillJuly 01, 2012 - 10:13 pm
I should have guessed. These last 20 postings starting with former/present Republican Central Committee member Judy Mathat should be required reading for all 18 year olds in EDC before they vote for the first time, for it gives valuable insight into the thinking of those who make up the Republican Central Committee.
BrandonJuly 02, 2012 - 8:58 am
Let's add another former central committee member to this mix. Judy- You couldn't sound more arrogant if you tried. Your jealousy and hatred for people who have made it in life farther than living in their RV is disgusting. Your sense of boasting about how you have not made any money by working on campaigns or for campaigns under the guise of your righteousness is pathetic and laughable. Your pats on the back of you and your worthless husband are all you got, because no campaign in their right mind would claim how helpful you were to "get them elected." More over "you" or "your husband" have never gotten anyone elected in this county. You both are the epidimy of the best tool the democrats have in our county. You are the exact types that keep young people from joining the republican party and not participate in the RCC of EDC. As with any epidemic, Judy, if you want to contribute to the politics of EDC, the best contribution you could make is to stay away and disappear, quarantine yourself from El Dorado county politics. For it is better for you to let people think you are stupid than to have you open your mouth and remove all doubt. Btw, do you remember the email I sent you some time ago? I do. It had a reminder to you at the end that something along these lines- the next time you're stuffing your face with hamburgers and hot dogs at an event that you contributed zero to- Remember to say thank you to those who made that possible, instead of attacking them for contributing the money that fed that belly of yours.
MarianneJuly 02, 2012 - 6:38 pm
Wow, Brandon. Have you ever heard of manners? You sure don't make your mother proud. Much more important, have you ever heard of libel? I know that you are employed by Ken Steers and that he put you up to this extreme poison pen stuff, but both of you probably could be taken to court for what you said in comments. And the sad part is that this frenzied anger of yours makes you ignore the truth, just to get in despicable personal jabs. I hope the rest of the Republicans in this county can see the lowlifes running the Republican Central Committee. Ugh.
Fed UpJuly 02, 2012 - 6:48 pm
First of all, Ken Steers, is the rumor going around true that right after Dave Macado's sickeningly light sentencing you and Ray Nutting and Vern Pierson were all sitting with you on your porch drinking wine and smoking cigars? I wouldn't be at all surprised. If it's true it explains a lot about how low all of you have gotten. And second, Yvette Wright and Barbara Rogers are either Ray or one of his lackeys---I'd bet on it. They show his same factual errors and made up information.
S ColemanJuly 02, 2012 - 7:15 pm
Point for Bill! Go ahead, Republicans, rip each other apart. The rest of us will get some popcorn to much on while watching the carnage. Of course the carnage will sadly be the county that we live in, once "Mik" is on the BOS. Hello, teapartiers, did you even check up on your splendid candidate? A quick google search brings up, "...the trial court found that Mikulaco’s conduct constituted harassment as defined in Code of Civil Procedure section 527.6.[1]". I guess you like people who harass other people, just like you like to disrupt public meetings and behave boorishly (general plan scoping and Dixon Ranch scoping). Say what you need to, but be civil, won't you? Here's the link about Mik: http://www.fearnotlaw.com/articles/article40991.html And Judy Mathat...blah, blah, blah....much like you always did at Planning Commission and Supervisor hearings. Thanks for confirming that you all (realtors, developers, etc) meet with BOS in advance to scheme about what the outcome will be at the BOS meetings. Hello, EDC citizens, now you know what many have known, yes, that the developers/realtors/republicans strategize on Monday nights. Oh and Judy...thanks for confirming that you are part of the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory society. Taking a hiatus? We'll miss you :)
observedJuly 03, 2012 - 6:53 am
Sure seems to me that the comments here got off track, thought this was about Mik's spending and his campaign. WOW
Fed UpJuly 03, 2012 - 11:53 am
To "observed"---no, the discussion veered sharply when Barbara Rogers, Yvette Wright, and Ken Steers started name-calling with made up facts, assumptions that they wanted to believe but were wrong, and basically libelous accusations. Not one of you (and I think you are all the same person) bothered to check out your facts. You just spew hate and misinformation and threaten people. You are little school-yard bullies and also cowards, as we all know bullies are. You are working yourself up into a stroke, Ken, and it's all based on lies.
BillJuly 03, 2012 - 2:13 pm
"Ken Steers July 02, 2012 - 3:32 pm Oh Bill, 2 things are a fact, my motorhome as well as my life a far more better than yours."
OHHH BILLYJuly 03, 2012 - 2:51 pm
http://youtu.be/UJR8ZNAnRoM
Vic SubiaJuly 03, 2012 - 3:39 pm
Congratulations to Ron “Mik” Mikulaco for a well planned and well run campaign. The fact that you kept your campaign clean and at such a low cost is commendable.
Fed upJuly 03, 2012 - 7:37 pm
Vic, you are absolutely right. This should not have gotten off topic, and Mik did a great job.
Laurel StroudJuly 04, 2012 - 12:46 pm
I've come into this discussion late, but I have to reply to Anna Recksiek, or whoever is using that name. You need to check out your facts before you make accusations or you just sound like a fool. The reason George Turnboo did not use Judy Mathat's name in his thank-you letter to his supporters was that Judy was concerned that using her name would stir up fools like you and some of these other loons who are "bloviating" here, and she did not feel George needed that worry. It was done out of kindness on her part, but I am quite sure you would not understand that.
Doug HoleJuly 05, 2012 - 6:30 am
Thank you Laurel Stroud for bring it back to Judy Mathat. I thought these comments might be about Ron & John, but you insist on taking it back to the gutter. It is hard to believe that Judy wanted to keep a low profile after she wrote that long tirade on June 18th. Between her and Branden's reply, these comments are trash and have nothing to do with the story. Now Laurel wants to bring it back. I hope we see more comments like Vic's and less Laurel.