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From page A5 | July 19, 2013 | 74 Comments

At 8:30 a.m. on July 8, Placerville Downtown Association Marketing Director Lisa Crummet found a paint can on her doorstep from the Benjamin Moore Paint Company. The paint can was in acknowledgement that Placerville had been selected as one of 20 North American cities to receive a paint job on Main Street and it contained information for the winners and a small video camera. The first direction was to make a video of the town’s reaction and submit it to Benjamin Moore by Friday, July 12.

The Placerville Downtown Association is taking the lead with the Benjamin Moore “Paint What Matters” campaign. Members of the PDA, Placerville Mayor Wendy Thomas and Grace Webb, owner of The Paint Spot, the local Benjamin Moore distributor, met and Placerville’s film career began.

The first video opens with Robinson Pharmacy owner Dennis Thomas and features Main Street business owners with signs identifying their business by name and the date of its founding. The video continues on to the July 9 Placerville City Council meeting where Mayor Wendy Thomas gave a thank you speech acknowledging both Benjamin Moore’s “Main Street Matters” campaign and the efforts of Placerville residents and visitors to make the city a part of the revitalization. The city council, city staff and the audience did a “wave” of appreciation.

In the instructions, Placerville is advised to sit tight until contacted by Benjamin Moore. It will take about three weeks to paint each Main Street and the project will be completed over the next year. Not every block of Main Street will be painted. PDA and the Benjamin Moore production team will work together to decide which three blocks will be painted. Local contractors will be used and those interested in the contract should contact the Benjamin Moore sales representative.

Benjamin Moore will paint the first story of the buildings selected and leave the remaining paint as well as the contact information of the contractor who did the work for the owners. They will offer a discount on services and products to those building owners whose buildings were not selected for revitalization.

“We are still waiting to hear what the next steps will be from Benjamin Moore and The Paint Spot, who we assume will get information first,” said Crummet. “We are in a holding pattern.”

“I haven’t heard anything more from the company yet,” said Webb, “but since California has a lead law, I would think any local paining contractor would have to be lead-certified to do the painting. But, this is all so new that even the Benjamin Moore sales representative doesn’t have any information yet.”

To view the video and the progress over the next year, visit the PDA Website at placerville-downtown.org.

Contact Wendy Schultz at 530 344-5069 or wschultz@mtdemocrat.net. Follow @wschultzMtDemo on Twitter.

Placerville Main Street Matters Video 1 from MSM Placerville on Vimeo.

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  • FranJuly 19, 2013 - 8:03 am

    This might be a good time to have people politely say "no" to the round about...since the people helped vote for the "win"--maybe this council will listen now--just a thought...many films will be taken now--this is backed by some very important people. It is a national spotlight...just saying. Placerville played on the "gold rush" history--not the European possibility.

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  • Web CompetitionJuly 19, 2013 - 11:21 am

    How funny, they don't get the joke! Placerville has to "white wash" their city so it doesn't appear corrupt! Every one else can see, they provide the paint, and citizens aid on the painting by covering up and hiding whats underneath. How classic! What a living metaphor! www.occupyplacerville.com

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  • EPA seeking criminal paintersJuly 19, 2013 - 11:33 am

    Please, when they start painting, please report these criminals, that is those who do not use RRP methods to abate lead dangers, to http://www.epa.gov/region9/toxic/lead/tips-complaints.html The EPA has a wanted poster page, please identify people in Placerville or anywhere in USA for painting on homes built prior to 1978 without lead paint certification. Thank you Mountain Democrat for identifying suspects by placing their pictures on the article! The EPA agents are allowed to fine violators up to 37,000 dollars per day! There is no judicial hearing, you guilt is subject to our expertise, and if you are not certified or you hired uncertified painters or who did not follow RRP guidelines you are guilty! Those who are guilty please turn yourself in to EPA.gov we could use the revenue! Thank you for your cooperation.

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  • Thanks KarmaJuly 19, 2013 - 11:41 am

    I got ripped off by one them stores! Hey are you saying I just go to that web site and if they didn't record their RRP duties they are guilty? Cool! Finally, what goes around comes around. Who voted for this law anyway, sounds a bit much, but if it allows justice hey I"m for it! Thanks

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 12:11 pm

    EPA seeking criminal painters is engaging in LAWFARE. Lawfare is another Occupy Wall Street tactic designed to obstruct and throw distrust, confusion and chaos into the public domain. EPA seeking criminal painters is probably an "action" of OccupyPlacerville.com.

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  • FranJuly 19, 2013 - 12:20 pm

    Lawfare "...tactic designed to obstruct and throw distrust, confusion and chaos into the public domain..." hasnt the local government been doing that--just by some of their choices? Just saying...have a great day Phil...keep fighting the battle.

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  • Report an Environmental ViolationJuly 19, 2013 - 5:51 pm

    Use this page to report what appears to you as a possible violation of environmental laws and regulations. Information you submit will be forwarded to EPA environmental enforcement personnel or to the appropriate regulatory authority This is not Occupy Propaganda! These are laws inacted by citiznes who voted for Officials who promised to protect them from criminals who ignore EPA safety guidelines! I repeat this is the official web site of the EPA not a Occupy Wall Street scare tactic! Citizens who do not violate EPA laws have no fear! Only the criminals will be punished! Painting under RRP requires EPA safety precautions on any for profit remodel or painting or pressure washing that disturbs lead paint on 20 s.f. exterior, and 6 s.f interior surfaces. It is criminal to do this work where profit is involved. http://www2.epa.gov/enforcement/forms/report-environmental-violation

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  • Report an Environmental ViolationJuly 19, 2013 - 6:08 pm

    In fact, if a contractor performed work on your pre 1978 home since the 2010 law, and they did not document RRP procedures, or he was not certified by the EPA you can report them to the EPA and there is no escape! I know some comtractors have burnt a few clients, so this will equalize the justice for those who got burnt! That also goes for property owners who may have not been forthright and did remodels to mask lead paint and there was no disclosure. The EPA can inestigate, and if they did the crime, at least you can have a case to show another agency found that the company was dishonest to help your case if you find this out. Anyway, I'm just putting out there some information that would help the public safety regarding unscrupulous individuals who try to hide their shoddy and unsafe work practices. If you don't like this, I didn't make the rules. I wonder if the paint company disclosed to the people about the dangers of painting on older homes, and the potential criminal liability. Sounds like willful disregard of USA's EPA laws

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 6:19 pm

    Report an Environmental Violation is engaging in LAWFARE. Lawfare is another Occupy Wall Street tactic designed to obstruct and throw distrust, confusion and chaos into the public domain. Report an Environmental Violation is probably an "action" of OccupyPlacerville.com.

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  • Report an Environmental ViolationJuly 19, 2013 - 6:20 pm

    You do not want to get on this EPA wanted page here http://www2.epa.gov/enforcement/epa-fugitives This is a very serious offense! Please do not paint or remodel unless you are certified or you are a homeowner working on your non commercial residence your self. Homeowners are exempt if they do the work themselves on private residences that they live in.

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  • Are you a fresh air Pirate?July 19, 2013 - 6:34 pm

    California Air Resource Board is also needing cases to support their air clean up acts. Criminals are now generated by owners of equipment over 25 horse power. CARB employees are decent people and deserve your support by reporting owners of equipment that is not in compliance. If it doesn't have a big red ID number on the equipment, it may be in violation. For more info see http://www.arb.ca.gov/enf/advs/advs441.pdf This is not an occupy propaganda, this is the law! Ignorance of the law is no excuse!

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  • RichardJuly 19, 2013 - 10:46 pm

    Aside from the fact that the EPA & CA State laws have yes become that onerous, rediculous and financially crushing, some of the comments here are basically true. You are at serious financial risk with all commercial buildings, including rentals, and any structure pre-1978. Though I believe that many of the above comments are tongue in cheek, I fear that too much lead poisioning may be already in play with some commentators.

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  • corruption poisening v lead poiseningJuly 20, 2013 - 10:51 am

    Moving to Placerville was the fulfillment of a long time dream. Many years in business ending in a disability sidelining me for several years, mid life, [insert violin music here]. I almost thought life's quest for the American dream was over. After I learned to cope with my ailment, which resulted in surgical removal of organs, I went back to college to get some degrees. I developed my talents, and low an behold some Placerville investors believed in me and funded my own enterprise! Wow, I was so in love with USA! I couldn't believe that after not being able to be employed, due to no ability to maintain a structured 40 hour work week, when I was to ill to work with relapses. Yet some good people in Placerville business community saw that I could profit for them! Thank you Jamie and Steve! I had to be self employed as I would not fire myself during attacks. Still, things would move normally with help from workers, and things got done, business was generated, and investors reaped their profits! Yet, I met some very evil dark hearted public officials who break every law in existence to hid their incompetence and negligence, and out right criminal behavior! They, without conscience destroy the dreams of decent people to preserve pensions, there behavior would otherwise abrogate! I always wondered why they called Placerville "Hangtown." It was sort of a goolish pride, thing I thought, of old day warning for outsiders to behave. Noticing now, 4th and 5th generation Placervillains, now running this town are genetically inbred carrying on this tradition of fear mongering, not of hanging criminals, just outsiders who are either criminals, or who file criminal complaints against family members or those favored citizens associates, like some of the above pictured, if their friends or family commit a crime. In other words, an outsider is not appreciated for objecting to abuse of power in Placerville, and the symbolic form of hanging exists in arbitrary acts to deprive rights illegally. I've actually heard this, "Oh don't worry, I know the Judge or D.A." I would raise my eyebrow and wonder, with a slight chuckle, if it was possible that a Judge or D.A. would fix a felony or two or seven or eight for a more favored citizens over a crime victims. Yet we see this occupyplacerville.com site, and we have verifiable proof that those pictured above are favored citizens, who the D.A. will protect their kids when they make indiscretions. Like, let's say vandalize property, stand in the road with a loaded pistol cause a car accident and threaten to murder 7 kids, and the car accident victims, and that is justifiable??? Even though 20 affidavits exist that this friend of El Dorado County was terrorizing a neighborhood??? As obscene as these fixing felonies of mentally ill people, a class of people no more violent, probably less, than most so called sane offenders. You would think with Tucson, Colorado, Fort Hood, Virginia Tech, Columbine, type mass murders, you wouldn't think that actual mentally ill diagnosed criminals would not be armed inside a court room. That is while 5 restraining orders for trials not yet performed for stalking, assaulting, vandalizing, trespassing, see EDC Superior Court Docket #'s P05CRF0446-1, PCSCRF0511 -1, P06CRM0281 -1, P06CRM2100-1. These cases were neatly fixed and tucked under the rug violating Crime Victims bill of rights, as it was strengthened with proposition 9! Crime victims rights! It is a load of rubbish! I now have a hard time loving USA! This position makes life intolerable, being rejected by your country your honorably served, due to corrupt officials. Thankfully, the VA takes care of my health, while Placerville destroys it! I'm sorry, Placerville has violated civil rights and there is no redress! In fact, a complaint was ignored by all Board of Supervisors. In Fact, the Sacramento and El Dorado County Republican Parties, made contact with me and told me that officials were creating false arrest reports against those leaking stories about ongoing felony fixes, or shedding light on corruption in El Dorado County that is wide spread. This was not my complaint or "delusion" as some have callously suggested. In fact, the Honorable Late Senator Dave Cox, before his death came clean and sent the actual recorded El Dorado County minutes, that legally is called exhibit A1, seen Ninth Circuit court of appeals case 11-17344, where it no is public record! It names all the local and state officials who "agreed" to conspire if questioned that "whistle blowers" would be given false arrest reports to discredit their complaints. This was done by higher ranking elected officials in the party without the committees knowledge, in order that Helen Baumann, the author, would be able to salvage her Political Career that now hung in jeopardy by her violation of 18 USC 242 abuse of power under the color of law. Senator Dave Cox, and Bob Berger of the Sacramento Republican Party also discovered this, and they were two separate independent investigators. It is not known if Bob Berger is still alive, but he sent an email, "this will ruin my political career." He was in fear and never contacted me again after providing the same documentation that Senator Dave Cox provided affixing his officials state seal to verify the authenticity of the correspondence. Exhibit A1, from Senator Cox shows then Assemblyman Ted Gaines as the highest ranking co-defendant racketeer. Justice in USA does not reach corrupt politicians equally! However, the Attorney General required that we go through local legal channels, every possible one in El Dorado County before they would investigate. Even though we had a Senator witness. Proving our claims is that fact that every official responsible in El Dorado County is named in exhibit A1. They were either terrified, or eager to comply with the modern day inquisition of crime victims to cover up the corruption for each other. It was remarkable. None yet has denied they did not intend to participate in abuse of power corruption. Any venue for redress, excluding Judge Proud, who actually signed restraining orders to protect us, even though Vern Pierson released a bailed accused violent felon to terrorize us. Pierson barred evidence to allow the restraining orders to do any protection. It was unbelievable! The newspaper revealed that a 1/4 million dollar bail was released to allow Vern Pierson's enforcer to commit a dozen more crimes that the D.A. would ignore. We then found out that while Pierson was D.A. in Amador, a John O'Sullivan was being harassed, stalked and assaulted bye a retired Sheriff, and Pierson was allowing this to happen because O'Sullivan, not wanting to hide anything took Pierson to Federal Court, and the retired sheriff shot O'Sullivan in the back 3 or 4 times, murdering him. His name is ironically Zimmerman, and is serving life in prison. Could it be possible that an elected D.A. was using ongoing violence to murder whistleblowers? It seems impossible yet Macias v. Sonoma County Sheriff Mike Ihde (9th. Cir) had discovered that officials can be "arbitrary" to make crime victims who complain about abuse of crime victim bill of rights seem frivolous by ignoring their complaints and to punish complainants that simply let the stalkers do their dirty work. As we see, this commonly ends in violence and murder. The Macias court, in an attempt to end this practice in California identified it and allowed officials who engage in this to be stripped of Immunity, branded, and punished by losing their personal assets to deter others. see Macias: In Macias v. Ihde "...the court ignored the evidence that [the Appellees'] ARBITRARY failure to enforce the law caused [Mrs. Macias] to suffer not only her murder on April 15,.” 1996, but the three months of harassment, stalking, and death threats that proceeded it." end quote. Yet Vern Pierson, diabolically brilliant, [images of him petting his poodle making repeated mwa ha ha laughter] It seems far fetched to think this could happen. As mentioned above, we contacted many local officials, my wife and I, because we had to move from our dream home, our life savings! Me being disabled not able to be employed, this was devastating. I will never be able to recover, and I am sure they enjoy this and gloat! What we learned is that the courts have determined markers or signs, if you will, that reveal which government officials are corrupt. It has to do with the 14th amendment equal treatment of public services." If they favor certain criminals, for instance, over crime victims, and there is substantial evidence to support the criminal charges, then what is occurring is this Supreme Court element that is illegal for them to do. Cleburne v. Cleburne Living Ctr., Inc., 473 U.S. 432, 439 (1985): "[a]n equal protection violation occurs when the government treats someone differently [from] another who is similarly situated") (Cleburne) (The alleged constitutional deprivation in this matter was the alleged denial of equal police protection to Mrs. Macias.") end quote. And so goes public opinion, such as "Phil Veerkamp" and borderline "Richard." Some citizens will support corruption, possibly because they know the officials and have benefited by it. I've met very few in Placerville who are sympathetic to this type of abuse, and they even stigmatize and make funny jokes about it. So what you see, is a "clear departure that can readily be assessed" if you are intellectually honest. Moreover, the intellectual honesty has been made into controlling Supreme Court law that must be obeyed, but you see no obedience at all in Placerville, anywhere. Placerville has severed itself from USA and has formed its own Ku Klux Klan type hatred, not against blacks who objected to abuse of power, the element of civil right violations, but to anybody who objects to their unlawful dominance. Discrimination exists but is now absent racism. To some this may be a complicated syllogism, but it follows rules of classification in logical academic terms. Without racism the KKK type of people no longer have to wear hoods, they can hate everybody who points out that domination of other humans will, without justification should not be a power that the State wields. Thus, the need not for a Constitution, but for COMPLIANCE TO A CONSTITUTION! In Placerville, this domination by officials is common and a public exposure they are not even aware of, yet it is a perversion of human nature, escaped from some morbid... well lets not go there. So, the Supreme Court has discovered another maxim to verify the act of corruption. In Enquist v. Oregan U.S. 2008, the court made identifying culprit corrupt officials by their overt behavior, yet to the untrained eye, it may seem subtle or insignificant. Enquist stated: " What seems to have been significant in... the cited cases was the existence of a clear standard against which departures, even for a single plaintiff, could be readily assessed. This differential treatment raised a concern of arbitrary classification, and therefore required that the State provide a rational basis for it." end quote. Which takes us to these cases, EDC Superior Court Docket #'s P05CRF0446-1, PCSCRF0511 -1, P06CRM0281 -1, P06CRM2100-1. Even though sworn affidavits existed, video taped murder threats and restraining order violations etc...Vern Pierson did not provide a "Rational Basis." Now that is just the Federal Law violation. Though Vern Pierson can claim immunity, but only if the cases were brought to trial as a "prosecutor," and only if the defendant sues. Parties not part of cases in non corrupt jurisdictions are protected under the California Constitution that had just been strengthened, yet Vern Pierson yourinated [sic] on the crime victims like a drunk teenager, [symbolic metaphor] with wanton disregard ignoring the California State Law, to protect his crony friends now stacking up as murderers and people who have 1/4 million dollar bails, who are terrorizing complainants against him. In closing, as you know, we did the A.G.'s request that must be fulfilled before they investigate. However, we took the identical complaint to the California Judicial Counsel. They held an investigation, but they were not in the Jurisdiction of El Dorado County, and Sacramento also covers up for Vern Pierson's crime racketeering ring. They found that Judge James Wagoner was a serial criminal obstructing justice for years, and stated that he obstructed justice and grand jury investigations in public record on the CJP dot CA dot Gov web site. Which The Supreme Court again, found another way to identify corrupt officials, let me digress, however. Remember Exhibit A1? Well there was A2 and A3, all from Senator Dave Cox. The Supreme Court said that most civil right abuse cases were decided on "inferences" from overt behavior of the officials. They marveled that actual writings of the unlawful conspiring among officials was "rarely exhibited." Isn't that fascinating. Inferences can determine their guilt! Yet we had "rarely exhibited" A1, A2, A3. Amazing, if I may quote Heul Houser! "See, e.g., ES Dev., Inc. v. RWM Enters., 939 F.2d 547, 553-54 (8th Cir. 1991) ("it is axiomatic that the typical conspiracy is 'rarely evidenced by explicit~ agreements: but must almost always be proved by 'inferences that may be drawn from the behavior of the alleged conspirators"') (quoting H.L. Moore Drug Exch. v. Eli Lilly & Co., 662 F.2d 935, 941 (2d Cir. 1981)" So now that we had them busted of a felony that sent elected Sheriff Mike Carona to the penitentiary for 5.5 years we went to the Attorney General of California. Though we had a dozen letters from the A. G. stating if we did the leg work they would help. Nevertheless, contradicting their many promises, they now, following the logic of the Supreme Court to identify corrupt officials, "Made a Clear Departure that was "readily assessed," and they said, so what if these people are abused by officials, stalked or even murdered, we don't really give a rip, They said, "we are immune, we don't have to help crime victims." Another "clear departure, readily assessed." Today there are many news reports where the Attorney General of California is "working closely" with D.A. Vern Pierson. That should terrify citizens who did not think that corruption is status quo in California, yet alone U.S.A.'s faltering reputation, due to this behavior and citizen inaction. Yet, yet back from my digression, we see another maxim intended on sealing the coffin of the corrupt! Yet so it is no stretch to use the term, "wide spread corruption; nevertheless, it is not sealing the coffin for corrupt officials who, in a non corrupt paradigm would see themselves in prison. Rather for innocent unknowing Americans who attempt to use government services, that offend family members, when they are caught but not punished, for trying to cover up their family or friends deviant behavior, by violating 18 USC 241, 242, 1346, among other "abuse of power under the colour of law statutes.. The Supreme Court points to another proof of corruption, and all of these I have provided are indisputably supported by res ipsa loquitur fact! Therefore, in City of Canton, Ohio v. Harris - 489 U.S. 378 (1989) and in Monell v. Dept of Soc. Servs., 436 U.S. 658, 701 (1978), It is U.S. Law that the above named officials, and their ACCOMPLICES, who turn a blind eye and "Fail to Discipline" public employees, they abrogate immunity and can be sued into bankruptcy. This is intended to be a deterrent to keep scum like these out of office. Recently, Norse v. Santa Cruz (9th Cir. 2010) held that officials, even acting in "legislative roles," abrogate immunity if the treatment is "ad hoc," or a case by case deprivation that does not violate rights "equally." When that type violation occurs it was a mistake, and immunity applies. Nevertheless, immunity was not intended for personal vendetta use by rogue officials like that in El Dorado County. Most of you are hearing what the elements of civil right violations are for the first time! Immunity only attaches when the violation was of a policy nature, and not individual denials where similarly situated individuals are favored and allowed to have a right they deny a disfavored person. See Gillette v. Delmore 979 F.2d 1342 (9th Cir. 1992): "In Pembaur, the Supreme Court held that a single decision by a municipal policymaker may be sufficient to trigger section 1983 liability under Monell,... See 475 U.S. at 480-81, 106 S.Ct. at 1298-99. There must, however, be evidence of a conscious, affirmative choice. Municipal liability under section 1983 attaches only where "a deliberate choice to follow a course of action is made from among various alternatives by the official or officials responsible for establishing final policy with respect to the subject matter in question." Pembaur, 475 U.S. at 483-84, 106 S.Ct. at 1300 (plurality opinion); accord City of Oklahoma City v. Tuttle, 471 U.S. 808, 823, 105 S.Ct. 2427, 2436, 85 L.Ed.2d 791 (1985) (plurality opinion) ("[T]he word 'policy' generally implies a course of action consciously chosen from among various alternatives."). A section 1983 plaintiff may attempt to prove the existence of a custom or informal policy with evidence of repeated constitutional violations for which the errant municipal officials were not discharged or reprimanded. See McRorie v. Shimoda, 795 F.2d 780, 784 (9th Cir.1986). " End Quote. Vern Pierson is a "final policy maker, made conscious affirmative choices" to allow stalking, assaults, violence, and murder. Now, if our jurisdiction was not corrupt, citizens who individually find corrupt officials as "VICTIMS," have been given a right through democracy to punish them and deter others according to these articulated by the Supreme Court controlling points and authorities. Finally, the Supreme Court holds that civil right cases have an "objective legitimacy test, see Hartman v. Moore, 547 U.S. at 260 (citing Mt. Healthy, 429 U.S. at 287) An objective legitimacy test, argued for by Defendants, (Defs.' Mem. P. &. A.: 6): Once a plaintiff makes "a prima facie showing of retaliatory harm, the burden shifts to the defendant official to demonstrate that even without the impetus to retaliate [*18] he would have taken the action complained of . . . ." This "burden" was never been explained in a 3 year long federal case! Instead, a magistrate judge, the reason for El Dorado County settling the case out of court, openly fabricated the case! This additional claim is easy to prove, because you have to allege, "a substantial motivating factor." This was alleged, yet it was never responded to. Procedure states in Rule 8, that due to his "failing to properly address or respond to claims, or objections, the defense admit their truth and the evidence are admitted as indisputable facts! Additionally, they ignored exhibits A1 thru A3, in a modern day rendition of the Declaration of Independents allegation that "Mock" judicial proceedings were one of their major causes for war. In 119 documents, not one objection is noted for exhibst A's, not once is there response of objection of the case we alleged, this and admission of the truth through abuse of due process. Only a pattern of conduct is present, like the "fabricated arrest reports" revealed in exhibit A's, similarly, they replaced our petition for redress of grievance with a fabricated one a Magistrate Judge, right out in the open realleged to aid Vern Pierson. This fraud is indisputable and done in plain site. I am beside myself with disbelief, yet there is not venue but here to address it! Liberty and Justice for all in USA, even for crime victims, is a hoax! Shockingly, ut was the same Judge who John O'Sullivan had who sought the federal courts protection! Yet Magistrate Edmund F. Brennan, from his judicial bench sentenced John O'Sullivan to death, and denied our request to be protected from Vern Pierson's enforcers recorded death threats, a sentence by "hangtown" mobsters allowed to rule by businesses in the county who wait their turn for perks like free business improvement. Brennan, an unbelievable disgrace to USA let alone the judicial system stands with corrupt James Wagoner to cover up his fellow disgusting colleague by callously ignorin the Macias v. Ihde precedence from his own Ninth Circuit court! This is so bizarre and outrageous, I barely believe it myself, yet the evidence is all there! I think eventually, they will either be sent to prison themselves, or I may be dispatched like John O'Sullivan or some other form of retaliation. I will not remain silent that is for sure! Well there you have it! You be the judge! Yet know this, all of you in picture holding paint for the "white wash" of Placerville, will have to "make a deliberate [cowardly selfish] choice among various honorable ones, and turn a blind eye, or do the honorable thing for the good of a community and object! Know this! There are people who commute and will do their shopping in Sacramento so as not to be in complicity with business in USA, like in Placerville, who condone corruption in their community! Which of you will make a stand for "liberty, justice, and freedom for all?" Okay Phil, lets here your mimic of Stalinist type chilling of those who object to the abuse dolled out by your 5th generation inbred pals.

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  • EPA protectionsJuly 20, 2013 - 1:59 pm

    Actually, the country I was born in, though I am a U.S. Citizen, banned lead paint in 1962, so I have had less, exposure. Possibly a trait, that enables me to become more aware of my surroundings. But thanks for the kinder acknowledgements. Lead Paint enforcement is not really a "tongue in cheek" attempt at humiliating the EPA. The American Bar Association cites, Claims against paint manufacturers and associations can generally be divided into three categories. Equity claims (e.g., restitution and indemnity) are a recent attempt to hold manufacturers and associations liable for monies various cities have spent to abate lead paint, and in 2001 at least one court appeared receptive to this type of claim. By contrast, traditional tort claims against manufacturers (e.g., negligence or strict liability) typically fail because the plaintiff cannot identify the product's manufacturer and courts find novel theories of liability (e.g., market share liability, alternative liability, or enterprise liability) inapplicable--- Annual Review of Developments in Business and Corporate Litigation, 2002. As like the occupy Placerville claims, the blame is shifted on "courts [that] find novel theories of liability ... inapplicable." I nice way of saying that U.S courts are corrupt, especially when the burden of liability is shifted from corporations or public officials back to victims who where duped by a a belief in a useless constitution. Nevertheless, if you associate objecting to abuse of power as "brain damage" through lead poisoning, or what ever, you must also have disdain for the most valuable amendment, the First Amendment right of redress of grievances.

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  • EPA protectionsJuly 20, 2013 - 2:10 pm

    I did fail to mention the burden shifting back to the victims and holding business owners and contractors responsible for Lead Paint created by the Manufacturers, is solely the mandate by our judicial system. Judges have granted immunity to Corporations for their debacled chemical experimentations on human beings. The EPA has been barred from blaming Manufacturers. So individuals in these business, must now do the clean up at their own expense! But look, Benjamin whats his name is giving back to the community! How quaint!

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  • Corruption Makes normal people illJuly 20, 2013 - 2:31 pm

    http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_23663552/calif-governments-seek-1b-lead-paint-cleanup Wow, the San Jose Mercury News reports that paint companies aren't coming into most counties and bribing citizens with new paint jobs, so counties really concerned about public health and safety are suing the paint companies for "billions." Placerville citizens apparently, like lambs led to the slaughter have lost all ability of discernment. Lead Paint was created by manufacturers, and as we see immediately following, news of county suits, i.e. commonly called a "But For causal link," Paint company's are catering to business owners to paint their buildings for free, immediately following news that 10 other counties are suing Paint Companies. lWouldn't it be cool if your kids could be safe to finally get the guilty party to fix this damage! Here comes the Placerville greedy pig herd to the slop trough! Wouldn't it be better to join in on the suit and have all of Placerville and El Dorado Pre 1978 Homes abated from led toxicity? As always, the greedy pigs want it all for themselves, hey if the hoof fits, wear it!

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  • Here's back at you . . .July 20, 2013 - 2:31 pm

    That ole word QUAINT revives fond memories. It was the love of my live, ole Donald Rumsfeld, who back in ..... hmmmmmmm, well, I forget exactly when .......... judged the Geneva Conventions on torture ............. QUAINT. Gosh, those were the good ole days.

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  • Ole Rummy they used to say!July 20, 2013 - 2:53 pm

    Isn't surprising! These types follow the conduct and characteristics most notable by ponerologist. ponerology dot com has ole rummy in their thesis. "Snakes in Suits"-Robert Hare PhD, explains the psychological process. No wonder Reagan tore down mental health in USA. Not saying its bad, but it sure limits the ability to identify these psychos that have learned to escape detection. They find the rigors of public life quite enabling, especially with immunity as a constitutional right! Must be thrilling for them! So, for most Placerville officials, abuse of power is a "Quaint" means of torture, especially when they can get away with it with public approval.

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  • If it was only as simple as led paint!July 20, 2013 - 2:34 pm

    Yeah....

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  • yeah ho humJuly 20, 2013 - 2:36 pm

    Gosh yeah gee wiz, what a hum dinger!

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  • Here's back at you . . .July 20, 2013 - 3:34 pm

    Was Donnie a consurvative or a liberele?

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 3:51 pm

    Actually Rummy gets a pass on that one. It was Alberto Gonzales, Bush's Attorney General who, in an infamous memo, stated that the Geneva Conventions were quaint and obsolete and therefore, anything goes -- the one I liked best was that it was OK to crush the testicles of a child in front of the father to encourage him to talk. Oh, so many war crimes unpunished. Did the Germans in WWII crush the testicles of children? Well, maybe and if so that's why they were so totally EVIL.

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  • Here's back at you . . .July 20, 2013 - 3:56 pm

    Well OK fine have it your way James. Then the ? becomz: Was Gonzoleze a consurvative or a liberele?

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 4:01 pm

    Well, don't even have to Google this. Alberto was a Conservative. And, were he held to the standards of October 15, 1947, he would be strung up with the others in the dock. Won't happen though, as we like to look the other way when testicles are crushed.

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  • Ole Rummy they used to say!July 20, 2013 - 4:12 pm

    Not me, I don't like to look the other way! I was taught to help the weak and stand up to bullies! Raised in the Cold War era, the USSR dissidents were marginalized as mentally ill....yet this happening in USA today, and USSR is becoming more democratic. I'd rather suffer a bit of persecution here, than Russia, but then Russia does not lie and brag to the world that they allow citizen Rights, clearly, USA brags about it, and Clearly, contradicting the First Amendment, "Congress made a law...abridging the right of a citizen to redress a grievance," with the 11th amendment!" What makes me more ashamed, is that only a handful of Humans in USA have connected the dots. That's so remarkable. OMG!

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  • Jethro McSwiftJuly 20, 2013 - 4:12 pm

    corruption poisening v lead poisoning - I am long El dorado county resident. So wuz Ma and so wuz Pa. I think I got some Veerkamp blood. I think I got led paint. Shud I move? Which is worst?

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  • corruption poisening v lead poisoningJuly 20, 2013 - 4:17 pm

    Funny, you're okay Jethro, get yourself one of them fancy eatin table "fer inertaynment" and a cement pond! You'll do fine! I et dinner with a Veerkamp once or twice, and I got nutn against a Veerkamp, other than maybe he should be embarrassed for putting up with these bozo's using official power to rob people blind! But if they are smiling all the way to the bank, I guess holding your nose is just human nature

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  • Here's back at you . . .July 20, 2013 - 4:19 pm

    McSwift, what led you into your painting carear?

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 20, 2013 - 4:29 pm

    sound familiar? ~~~ LINK - quote from OCCUPYPLACERVILL.COM - The Eleventh Amendment to the constitution was originally created in 1795 by the first corrupt officials in congress, who were first generation descendents of the Revolutionary War.

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  • Constitutional Scholar?July 20, 2013 - 5:14 pm

    Oh Phil Has a Heart on for sure and vehement hatred for critics who seem to be US disgruntled political dissidents. This is a common trait of sociopaths, who defend all arbitrary state action, even if it abuses human rights LINK - Doesn't Phil Veerkamps attack on OccupyPlacerville seem to mimic USSR's man of steel, Joseph Stalin? Why would anybody attack victims of abuse of power, where there is no dispute that the abuse has occured? Well, Stalin you better anser that question, or just ask Phil

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 5:17 pm

    *** delete 1947, add 1946.

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 5:19 pm

    Jethro, strange but my doctor has requested me to take a blood test to check my lead levels? Is this the flavor of the month of blood tests?

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  • bad leadJuly 20, 2013 - 9:38 pm

    Seems like studies show people who died before 1978 lived on average 74 years. So all of them lived in lead toxicity so lead can kill you in about 74 years, without other factors smoking which was very popular then, even second hand smoke. Since 1978 they didn't destry the homes, most still exist, and have lead, now the life span is 79 years old, smoking is no longer popular, so now assuming smoking being less frequent, but not considered, you get 5 extra years, but then lead is still present, so, uh... well.. Okay the moral of the story is that EPA has halted commerce in the remodel industry, caused businesses to freek out over 37,000.00 dollar a day find potential, or in other words, chill business, because lead can kill you in either 74 or 79 years? I'll take the lead and save the 37,000.00 fine!

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  • JethroMcSwiftJuly 20, 2013 - 5:26 pm

    James E. - When the doc chekz for led have him to run A Veerkamp panel. We might be cuzins.

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 5:26 pm

    Even though Phil may not like Occupiers, that doesn't make him a sociopath. I don't like Senator McConnell and that doesn't make me a sociopath.

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 5:29 pm

    Jethro, no need to have a Veerkamp panel because we are all 50th cousins. I'm related to Phil, you are related to Phil, and we are both related to Cookie. It's a small world.

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  • JethroMcSwiftJuly 20, 2013 - 5:37 pm

    James E. My outhouse Is OCCUPIED. Todd “Ty” Robben sez it's not him. But iT smells like him. Do you think Todd “Ty” Robben is OCCUPYOUTHOUSE?

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 5:44 pm

    Jethro, I don't know about Ty, but I do have an outhouse in my backyard. Bought it from a wood worker/artist in Pollock Pines. Do you know the carving in the door indicates whether it is a man, woman, or coed outhouse. Bet you didn't know that.

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  • Jethro McSwiftJuly 20, 2013 - 6:00 pm

    James E. - herez a link to ty robben. Sniff th comments. Smelz like the OCCUPYER in my honey hole - prolly the same as OccupyPlacerville . . . LINK - Man protests alleged corruption outside courthouse, DA’s Office

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 6:03 pm

    Jethro, are you really Phil. Strange but your link shows like Phil's links. Fess up.

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  • James E.July 20, 2013 - 6:14 pm

    Vouchers. If I'm well-to-do, I send my child to private school and the tuition is $20,000 a year. So the parents of child that wants to escape a bad school gets a voucher for $10,000 (same as the $10,000 voucher going to the well-to-do parent). But, the child who wants to escape a bad school cannot go a private school because the tuition is $20,000 and his family doesn't have the extra tuition needed. So, final result is their voucher is meaningless, while the well-to-do parents get a $10,000 voucher to help pay the tuition they were already paying. Looks like the well-to-do parents win and the other parents get a worthless piece of paper. Also, I assume the teachers at El Dorado High School are in a union. Has this caused El Dorado High School to fail? Are students coming out of this high school ashamed of their school because it is a failing school? I don't think so.

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  • LpJuly 20, 2013 - 9:28 pm

    Some people have been sniffing the paint!

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 20, 2013 - 9:57 pm

    . . . and in addition to bad lead's keen observations add this. Everybody . . . repeat EVERYBODY . . . who ate CARROTS 1813 died. And everybody who eats carrots today will die. But does the EPA care? I don't think so. OCCUPY the EPA.

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  • Occupy the EPAJuly 22, 2013 - 10:47 am

    I think the point of Cccupy Placerville is that the EPA didn't make the rules. The fact that blame is laid on Business Owners and Contractors, isn't for the lead on the house, its the dust they make. They want a, condom, if you will on the house, to "RRP" the dust containing lead paint. The Manufacturers, of lead paint, and I'm not sure if Benjenmin Moore is a manufacturer, but if lead paint is disabling the brains of people in USA, it benefits Politicians for one, as people can't tell when officials i.e. "Uncle Sam," reach into their privacy and molest their rights. Additionally, manufacturers have paid millions of dollars to attorneys and possibly bribes, you never know, to Judges to find that leead paint is not their responsibility, as that is what all the court cases say. Only if Tobacco industry had such clout. What is apparant is that manufacturers who made the lead paint, cannot rationally be seen is innocent bystanders, yet the courts fail to discipline them. There is your clue! So the EPA, if you attack them, they are just following the orders of the courts. Not their fault. YOu must redirect your activism to the appropriate corrupt officials.

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  • James E.July 21, 2013 - 1:56 am

    Phil, it's true. People who ate carrots in 1813 died. And, people who eat carrots in 2013 will also die. Depressing thought isn't it. No more carrots for me and maybe I'll be the exception to the rule. Two AM in the morning. Why am I still on this computer? I'm going to bed.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 21, 2013 - 5:15 am

    James wonders, "Two AM in the morning. Why am I still on this computer?"~~~ BAD NEWS, James. TOXICARROTOSIS. ~~~ Posting on the Mountain Democrat forum at 2 AM before going to bed is an indicator of TOXICARROTOSIS Another indicator is waking up at 4:30 AM and posting on the Mountain Democrat forum by 5 AM. We're both screwed, James. I wonder if Ty Robben eats carrots. As far as I'm concerned OccupyPlacerville can eat carrots and die! Screw 'em!!!

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  • EldoradoJuly 21, 2013 - 7:56 pm

    When you learn to spell poison and lead, call me. Oh, it is all Bush's fault... don't want to leave that out.... Occupy Mars...

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  • James E.July 21, 2013 - 8:37 pm

    There are lots of things that are Bush's fault. Which one in particular are you thinking of?

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  • testJuly 22, 2013 - 8:58 am

    test

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  • Arbitrary Death wishes Phil?July 22, 2013 - 8:59 am

    Occupyplacerville is not affiliated with OccupyWallStreet, who blames USA woes on Walmart, Corporations, etc. They totally ignore the fact that the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution grants all the rights that now exist in all businesses. Corporations influence public officials with graft to modify the Commerce Clause and grant exceptions and that is the basis to attack! Wallstreet cannot modify the constitution without bribes, and officials are absolutely immune, according to Alden v. Maine 1999 U.S. if a suit is filed to redress of grievances, the main function of Democracy has been made unconstitutional. Further more, OccupyPlacerville does not blame Obama or Bush or Walmart for creating anger that has affected the hearts of people like Phil Veerkamp who wished PEOPLE TO "DIE," a trait once held by NAZI's on other human beings, that apparently will never be deterred. I always held the Veerkamp name in high honor, but you never know do you? OccupyPlacerville is merely pointing out court cases and the California State Judicial Counsel who has found that Judge James Wagoner is guilty of the same felony that Orange County Elected Sheriff Mike Carona was sent to prison for, "obstruction of a grand jury investigation." This FACT is public record on file at the STATE CJP web site, not some opinionated rant from occupyplacerville! Phill Veerkamp who wishes death on individuals, merely is unable to discern or comprehend that government corruption is doing more harm than the hippy occupywallstreet free speech protesters can ever do. Free speech is supposed to be protected. It doesn't have to be agreed with. Like Stalin, former premier USSR, Phil Veerkamp distains public participation, whose viewpoint focuses on corrupt officials, perhaps his friend? That would make some sense. OccupyPlacerville does not agree with Occupy Wall Street Protest! They missed the point! It is only .01% the PUBLIC OFFICIALS who turn a blind eye to corruption, and our courts have stated that "failure to discipline officials" is how they find the guilty municipalities, and that abrogates immunity! So each of these who willfully ignore these facts abrogate immunity! Its a matter of time and finding an honest crime fighter if one exists. They do in Orange County, their sheriff Mike Carona is in prison for "obstructing a grand jury investigation. So the crimes were done, and all they can wait for is statute of limitations to run out, and corrupt Judges like James Wagoner or Magistrate Edmund F. Brennan are seeing to that! continued.....

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  • Arbitrary Death wishes Phil?July 22, 2013 - 9:04 am

    OccupyPlacerville Com has caused a polarization that is unavoidable do to natural law and nature itself. The question is, do the Phil Veerkamps of the world benefit from corruption? It seems obvious, do to his heartfelt defense and attack, not an attack on the opinion of OccupyPlacerville, that he has some stake in hiding corruption, but the news about the California State Judicial Counsel press release, that Judge James Wagoner is a serial criminal, according to the acts Wagoner was found guilty of by this state investigatory agency. Its up to prosecutors to prosecute him, and Vern Pierson sees a benefit of hanging the prosecution over Wagoners head to receive favorable decisions, opening possibility for overturning cases in El Dorado County like Lacy Dugards case and many more under the open corruption where Wagoner's Judicial Canon is openly violated due to an obvious conflict of interest not to offend a District Attorney who could prosecute Judge James Wagoner but does not! What is the trade off? Favorable decisions? That cannot be disputed, yet Placerville citizens cannot comprehend this, is it the lead paint or inbreeding? We don't know! But lets stop it!

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  • Arbitrary Death wishes Phil?July 22, 2013 - 9:05 am

    continued....Now the Supreme Court has identified elements to determine if "wide spread corruption" is apparent in a community. All that is needed is for a county to violate and acquiesce to just one of the precedents that prohibit but identify violating counties or "municipalities." Remember in Ninth Circuit court of appeals case 11-17344, exhibit A1, A2, A3, show that the El Dorado County BOSD2 on official correspondence, undaunted by wire fraud statutes, committed wire fraud when the BOSD2, according to official correspondence exhibit A's, organized a crime syndicate naming "Assemblyman Ted Gaines and his aid Steve Davey, Sheriff Jeff Neves, and Kollar, D.A. Dick Jones and Vern Piearson, Code enforcement, BOSD2, and other officials," that if questioned by outside "investigating" agencies, that they would "agree to fabricate false arrest reports" in order to discredit investigators, see exhibit A1. Where this fell apart was that they didn't figure that the investigators would ask for actual "arrest report case numbers" which did not exist. We did see Sheriffs "stepping down," two BOSD2 supervisors arrested now, as if my claims have no substance? Smell the coffee Phil! Continued....

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  • Arbitrary Death wishes Phil?July 22, 2013 - 9:09 am

    Continued....The late Senator Dave Cox provided this evidence exhibit A1, A2, A3, apparently out of honesty and a desire to meet his maker with a clean heart! This type of evidence is so rare in a corruption case, the Supreme Court usually relies on "inferences from the overt acts" to find corruption in a municipality see, H.L. Moore Drug Exch. v. Eli Lilly & Co., 662 F.2d 935, 941 (2d Cir. 1981): Start Quote "See, e.g., ES Dev., Inc. v. RWM Enters., 939 F.2d 547, 553-54 (8th Cir. 1991) ("it is axiomatic that the typical conspiracy is 'rarely evidenced by explicit~ agreements: but must almost always be proved by 'inferences that may be drawn from the behavior of the alleged conspirators"') (quoting H.L. Moore Drug Exch. v. Eli Lilly & Co., 662 F.2d 935, 941 (2d Cir. 1981), cert. denied 459 U.S. 880 (1982)), cert. denied, 502 U.S. 1097 (1992)." End quote So we See that OccupyPlacerville is merely pointing out facts that offend only the minds of corrupt individuals. Nevertheless, the Supreme Court has plenty things that according to Sherlock Holmes are "Elementary my dear Watson." Complicity or the "accomplices" or "co-conspirators," like to hide, like Phil VeerKamp who, though probabyl not a conspirator, advertises like a good year blimp that he does not want anybody to think that OccupyPlacerville has good investigative journalism chops, and is on to something. It is a fact that a whole Jurisdiction of so called Crime Fighters, are trying to cover up an Elephant in the room with a tea towel, and Phil Veerkamp seems to be the publicist to deter any rational thought from transpiring. Some would protest but can't handle being criticized by Phil Veerkamps of the world, reminiscent of cross burnings in front yards, except in press commentary . Consequently, our Supreme Court again said, if "overt" acts take place, be cautious! But you more honests citizens are not listening! However, El Dorado County is in the Ninth Circuit district of appellate courts. So they too, are pretty sharp, they said in 219 F3d 1018 Estate of Maria Teresa Macias v. Mark Ihde: Start Quote: ” In Macias v. Ihde "...the court ignored the evidence that [the Appellees'] ARBITRARY failure to enforce the law caused [Mrs. Macias] to suffer not only her murder on April 15,.” 1996, but the three months of harassment, stalking, and death threats that proceeded it." End quote. So we see that the Evidence in the El Dorado County courts are being ignored, not only by "the courts," but the D.A. and Sheriff. They turn a blind eye. But! Aha! Judge James Wagoner was busted by the Judicial Counsel covering up a complaint alleging corruption by D.A. Vern Pierson! Aha! Starting to make sense? So in the Macias case, because "evidence is ignored," people complain about it and "Phil Veerkamp" steps forwarding defending corruption starting the DEATH wishes, that according to the Macias court is caused by " ARBITRARY failure to enforce the law..." Phil Veerkamp, whether he will carry out the his Desire for the DEATH of OcuppyPlacerville, or it be someone else, the goal is, even if DEATH be the means, this "redress of grievances" in the press will end, allowing the next victim. Victim of Vern Pierson et. al. to set up a similar scenario that ended a law suit against him when he set the stage for the Murder of John O'Sullivan. Retired Sheriff Zimmerman, created a delusion similar to that of "Phil Veerkamp" and became "emboldened and acted with greater impunity" than does Phil's idle wishes of DEATH. Zimmerman shot O'Sullivan in the back 3 or 4 times. Zimmerman, (no a coincidence) is in prison serving his life! But John O'Sullivan has stopped pointing out the corruption of Vern Pierson, and that is the desire, that Phil Veerkamp is referring to. In Elliot Park v. Maglona, the Ninth Circuit 2010 warned municipalities that if they "ignore evidence..." (macias), that "...would be criminals, (like Phil Veerkamp who could become like Zimmerman a criminal), could be emboldened and act with greater impunity..." under a delusion that they are backed up by the Municipality. Psychosis causes seemingly normal people to hear voices. Typically, you can recognize this by a persons inability to comprehend for follow logical facts, similar to Phil VeerKamps failure to comprehend a logical syllogism. Just because OccupyPlacerville has the word "occupy" in it, he errs as Occupy is against Corporations, and OccupyPlacerivlle is against corrupt municipalities who allow vigilantes to become "criminals embolden to act with greater impunity." Followers of Phil have the mental capacity to find a spell check mistake, and according to them that totally destroys the argument. This is the mentality we face among long time Placervillains. Emphsis on the "villains." Continued.... You see in the Macias and O'Sullivan case, municipality officials use these ELEMENTS, take advantage of them as a murder weapon by proxy to allow certain nut jobs they allow by obstructing justice through inaction, to kill those who complain. As a result, it is obvious that the OccupyPlacerville Complaint has caused Phil Veerkamp to articulate a desire for him/her to "DIE?" See, sociopathic rhetoric James E, again I make no idle comments, they are backed up by fact! Government corruption cannot be hid, merely by Phil Veerkamp creating a chilling affect to prevent cowardly commentators afraid of Phil's criticism the rises to the point of violent rage where a human displays total lack of empathy for human life. His public proud remarks are overt, where he desires victims of abuse, the motive perhaps the accusing his friends, to "DIE! This is a socopathic trait, see Robert Hare PhD "Snakes in Suits." I don't know if Phil wears a suit, but he wears lack of empathy, and it seems to fit quite well. All it would take is a provable reference that refutes my claims. There is none! There can be none! It is public record and the truth! So in closing, the Supreme Court again identifies how people can know if their municipality is corrupt. In City of Canton, Ohio v. Harris - 489 U.S. 378 (1989) and in Monell v. Dept of Soc. Servs., 436 U.S. 658, 701 (1978), the Supreme Court teaches us, that it is U.S. Law accuses the above named officials, and their ACCOMPLICES, who turn a blind eye and "Fail to Discipline" public employees; not OccupyPlacerville! The Supreme Court says that officials abrogate immunity and can be sued into bankruptcy, contrary to what their county counsel may tell them. All the county counsel can offer is assurance that they have purchased all the judges to ignore Supreme Court precedence! That may be temporary however, and like the Nuremburg war trials, they hang in the end! Ahh finally a meaningful explanation of Hang Town could present itself . This public exposure is a right under Bogan v. Scott-Harris U.S. 1998 and is intended to be a deterrent to keep scum like these out of office. So the key is "failure to discipline." The court says that "failure to discipline" is the sign of corruption for municipality, and those responsible will abrogate immunity, which abrogates personal assets! Think about it! It only takes one hero in El Dorado county in office to be able to win a landslide of support by telling the truth! D.A. Vern Pierson has barred "the people" of California from the courtrooms and has a Judge in his pocket that he could prosecute and put in prison hands down, due to the conclusion of James Wagoner's trial by the Judicial Counsel. These are just a few of the facts that OccupyPlacerville has pointed out already, and there has been no "discipline."

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  • Arbitrary Death wishes Phil?July 22, 2013 - 9:12 am

    Now the Supreme Court has identified elements to determine if "wide spread corruption" is apparent in a community. All that is needed is for a county to violate and acquiesce to just one of the precedents that prohibit but identify violating counties or "municipalities." Remember in Ninth Circuit court of appeals case 11-17344, exhibit A1, A2, A3, show that the El Dorado County BOSD2 on official correspondence, undaunted by wire fraud statutes, committed wire fraud when the BOSD2, according to official correspondence exhibit A's, organized a crime syndicate naming "Assemblyman Ted Gaines and his aid Steve Davey, Sheriff Jeff Neves, and Kollar, D.A. Dick Jones and Vern Piearson, Code enforcement, BOSD2, and other officials," that if questioned by outside "investigating" agencies, that they would "agree to fabricate false arrest reports" in order to discredit investigators, see exhibit A1. Where this fell apart was that they didn't figure that the investigators would ask for actual "arrest report case numbers" which did not exist. We did see Sheriffs "stepping down," two BOSD2 supervisors arrested now, as if my claims have no substance? Smell the coffee Phil! Continued....

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  • Hey Eldorado!July 22, 2013 - 10:51 am

    When you learn to spell El Dorado, then correct other peoples spelling... gerble deee [insert image of baby Huey here]

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  • Seems this debate is closedJuly 22, 2013 - 11:03 am

    Not to bring up a nasty subject, but Placerville has just made it to the top of the list for beating a dead horse in some other local news!

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 23, 2013 - 8:48 am

    OccupyPlacerville.com beginning at 8:59AM and ending 9:09 AM posts 1902 words comprised of 11,412 characters and spaces. OccupyPlacerville invokes my name 22 times, "death wish" 4 times "death" 9 times and "die" 3 times. OccupyPlacerville asserts that he (Ty Robben?) is not associated with Occupy Wall Street. Really??? Same terrorist Black Bloc tactics. Pissoff and threaten somebody else with your cut-and-paste spam machine

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  • Stop making death wishesJuly 23, 2013 - 10:59 am

    Phil, though I'm not sure if it is illegal that you wish occupyplacerville "die," Don't you think your hypocrasy is evident if you try to associate your death wish on the author of Occupy Placerville? Here is your direct quote, for the record, "OccupyPlacerville can eat carrots and die! Screw 'em!!!" Bizarre rhetoric, may be a joke to you, but if OccupyPlacerville does "die," you have public aired your desire that he does, but of course, carrots only create better vision. Is it that time of the month? Ty Robben has nothing to do with occupyplacerville, there are no references to him or cases involving him. You sound like 6 year old after someone licked the red off his candy! Get a life and stop defending corruption!

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  • Religious Dude!July 23, 2013 - 11:04 am

    While we are at, I checked bible gatway dot com! I'm with Phil! Death is mentioned in the bible 456 times, please arrest all the preachers too!

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  • Phil RainmanJuly 23, 2013 - 11:06 am

    I checked! there only 10402 characters, and I must have fruit of the loom!

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  • Don't have timeJuly 23, 2013 - 11:14 am

    Hi, I don't have time to read 10,000 characters, but if there are death threats aganst you Phil, do what occupy did, and "cut and paste" them so people can see if your are delusional or justified in your paranoia.

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  • Defeat Occupy's argumentJuly 23, 2013 - 12:46 pm

    Instead of attacking the character of Occupy with personal insults, defeat his argument, you would appear more credible. Apparantly the site claims a California State Agency found that Judge James Wagoner was found guilty of "obstructing a grand jury investigation" by using his power to personally, outaside his court, threaten to arrest and fine a "married couple in 2009" who witnessed Vern Pierson cover up violent crime. Dispute this, and you might make some sense Phil? What is it about the OccupyPlacerville site that you do not like? There was nothing about George Buseh or Rumsfeld that I could tell. In other words, why are you so haunted by the web site? You did say, in a post with your name you wanted occupy to die? Why is it innapropriate for you to complain about his noting your dark desires? Ty Robben, always signs his name to stuff, I don't think it was him, did he offend you?

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  • EvelynJuly 23, 2013 - 1:07 pm

    I've gone back to have a look; Ty Robben does sign his own name. And though the issues he writes about overlap with those that have expressed on this page, his writing style differs. Also, his spelling is noticeably better!

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  • Bad Spellers are retardedJuly 24, 2013 - 4:26 am

    Bad Spellers are retarded and deserve to be picked on by corrupt officials. I think when they come accross people who are bed spellers they automatically know to pick on them. Just like the people complaining about corrupt government! If they spell bad, they must be sort of retarded, and they probably deserve to be abused by the government! I agree! Bad Spelling is a dead give away!

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  • EvelynJuly 23, 2013 - 1:11 pm

    A number of Ty Robben's comments can be found HERE.

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  • Occupy Placerville appologyJuly 24, 2013 - 5:35 am

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  • Occupy Placerville appologyJuly 24, 2013 - 5:36 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsgaFKwUA6g

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  • Do not be ashamed!July 24, 2013 - 6:15 am

    Don't let anybody shame you for reporting constituent molesters who molest the rights of citizens who have not the means to defend against corruption and abuse of power! Never let cronyism and those who defend the corrupt with tactics such as DARVO Deny Attack Reverse Victim and Offender! LINK - DARVO DARVO was first noted as used by Sx Offenders, but as you see has been adopted by Constituent Molesters, and those who support civil right violations that molest the rights of constituent. In the near future, there will actually be "Marcy Law" type legislation that will expose officials, who constantly use the Eleventh Amendment as a right to be free from liability for "Constituent Molestations." Occupy Placerville are crime victims protected under the California Constitution Art. § 28. Among these rights are 1. To be treated with fairness and respect for his or her privacy and dignity, and to be free from intimidation, harassment, and abuse, throughout the criminal or juvenile justice process. 2. To be reasonably protected from the defendant and persons acting on behalf of the defendant. 3. To have the safety of the victim and the victim’s family considered in fixing the amount of bail and release conditions for the defendant. 4. To prevent the disclosure of confidential information or records to the defendant, the defendant’s attorney, or any other person acting on behalf of the defendant, which could be used to locate or harass the victim or the victim’s family or which disclose confidential communications made in the course of medical or counseling treatment, or which are otherwise privileged or confidential by law. It is clear who are "persons acting on behalf of the defendant" criminals who are violating crime victim bill of rights by attacking Occupy Placerville without attacking or disputing of the claims, other than bad spelling, or blaming party's not involved! People who major on the minors are outing themselves persons who cannot comprehend major premises of logic, and it is not flattering! Spelling is one thing, but inability to comprehend a point is another. Crime victims are protected from disclosing identities of victims of their crimes. I would suggest checking with the Judicial Counsel web site, which is where the information from OccupyPlaerville originated from to make the allegations, in addition to the Ninth Circuit Appellate, Eastern District, and El Dorado County Superior courts, which also provides public records to substantiate allegations. Attacking Crime Victims without basis violates the intent and dignity of Crime Victims! Using tactics Sx offenders use to attempt to misconstrue facts to defend criminals also is not very flattering.

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  • EvelynJuly 24, 2013 - 6:17 am

    @ 4:26 am: I trust you are joking? That was not my point at all. I was simply indicating differences between the two.

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  • EvelynJuly 24, 2013 - 6:19 am

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  • Democracy Unite against Corruption!July 24, 2013 - 6:24 am

    LINK - "Brut's have risen to power! IN EL DORADO COUNTY! They lie they do not fulfill the promise! They never will! Dictators FREE THEMSELVES, but they enslave the people! ...Soldiers of Democracy let us all unite!"--Charley Chaplin

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  • Democracy Unite against Corruption!July 24, 2013 - 6:25 am

    Evylyn, you are a dear heart, "Eldorado" was not making the distinction. You have immunity! :)

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  • Democracy Unite against Corruption!July 24, 2013 - 7:06 am

    OccupyPlaerville originated from to make the allegations, in addition to the Ninth Circuit Appellate, Eastern District, and El Dorado County Superior courts, which also provides public records to substantiate allegations. Attacking Crime Victims without basis violates the intent and dignity of Crime Victims! Using tactics Sex offenders use to attempt to misconstrue facts to defend criminals also is not very flattering. But I been a bad speller all my life, even though I graduated cum laude and then Magna cum laude from college. lol go figure! Guess spelling wasn't a required class! I think its something that I've never been able to overcome, its part of my humanity. But it does serve a purpose to draw out and expose those whose ill will intent disregards humanity by judging the minor flaws that do not affect life in a serious way, over substance. For instance, when I was on the college news paper, we had editors whose job was to fix those things. I typically use a spell checker, and homophones are unaviodable. So when the argument cannot be disputed, Aristotle said the most evil persons with ill intent will resort to ad hominem abuse, and those like minded audience, those without "intellectual resources," according to Stanford School of Philosophy, will be deceived by it. Unfortunately, I don't have intellectual resources to spell without a spell checker. I marvel at those who pass off that they also do this. I personally never criticize spelling, but I do criticize those who cannot properly identify a major premise in a categorical syllogism. For instance, All decent humans are not good spellers. That is a syllogism. It has a logical form. Being a decent human should be enough. Accusing somebody of escaping justice who was found guilty by a state agency is what decent humans do to warn others that they may be a victim of constituent molesting because law enforcement is friends with the criminal. But others who can't dispute the argument, look for other weaknesses, because it has been studied by psychologists and philosophers that people who do not have intellectual resources can overlook truth do to minor flaws in a humans ability to not be perfect, even though the person they defend may be a monster. County's actually find people who will work for nothing and become grand jurors, because they do not have to understand philosophy and logic. Sometimes when other Grand Jurors learn logic, the counties shut them down and find more stooges who are inept and will be easily manipulated. This is what the Counsel on Judicial performance found regarding Judge James Wagoner's ability to commit fraud and wire fraud and interfere with a grand jury investigation. Grand Jurors chosen to investigate crime cannot observe crime when it is in their presence, they have to be "instructed" what is crime, but they are supposed to be "independent." When they become "independent" another judge shuts down the grand jury and finds other grand jurors who they can boss around. This is done and reported in the paper right out in the open, and a whole county of potential grand jurors don't even recognize what they are doing except one or two maybe three people. 20/20 is hindsight, I have 20/15. Ignorance is bliss, I miss bliss! It was so peaceful! Jurors in El Dorado County are probably given a spelling bee. If they can spell, but cannot smell crime, they are in!

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  • FranJuly 24, 2013 - 7:25 am

    Lololol...good morning...thought id share this article...made me smile. Everyone have a great morning. Horse in McDonald's brings poop, fine for owner Read more: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/Blog/2013/07/23/Horse-in-McDonalds-brings-poop-fine-for-owner/6091374594591/#ixzz2ZyNwpTAz

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