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From page A5 | January 25, 2013 | 37 Comments

In a letter to Vice President Joe Biden, El Dorado County Sheriff John D’Agostini declared that he will not “be pressured into enforcing any unconstitutional provision, law or executive order” when it comes to gun control.

“Gun control is not a fix,” D’Agostini told the Mountain Democrat on Jan. 22. “The fix is dealing with mental illness and antisocial behavior.” The Sheriff also mentioned these in his letter, noting that if communities were able to keep criminals out and the treatment for the mentally ill was expanded, America would “experience an immensely measurable decrease in violent crime.” He closed the letter with, “My agency will continue to support and defend the constitutional rights of all we serve, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion.”

D’Agostini pointed out that gun control had been tried but didn’t work. “An armed society is a safe society,” he said, expanding on his letter.

The Second Amendment is not the only part of the Constitution under threat, he said, but also the Fourth and Fifth if the government were to “collect and ban and confiscate” firearms.

 

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  • J.R.January 24, 2013 - 11:53 am

    Hangtown may be in your boundaries but reality is this is NOT the Wild West. What part of "well regulated" militia do you not understand? There is no denying that guns that are legally owned are more likely to injure or kill those in a household than protect them. Common sense dictates further regulations are needed.

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  • Judith MathatJanuary 24, 2013 - 12:41 pm

    Anyone who does not understand or believe that Sheriff John D'Agostini is referring not only to the document that provides the rule of law he has been sworn to defend, but the demise of which is playing a dangerous game with their and our freedom's. If you listened to Senator John Kerry 's opening remarks about working towards One World Government being more important now than in the early 90's you are not only delusional as to think this is a gun control issue, it is exactly what our forefathers forewarned us about it's true meaning. The 2nd Amendment of the Constitution was meant to allow the citizens of the United States to defend themselves (not go hunting to feed themselves), against others, including their own government. Think otherwise? Ask anyone who is a survivor of the last many wars, I & II, the Nazi's and the Soviet Union and other countries who employed means to disarm their citizens before they committed the most inhumane acts ever recorded in modern history. Love Socialism, Communism? move to Europe, Russia and even China and find that they have seen the impact that the socialist enlistments have done to their countries and are turning to Capitalism to turn their economies around and prosper. It is not about just the right to bear arms but it will ultimately be about the right to live free and own your own property and enjoy other freedoms under the Bill of Rights. Gun control is only one way that emotionalism is being employed to undermine the foundation of freedoms and right to live free that we are at risks of losing those rights. Turn our backs on the real reasons for the loss of our 2nd Amendment rights, removes yet another stone in the foundation of Liberty.

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  • J.R.January 24, 2013 - 2:39 pm

    Judith, the NRA is an extremely powerful lobbying organization and has worked to make guns more accessible without any type of regulation. Back in the day, before being financed by gun manufacturers they were the ones to PROMOTE gun regulation and laws. Go hunker down in your bunker, stockpile food, and buy a couple of gas masks. You seem highly susceptible to irrational fear currently marketed by far right. Do you think weapons would save us from a takeover when there are so many more advanced weapons available now? Do you need a semi-automatic to hunt (if so, might I suggest you find another hobby), and the same for self- protection which technically should have another name because people who own guns are more likely to be injured or killed with their own weapon than have said weapon used for self defense. When does common sense come into play? Humanity?

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  • Dink LaneJanuary 24, 2013 - 12:54 pm

    The 2nd Amendment says: "A WELL REGULATED MILITIA".... that is the purpose... It doesn't say give everyone all the guns and amo they want. If it does -- then Charles Manson should have the "right" to a gun today....... If Joe Blow wants an AK-15.... He should have to go through the training that comes under the description of a "A WELL REGULATED MILITIA.".... Gen. Powell + Gen. McChrystal SAID.... Just like Not everyone is qualified to be in the Army.....NOT everyone should have these guns.....

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  • Dink LaneJanuary 24, 2013 - 1:02 pm

    SECOND POINT: Vice President Biden's letter dated Jan. 16 ACTUALLY says: "All firearms recovered after the date of this memorandum in the course of criminal investigations and taken into Federal custody are traced through ATF."....... read that again.... Guns in a crime..... TRACED..... NOWHERE in the 2nd Amendment does it say...guns can't be TRACED..... in fact the Gallop Poll says 93% want this...... the ABC/WSJ poll says 86% want this..... but CRIMINALS + PARANOIDS do not want this.... So our SHERIFF is listening to the criminals OVER 90% of the population????

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  • Dink LaneJanuary 24, 2013 - 1:04 pm

    Mental Health issue..... A 1 cent fee on each and every bullet should pay for that!

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  • Judith MathatJanuary 24, 2013 - 1:57 pm

    This is about someone who knew what the real reason for owning arms means. Not some minutiae about bullets and types of weapons, which has been entirely avoided in the main discussion of the 2nd Amendment. We have so many laws on the books now about gun control that are not enforced, not more added to the mix and the over 4000 incidents of guns in schools around the world states that it was not the type of weapon but the FACTS that drugs, prescription or other wise was a contributing factor in the perpetrator using not just guns but other weapons as well. Get with the reality of the subject not liberal progressive koolaid! There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism — government. Lord Acton said power corrupts. Surely then, if this is true, the more power we give the government the more corrupt it will become. And if we give it the power to confiscate our arms we also give up the ultimate means to combat that corrupt power. In doing so we can only assure that we will eventually be totally subject to it. Ronald Regan What will you think when you see the millions of Americans interred by this government who try to take away their rigghts? I know that the ash graves in Dachau I visited are of the people who opposed and then of those who ignored the threats. Enough said as those who will not learn will eventually be the subjects of their ignorance.

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  • cookie65January 25, 2013 - 5:05 am

    I have seen where nearly 75% of all gun violence in this country is gang realated using hand guns. The leftists don't care about gun violence, they only care about abolishing the 2nd amendment. A disarmed society is like an uneducated society, much easier to conquer. Which explains the success the leftists have had ruining our education system.

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  • cookie65January 25, 2013 - 5:15 am

    J.R. the 2nd amendment speaks solely about the rights of the citizens and not at all about the rights of the government. Attempting to revise it is pathetic at best. In fact the Constitution is written to restrict government. Something obama and all the left clearly have no use for. The answer to your concern is simple, if you don't like guns don't own any. You have no right or business telling any law abiding citizen what they can own. The writers of the bill of rights were addressing the government becoming what is has become and the citizens being able to defend themselves from it. I have always wondered about people who actualy believe the government has thier interests in mind. I have never been able to drink that koolaid.

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  • NancyJanuary 25, 2013 - 6:14 am

    Thank you, Sheriff John, for protecting We The People and the Constitution of the United States of America.

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  • Shingle SeniorJanuary 25, 2013 - 8:48 am

    The sheriff of this county does not speak for me or my family. He was elected to the office by the people and can be removed from that office by the voting people. The right and his paranoia about the government "is coming to take our guns" is childish and out of touch. No one needs an assault rifle and 100 rounds of ammunition to protect them or their property. When the Faux bubble people play the paranoia and fear card the right falls all over themselves in the thought that the government is coming to take their guns and freedom. Pleezzeeee go get a life and some common sense for once in your life.

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  • QuantrellJanuary 25, 2013 - 9:08 am

    The Militia is alive and well in el dorado county I am the commanding officer of the Army of the Mississippi. We have been recruiting Law enforcement into our ranks for along time search for Oathkeepers and you will see how many cops and soldiers take the oath seriously.IF house to house gun sweeps occur. WE will open fire on any and all UN peacekeepers.LOCAL BOYS WILL NOT COMPLY see Title 10 section 311 United States Code US law says we are ALL in the Militia.

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  • Jim RiordanJanuary 25, 2013 - 10:16 am

    Judy, thanks for the well thought out, well written letters. Cookie, thank you as well. I support our Sheriff 100%. "that's why I done voted for him 5 times", to quote an Obamanation voter and EBT consumer with her free phone.

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  • 1036-FrankJanuary 25, 2013 - 10:17 am

    The elected county Sheriff will likely turn into a last line of defense against ever expanding ridiculous federal and state attempts at unconstitutional laws. Who would of thought that a federal agency in this county would order hundreds of miles of county roads in use for 150 years be closed to the public, remember this is "public land." Who would of thought a liberal socialist Austrian born Governor without a clue about the history of the western states or the Gold Rush would order that recreational gold mining be prohibited in the "Golden State." The liberals hate the idea that the law abiding people have a set in stone right to bear arms, they want a liquid easy to change Constitution based on their new subjective ideas for the times. The liberals, if they were serious about crime, would propose life sentences for armed felons and armed mentally disturbed people, they didn't. the fed's have an inability to protect citizens now and will in the future. look at the open Southern border, where heavily armed drug gangs are flooding into the country. These gangs have many former U.S. military trained and equipped former Mexican military members and they are packing full military grade weapons, hand grenades and RPG's. Shouldn't this be a major concern of the federal govt? For now, they are operating in the border states. The current liberals in power have not done much to go after them and these drug gangs will continue to prey on both sides of the border. Of course most of these liberals who know what you need and what you don't would be afraid to go within a mile of the unguarded areas of the border. Ask any Arizona or Texas Sheriff about these cartel gangs and their armament and if Law abiding citizens in the U.S. should be disarmed. Further, rifles that are semi-automatic, have been used to hunt with and protect homes for over one hundred years. The actions of a few criminals and mental cases should never cause freedom to be taken from the law abiding. If liberals are serious about crime they will go after the criminals and demand that any felon or mentally disturbed person who illegally is in possession of a firearm be locked up for a very long time.

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  • Dink LaneJanuary 25, 2013 - 11:21 am

    Quantrell: Actually "Title 10 Sec. 311" says all able-bodied males between 17-45 + People who are NOT citizens but want to be..(Hum, Illegals...) & Females who are "MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL GUARD.).... So the 2nd Amendment is for A WELL REGULATED MILITIA. Not everyone.... Just like Not everyone should have a gun..... Think people, think about what you are saying.... You want people like Alan Lanza (shot 20 1st graders) to HAVE a gun? Think, think....

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  • 830pcJanuary 25, 2013 - 1:40 pm

    J.R. I looked up common sense and did not see your name or pic. Just because you choose to be a victim and not protect your family and property, don't waste time on the rest of us who will not cowar.

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  • J.R.January 25, 2013 - 2:55 pm

    830pc: If you want to look up a word, may I suggest the word FACT. You appear to need vocabulary assistance. If you decide to continue this journey of personal vocabulary expansion you might get to another word, FICTION. In the interest of time might I suggest you skip this word as it apparent you are quite familiar with it, indeed a little dip in REALITY from time to time does wonders for clearing the mind. Speaking of minds, to be HONEST I am rather worried about the state of yours. You live under the false impression that you can look up a definition of a word to find information on a blogger (including name and a photo). Another REASON: why do you find such information necessary? I'm just a lil' old tree hugging country blogger. I have never felt the need to join in the ridiculous hysteria many prescribe to: government takeover, government control etc. However, it has come to my attention that all that is required to commit a truly evil and despicable deed is to have one lone person become angry and possess a weapon. This is TRUTH, (go ahead and check for meaning). I feel compelled to be COMPASSIONATE and offer this advice..... Are you aware that the government backs student loans? I highly suggest that you seek further education. Nonsensical rambling is highly unproductive and is a poor reflection on your intelligence. My quota for good deeds for the day fulfilled, I bid you goodbye with this last quote, it is from a rather famous figure, who was once PRESIDENT of this great nation. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" Franklin Delano Roosevelt You may research factual content of said quote at the LIBRARY.

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  • Political posturingJanuary 25, 2013 - 3:52 pm

    The fact many people in our county, including the Sheriff actually believe in an invisible army over the horizon waiting to impose tyranny, that our nation’s problem with violent crime is not an issue of firearms but entirely an issue of mental health and that some body wants to kick your door down and take your guns away, is confusing. But not that confusing when you consider gun manufacturing is a 99 billion dollar industry annually and donation of almost a million went mostly to Congress. In our nation today, out of 3,250 Sheriffs and almost 18,000 Police Chiefs less than 6150 in good standing Nation wide oppose gun control. Our Sheriff John D’Agostini is one of them. Political posturing by our elected Sheriff on the most divisive issue in our country today reflects poorly on the people El Dorado County and should be taken into account when he runs for re-election

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  • CorrectionJanuary 25, 2013 - 3:58 pm

    61 now on record***********

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  • DKantzJanuary 25, 2013 - 7:04 pm

    In part, the Supreme Court's 2008 majority opinion (Justice Scalia) in District of Columbia v. Heller states: "Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms." I'm wondering what "unconstitutional provisions, laws, executive orders (or (probably quite a bit more accurately "executive memoranda")" does Sheriff D'Agostini have in mind to not be pressured into enforcing? As for Judith Mathat, cookie65, Jim Riordan, and Quantrell (and the many who agree with them) who believe the 2nd Amendment was drafted to defend against the potential that our own government might turn tyrannical, consider: the full text of the 2nd Amendment is "A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." And Article 2 Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states (in part): "The president shall be commander in chief ... of the militia of the several states, when called into actual service of the United States..." If the 2nd Amendment was to defend against the possible tyranny of our own government tyrant, why would the Founder's have named the President to be the militia's commander in chief? And Quantrell, I think you may be on shaky ground since, as far as I know, "the militia of the several states has yet to have been called into actual service of the United States..." -- certainly not by the President who is the commander in chief of any militia called into service in accord with the Constitution! In fact, the Founder's purpose for the 2nd Amendment was to provide a "well-regulated militia" (in combination with the army and navy) in case it was needed to repel invasion by another nation (as Britain did attempt invasion of the U.S. in 1812).

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 25, 2013 - 8:04 pm

    Key phrase in the 2A most folks miss who argue the points Kantz in trying to argue:"A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state..." It's that darned "free state" thing. If the federal government becomes tyrannical, the state is no longer free. That's when "the people" who are also the "militia" were expected by the authors of the 2A to take arms.

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  • Thomas JeffersonJanuary 25, 2013 - 8:05 pm

    "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."

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  • Judith MathatJanuary 25, 2013 - 8:05 pm

    From Grassfire noted below. Yesterday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) introduced the liberals' plan to restrict your Second Amendment rights. In addition to limiting handgun magazine capacities to just seven rounds, Feinstein and her leftist allies have identified more than 150 firearms they want to keep out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. But, as usual, there's a twist. The Washington Times reports that the "sweeping legislation" now before the Senate would EXEMPT "government officials." Sen. Feinstein and liberal Democrats want to legislate away your Second Amendment rights, while refusing to subject themselves to the very law they want to put in place! It's the latest in their "What's good for the goose isn't good enough for the gander" approach to governing, which is simply unacceptable. The U.S. Constitution clearly states: "The right of the people to keep and bears arms shall not be infringed." Yet, Feinstein and the Left are determined to restrict, if not eliminate, your Second Amendment rights. This assault on your constitutional rights is an outrage that must be stopped! Go here to take immediate action: www.grassfire.com/978/petition.asp Grassfire is pushing hard to deliver a 100,000-signature petition to Capitol Hill as soon as Monday afternoon. Our Washington, D.C. contacts are on standby for immediate distribution to House and Senate leaders. Once we reach our delivery threshold, this petition will be released to key members of Congress voicing your support for Second Amendment rights. As to the above dialogues, if you haven't read Animal Farm I suggest you do so and if you haven't googled "How to catch wild pigs?" I suggest you do that also. Like I said before, I have seen history repeating itself as I looked at the ovens and ash graves in Dachau and have listened to dozens of Eastern Europeans who are warning us that we are taking our freedoms for granted and are very foolish not to have learned from the lives and removal of freedoms of others who gave up their rights to bear arms. Who so ever refuses to acknowledge history and the truth it has provided will soon acknowledge the demise of their freedoms. Like it states in Feinsteins legislation "government officials" will be exempt from the legislation, only law abiding citizens will be placed under the laws of suppression they have envisioned for decades upon you all. I read yesterday that several years back, the average IQ of Americans was 100 and today it is 79, well the dumbing down of the last few decades of our children in our public schools is working and Khrushchev told you that we would be destroyed from within. Been watching the truth and viewing history for many years and it has taken decades of living to see clearly now the truth and it has and will set us all free, as long as we have learned to recognize it.

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  • George WashingtonJanuary 25, 2013 - 8:06 pm

    "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."

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  • Thomas JeffersonJanuary 25, 2013 - 8:08 pm

    "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

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  • John AdamsJanuary 25, 2013 - 11:56 pm

    Average IQ in the US is 98. Except maybe in Texas. And the Nazis didn't round up guns.

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  • Judith MathatJanuary 26, 2013 - 9:23 am

    Give up your school systems and give up your guns and you will see that "registration equals confiscation" as history has shown us. Minutiae aside the best thing we can do for our children and theirs is protect their rights and reduce the impact of government regulations and interference in our lives and businesses. The following site (http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm)sets the IQ at 98 but that figure is based on the Gross Domestic Product production and many other factors. The actual finding when reading further into the site will show that American students are way down and even off the list of having the available intelligence to meet the productivity levels of higher producing nations let alone the needs of this country and it is directly related to the demise of the public school system. By the way Nazi's did not do the original round up of weapons they rounded up the citizens that the government took their guns and sent them to the death camps!!

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  • cookie65January 26, 2013 - 10:20 am

    Judith, do you know the difference between the nazi's and nancy pelosi? The nazi's said "you have to get on the train to find out where it is going".

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  • ScottJanuary 26, 2013 - 1:54 pm

    First, a philosophical question. When was the last time you ever heard about a firearm, any firearm, on its own and without the intervention of a human, ever shoot anyone or anything? Never. Which leads to my second point, that it's not the implement that's the problem, it's the behavior of the person using (or misusing) said implement. One of two things occurs; the "problem" of firearm-related violence can generally be traced either a firearm being used in criminal activity, or a firearm is discharged "accidentally" through mishandling. What the admittedly Liberal media ignores is the many, many times (at least in the tens of thousands of times, likely more) that law-abiding citizens use firearms to protect themselves, and that in many cases, the firearms they display never need to be fired; the individual(s) attacking the person flee at the sight of a displayed firearm. This is not to mention the hard fact that increased numbers of laws, up to and including de facto gun bans, not only do not prevent crime, in those areas (i.e. Chicago and Washington D.C. to name just two) have much higher crimes rates than in those areas that have less restrictive laws. Law abiding citizens should not be punished for the acts of a few criminals, the clumsy few who accidentally discharge firearms, or those who are mentally unbalanced.

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  • DKantzJanuary 26, 2013 - 3:57 pm

    Replying to Paddy O'furniture January 25, 2013 - 8:04 pm Key phrase in the 2A most folks miss who argue the points Kantz in trying to argue:"A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state..." It's that darned "free state" thing. If the federal government becomes tyrannical, the state is no longer free. That's when "the people" who are also the "militia" were expected by the authors of the 2A to take arms. ............................................... Sorry, but the "Reply" button in my email notification didn't work. So here's my reply: ............................................... Paddy's (not the only one) missing that the Constitution (Article 2 Sect. 2) designates the President commander in chief of "the militia of the several states, when called into service of the United States". Notice the Constitution (Article 2, Sect. 2) does not discuss the mitia of any one whatever "state"; it reads "militia of the several states ... called into service of the United States."

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 26, 2013 - 4:55 pm

    Dkantz, I hear what you are saying and I've read 2/2. But proper exegesis requires us to attempt to understand the spirit of the Constitution and what the authors intended to be ascertained by its reading. Washington himself would later say, as quoted above (that was me) "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." So with that in mind, the people were to take action and oust the government if it ever attempted "to abuse them". Call it over reactionary or "paranoid" or "anarchist", as many here have, but that's what these men had in mind. Am I misreading Washington?

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  • DKantzJanuary 28, 2013 - 12:13 am

    Replying to Paddy o'furniture's January 26, 2013 4:55 p.m. question to me about the "George Washington" January 25, 2013 8:06 quote included in this thread . ............... The referenced "quote" is deemed a corruption of the 5th paragraph of George Washington's first State of the Union speech to Congress as is detailed in my January 26, 2013 5:25 pm post. ........................ If that quote's what you were relying on when you asked "Am I misreading Washington", then, unfortunately the answer is quite clearly yes. I think the next questions (as I stated) are about the motives of any who would sully the good reputation of Washington, don't you think?

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  • DKantzJanuary 26, 2013 - 5:25 pm

    My reply to “George Washington”’s January 25, 2013 - 8:06 pm post:......................................... Sorry, but the "Reply" button in my email notification didn't work. So here's my reply (which I actually posted about an 2 hours ago -- but I don't see it, so here it is again): ............................................... May I advise that when you provide a quote, you must independently verify its authenticity and freely share those sources of independent verification with those whose attention you seek to engage? Otherwise, you stand a much worse chance to fall victim, as it seems you have here, to some who twist words and garble the meanings of your phrases to suit their own (not necessarily honorable) purposes. Considering that’s apparently what happened by your mis-quoting of “yourself”, the motives of anyone who would sully your good reputation is suspect, don’t you agree? .... .... Following is the actual quote which your post (and some others have) corrupted. …………………. Confirmed at: http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=33357 AND at (5th paragraph): http://www.pbs.org/georgewashington/collection/other_1790jan8.html ------------------- --------------- FROM: (4th in their section 3.1 entitled misattributions) http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Washington ----------------------- from Washington’s First State of the Union speech to Congress, January 7, 1790 purportedly in the Boston Independent Chronicle, January 14, 1790: “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies. The proper establishment of the troops which may be deemed indispensable will be entitled to mature consideration. In the arrangements which may be made respecting it it will be of importance to conciliate the comfortable support of the officers and soldiers with a due regard to economy.”

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  • Carol StoneJanuary 27, 2013 - 6:28 am

    "An armed society is a safe society" ? This is unbelievable. I will remember it at the next election.

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 27, 2013 - 8:49 am

    Carol, I hope you do remember it in the next election, provided you understand it, that is. "Society" refers mostly to law abiding folk, to the majority. If you have an understanding that there will always be guns in the hands of criminals at the very least, then to also have guns in the hands of law abiding citizens will make society as a whole safer. Why have you chosen this county to live in rather than a city like Oakland or Chicago or Detroit? At least in part because it's a safer place to live, correct? One of the primary reasons for that is because there is a larger percentage of responsible citizens who are armed. The ratio here of good guys versus bad guys with guns is tipped in favor of the good guys. Oakland and Detroit is just the opposite. Do you see the correlation? **One of my CAPTCHA words is "Doubtful". Hmmm**

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  • Paddy O'furnitureJanuary 27, 2013 - 2:13 pm

    The list of Sheriffs who have done what ours has is nearing 200. 17 of which are here in liberal CA. And it keeps growing. http://constitutionclub.ning.com/forum/topics/county-sheriff-s-honor-roll

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  • Jeff-PlacervilleJanuary 27, 2013 - 9:23 pm

    Like many statistics you rednecks quote from the NRA or from what ever BS right wing site you get your information from. I would guess your round number of 200 is BS also. Out of almost 18,000 thousand, LET ME SAY IT AGAIN A LITTLE SLOWER, OUT OF 18,000 CHEIFS AND SHERIFFS NATION WIDE you quote a round number of 200 as being against gun control in any form and you seem to be proud of it. What an embarrassment. You just don’t get it you red neck tea party dummies; you’re an embarrassment to the people of El Dorado County, to the Republican Party and to our Nation. Don’t you get it, every gun you buy for ten times its worth the 99 billion dollar annually gun industry keeps getting richer and richer, how stupid can you be, its a sales pitch, there’s no army on the other side of the mountain ready to kick your door down, know one wants to kick your door down, its a sales pitch stupid…….

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Essentials

Crime Log: April 1-3

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Weather stats 4-22-14

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Building permits 4/7-11/2014

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Obituaries

Harry Frank Harper

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Marion “Wayne” Griswold

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Bobby Lloyd Bridges

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Real Estate

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Comics

Tundra

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Horoscope, Thursday, April 24, 2014

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Horoscope, Wednesday, April 23, 2014

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Working It Out

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TV Listings

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Shoe

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Sudoku

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Rubes

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New York Times Crossword

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Flying McCoys

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Speed Bump

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