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Obama’s HUD chief taking aim at suburban lifestyle

From page A1 | December 27, 2013 | 82 Comments

Unchastened by the fiasco created by the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare), the Obama Administration is pushing ahead with yet another program aimed at “transforming” America.

Although still under discussion, a new rule proposed by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) called “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing,” aims to integrate housing and give people access to better neighborhoods than the ones they currently live in.

A knockoff of affirmative action, the idea is for HUD to provide states, local governments and other entities that receive HUD money with data and a geospatial tool to look at “patterns of integration and segregation; racially and ethnically concentrated areas of poverty; (and) access to education, employment, low-poverty, transportation, and environmental health.”

States would then assess the best way to integrate communities not integrated enough, according to HUD’s information.

Shaun Donovan, who is the secretary of HUD and a leading advocate of using federal power to create what he calls “sustainable communities,” announced the program in a speech he gave at a NAACP convention held in July.

The American Dream still isn’t within equal reach of all communities, he lamented, saying there is a lack of diversity in America’s boardrooms, schools, and the nation’s strongest neighborhoods.

“We have got to shape a future where ladders of opportunity are available for all Americans,” Donovan said. “For African-Americans, this is critically important. Historically, for this community, the rungs on these ladders have been too far apart — making it harder to reach the middle class.”

Donovan said HUD’s new neighborhood mapping tool, which uses census data for every neighborhood in the country, would detail the access African-American, Latino, Asian, and other communities have to local assets, including schools, jobs, transportation, and other important neighborhood resources that can play a role in helping people move into the middle class.

“Make no mistake, this is a big deal,” Donovan said in his speech. “With the HUD budget alone, we are talking about billions of dollars. And as you know, decades ago, these funds were used to support discrimination. Now, they will be used to expand opportunity and bring communities closer to the American Dream.”

HUD has estimated compliance costs would range from $3 million to $9 million each year, however those numbers might be low considering the cost of all the lawsuits the new rule would engender.

Donovan boasted that 25,000 people have already been awarded damages due to “housing discrimination” and promised more to come. At the convention, he called on attendees to continue lobbying Congress to give more money and power to the administration as it works to “transform America.”

According to a summary of the rule, it has four primary goals. One is to improve integrated living patterns and overcome historical patterns of segregation. Another is to reduce racial and ethnic concentrations of poverty. A third is to reduce disparities by race, color, religion, sex, familial status, national origin, or disability in access to community assets such as education, transit access, and employment. The fourth is to respond to the housing needs of protected classes.

HUD said the new rule also ties in with its grants to regional authorities to help build “sustainable” cities by relocating people near public transportation, jobs and services.

HUD plans to enforce the rule by attaching it to funding programs, including Community Development Block Grants, HOME Investment Partnerships, Emergency Solutions Grant, and Housing Opportunities for Persons with AIDS.

Pressure would also be applied using zoning laws, housing finance policy, infrastructure planning and transportation to alleviate alleged discrimination and segregation.

Assisting them in implementing the rule would be non-governmental organizations who would be eligible for grants.

However, the proposed rule already has its share of critics. Ed Pinto who is with the American Enterprise Institute, is quoted as saying, “This is just the latest of a series of attempts by HUD to social engineer the American people. It started with public housing and urban renewal, which failed spectacularly back in the ’50s and ’60s. They tried it again in the ’90s when they wanted to transform house finance, do away with down payments, and the result was millions of foreclosures and financial collapse.”

The proposed rule would also seem to be at odds with the idea of fostering a sense of community. According to a recent study at Michigan State University published in the November edition of the American Journal of Community Psychology, “community and diversity may be fundamentally incompatible goals.”

The study notes that, “integration provides opportunities for intergroup contact that are necessary to promote respect for diversity, but may prevent the formation of dense interpersonal networks that are necessary to promote sense of community.”

The authors of the study concluded that the more diverse or integrated a neighborhood is, the less socially cohesive it becomes, while the more homogeneous or segregated it is, the more socially cohesive.

The proposed rule also comes at the time of a contentious fight between New York’s Westchester County and the Obama administration over a desegregation settlement in which the county agreed to build 750 affordable houses and flats in majority-white communities and market them to nonwhites currently living in New York City.

HUD has since cut off $17 million in funding to Westchester because it refused to sue local municipalities to modify their zoning ordinances to accommodate more subsidized housing. HUD claims the ordinances, which set limits on building density, are racially “exclusionary.”

However, according to Westchester County Executive Robert Astorino, “Washington bureaucrats, who you will never see or meet, want the power to determine who will live where and how each neighborhood will look. What’s at stake is the fundamental right of our cities, towns, and villages to plan and zone for themselves.

“HUD has said that even quarter-acre (lot) single-family zoning, in their view, may very well be discriminatory and perpetuate ‘segregation,’” Astorino said. “And must be looked at, and even maybe attacked.”
Claiming that what is happening in his community will happen everywhere, Astorino said, “The battle for zoning in Westchester County (will be) the battle everywhere.”

Local county planning officials were contacted for a comment but they were unaware of the proposed new rule since it has yet to go into effect.

Contact Dawn Hodson at 530-344-5071 or Follow @DHodsonMtDemo on Twitter.


Discussion | 82 comments

  • TruthwillsetyoufreeDecember 26, 2013 - 12:24 pm

    Unchastened by her last "opinion" rant on the ACA, Dawn Hodson yet again tries to instill baseless fear in our community. Like your last article, this on too is based on supposition. This program is a consideration, it's not a done deal and states would ultimately decide on where to use funding. I thought that concept, state control would appeal to your Tea Party troll leanings. I too can site studies on the benefits of diversity in communities, why does that thought scare you so Dawn? The disparity between classes is greater now, we need to do more to lift all of us up. We benefit as a nation when we do this, lower crime rate, higher incomes which result in more tax money etc.... It's the trend now for conservatives to hate and spread fear versus working together for the benefit of our country. I suggest the Mt. Democrat add a fiction section featuring Dawn. Our community is better served with fact on page 1.

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  • R J CarterDecember 26, 2013 - 1:13 pm

    Kinda funny someone would post something anonymously under the name " Truthwillsetyoufree" .......

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 26, 2013 - 7:49 pm

    Well now! Isn't this is the PERFECT avenue leading from "No San Stino" and arriving at "Yes San Stino". How can you protest? If you nimbys continue to say "no san stino" then you are nimby racists! . . . . HUD, The new "block buster".

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  • TruthwillsetyoufreeDecember 26, 2013 - 11:40 pm

    Sure Phil, I will believe a possible program STILL UNDER discussion by the government with all it's bureaucratic red tape will affect San Stino...when pigs fly.

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  • Phil VeerkampDecember 27, 2013 - 8:24 am

    Truthfully, what IS the lifespan of metaphor?

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  • CaMomDecember 27, 2013 - 7:53 am

    So let me get this straight - People start out their lives living wherever their parents have worked up to... then they get education and continue their lives wherever they work themselves up to. Those of us who have been able to work up to living in a nice suburban neighborhood, with nice suburban neighbors who have also worked themselves up, are now supposed to subsidize those who don't choose to get education, work their way up the job ladder, to get themselves into suburbia??? No thank you. I want neighbors who appreciate where they live, what they have, and know how to work to make those things possible. Moving people who choose to live off the system into hard-working suburban neighborhoods will do exactly one thing - bring those suburban neighborhoods down. Anyone who can't envision that is just plain blind.

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  • Gaspen AspenDecember 27, 2013 - 8:36 am

    Forcing neighborhoods to take in lower class people for the sake of it is not going to work. Then add in certain ethnic back grounds and you have now created yet another crime infested 'hood'. The property values will decline immediately and the neighborhoods will turn into trash. That is REALITY!

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  • Russell AndersDecember 27, 2013 - 9:27 am

    It is hard to believe the lengths this administration will go to "socially engineer" us into an Orwellian nightmare. I have asked many people about the direction we are going and it is hard to believe how many have not even hear of George Orwell and his novels. What the heck are they teaching in schools that people don't have a sense of what can happen when government gets so large that it intrudes into every facet of our lives? It is almost predictable that in Obama's narcissistic mind he would like nothing better than to create some kind of crisis that would empower him to suspend elections in 2016 and declare martial law to remain in power. His unlawful, unconstitutional unilateral changing of our laws is despicable. How congress and the people of this country can allow him to continue to do these acts is beyond comprehension. Now he wants to introduce into every neighborhood some kind of "diversity" in the hope of absurd and frightful.

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  • cookie65December 27, 2013 - 9:58 am

    Just another form of Crony Capitalism. Those who produce nothing should not be denied the same fruits of those who do. This is how leftism makes everyone equal by reducing the standard of living for everyone. But it is sold as elevating the standard of those less fortunate and when the knowable results occur, destruction to be specific, they will blame all their usual villains. The disease of leftism is forever feeding on the destruction of people under the fraudulent guise of compassion. The middle class is their target for destruction. Here is how leftism fairs in an open and fair free market.

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  • 1036-FrankDecember 27, 2013 - 5:13 pm

    I can see it now, HUD govt. green busses full of the " lack of achievement syndrome people" being driven to the brand new HUD mandated neighborhoods and new housing "projects" in the formerly "nice areas" reminds me of the forced bussing school disasters and the new trans-gender bathrooms, locker rooms and sports teams. Liberalism is not only a mental disorder, it is a menace.

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  • TruthwillsetyoufreeDecember 27, 2013 - 5:38 pm

    Irrational fear running rampant, I knew this would happen. Your minds automatically create worse case scenarios. Funny, Bush damaged our country so very badly and I bet you were all quiet then. In comes a black President and suddenly he's coming for your guns, rewriting the Constitution, and turning us into a socialist country. You are brainwashed, small minded, compassionless lackeys. Keep up the crazy folks. It just makes it all the easier for Hillary 2016.

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  • EvelynDecember 27, 2013 - 8:30 pm

    Truth: "In comes a black President . . . " ........... You really think this is the nub of the matter?

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  • Dee#1December 27, 2013 - 6:15 pm

    Reading the comments from the Leftist these last few days has lead me to the conclusion that Leftists have become completely unhinged by the failure and incompetence of the Obama Administration. One can almost smell their fear of the coming collapse.

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  • PatriceDecember 27, 2013 - 7:27 pm

    No fear here. I think what you are smelling is the garbage in your own back yard!

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 9:43 am

    Congratulations!!!, this comment is as intellectually dishonest as you claiming not to be a leftist. Fear is central to all leftism. It is used endlessly to manipulate and influence people. Leftism is fully dependent on fear. Fear is how leftism establishes control over people and causes them to sacrifice freedom and liberty. Without the invention and creation of some nemesis based on fear leftism has no purpose. Fear controls you and renders you nothing more than a useful idiot.

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  • 1036-FrankDecember 27, 2013 - 6:18 pm

    Bush's numbers across the board which are without dispute prove that the clueless candidate Bummer, the Alinsky liberal-loon and his 40 multiplying thieves, were everything people knew they would be. Throwing the race card, as a desperate distraction which the people aren't buying anymore, is an empty-headed clueless attack of admitted failure. The massive new numbers of people put into poverty, Under Ali-Bummer don't lie, but liars will lie about the numbers.

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  • Dee#1December 27, 2013 - 6:35 pm

    Frank, I see the Leftists hysteria is apparent to you also. They seem to be leaving facts, common sense and logic behind. One can only feel pity for the poor souls

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  • 1036-FrankDecember 27, 2013 - 6:46 pm

    Hello Dee#1, liberals are like the few fans still cheering after their team is down by 50 points and the rest of their fans have a bag over their heads. Maybe, they think, by being loud and throwing the race card, they can avoid the reality of the numbers which are the truth and are non-partisan. I do feel sorry for the people, still enamored by speeches masking the failure. who will be so blind to not even see the numbers put out of the work force and into poverty and called the "Hope and Changes."

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  • TruthwillsetyoufreeDecember 27, 2013 - 6:51 pm

    I wouldn't be surprised if you all still checked under your beds at night.

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  • Dee#1December 27, 2013 - 6:59 pm

    Frank, so true. Hope you a wonderful Christmas.

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  • Dee#1December 27, 2013 - 7:00 pm

    Hope you "had " a wonderful Christmas

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  • 1036-FrankDecember 27, 2013 - 7:45 pm

    Dee#1, My Christmas is always blessed and I hope the same for you and a Happy New Year! And the same to all, for most of us, as conservatives, we are always the optimist and we look forward to the future as it is bright.

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  • Dee#1December 27, 2013 - 8:28 pm

    Thank you Frank. We had a great time and love honoring the reason for the season.

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  • TruthwillsetyoufreeDecember 27, 2013 - 10:05 pm

    Yes I really do. I believe that the contempt you have for liberals mixed with race equals the unjustified level of hate and disrespect this President has suffered. From the Republican do nothing Congress, to the Tea Party crazies. The man standing in front of the a White House with the confederate flag to calling President Obama a Muslim born in Africa. Deep down you all dislike and fear him. Not for the phony socialist agenda you claim he has. That in itself is laughable! I never hear a word of praise for the economy he helped recover, the war he ended, the war he's trying to end, equal pay for women, etc. you put love of party over country. Your hate is so unfounded that you must all lie to constantly try to justify that which is so irrational. Which does lead me to believe that at your core, whether it's conscious or not his race is an issue with you. Of course, you will all deny this, accuse me of playing race card, yadayada. Not buying it.

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 6:23 am

    Were you in a coma during the eight years of Bush? I can't remember aII the bumper stickers around that said buck fush. I never have seen one that says buck ofama. I guess you don't recaII the encouraging words from peIosi procIaiming $2/gaI gas and 5.5% unempIoyement a faiIed economy. The thing that isoIates your type into camp Ioonatic is your abiIity to dish out vitrioI, hatred faIse accustation and then you curI up in a IittIe baII and cry Iike babies when your messianic dreams are crashed on the rocks of reaIity and bIame everyone eIse for it. You eIected a fraud and skin pigmentation has nothing to do with it.

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  • Michael KobusDecember 28, 2013 - 8:10 am

    2500 years ago, Plato wrote, "The Republic". One of the first substantive works on social engineering and trying to create the "Just Man", where all are equal and all are the same. 2000 years ago the Romans took all the Jews out of Palestine and dispersed them throughout the empire in an attempt to integrate them into Roman society. Look how well that worked. So for 2500 hundred years we have been trying to figure out how to make mankind less diverse and more homogenized. Why? Should we not celebrate our tribalism, the basic foundation of who a person is and who they attribute themselves to? People of the same nature will always congregate together. The key is to recognize diversity, accept it, and invite diversity to the table. It always amazes me that when I sit down with people that I am totally at odds with, and there is a cohesive dialogue, how much in common we have. We will never all be the same, thankfully. And we don't need the government to force social engineering upon us through HUD grants. Plato tried that 2500 years ago.

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 9:15 am

    When the Romans encountered opposition rather than submission they salted the fields. Submission has been and always will be the keystone of enlightenment leading to utopia. The paradigm has never changed, there are those who hold the secret to happiness for all, if people were just smart enough to submit to them. The lie of leftism has always pursued equality by force. Even today the AP (not known for reality based reporting) is having an epiphany from an otherwise aII Ieftism/aII the time bias. Perhaps next they will accidentally report on the out of control crime rates in these same neighborhoods.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 9:29 am

    Cookie I have an Obama sticker on my car. Aside from having people constantly flipping me off (and I don't need to hear some idiot post that it is my driving) I have had people speed up beside me berate me and call me a "N" lover and rant wildly. I have never even looked at a car with a Bush or Romney bumper sticker because I believe in freedom of speech. Don't you dare say this has nothing to do with race. Maybe not for you but for a lot of people it does.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 9:34 am

    BTW My Clinton stickers never never never caused such rage!

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 9:36 am

    Bill Clinton that is. Although I am getting ready to put my Hillary sticker on.

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  • EvelynDecember 28, 2013 - 9:47 am

    "Conservatives tend to believe that the captains of industry are virtuous and that the government can’t be trusted. Liberals tend to believe that government servants are virtuous and that corporations can’t be trusted. But the truth is that psychopaths are psychopaths … whether they’re in the private sector or government. And there is no such thing as representative government or free market capitalism anymore. Big corporate money has coopted the government; and ill-guided politicians have destroyed the free market." - HERE

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 9:50 am

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  • EvelynDecember 28, 2013 - 9:57 am

    Say it ain't so, Cookie. (Well, at least it's only in Sacramento.)

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 9:42 am

    I'm sorry I am flabbergasted. Do You people honestly think racism has ended in this country. "Denial ain't no river in Egypt"

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  • EvelynDecember 28, 2013 - 9:52 am

    Patty: Far be it from me to suggest that either racism or stupidity has ended. Both are alive and well. I, however, deny that my response to Barack Obama is racially motivated. I dislike Hillary as well. Surely you would not suggest that this relates to her being white and/or female.

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 10:01 am

    Would you like to go back in time and undo all the damage the left has done to race relations and perhaps change the frequency with which they have thrown the race card at anyone and everyone as an excuse to the point where the word racism has been diminished to mean anyone who disagrees with obama? They have done the same thing to the word hate. They throw at anyone and everyone who disagrees with them. There are consequences for not being able to defend what the left forces on people, and one of those consequences is the diminished meanings of some very important words. The moral of the story is don't cry wolf unless there truly is a wolf. Racism can be defined a number of ways, what would you call the black community voting for obama at a rate of 95+% based entirely on the color of his skin? Is that racism?

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 9:59 am

    Eveyln I am not accusing YOU of being a racist. I am responding to Cookie who says "skin pigmentation has nothing to do with it." She is living in her own crazy world!

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 10:30 am

    You take me out of context. My point was comparing the left's opposition to Bush and the left's attempt to paint anyone's opposition to obama as being racism. You guys have beat that word into oblivion. I find it completely unhinged how the left orchestrated endless undermining and ruthless attacks on Bush well beyond his Presidency and anything the right says about obama is racism. I guess you figured his ancestry would protect him from criticism. That would mean that you make the color of his skin the central issue in everything. Symbolism over substance. The left assigns themselves free reign to criticize anyone they choose with the most vile of attacks imaginable and hide behind the race card if anyone even breathes a breath of criticism toward obama. The double standard isn't working. People have stopped being cowered down by the left's tactics. You are going to have to try some new strategy to cover up obama's destruction of this country. I don't blame obama's race for his utter incompetence, I blame his evil ideology.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 10:17 am

    Cookie, Please don't use the word hate when referring to the left. The vile hate and disrespect I hear directed at this President is far and beyond any I have seen in my lifetime! Is it the Tea Pots? IDK but I do know the majority of Tea Pots are white and funny thing on Social Security. What can I say? Hypocrites, racists, trolls. IDK

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  • Dee#1December 28, 2013 - 10:28 am

    Cookie, reading Patty's missives is a perfect example of the unhinged Leftists.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 10:28 am

    Cookie Do you know your history? I'm sorry you can't equally compare black and white. You just can't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 10:50 am

    How long now has the left been pushing forth the concept that race needs to be a non-factor in everything? But here you are just like the rest of them making it the ONLY issue. I couldn't care less if he was green with yellow polka dots. All I care about is his endless attack on freedom and liberty. The same goes for the entirety of the tyrannical left. My observations and disdain of leftism didn't originate with obama. You mental midgets figured you had a built in defense on your march toward socialism because of his skin color. You valued him because you figured his skin color could be used to protect his actions. You were right for a little while but he has done so much damage at this point it isn't working anymore and you guys sound like a broken record.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 10:49 am

    Cookie "evil Ideology" Much to my dismay, Obama is farther right than Clinton was. I don't get it. Racism?

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 10:59 am

    The leftist blogs have co-opted your ability to form an original thought, if you ever possessed the ability. Those progressives who operate those sites are the definition of mental illness and should have a "parental guidance suggested" page for people as easily influenced as yourself.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 10:56 am

    Dee Do you realize the crazy Tea Pots have made sure a Republican will never be voted in any time soon? Call me an "unhinged leftist" but I am the majority!

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 11:05 am

    Here is your majority.

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 11:14 am

    You made an earlier comment on the frequency with which you are accosted due to your obama sticker. And you now claim that those people are the minority? You made it sound like there are an awful lot of those in the minority. Make up your mind.

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 11:30 am

    Bolshevik - a fake majority.

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  • Dee#1December 28, 2013 - 11:12 am

    Patty, you do realize that a Republican that continues the growth of government, less individual freedom , more regulation, higher taxes and more poverty for the citizenry does not provide a change from the current disaster. Also, I operate from principles not from someone else's ideology. Patty, I consider those unhinged who can only repeat talking memos from their masters, call names and exhibit vile threats with increasing urgency. Reading the current missives from the Leftists tools shows the desperation they feel of having to face the lying, incompetence and disregard of the Constitution by the current Administration. Hillary or Jeb Bush, the result will be the same.

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  • Dee#1December 28, 2013 - 11:16 am

    Patty, as far as being the majority, it means you are one many who in this moment of time have control. That power can be lost in a heartbeat and you better hope that the next majority is more tolerant and freedom loving than the Leftist despots that are now in charge.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 11:26 am

    UMMMMM Cookie I am the majority in this country! Obviously I am not the majority in El Dorado County!

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 11:41 am

    Convincing you that you are the majority requires even less effort than it took to get you to drink the koolaid of hope and change. And did you ever get made a fool of on that one. I guess if you believe a majority of Americans prefer government dependence over freedom and liberty exists, but I would like to know how you can believe that is somehow a good thing. What does a majority of dependence and a minority of producers lead to?

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 11:53 am

    Your majority is illustrated in the comment section of this article. The people commenting are beyond fed up with the leftists sycophant lapdog media. Of course that same media tells you what to believe.,0,4964619.story

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 11:42 am

    Dee As far as freedom is concerned. Let's pretend hmmmm I'm 21 and I made a big mistake. I want an abortion nope not by repubs laws. Uhhh Im gay and I want to get married. Nope not by Repubs law. I have a parent dying from Parkinsons and want stem cell research. Nope not by Repubs law. For my childrens sake I want these saturday night specials, oozies and every other assault rifle off the street. Nope not by Repub laws.etc. etc. etc. So don't talk to me about freedom. The repubs loooove to talk about freedom until it is something they are against and than wow watch out. They will try to take all your rights that don't fit in to the world as THEY see it!

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 12:16 pm

    Do you have any thing that isn't a strawman argument? Abortion on demand paid for by the taxpayers is the law of the land. Gay marriage has been defeated by the electorate even in California when ever it has been put on the ballot. Stem cell research is taking place everyday. Restricting the 2nd Amendment rights of law abiding citizens won't stop the criminals. Violent crime goes up with gun restrictions. This is what is so frustrating when dealing with the irrational left, nothing you claim has any merit. Just blind emotional drivel driven by the desire to tell everyone else how to live. We have all seen the destruction caused by leftism and we don't want it. I think Detroit offers the utopia you seek. Leftism is anti-freedom, no evidence exists to claim anything else.

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  • cookie65December 28, 2013 - 12:26 pm

    I made a comment on this very thread to another mental midget which you give life to with this comment. -- cookie65 December 28, 2013 - 9:43 am -- "Congratulations!!!, this comment is as intellectually dishonest as you claiming not to be a leftist. Fear is central to all leftism. It is used endlessly to manipulate and influence people. Leftism is fully dependent on fear. Fear is how leftism establishes control over people and causes them to sacrifice freedom and liberty. Without the invention and creation of some nemesis based on fear leftism has no purpose. Fear controls you and renders you nothing more than a useful idiot."

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  • Concerned CitizenDecember 28, 2013 - 12:37 pm

    I was unaware that abortion and gay marriage were constitutional rights. I do know that my right to bear arms is, in fact, in the constitution. I love how lefties and even progressives republicans (oxymoron there) call tea party folks numerous names when their goal is simply Constitutionally limited government, free market economics and fiscal responsibility. I guess in the world of leftism, those values are a huge threat to their desire of Socislism (which is simply a bridge to communism) where they believe the faux utopia of economic and social justice. Funny that it also involves disarming their fellow Americans. Liberal policies are always an epic failure. They seek to control while accusing the opposition of control. Their policies always decrease individual freedom and liberties for the good of the collective. This president is a narcissistic control freak hell bent on fundamentally transforming the greatest country on earth - the only promise he has kept. All his buddies have been communists and Marxists. He behaves as king and shreds our constitution daily. This fraud could be any race or gender, what does it matter? Does it matter what race or gender Satan is? This man and his minions, many who are women and white, are the enemy within. The ideology is antithetical to the founding of our great country and is destroying everything that is good. But, that is what Progressives do. The Right creates and the left destroys, using "compassion" and "fairness" as their failed yardstick. What is happening to our country is perverted and disgusting. The left is in a deluded bubble of denial and are complicit in the destruction of America.

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  • Dee#1December 28, 2013 - 12:09 pm

    Patty, resorting to extreme positions and attitudes on legitimate policy differences is an attempt to nullify productive discussion on coming to some accord in solving those issues. Also, please read my comment again, you somehow mistake me for a Republican. I am a Tea Party member, who may or may not vote for a Republican. I am only concerned about someone who represents me and upholds the Constitution with limited government, maximum individual freedom, minimum regulation and lower taxes.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 1:12 pm

    Cookie I am well aware of the law of the land. But the Repubs have been trying to overturn Roe v Wade for years and now they are desperately trying to overturn the ACA. Please don't tell me restricting gun rights makes violence go up. Why because the NRA says so. Also can You debate without all the same "sayings" you are constantly posting?

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  • PatriceDecember 28, 2013 - 1:50 pm

    Patty, do you understand how high you make cookienoname and Dee? As you have noticed not too many of us are willing. And you are also helping cookienoname make a desperate living.

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  • PattyDecember 28, 2013 - 2:05 pm

    Patrice Understood! Just happen to have two weeks off and sometimes I can't control myself. I think I'm done for today though. Thanks for bringing me back down to earth.

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  • PatriceDecember 28, 2013 - 2:28 pm

    When I have the time and/or desire I succumb as well :)

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  • cookie65December 29, 2013 - 7:13 am

    Even Camille Paglia recognizes the destruction caused by leftism. Here's mud in your eye.

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  • KenDecember 29, 2013 - 8:48 am

    Red Hearing Alert!!!! This program is for HUD participants. HUD realizes that it's program has many flaws. It was designed to give the less affluent in our society a chance for home ownership. Why did developers in Westchester County use HUD financing to build their condos in the first place? Cheap money with almost no oversight and zero benefit for the class of peoples the program was designed for. Another example is how many people do we know who have purchased HUD houses in Sacramento for rental income or to flip for a profit? Be honest mow. When HUD came into existence in 1968 the goal of the program was to give Lower income peoples a chance at the American Dream. Not create a new group of slum lords. So if the program proposal passes, a warning to all the slum lords in Pollack Pines or Georgetown is HUD loans will have new strings attached. FYI I'm pretty sure there aren't any. Happy New Years everyone

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 9:13 am

    HUD is a Sewer - HERE: My favorite description of HUD was to come many years later from staff to the Chairman of the Senate HUD appropriation subcommittee — Senator Kit Bond. When asked what was going on at HUD, the Congressional staffer said, “HUD is being run as a criminal enterprise.”

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 9:40 am

    “As long as I can get government subsidies, what do I care if people have education or jobs?” ~ D. Ravitch, (former) Chairman, AFL-CIO Housing Trust (He built his initial fortune with a family construction business and affordable housing.) - HERE

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 9:47 am

    Note to Mt. Dem.: Your "bad language" filter is sometimes absurd. Take, for instance, it's point-blank intolerance of the masculine first name "D*ck". After trying unsuccessfully several times to post the above, I finally recognized that the stumbling block was Mr. Ravitch's first name, which I had persisted in correctly spelling. I'll bet there are lots and lots of "bad words" I could get past the filter; however, this being a family publication . . . . . .

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  • cookie65December 29, 2013 - 10:23 am

    Ravitch is an example of how deeply entrenched the corruption is in DC. He built the first housing projects in DC. He is a former NHC housing person of the year. Giving this guy an award is like giving the beast an award. He is a big money political influence peddler who has built an ill-gotten fortune threw corruption. He exemplifies the corruption in every last one of the pseudo non profit quasi government entities that so many peopIe beIieve serve the pubIic interests. He represents everything that is wrong with BIG government and everything that makes peopIe who think the government is looking out for them so blindly ignorant. What people like him have gotten away with isn't possible in a government kept under strict Constitutional limitations.

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  • KenDecember 29, 2013 - 10:08 am

    As it relates to the posters who tend to lean to the Right, I'm not sure where the anger is coming from in regards to HUD. Is it Big Brother oversight? The answer to that would be, don't use HUD financing. Is it the result of yet again another example of a failed big government program? It appears that HUD itself is trying to self correct that problem. Do you really think that Westchester County Developers really needed HUD loans to develop their lands? Then ask yourself why that would be. Finally Evelyn states that someone built a fortune building affordable housing. Unless they were paid or stole funds and never provided a service I can't see how you can fault someone for that. Is profit a bad thing? Historically Evelyn's post have leaned to the Left so I assume her problem is with development more than HUD itself. For all of us on the Right I warn you to be careful to state exactly what you are opposing here. The Federal Government has already proven that they can build what ever they want in our County no matter how much we oppose it. (Red Hawk). If you are anti development of any kind just say so. But if someone was to use HUD financing to build 1000 unit development in Summerset for low income minorities and your only answer is you don't want them in your back yard? You will lose big time. You might even wind up being Jailed or sued by our government. Don't say I didn't warn you

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 10:47 am

    For anyone believing my objection relates either to affordable housing or to development per se, recommended reading: "The Myth of the Rule of Law: or How the Money Works", by Catherine Austin Fitts (Ass't Sec. for Housing-Federal Housing Commissioner, 1989-1990) - HERE

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 11:58 am

    re Ken's suggestion vis a vis Big Brother oversight / refusal to take HUD financing, I'm wondering if anyone here appreciates how deeply embedded HUD is already in our county.

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 12:11 pm

    Ken: Labels are variously interpreted. I'm wondering which of my positions relative to this subject you have in mind when writing "Historically Evelyn's post[s] have leaned to the Left."

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  • cookie65December 29, 2013 - 12:00 pm

    Pictures of the shooting suspects in pville.

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  • KenDecember 29, 2013 - 4:56 pm

    Ms Hodson wrote the story and I'm not sure why. Is it a warning that the Federal government has plans to import various races,sexual orientations, economic status to our County with out our approval? Do you believe that the same people that built the ACA web site can effectively build a sustainable community? Or was this designed by the left to insight anger in the rural communities and rally support from their base? I think Ms Hodson took the bait. And I also believe that Truthwillsetyoufree is somebody posting for the Obama regime. The facts are HUD has been in effect for over 50 years, Can Someone point one Urban Development Project in our County ever?

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 5:41 pm

    Ken - (1) What possible connection could there be between ACA website development and HUD? (2) According to, presently there are 133 HUD homes in the 95667 zipcode. (3) BOS Resolution 018-2013 (2/26/2013) approved a required amendment for Sec. 8 Housing, for submittal to HUD. (4) All BOS Agendas include the following statement: "The Board meets simultaneously as the Board of Supervisors and the Board of Directors of the Air Quality Management District, In-Home Supportive Services, Public Housing Authority [= HUD], Redevelopment Agency and other Special Districts." ********** HUD's interests are thoroughly embedded in our community.

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 5:45 pm

    Dawn Hodson: Thank you for your article.

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  • KenDecember 29, 2013 - 6:52 pm

    Here I go, 95667 (Placerville) Area code there are 14,000 homes total. Per Evelyn's statement 133 existing homes have been approved for section 8 housing. All were approved so that home owners to rent their properties out and receive Sec 8 pay. There are no HUD development communities in our County. Considering the fact that in 2112 there were only 4 building permits issued in that entire area code I feel it safe to say that there were no HUD communities built in Evelyn's area code 95667 ever. Maybe there's a very small chance that someone who owns a Sec 8 approved rental home could be sued by someone based on the criteria in the section for failure to comply with all it's convoluted rules. Also It was Ms Dodson in her first sentence who related the ACA and HUD Evelyn, did you read the story? What is Evelyn or Ms Hodson afraid of exactly? I will direct you to READ my first posting on this string and head my warnings.

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 7:01 pm

    Ken: I have not said that there are any HUD "communities". I do maintain, however, that HUD's presence is well established in our area. That is simply information. As for my ACA/HUD statement, it responds to your "Do you believe that the same people that built the ACA web site can effectively build a sustainable community?" ACA and Community Development differ. Totally!!!

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 7:09 pm

    THIS is the list of 133 HUD homes in the 95667 zip code. Were there a way to produce a similar list for El Dorado County as a whole, I would have done so.

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 8:25 pm

    "HUD’s Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing" - HERE ********** Dawn Hodson's article quite fairly represents HUD's document.

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  • EvelynDecember 29, 2013 - 8:34 pm

    Christian Science Monitor - "'Fair' housing or 'social engineering'? HUD proposal stirs controversy." - HERE: America's central housing authority has long sought, at Congress's behest, to "affirmatively further fair housing." But a new rule proposed by HUD is a bridge too far in that direction, say small-government proponents and other critics, who see it as an effort by the Obama administration to force communities to diversify in ways that may hurt local property values, their tax bases, and their overall economies.

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