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Nutting’s appeal denied by Third Appellate Court

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From page A1 | November 25, 2013 | 105 Comments

On Nov. 11, Supervisor Ray Nutting sent a press release stating that the state Third District Court accepted his appeal for review. On Nov. 21, the court announced it denied Nutting’s appeal.

Nutting’s press release stated that his attorneys ”have received word from the California State Court of Appeals Third Appellate District that his case has been accepted for further review,” further saying this is rare and that the court usually rejects about 95 percent of received appeals. The court was to review issues on misinstruction of the Grand Jury regarding the perjury charge; the deputy attorney general’s misinterpretation of a penal code, leading to Nutting being overcharged; and the district attorney and DAG’s giving the presiding judge incorrect information regarding the source of the grant in question, causing a motion to dismiss a count to be improperly denied.

However, on Nov. 21, the Third Appellate District announced that Nutting’s petition for appeal on Nutting v. The Superior Court of El Dorado County had been summarily denied.

Nutting’s press release ended with, “Additionally it has been learned the DA Vern Pierson, not satisfied with filing seven charges against Nutting, is now going on yet another expedition to see what more he can find.” It noted that Nutting intended to “stand his ground.”

“When the allegations involving Mr. Nutting came to light,” Pierson responded, “our office initiated an investigation. Our office conducted a sober evaluation of all known facts and circumstances including interviewing Mr. Nutting. Given that he is a seated county supervisor, we requested the California Attorney General also examine the evidence.  Upon review of the evidence, the attorney general joined the case with our office.”

Pierson noted he also asked the Fair Political Practices Commission for help, as Nutting had in the past. The FFPC suggested there might be conflicts of interest for Nutting, violations of government code section 1090.

“The case was then presented jointly by our office and the attorney general to a criminal grand jury which indicted Mr. Nutting on various felony charges,” Pierson said prior to the Third District’s decision. “In the best interests of El Dorado County we have attempted to move this case as expeditiously as possible. Mr. Nutting conversely appears to attempt to stall the proceedings with motion after motion. In the end, this case will be decided in a courtroom based upon the law and evidence, not some silly, misleading press release.”

Nutting has been charged by both the District Attorney’s Office and a Grand Jury with filing false documents, failure to disclose income and having a financial interest in a county contract regarding grants to clear land for fire safety. His next hearing is Dec. 6 at 1:30 p.m. in Department 1. Nutting was unavailable for comment at the time of this article.

Contact Cole Mayer at 530-344-5068 or cmayer@mtdemocrat.net. Follow @CMayerMtDemo.

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  • Too crazy to be trueNovember 24, 2013 - 11:50 am

    And to celebrate this decision Ray lit his ranch on fire yet again. I'm not kidding people, he caught his own place on fire again. If Toronto can de-fund a Mayor, and our Supe's can cut the pay of elected's, why can't they de-fund Ray? Or at least take away his matches.

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  • James E.November 24, 2013 - 1:04 pm

    This should get everyone excited, pro or con.

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  • 2tall4agirlNovember 24, 2013 - 2:06 pm

    Yawn. Zzzzzzzzz.....Come on Ray, is that all you've got????? No one is picking on you. No one believes you anymore and you're lies are only making you look more guilty; if that's even possible

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  • Justice InsiderNovember 24, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    The Nutting-Wiener Ranch on fire again. Last week we had 50 plus mph winds. Great days to burn Ray. BTW was it a burn day? Its time for this dog and pony show to end. Ray you need to plea out or resign before your ex-friends start a recall.

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  • Bob ReevesNovember 24, 2013 - 4:40 pm

    Innocent people don't take plea bargains. Raymond Nutting will settle his case, because he is to scared to go to jail. He knows he lied and stole from the people of El dorado County.He filled out paperwork and signed it. There is know question of black and white, this is not question of interpretation or a gray area.His signature, his paperwork, his guilt! Goodbye Raymond Nutting

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 24, 2013 - 6:01 pm

    Ray will have his day in court. Any lawyer will try all possibilities before court. Ray is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Just as any one else is. Give him his day in court--or it sounds like childish whining. If you no longer want to be his friend...okay. If you think he is guilty. Okay. But talking about denying a person s right to the justice system...sounds...like kids fighting over a toy...its mine--its his--its mine. There are so many things wrong in this county at the present...which is the most important? I think about that all the time...if I could solve one thing in this county...what would it be?

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  • too crazy to be trueNovember 24, 2013 - 6:34 pm

    Ray Nutting lit his ranch on fire again this week. One has to question his mental stability. This is becoming dangerously close to a sycophantic characteristics of an arson. Defenders of due process who's only mantra is innocence until conviction means anarchy over decency and common sense. He is unabashedly glad handing at every public event daily. He has proven that he lacks civility and common sense decency. Why do the good people of this county need to fund Ray Nutting's hi jinx? The Supervisor's need to stand up to this man and defund his office before someone gets hurt or worse.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 24, 2013 - 7:46 pm

    Too crazy to be true...the whole ranch? 650 acres--thats a lot of land. oh...were you just exaggerating..." One has to question his mental stability. This is becoming dangerously close to a sycophantic characteristics of an arson." If this strategy is the best you got--Id rethink my posts.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 24, 2013 - 7:58 pm

    "... lied and stole from the people of El dorado County." This is an interesting statement--lets play mad libs. ________ lied and stole money from the people of El dorado County. Who wants to play? Just fill in the underlined space with the name or names of elected and unelected people in this county who have lied and stolen from the people of El Dorado County. Then we will do a survey with the information...turn it over to staff..and ask that it be back in the BOS hands before--no after the holidays. And every five years--we can do it again. I can think of lots of names to put there--can you? To me taking donations and rerouting them-- is stealing...using money from TOT for no apparent reason other than someone "wants" to-- is stealing...so many things...so many names.

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  • Happy Valley HippieNovember 24, 2013 - 9:27 pm

    Looks like Fran is off her meds again. I would support a recall effort for Ray, and pitch in on a taxi ride to Puff for Fran

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  • Too crazy to be trueNovember 24, 2013 - 9:41 pm

    Fran, your guy Ray Nutting has and is still collecting a pay check while doing nothing. And yes Fran his whole ranch 320 acres. If he was a child we'd take away his matches and punish his parents.

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  • Ire ColeNovember 24, 2013 - 9:48 pm

    Does Nutjob really think he is not guilty. He must be stupid, stupid, stupid!

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  • Walt StacemamNovember 24, 2013 - 10:19 pm

    Did this piece of c*#p really start another fire.Do repeat drunk drivers get jail time? How about a arsonist?

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  • Nathan FoltzNovember 25, 2013 - 5:53 am

    How much has this all cost the taxpayer ? Has Ray paid anything ?

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  • Too CrazyNovember 25, 2013 - 6:35 am

    Fran is an interesting individual. She defends Nutting with the argument that all government is corrupt. She herself was a government worker. Does this mean she was either during her career? I wish she would stop defending Nutting by lumping the whole county in the same apple barrel as her and Nutting. Nutting claims daily that he has evidence to bring down other county employees that are as corrupt as him. He even has web sites asking for information against other employees that have been up for years. Still nothing. I do not believe our local government workers are corrupt or incompetent. It is clear with all the evidence that is out there regarding Nutting that Ray is both. It is also clear that Fran is at the very least one.

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  • TontoNovember 25, 2013 - 6:38 am

    "Always better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" Yes RayRay will have his day but at what expence, this County has been hurt enough by Ray and others like him just look at the record of past Stupidvisors and we all see, the only difference is his arrogance. Now his lust for fire has cost yet more innocent timber to be burnt..a timber man I think NOT..This village idiot needs serious help, too much smoke n mirrors Ray.No one could make this stuff up and RAYRAY shows us all that he can't stop ripping us off..a fund raiser to defend a thief, liar, embezzler etc. Really Ray we are not drinking your Koolaid nor do we believe anything you say or do, past/present or future, RayRay Go Away..

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  • Annon on Happy ValleyNovember 25, 2013 - 7:10 am

    As a neighbor, I have seen him yet again burn with very dangerous conditions. What will it take before something is done? I guess a Fireman needs to get hurt or killed before somebody stops him??? I will be going to Pioneer Fire Department to get another fire report to add to my collection.

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  • 1036-FrankNovember 25, 2013 - 8:32 am

    Another planted "press release" by the indicted one written by someone who tries to plant further accusations after their clear defeat in court. It is not often an appeal is heard or filed prior to conviction challenging the indictment. It was a fools errand and further delay and an expensive use of someone's money which must be really adding up. Nutting has tried every delay tactic motion, stunt, bluff, and appeal while using endless created drama and fiction to try to invent his innocence, when every charge, and many examples are signed by his own hand will prove his guilt. The fact he was not honorable enough to step down and has continued the charade has not made him any new friends, it has made this act overdue for the final curtain so that three new seats on the BOS can be filled.

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  • robertdnollNovember 25, 2013 - 8:54 am

    "innocent timber",,,,,"dude"

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  • Eileen P.November 25, 2013 - 10:24 am

    How do you spell stupid ? N. U. T. T. I. N. G and please keep sending money for my defense ! I need more . Suckers

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  • Clyde NeedhamNovember 25, 2013 - 12:25 pm

    Why is everybody picking on Raymond. He can't help himself. He's nuts and people who help him are nuts.Lock up the lot of them. Bye. Bye Baby Ray

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  • 2tall4agirlNovember 25, 2013 - 3:23 pm

    Hmmm....Ray's recent activities (false and ridiculous press release and yet another fire-worse than the others) has shifted this from stupid/arrogant/ narcissistic to obviously intentional sabotage for me. Why would he do that?? Well, since he has yet to come up with ANY defense (Sorry Ray, people are picking on you and being a dumb a** for not reporting income from grant money are NOT defenses) Well, if you scrape the bottom of the "defense barrel" what will always come up is the good old insanity defense aka The Devil Made Me Do It. And, who knows?? THAT just might work in his case. Anybody else notice a very strange and disturbing pattern. I just don't think Ray has hit his bottom yet...more crap to come El Dorado County; hang tight.

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  • William T.November 25, 2013 - 2:58 pm

    Did Ray Nutting ignite his ranch yet again on a non-burn day endangering his neighbors and the fire department employees to collect insurance money his has for his trees?

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  • REALLYNovember 25, 2013 - 5:08 pm

    Maybe we the people can have Ray removed for his mental state of mind; obiviously he has lost it with starting yet another fire during high winds on another Non-Burn day.Pyromaniac he is and has no regard for the safety of others or himself, family, friends or neighbors and that is a basis for a 72 hour commitment at the mental health unit. He wants us all to believe that he is in touch with himself when he sings songs at work and claims to be untouchable like superman.Everyone who thinks Ray is ok needs to help Ray get help before he hurts himself or others, he's not right in his head or world.

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  • D. WienerNovember 25, 2013 - 5:43 pm

    Give Ray more money.... he's going to need more!

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 6:23 pm

    rolling eyeballs...nice to see the regular comments..nothing new here.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 6:47 pm

    Innocent until proven guilty--I mean it just makes as much sense to me that someone else started a fire to set Ray up. You people are attacking a good man. Why not put your pettiness aside and leave him be?

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  • William TNovember 25, 2013 - 6:49 pm

    Nothing new? The man just lit his ranch on fire for the umteenth time? Fran you are as deranged as he is

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  • MorrisNovember 25, 2013 - 7:02 pm

    Fran...I'm with you on this one. Innocent until proven guilty. As for the rest, I see you as a pretty darn good judge of character. Hope you aren't disappointed on this one.

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  • 2tall4agirlNovember 25, 2013 - 7:20 pm

    Fran, why would anyone risk setting him up?? He doesn't need any help; he's a one man train wreck. If you feel he's such a good man, why don't you help him instead of making him look worse with your rambling psyco comments. He has clearly gone over the edge. Do you think someone wrote that press release and signed his name?? I think everyone would love to hear no more from Ray, but every time things quiet down he throws another stink bomb or two. Maybe Ray should leave the people of this county alone....no objection here

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 7:24 pm

    Since i didnt write it...lolololol I have no idea whats going on. Does anyone ever read...those words are not my "written voice"...lololol I think it is sad someone is trying to be me. Once they have been me for awhile...they will gladly give my name back....lolololol

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  • 2tall4agirlNovember 25, 2013 - 7:28 pm

    Oh poor silly Fran! No one believes you just like no one believes Nutting. You are truly a loyal supporter! Birds of a feather...

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 7:30 pm

    "pettiness" <----- I would never use this word. I grew up with money....this word and "peon" represent a shallowness that I cant even describe to anyone who has not grown up with those words....lololol heavy sigh. Im sorry to the person who wants to be me....be strong--be yourself. I have never wanted to be anyone but myself...I am always interested when someone doesnt have the "guts" to represent who they are.

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  • PatriceNovember 26, 2013 - 6:14 am

    No guts to represent themselves....you mean like cookie65?

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  • cookie65November 26, 2013 - 6:27 am

    Rent-free.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 7:21 pm

    lololol...Morris--I did not write this...lololol "Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 6:47 pm Innocent until proven guilty--I mean it just makes as much sense to me that someone else started a fire to set Ray up. You people are attacking a good man. Why not put your pettiness aside and leave him be?" lololol...omg....lolol Well alrighty then...lolololol

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 25, 2013 - 7:33 pm

    All I can say to the real Fran is these people are desperate and ridiculous...and they are the crazy, deranged or whatever other rude words they want to use...politics suck...

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  • oh brotherDecember 09, 2013 - 12:04 pm

    That's weird. I thought I NEVER capitalized my name.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 7:33 pm

    2tall4agirl it is a shame you cant to any real research ...wink.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 7:44 pm

    Oh brother...no worries...it is a game. If they want to pretend be me...they can. I find it amusing that they are so desperate that they have to use my name to start a fight. As far as Ray...all people deserve their day in court. He will have his. As far as being his best friend? I have never gotten a Christmas card...im hurt--best friends should send cards...esp. if they have known of each other for 20+ years...omg...lolololol

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 8:08 pm

    :) Since some did not understand the third grade site...here is vocabulary from a preschool site. Constitution: It is a set of rules that we live by. George Washington: He was the first President of the United States. The White House: The President of the United States lives there. Sorry unlike some sites-- I could not include the coloring pages that went with them. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Everyone is just going to have to be patient.

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  • 2tall4agirlNovember 25, 2013 - 8:17 pm

    Whaaat????? Gee Fran, thanks for that I think. Why don't you just stay on topic?? Bor-ring Oh, by the way, my 7 year old granddaughter told me a year ago that no one uses "lol" anymore. When I asked her why, she said "cuz it's stupid" she was right! Out of the mouths of babes. Certainly it's not something someone who grew up with money would use! Wink.

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  • PatriceNovember 26, 2013 - 6:20 am

    What part of innocent until proven guilty do you not understand? Why the venom at Fran? The real Fran did not write the post you have your panties in a bunch over! If you would shut your mouth and read and hear Fran's posts you just might learn something....I think.

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  • D. WienerNovember 25, 2013 - 8:13 pm

    Oh Brother aka Raymond Nutjob, These people may be crazy but they do not put other people in harms way. They do not cost the people of Eldorado County there hard earned money. They do not use there office to try to collect Housing monies. They do not collect Grant money and use phony invoices. They do not falsify there 700 statements. They do not use there election donations to purchase a home in another state. They do not contract with homeowners without a business or contractors license. They do not throw parties and endanger under age children.They do not snub there nose to the fire department and the laws of this and every County. They do not use absentee votes meant to be used by your sons.They do not lie to the Grand Jury. The people of this County deserve better in a County Supervisor. Raymond Nutting say hello to Bubba in the BIG HOUSE when you get there. Remember innocent people don't take plea deals.

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  • Bob ReevesNovember 25, 2013 - 8:20 pm

    Dear Fran: Raymond Nutting is not innocent until proven guilty, he is presumed innocent. This means he MIGHT be innocent!

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 8:36 pm

    Dear Bob, "The Supreme Court has ruled that, under some circumstances, a court should issue jury instructions on the presumption of innocence in addition to instructions on the requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt (Taylor v. Kentucky). A presumption of innocence instruction may be required if the jury is in danger of convicting the defendant on the basis of extraneous considerations rather than the facts of the case." He has not gone to court...we do not know all the facts. So either way...neither of us knows for sure. He might be...or not...I am not a lawyer or a judge. and I have never given my opinion on his case. Now isnt that interesting. what I have said is that a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Not here on this wall--with mud being slung everywhere.

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  • R SmithNovember 25, 2013 - 8:23 pm

    Given the hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars provided to unworthy elected department heads, it is understandable why people are scrambling to cast the first stone in Ray's direction. Fair weather friends are the worst enemies a person can have. I will support Ray until one of us is called home. If that makes me stupid then how does that help you? It makes me rejoice insomuch that it sets me apart form a group of obtuse soothsayers.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 8:25 pm

    How is it that people are talking about a bargain--when Ray hasnt gone to court? Where is the article of the newest fire...are you guys stocking Ray? wow. Interesting. I dont think Oh brother is Ray. Lets all sing...ready...okay-1-2-3. The trolls go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah The trolls go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah The trolls go marching one by one, The little one stops to suck her thumb And they all go marching down to the ground To get out of the rain, BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! See I already feel better...lololol

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  • 2tall4agirlNovember 25, 2013 - 8:32 pm

    Yikes!! Fran, take your meds and then go to bed. Maybe your delusions will clear up by morning. I'm sure grateful I didn't grow up with money....whew

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  • James E.November 25, 2013 - 8:37 pm

    Fran, not to worry. I enjoy your comments, and let's not take advice about LOL from a 7 year old.

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 25, 2013 - 8:43 pm

    The judicial system has always been a joke in this County...all of these ridiculous blogs just prove it...no I am not Ray, nor do I have an opinion on the situation. I do believe in honesty in the judicial/legal system and this county is greatly lacking...especially in having some class.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 8:40 pm

    2tall4agirl alas...I have no meds. lololol...It has been fun tonight...people who want to be me...people slinging mud...songs and jokes...I love this wall. lolololol

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  • robertdnollNovember 25, 2013 - 8:48 pm

    Fran, i believe someone is using your name and glad you're not bothered by that.It's a shame they can't or won't look in a mirror and feel good about themselves.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 8:51 pm

    2tall4agirl I would use something different than LOL...but I like it. The new word is "salts" --doesnt fit me as well...I love to laugh. and then there is always the more "risque" laughing acronyms. I suppose you have your "urban" dictionary out? rolling eyeballs...

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 25, 2013 - 8:56 pm

    Fran - I just feel sorry for this 2tall4agirl individuals' granddaughter...

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 8:55 pm

    robertdnoll It does not bother me...I actually had a lot of fun seeing the posts. I needed to laugh..it has been a long week. Much respect.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 9:03 pm

    Oh brother...you have an excellent night. Laughing out loud...because I really just love interactions with people. People can be so much fun. Good night everyone...this girl is tired.

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  • Bob ReevesNovember 25, 2013 - 9:17 pm

    Fran I think D Wiener had the facts correct.

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  • Bob ReevesNovember 25, 2013 - 9:35 pm

    Oh one more thing Fran. Do you really expect to get the Whole truth from the Mountain Democrat? You just get part of the truth. You have to do your own investigation to get to bottom of the well. Call Cal-Fire and call Pioneer Fire. Don't just sit on your fat a#s and pretend you know what he has done. Take the blinders off.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 10:05 pm

    Bob...this does make you sound like an authority figure that Id respect in my decision making process. " Don't just sit on your fat a#s and pretend you know what he has done." I havent pretended anything..I came right out and said that I was not a lawyer or a judge...nor a personal friend that has ever been to his property. I hope life gets better for you. I find when people are "mean" they are losing. Are you losing Bob? Okay folks--no need to call me...Bob wants to play...and I dont. But thank you for the shout out. Good night.

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  • Bob ReevesNovember 25, 2013 - 10:25 pm

    Then look at the facts.

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  • MorrisNovember 26, 2013 - 4:16 am

    OMFNG...We have a Fake Fran now??? Wow. It's flattering in a creepy kind of way; like that Mandrell sister they made use a dead mic while mouthing 'watermelon bananna pineapple' through each chorus. She had that glazed over 'My Name is BARBARAA!!!' look upon her sweet tortured smile.

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  • PatriceNovember 26, 2013 - 6:38 am

    Clever and funny! Yep, some get their kicks starting fires besides Ray. Many unhappy people in this county.

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  • William TNovember 26, 2013 - 7:13 am

    May be there's a fake Ray also... http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/11/25/el-dorado-county-investigators-fire-prevention-activities-under-scrutiny-again/ The real one is too strange to be true

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 7:20 am

    Maybe Will...did you miss this sentence, "There’s no indication of criminal wrongdoing;"...

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 7:45 am

    The one thing that is great about this..is look at all the new names writing...the MD should be thankful for all the newbies here. I am still interested in the fact I have never said one way or another how I feel about the case...are you all guessing? Making assumptions? Are people on a Grand Jury suppose to voice their opinion on the cases they are working on? Or would make the whole trial--a mistrial? so many questions...not enough answers. I picture this flock of people standing next to each other watching Ray...moving as a group. Look he did this...and this...wait the public will love this...you guys have become his fans--you guys are giving him publicity...interesting. Just like any other story...if you dont respond...it dies. Viva El Ray...keep the story alive...salts.

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  • GrizzNovember 26, 2013 - 8:19 am

    Now that Fran has spoken and she feels that everyone is hanging on her words as Ozz then we need to listen;"Innocent till proven.. Well let's listen to Ray when interviewed by Ms. Cole chanel 13 and his comments.. Ray has told us all yes he started the fires, on non-burn days, yes they went out of control and look at the list of fire responses to his ranch, yes he paid $10,000.00 when it was billed/reduced from $100,000.00 and yes he spent tax payer's $$ and will continue to do so...Facts out of Ray's mouth not anyone else or pretending to be Ray/Fran etc.So listen to Ray as he has spoken and his actions speak louder, he thinks we will/should believe him about the six mill he has stolen and the countless jobs he gave out to friends n lies he still tells.Look in the mirror Ray and see who really has done this Ray and check out your IRS as they're looking at you Ray and the Federal Authorties are too. Hard to hide behind" everyone has done this to me" when you see Ray cutting green trees not dried brush and burning w/o permits on non-burn days and passing illegal fire taxes and stealing grant money and drinking and driving and oh yeah falling trees on neighbor's cars and illegal campaign signs and the list goes on and on..The Nutting/Wiener Ranch will be burnt piece of clearcut ground that only Ray's cash crop will grow indoors in all of his illegal trailers w/o sewer or permits. Probably better let it all burn next fire Ray as the County will sieze it soon for all the illegal activity there, thanks Ray for putting "HAPPY" in the Happy Valley Road, gee sounds like the "High" in High Sierra Ranch that another Supervisor had before being caught....Look over your shoulder Ray as the "Feds are coming now" get rid of the stash/slash Ray.."What ya gonna do when they come for you"

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  • observerNovember 26, 2013 - 8:25 am

    Grizz, getting Ray means a lot to you.

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  • William TNovember 26, 2013 - 8:45 am

    I'm not sure what "getting Ray" means. Is it getting Ray to stop lighting his ranch on fire jeopardizing lives and property? Is it getting Ray to stop embezzling monies set aside to avoid people like Ray from burning down his ranch jeopardizing lives and property. Is it getting Ray to face reality and step down from Supervisor for committing crimes he's already admitted to? Or is it just getting Ray to stop being Ray and a complete embarrassment, for the love of man kind?

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  • 2tall4agirlNovember 26, 2013 - 9:07 am

    No one is "getting Ray" but himself! No one is" picking on" Ray but himself. No one is forcing him to break the law and be a dumb a**, but himself. Then he gets defensive when he's caught. All that's left now is the punishment. The longer his trial is delayed, the more damage he can do. Remember, we the taxpayers, are footing a lot of the bills for his "poor judgment"

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  • Sue TaylorNovember 26, 2013 - 9:06 am

    Hang in there Fran, I'm guessing those making personal attacks are all the same person. In fact I think that person lost track of which alias said what.

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  • taxpayerNovember 26, 2013 - 9:14 am

    My, my, my ------------ very defensive Grizz, 2tall and WmT.

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 26, 2013 - 10:30 am

    taxpayer - don't forget justice insider, walking tall,1036-frank, d.weiner and the rest of the district attorneys sidekicks and cohorts...

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 26, 2013 - 9:21 am

    Fran...Just F.Y.I....I left you a message on Face Book....

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  • 1036-FrankNovember 26, 2013 - 9:40 am

    As said by many, it is way past time to step down for Nutting and move off the stage so the voters can select his replacement. He further needs to face the consequences of his actions without trying to stay on the BOS and use it for a tool for stunts for his defense and way past time to quit the charade and act and the huge waste of someone's money . He has admitted to all of the things charged from what has been reported, he did try to file some "Do-overs" that the law doesn't allow and he also faces the nearly same set of charges filed by the Sac County DA against another corrupt public official there showing that Nutting is just another example of the same. The difference? The other guy immediately stepped down and the board asked for his resignation without all this foolish drama that is going on here.

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  • Justice InsiderNovember 26, 2013 - 10:03 am

    Sic 'm, Frank.

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  • TontoNovember 26, 2013 - 11:17 am

    Must going to be a long winter "White Man" cut n burn lot o firewood but not supposed to burn Forest down around house, warm in Nutcase house ....

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 11:18 am

    RJ.. Well hopefully it was a nice one. I didnt see it :) Fran

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 11:19 am

    Everyone behave...off for a shot...ouch >:(

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 11:22 am

    Thanks Sue...im good. It was odd checking in to watch myself write...lololol I waited for awhile to see where it was going. shrugging shoulders. Happy Holidays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • R.j. CarterNovember 26, 2013 - 1:14 pm

    Fran, yes it was a nice massage......Anyway, to find it you might go to your messages on the far left hand side of your home page "just below where it says "NEWS FEED"...Then after your in messages click on "OTHER" just to the right of "INBOX...It should be there...

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 1:20 pm

    RJ Im a tester in FB...my screen looks different than others :) but ill go look again.

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  • Happy Thanksgiving Mr. Nutting & Family & All!November 26, 2013 - 1:26 pm

    "Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need." Hebrews 4:16 Time to Think... God shapes the world by prayer- Dear Lord, thank You for the unity You give us when we pray for each other.

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 26, 2013 - 7:22 pm

    Thank you for all of your posts!! Nice to see believers posting and helping us remember what life really is about!! God Bless!!

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    nope...nothing...but thanks for sending me to my home page --an old friend was there from LA...it was nice to see their face on my wall.

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  • God Bless You! All! This Thanksgiving Day! Much Love & Laughter & Joy & Thanks!November 26, 2013 - 1:29 pm

    Yes -Thoughts & Prayers This Thanksgiving Sent Out To All!

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  • Amen...November 26, 2013 - 1:30 pm

    & Amen

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  • shaken not stirredNovember 26, 2013 - 1:37 pm

    Trailers! Did I read trailers? Nothing says "defender of the little guy" more than helping out the disadvantaged. Besides Happy Valley Haven has a nice ring to it.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 1:44 pm

    RJ...I found it...yrs ago I signed up for different things...my screen many times is not like others...makes life both interesting and harder. It was not on the left. but thank you. Last night was so "odd" seeing someone write under my name while I was watching...strange...lololol.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 3:54 pm

    Too Crazy...I just read your comment..me corrupt...lolololol. when did I become the scariest person in this county...my friends are going to love this. I did make $23,000 one year (my highest pay in this county--working for the county for 19 yrs.). of course that was 15 hr days/7 days a week...and included part of the week end...lolol. I love this. My friends would love this. I gave up real money to teach--because I loved it...not because of the money. I had to work two and three jobs to support my working for the county. Apple hill...mini mart/gas station...a deli... I would not have traded one moment from working with kids...not for a cent more. But thanks for the laughs...lololol...omg. See and I am such a gentle soul. You are making a great case in Rays favor by attacking me. Most people that actually know me, know that im not materialistic at all. And I have no yearning to be "Queen." I would like to see more jobs in the county--so that people I know can feed their kids...and maybe afford to take them to a movie one day. I am sorry--it must be frightening to be afraid of a disabled grandmother. I havent laughed so hard --well in "ever"...much respect.

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  • Bob ReevesNovember 26, 2013 - 6:00 pm

    Someone in a past post,mentioned absentee ballots.So earlier today I went to the Elections Board and got the voting records for the three Nutting boys.They have all voted numerous times through the years. I did this for a very good reason, a couple of years ago my friends son ( who is a good friend of one of the Nutting boys who now lives in South Dakota) was told that he has never voted.So if the Nutting boy has never voted and the absentee votes all go to Raymond Nuttings house, then who is voting for them? Could Raymond Nutting also be guilty of Voter Fraud. Is this something the District Attorney should also look at.I certainly hope so. Oh and by the way Fran, Raymond admitted to starting the fire again on his property. No one accept Raymond Nutting is responsible.

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 26, 2013 - 6:07 pm

    test

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 6:19 pm

    Bob--you read a post--I did not write...sorry--someone was writing for me last night--without my consent. Now I have a question...are people from a grand Jury that had anything to do with Rays case allow to talk about it? Any of the jury or their family members? I did not write this "Fran DuchampNovember 25, 2013 - 6:47 pm Innocent until proven guilty--I mean it just makes as much sense to me that someone else started a fire to set Ray up. You people are attacking a good man. Why not put your pettiness aside and leave him be?"...so once again you are making incorrect assumptions....take your fight to someone else.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 6:21 pm

    Im starting to feel bad for you Bob...are you saying the justice system can not do its job? Ray will have his day in court. Picking on me...means nothing--sorry.

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  • Mary Randolph, CaminoNovember 26, 2013 - 6:54 pm

    Either way it goes, the nightmare for the Ray Nutting and his family will be over with Ray's verdict, I guarantee the official investigation into Bob Reeves and a nightmare for his entire family will begin immediately afterwards...

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  • Oh BrotherNovember 26, 2013 - 7:02 pm

    Yes Mr. Reeves, are you one of the grand jury of no??

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  • oh brotherDecember 09, 2013 - 10:14 am

    Oh do you? Do you guarantee it Mary Randolph of Camino? And exactly how do you plan to make good on that guarantee? The same way others of your ilk are going to get the auditor/controller, DA, Deputy AG and anyone else who disagrees with them prosecuted? Riiiiiiiight. You're all just a bunch of impotent blowhards. Ray is the only one being prosecuted because Ray is the only one involved in illegal activities. If you have proof otherwise, put up or SHUT UP.

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  • oh sisterDecember 09, 2013 - 10:26 am

    fake o.b. you're seem a little hot under the collar

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  • EldoradoNovember 26, 2013 - 7:23 pm

    Bob Reeves....Are you scared to go to jail???.....Innocent people don't take plea bargains. ...It's coming.

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  • Bob ReevesNovember 26, 2013 - 7:50 pm

    I'm not trying to pick on you Fran, its just that your so oblivious when it comes to reality. You should look at the paper trail that Raymond Nutting has left. Look at his self-righteousness when it comes to the law. Public officials serve as stewards of public agency resources, these resources are not to be used for the personal benefit of Raymond Nutting! I have gone out and looked at hundreds of pages of paperwork, I have spoken with at least a hundred people about Raymond Nutting conduct as a Supervisor.There are standards for ethical behavior. As a Supervisor he is held to a higher standard.Ethical values as trustworthiness, respect, responsibility and fairness are the values that we the people expect in a County Supervisor.I do not sit back and form an opinion, I go out and get one, investigating is how I determine my view point.

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  • In the KnowNovember 26, 2013 - 8:54 pm

    From the first time Ray was elected until now he has always thought of himself first and taken liberties with the position on the BOS, he has only one agenda and that is to further his wealth at the expense of the county residents. Ray has always felt his position on the BOS was his right to steal and embezzle money, he further added to his list of duties by appointing numerous people to positions which he controlled and took money from.Ray has threatened people who didn't go along or who opposed him in any way, in the last election he threatened George Turnboo with his life if George exposed Ray and sent his crime partners to George to carry out Ray's threats. Ray threatened private property owners if they posted campaign signs on their private property. The list of illegal activity that Ray has committed is so large that the DA will have to just list them as too many to count. Illegal activity involving underage drinking resulting in injury/death on the ranch along with all the fires and supression costs. The theft of County intrusted money and illegal measures that he passed along with illegal campaign funds and requests of County contracted employees to give money to him. Six millon dollars is nothing to ignore and the purchase of a home paid for in cash out of state without any accounting of the funds aquired, Ray has admitted numerous felonies yet he still is allowed to sit on the BOS as a lame duck. With all of this we are to feel sorry for this criminal and help defend his illegal activity, I do not think so; Ray have your day and when it's all over you will never hurt this county and residents from within the confines of the jail/prison. Think about how you failed the very people who trusted you and gave you money and then try to justify why you should be given another chance to steal.

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  • In the KnowNovember 26, 2013 - 9:13 pm

    Trust me. I am In the Know.

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  • In the KnowNovember 26, 2013 - 9:15 pm

    Really. I am In the Know.

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  • Fran DuchampNovember 26, 2013 - 9:37 pm

    Bob...you keep thinking that im someone important--im not. . I am not part of the local government. I am not a lawyer, or an investigator, or a judge. I am a disabled grandmother--thats it. I believe in America. I believe in the Constitution. I believe everyone in America under our constitution, has the right to a trial. I believe all people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I do not write articles about any of the players in this drama. I am against advisory boards in Pollock Pines...and economic groups. Whoever you thought I was--you were wrong. Your assumptions are wrong. Your facts pertaining to me--are wrong. You and I are done. One last time...I know the Nutting s as people who have done many really good things in my community. I have been to many events where Ray and his family have been. ( I have been a volunteer up here for 20+ years.) I have never been to their home...but I am thankful to Ray and his family for helping in the many events that we have had-- to raise money. That s it Bob...nothing more. No big secrets here. No blinders on..just experience at fund raisers.

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  • shaken not stirredNovember 26, 2013 - 9:41 pm

    Ask his^ wife ehhhh Morgan Fairchild. Yea that's the ticket.

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