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Five arrests were made when search warrants were served on April 4 centered around the sale of marijuana at two businesses.

The three-month investigation into a conspiracy to sell marijuana looked at River City Wellness, also known as Right Choice Wellness, in Cameron Park and C4C Wellness in Shingle Springs. Both were operated by David Sisson, 45, of El Dorado, his wife Stacy, 44, and his 34-year-0ld brother Robert Sisson of Shingle Springs. A press release from Michael J. Wise of the Wise Law Group, stated that Right Choice Wellness is “a holistic wellness center providing multiple holistic services to their patients in addition to filling legal cannabis recommendations.” Search warrants were also served to the business operator’s home and two bank accounts.

David Sisson was arrested and booked into the county jail on charges of conspiracy to sell marijuana, possession of marijuana for sale and for being a felon in possession of a firearm. His wife was booked on suspicion of conspiracy to possess marijuana for sale. Robert Sisson was booked for alleged conspiracy to sell marijuana and possession of marijuana for sale. Matthew Wollman, 29, of Sacramento, an employee of the business, was arrested and booked for alleged possession of a concealed weapon in a vehicle while employee Austin Lange, 26, of Cameron Park, was booked on a charge of conspiracy to sell marijuana.

James Dungan, 50, of Santa Cruz, approached one of the businesses while detectives were serving the warrants. He allegedly intended to sell processed marijuana to the business and was arrested on the spot by detectives for alleged possession of marijuana for sale.

About 60 pounds of processed marijuana was seized from the businesses during the service of the warrants. Nine firearms and about $80,000 in currency was seized, with more seizures expected.

“The Sisson family is devastated by the allegations that their conduct was criminal in nature. We are confident that when the entire story of this nonprofit cooperative is explained that law enforcement and the greater community will understand that Right Choice Wellness and Dave and Stacy Sisson were in compliance with all applicable local ordinances and state laws,” Wise’s press release stated. “As California struggles to define and clarify the law regarding legitimate cannabis use it is likely that these misconceptions will persist. David and Stacy Sisson are compassionate, hardworking people who have provided a great service to their members and patients in El Dorado County.”

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  • BRApril 07, 2013 - 6:26 pm

    Does this mean that these places are shut down? I hope so. One less pot shop in CP. Thank you.

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  • Mind your own businessApril 07, 2013 - 9:29 pm

    Like it makes any difference to anyone if there's one less pot shop in cameron park. Because marijuana is such a dangerous and addictive drug. Moron. People acting like they know what they're talking about when they have no idea is disgusting. Marijuana helps a lot of people with serious physically disabling disorders feel better. Can't help with your idiocy though so it's worthless for you I suppose.

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  • RON GILLIHANApril 08, 2013 - 2:06 am

    THERE MUST BE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING? THERE MUST BE SOME KIND OF MISTAKE? THE "SISSON" FAMILY ARE BEAUTIFUL AND, WARM PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THE TRUE MEANING OF THE WORD "COMPASSION"! ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT THEY PROVIDE AT "RIVER CITY WELLNESS"! I AM VERY HANDICAPPED AND, NEED MY MEDS! I GET MASSAGE TREATMENTS FOR MY VERY BAD BACK! I HAVE FOUR DOCTORS! ALL OF THEM SAY, NO DRINKING! BUT, YOU CAN DO CANNABIS, ALL YOU WANT! SO, I GOT A RECOMENDATION FROM A REPUTABLE DOCTOR AND, AS PROVIDED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIAS [VOTED] PROP. 215... I HAVE THE RIGHT TO A "CLEAN", "AFFORDIBLE" AND, "FRIENDLY" PLACE TO MAKE MY DONATIONS! I JUST WANT TO FEEL SAFE WHILE GETTING MY MEDS! I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TREATED WITH RESPECT AND, LOVE! PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE THESE PEOPLE UNLESS YOU SHALL BE JUDGED YOUR SELF! LET IT BE KNOWN THAT, I PERSONALLY DO NOT CONDONE THE UNRIGHTFUL OR, ILLEGAL USE OF THE STATES MEDICAL CANNABIS LAW! BUT, FOR THE MILLIONS THAT USE IT FOR, TRUE MEDICAL REASONS... IT IS.. AND, ALWAYS WILL BE.. A MIRACLE DRUG!

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  • 1036-FrankApril 08, 2013 - 7:44 am

    These store front dope sellers are bad news and violate federal and state law as in conspiracy to sell dope. Here we have an armed felon conducting a distribution ring and large amounts of money, guns and dope were found as a result. This happens wherever these dope shops are. For those who need to use dope buy it in a pill form and save everyone else the trouble of dealing with it and smelling it as it is a crime and felon magnet that people have had enough of.

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  • DarrinApril 08, 2013 - 8:30 am

    For first time, majority of Americans back legal pot By Rob Hotakainen Thursday, Apr. 4, 2013 http://bit.ly/Y8jLSX

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  • oh brotherApril 08, 2013 - 9:01 am

    Wish the justice system put as much energy into the drunks at the bars, the meth labs, the heroin and pill trafficking. Oh that's right, those people are freaking scary to deal with. Nothing like a drunk, pill poppin, meth snortin person to arrest. Tons of that in this county, take that on law enforcement and then I will be happy.

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  • PetersonApril 08, 2013 - 10:11 am

    The media is trashing these people and have no clue what's really going on! I know these people personally and they are NOT criminals! They have helped so many in this community from cancer patients to toys for tots, to feeding the hungry, providing FREE wellness services to patients , and even giving out of their own pocket if someone it in need! All of you judge marijuana but take your Vicodin and xanax and drink alcohol and are killing yourselves everyday!! But someone finds a healthier alternative for all diseases and chronic pain and people have the nerve to say its bad! Go drink your stupid delves stupid cause your not doing anyone any good. And it's not "dope" grow out of the 60s dude dope it meth and THAT is the really problem! People kill themselves and each other everyday over pills liquor and meth but who have u ever seen od or hurt anyone on pot??! Ppl r soo ignorant it makes me sick! I'll do anything I can to advocate for the wonderful sisson family. We're so devastated these wonderful people are being treated thi was by our disgusting sheriffs dept and our community!!:(

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 10:36 am

    Taking it to the UN...http://www.sacbee.com/2013/03/08/5247776/ex-world-leaders-time-for-us-to.html We are moving towards a global society--marijuana is not the problem. Washington will start seeing money--big money being made...legally. The first in on "farms" will make fortunes. These legal sellers--will put medicinal stores--out of business (where people have invested money) A friend of mine told me that the food industry is looking at the fancier restaurants allowing "weed" in--because in will enhance the "food" experience... a little bit of wine--a little bit of weed, and an expensive dining experience. Lots of money to be made. And not by the drug dealers...just everyday people. Interesting--we will just have to watch it unfold. Follow the money. How much money did the tobacco companies make in their prime? The millennials (19-30)accept marijuana. Right now life is guided by them. Next will be their children. "They may be young. They may lack CEO status. But as Blockbuster, Kodak, and Blackberry have discovered, millennials' collective preferences can make or break a business."

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  • 1036-FrankApril 08, 2013 - 11:02 am

    Of course smoking dope is good for you, makes you smart and healthy. For all of you who know it all and are 20-something and have your dope cards and welfare checks and SSI crazy checks, you prove it everyday why it should be illegal under federal law permanently. If people need this dope, take a cannabis pill from a legit source. When an armed felon is selling store-front dope, people are driving here from out of the area and selling him dope, and there are cash and guns, it is a state/federal crime, pure and simple and most want it out of our county, including the drug cartel dope growers who are another menace.

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  • RichardApril 08, 2013 - 11:46 am

    As I understand this: The Sheriff starts an investigation at the height of being criticized for his letter to the Vice President about gun control, which smacked of political posturing, to take down a “holistic wellness center providing multiple holistic services to their patients in addition to filling legal cannabis recommendations.” Sizing from two business locations their inventory of about 30 pounds each of processed marijuana , nine firearms, which is not uncommon in a home/business in El Dorado County and I would bet are legally registered, and $80,000 in currency from both business and personal bank accounts. The dramatic photo which seems to mimic photos taken by agencies that have gone up against some real bad guys and been successful, speaks for it self. I bet if old Judge Fogerty were still alive he would say something like, that was really stupid and the court costs are coming out of your budget, Sheriff.

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  • robertdnollApril 08, 2013 - 11:50 am

    peterson,wow

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  • laraApril 08, 2013 - 11:57 am

    how about this? how about people stop forcing their moral opinions on others? if you don't like it don't do it. ps 1036-Frank, pills never solved anything. you are deep in the pockets of drug companies, right where they like you to be.

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  • ???April 08, 2013 - 12:06 pm

    Having been thru two rounds of chemotherapy treatment I can testify that nothing on this planet will destroy your desire to eat more than some of the chemo drugs. Having lived on Ensure and barely able to stomach it, is not fun. Only one thing caused me to have an appetite. It didn't require daily use and it was beneficial for exactly what I needed it for. So I couldn't care less what the federal government says about it. But anyone who claims it does anything for pain is a liar. I heard an old friend say something I will always remember, "there is a problem when an 18 year old kid gets a permit to grow 99 plants because of a bunyan on his foot."

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  • Not A DopeApril 08, 2013 - 12:21 pm

    Yes, because all that cash and those guns look like this was a sweet little non profit organization. Felon in possession of a firearm is a crime last time I checked. Non profits also don't usually have 80k in stacks of cash on hand last time I Checked either. That's money laundering and hiding PROFIT pure and simple. The rest of the dispensaries around are in for their turn too. A bunch of low life, scumbags using the guise of compassion to make a buck. Can't wait to see the rest of El Dorado County's pot peddling losers tossed In a cell. Compassion is free, and ill I see here is $$$$$$$. Get real jobs bums.

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  • PetersonApril 08, 2013 - 2:19 pm

    Hey "not a dope" your a dope.... Ive never been on welfare, I have a great job, and look out!... I'm even in college! And so are many other mm patients, so how nice of you to judge so blindly. I don't don't even need to say anymore you totally proved how disgustingly ignorant you are...oh and everyone has a gun in this county, and the article never said they weren't registered or if they got them at the other residences they served warrants too. Don't buy into all the bs the media tried to sell you, unless you enjoy being their drone.

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  • 1036-FrankApril 08, 2013 - 12:41 pm

    What is funny is we have an armed felon selling dope in a store front and it is the Sheriff who is being questioned by an angry liberal who was previously demanding strict new gun controls on law abiding citizens. This felon was very well armed with what will be found to be "black market" guns usually from home burglaries or straw buyers who should be arrested for providing guns to a felon. I have said these armed felons need life sentences, here is a great example of trouble waiting to happen. If this store-front dope selling scam is so safe and it is for "wellness" why all the heavy armament?? Might it be the class of people involved are dangerous and of a criminal element and attract a criminal element.

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  • red white and blackandblueApril 08, 2013 - 12:48 pm

    How is this a free country if the government can tell me what I can put in my own body? Can anyone tell me?

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  • red white and blackandblueApril 08, 2013 - 12:54 pm

    Hey Frank. You seem to know what is best for the rest of us. Tell us, are you overweight? Do you drink alcohol? Smoke? Are you on a variety of medications and/or narcotics? Eat processed food? The entities that control these substances are the biggest and scariest cartels of all, because YOUR generation has allowed them to proliferate, profit and prosper.

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 08, 2013 - 1:08 pm

    I see a great deal of similarity between the period after the repeal of prohibition of alcohol and this slow motion repeal of prohibition against pot. The transition will be painful and punctuated by strong (and a bit irrational) feelings on both sides.

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  • RichardApril 08, 2013 - 1:11 pm

    "David Sisson was arrested and booked into the county jail on charges of conspiracy to sell marijuana, possession of marijuana for sale and for being a felon in possession of a firearm." I must agree, felon with a gun, he goes, if the weapon was in his possession.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 1:12 pm

    "A majority of American adults think marijuana should be legalized, a poll released Thursday by the Pew Research Center finds. While 52 percent were pro-pot legalization, 45 percent of respondents were opposed to legalization." "Sixty-five percent of adults between the ages of 18 and 32 support marijuana legalization, Pew said. Just five years ago the polling company found that 36 percent of voters in that age group supported legalization."http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/04/04/marijuana-legalization-supported-by-majority-in-us-poll-finds waste of money to fight it--we should finalized the rules already.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 1:14 pm

    Marijuana Business Rules Debated in Colorado, Washington. http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/03/22/marijuana-legalization-stores-colorado-washington?s_cid=related-links:TOP

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  • 1036-FrankApril 08, 2013 - 1:18 pm

    Sure, tell all the corporations and tobacco companies what they can do because until they are controlled by some new liberal crackdown, they are as dangerous as millions on dope taking Govt. welfare, never working or paying taxes with a Legit job and driving cars under the influence of dope. Dope is called dope for a good reason, it is worthless to 99% of people and the rest should use it in a pill or liquid without the THC in it if it is a legit need, smoking dope has no benefit except lung cancer which everyone has to pay for in health care costs. There are enough legal vices out there now. An armed felon selling dope should be an automatic life sentence.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 1:19 pm

    http://www.usnews.com/photos/marijuana-through-the-years

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 1:30 pm

    Dope People who do not do drugs call Marajuanna Dope.People who do Marajuanna call Heroin Dope. Word has also been used to describe how good something is. Frank --I dont smoke anything myself--but I have many friends who have had to for medical reasons--many who have moved on--but were allowed to move on with some dignity. People will make money legally off this crop. And their are so many bigger issues.

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  • 1036-FrankApril 08, 2013 - 2:12 pm

    I use the term "dope" to mean a very dim-witted person that inhales a toxic smoke into their system to get high. This stuff, cannabis, is something I have a little experience with, I have run into some grows back in the outback and have dealt with outlaw growers more then a few times in my travels and it is a danger and menace to anyone who owns or has access to large areas of rural private property or anyone who uses public lands. There has also been the people who grow it and don't realize the smell of a 100 skunks is annoying to anyone. Then there is the black-market aspects, the facts are that many felons on parole usually end up in the business of selling dope and possessing guns at the same time, then there is the influx of dangerous drug cartels growing it while armed and illegally in the country. I wish cannabis could be like a winery for example and respectable with legit farms and product and taxes paid, but it went the other way into the lawless outlaw world of black market and dangerous elements and it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. Store-front dope shops are on the way out for good reasons.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 2:39 pm

    If a person has a legitimate need for medical marijuana then why can't a licensed doctor prescribe it and make it available at any licensed pharmacy or hospital, just like any other prescribed medication? These marijuana specialty shops and the crime that surrounds them need to be eliminated.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 2:43 pm

    Frank.... I wish cannabis could be like a winery for example and respectable with legit farms and product and taxes paid...these are your words--and they echo what I think--make it legal have legit farms and move on. Someone must have learned something from prohibition. It is scary when you and I meet in a middle ground.

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  • RHApril 08, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    ONE LESS POT SHOP!!?? REALLY?? How about one less bar, one less meth house, and a whole lot less unnecessary narcotics being used! It's kinda funny that no one wanted to publicly trash this family until the media put bad thoughts into people's heads for them. Me along with several friends have gotten to know this family over the last year and a half and they have been nothing but thoughtful and caring to my family my friends and myself. Thanks to Stacy's amazing yoga teachings I have gained twice as much mobility into my injured leg then I had before. Forget if you support medical marijuana or not, this is a family running a business and do not deserve what is happening to them. Get to know the people and the situation before you judge!!! I have met amazing women fighting breast cancer, retired soilders dealing with PTSD, and kids working a legit job to pay their way through school. None of these people deserved to loose access to their medication and the Sisson family does NOT deserve the pain and torment this is causing all of them! My prayers are with everyone involved!

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    DB I think the regular doctor cant prescibe weed because it is an herb or a plant...like they do not prescribe willow bark for headaches--although that is in aspirin. Could be wrong...I think with the natural product they can not.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 2:51 pm

    http://www.dfaf.org/content/don%E2%80%99t-doctors-prescribe-marijuana Don’t doctors prescribe marijuana? No. Doctors cannot prescribe a non-FDA approved substance; in medical excuse marijuana states only, they can recommend it. The FDA issued a statement against the use of smoked marijuana in 2006, and the Institute of Medicine study from 1999 found that marijuana should be researched but not used as a medicine in its raw form. Doctors are not covered by insurance for recommending a non-FDA approved drug, and there is an undetermined impact on a patient’s right to sue for malpractice. Although many support cannabinoid research, most of the major medical associations in the US are against the use of smoked or raw marijuana.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 2:55 pm

    DB...so it is an FDA issue. I use peppermint oil at times for an on coming headache--it works for me--it is not FDA approved so it is not recognized. The FDA has many things it is still looking into--that may be okay for Europe already. No answer passed that.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 2:58 pm

    frances...Obummer should of had this one covered in his ObamaCare package. Free pot for the masses would certainly gain some more votes.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 3:04 pm

    frances...earlier Frank had mentioned a cannabis pill. I think I remember seeing a program where legit medical cannabis pills were prescribed.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 3:06 pm

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2012/12/07/legalizing-marijuana-washington-is-as-confused-as-europe/ Legalizing Marijuana: Washington Is As Confused as Europe (Forbes has an article on everything--money is always watching)

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 3:18 pm

    All of this does not take away from this arrest--if they have documents--it was legal. I voted for medical marijuana in California. (im still waiting for it to become legal) Actually I voted for several things that I voted on--that passed... There are so many other more important issues to fix--so many crimes unattended. I support our sheriff with the gun issues big time...this? no. DB I have to take vitamin B shots twice a month--pills do not work in my body (believe me I asked--hate needles) maybe fresh works better for some--dont know. One of my friends said mixing it in food helped them--another said smoking it. And yet another said taking the pill worked. No answers. But if we read about prohibition---legalizing alcohol--removed some of the violence of guns

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 3:26 pm

    DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 3:04 pm frances...earlier Frank had mentioned a cannabis pill. I think I remember seeing a program where legit medical cannabis pills were prescribed....yes DB the pills are FDA approved

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  • red white and blackandblueApril 08, 2013 - 3:45 pm

    People get high on pot because it feels good. Relaxes the mind and takes you from reality for a few hours. Like a cold beer or two. Like a bottle of good wine. And unlike alcohol it stimulates creativity, empathy and community. I cannot understand people like Frank. I really cant. I am in my 40s and half of my good friends smoke a little from time to time. I am talking about doctors, businessmen, engineers, vets, government employees. It is HIGH time we end the war on pot.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 4:02 pm

    Red, White and Blue, If you ended the war on pot how many of our youth do you think would be planting in the backyards and woods? How many of our youth would be running around stoned so they could escape from reality and become creative? How many of our youth would graduate from marijuana to more powerful stimulates?

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 08, 2013 - 4:07 pm

    DB -- How many kids...? The same kids that currently do that with tobacco and liquor.

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  • red white and blackandblueApril 08, 2013 - 4:11 pm

    DB- I guess the same number of kids that try booze, or cigarettes, or sex. We have 3 kids. I can tell you, it is ALL about parenting. Government cannot make laws to protect society from itself. You raise your kids the best you can. Then set em free. There will always be a certain type of person that cannot handle chemical substances. It is genetic. Sucks for them, but for the rest of us, no one has the right to tell me what is best for me. You seem worried about exposing our youth to the dangers of Pot, so I assume you advocate condoms and sex ed in the schools to prevent disease and teen pregnancy?

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  • red white and blackandblueApril 08, 2013 - 4:15 pm

    And another thing...how can conservative republicans scream and shout about our liberties and freedoms being taken away, then see no problem imposing their puritanical views on the rest of us? That is why the GOP is on life support; rampant hypocrisy.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 4:18 pm

    Kirk, if marijuana was readily available in every backyard of the country then I do believe there would be MANY more than currently. I don't know of any beer, wine or cigarette trees growing around backyards.

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  • red white and blackandblueApril 08, 2013 - 4:41 pm

    DB-Dude! Pot is ALREADY readably available to kids. So is booze. And huffing spray paint cans. I first raided Dad's liquor cabinet at age 12. Kids are gonna experiment no matter what we do. Should we ban cars? I know a few kids that died by mixing drinking and driving. I do not know a single person that has died smoking pot and driving.

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 08, 2013 - 4:41 pm

    DB -- what makes you think there would be pot plants in every yard in the nation? That is not the case in countries and our states that have decriminalized pot. Pot is just as hard to grow as tobacco, and harder to produce than alcohol. The only reason you don't see tobacco and alcohol trees in every back yard is because it is so easy to buy at most any store. Personally, I think pot should not go the commercial route of tobacco and alcohol.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 4:48 pm

    Because it's readily available to kids is a problem so why add to to problem? Toke on red white and blue.

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  • red white and blackandblueApril 08, 2013 - 4:50 pm

    What heck are YOU people smokin? Top 10 causes of death in the US: •Heart disease: 597,689 •Cancer: 574,743 •Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 138,080 •Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 129,476 •Accidents (unintentional injuries): 120,859 •Alzheimer's disease: 83,494 •Diabetes: 69,071 •Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,476 •Influenza and Pneumonia: 50,097 •Intentional self-harm (suicide): 38,364

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 4:55 pm

    Kirk, pot is not harder to grow than a tobacco plant or harder to produce than alcohol. Just ask and illegal democrat immigrant.

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 08, 2013 - 4:58 pm

    DB -- you are making the argument for prohibition against tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, etc. Treat like things the same. Don't arbitrarily outlaw some of them and not others. In my opinion, it is good that tobacco and alcohol laws are tightening, just as it is good that pot laws are loosening.

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  • 1036-FrankApril 08, 2013 - 5:00 pm

    There is always the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, there is driving 65-70 and going 100 which could get you arrested. The same applies here, if a person who is 21 or older grows a plant or two and uses it, doesn't drive afterwards, isn't an armed felon, isn't selling it and making a lot of tax free money, isn't inviting criminals into the county, not too many care one way or the other. But having no guard rails on a federally illegal drug leads to many bad consequences. There is a cannabis pill for sick people to take without THC in it which would seem to be the best way to avoid lung cancer for sick people who have a serious illness. What people find angering is all of these young people with their pot cards and their invented "Illnesses" they need to get a life, a job, and pay taxes because soon there won't be anyone left paying taxes.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 5:03 pm

    Kirk, tobacco and alcohol are legal for adults and pot is not, unless you have a medical OK. I like to play by the rules and that the way it is for now. I don't want to see any kid using tobacco, alcohol or pot!

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  • babybirthinrnApril 08, 2013 - 5:14 pm

    I'm not going to address the charges for this specific case but rather the overall ignorance relative to cannabis. I won't cite statistics, you can do the research. In general, by comparison, the damage alcohol causes far surpasses any damage by cannabis use alone. ie: major body organ damage, motor vehicle fatalities, domestic violence, sexual assault, and other violent crimes. I agree with other comments here, this county has bigger problems that need to be addressed, specifically, meth labs and heroin. What are the typical drugs of choice for those involved in criminal activity? I am a highly educated professional in the medical field. I enjoy cannabis for personal reasons. I don't use it when I'm working(or before). Just as I wouldn't drink alcohol on the job. How many people take opiates for back pain while at work? May I suggest, before we judge, we educate ourselves. And on a lighter note, some of us who are narrow minded and uptight, might just benefit from a little cannabis, if you know what I mean. PEACE --OUT.

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  • cookie65April 08, 2013 - 5:18 pm

    I am enjoying some of the back and forth of this discussion. I grew up in El Dorado county and I can assure you there has never been a shortage of pot. There are families who have been growing it here for 40 years. Pot and El Dorado county are not strangers. The dispensaries would be less objectionable if 80% of their customers actually had a medical need. Everybody posting here knows someone who smokes pot whether you know it or not.

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 08, 2013 - 5:20 pm

    DB -- Arbitrary laws are unenforceable. Worse, they create a lucrative black market (attracting criminals like Al Capone), and teaches kids that grownups (parents, law enforcement) are lying to them (pot is just as bad as heroin). Did you go through the DARE program?

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 5:22 pm

    Baby, so lets educate. The pot users are pro-pot and try to justify how good it is for you vs. other stimulates. OK then how about the cocaine or meth user that's still able to function quite handily? Should we loosen the laws on those drugs? Where does it end? Does it end after you get what you want? Little by little we are more tolerant and seem to get deeper and deeper. Just please don't smoke that blunt before you drive or perform surgery.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 5:52 pm

    I dont do pot--I dont smoke anything...but my family did "martini time"--they were the Middle Class Americans--and they drove to the store in sometimes scary conditions. The pot smokers I knew that smoked for medical reason--couldnt drive any where--they were dying. I feel alcohol and pot are the lesser of drug evils. I know from getting my knees replaced--that there are some scary drugs out there. I cant imagine that some of the things given to me for pain are out on the "party" circuit. but they are--prescription drugs are dangerous--more so than weed. Medicinal weed passed in California--wasting money on wellness centers doesnt make sense.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 6:04 pm

    DB...or drink that cocktail. Just saying. The point is California voted for legal weed. That is why we vote--to come to a conclusion. You and I may not agree on the vote--but it passed.

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  • 1036-FrankApril 08, 2013 - 6:05 pm

    This "Wellness Center" was a scam as all of them are. It was harboring a heavily armed felon, untaxed cash, and arriving criminals under the guise of "Wellness" this kind of scam makes every one sick.

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 6:07 pm

    That was my point frances but I muddled it up quite a bit. We went from medical to recreational use. Anyone that benefits from the use of medical marijuana should be allowed to do so in any form that works for them and they should be able to get it from their local pharmacy or hospital. The rest that want to use it for recreation use will just have to do so under cover for now. It bothers me to see the youth get wrapped up in all this. As you say...the prescribed drugs they are giving our kids are bad enough.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 6:11 pm

    We voted "yes"...18 Legal Medical Marijuana States and DC Laws, Fees, and Possession Limits. http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000881 I havent liked many laws in calif. or politicians for that matter--but I vote. And if I dfont win--I just wait until its time to vote again. However california has not been real good at honoring what people have voted for lately...see to me--that is a problem.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 6:20 pm

    DB read the link I posted--good site...gives pros and cons of many issues.

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  • PetersonApril 08, 2013 - 6:50 pm

    Any of u yogis or anyone else who knows the Sissons I'm trying to get ppl together to stand up for who these ppl really are! Anyone willing to write letters or speak on their behalf Plz contact me @ godessprincess@yahoo.com. Let's get together and help the people who helped us!! Screw all these ppl with bad things to say we know who they are and know this is all lies!! Let's stand up for what we believe in and give back the love!!

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  • RHApril 08, 2013 - 7:00 pm

    Hey everyone! This comment is not to start any argument I would just like to ask ANYONE who first and foremost know the Sisson family and would like to show compassion and support for the situation they are in and second show support for the service they provided to this community please reach out, write letters and show your support for these awesome compassionate people! I have a small group of friends started to write letters in support of not only River City and C4C but also people who have gotten to know the family and know that these are not hardened criminals but productive members of society who saw a need and filled it! Thank you everyone for your support!

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  • babybirthinrnApril 08, 2013 - 7:20 pm

    Uh, DB, marijuana is not a stimulant, FYI. And of course I use it responsibly, just like I do alcohol. Geez. Idiot.

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  • PetersonApril 08, 2013 - 7:26 pm

    Sorry everyone its godessprincess44@yahoo.com I left out the 44. Anyways Plz contact me!!!

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  • babybirthinrnApril 08, 2013 - 7:26 pm

    Uh, maybe we need to have prescriptions for alcohol? Just sayin. C'mon people, get a grip. It's non issue. Philip Morris already is growing it. Just legalize it and spend my hard earned tax dollars on some other non worthwhile expenditure.

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  • cookie65April 08, 2013 - 8:04 pm

    Reading some of these comments caused me to have a flashback. LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbpChEEQsbk

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  • DB SmithApril 08, 2013 - 8:14 pm

    Baby, red, white and blue told me it stimulates creativity, empathy and community...so which one of you are the idiot?

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  • Ken SteersApril 08, 2013 - 9:01 pm

    A few elephants in the room that I would like to point out. Does anyone really believe that this group was selling only pharmaceutical marijuana to real medical patients? If society wishes to sell marijuana for recreational use then why hide behind non-profit status? Shouldn't the free trade of a recreational drug then be taxed the same as say a soda? How if this is a non-taxed business, is our societies infra structure, i.e. police, fire, roads and jails, to pay for the increase of crime from undesirable activities? RedHawk Casino is a tax free business but still helps pay for the added burden to our county. If you truly believe that establishments such as these do not manifest undesirable behavior then why the need for armed felons and concealed weapons at the establishments? In 1979 I wrote a paper in supporting the legalization and taxation of marijuana. Why is there such a negative push back from those using it that claim non-profit status?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 08, 2013 - 10:33 pm

    Ken-I voted to To make it legal or lawful; to authorize it or sanction by law. I say make it all into cigarettes and tax it. I do not see a difference between alcohol and weed. (Although people with illnesses have said weed helps them. Does alcohol have the same claim?)Put an age limit on it--but get past it. Didnt we legalize medical weed in 1996. If it becomes as legal as tobacco and alcohol--the big bad drug people wont bother with it. And the new crop will make some business people tons of money. I am not sure about the guns--but I have learned many people have them up here. My own grandfather, when he was alive--had ten different guns...maybe more. I know a few older ladies that have rifles in their living rooms and hand guns by their beds. Talk about the wild west. And as someone said earlier--weed is not new to this county. It could be the new crop for the New Economy. With all the talk about global "love" and peace--im thinking people are smoking or doing something. Seriously...legalize it--tax it and move on.

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  • Walking TallApril 09, 2013 - 6:07 am

    Lots of pros and cons but no education, take the time to view a documentary produced by KCRA intitled "Gateway Drug". Look at the real facts and then factor in that Growing/selling/giving away or otherwise providing Marijuana is illegal. Then factor in convicted felon in possession of firearms and the cash siezed, all illegal, prop 215 was passed for those truly in need but has not ever seen the rules followed. The "Pot Shops" became a quick way to make money under the guise of compassion, and are still illegal in our Federal Laws. Leagal means legal in all ways not just state laws, we always see these shops pushing the legal law beyond it's limits. Ask any pot smoke how they got started and you will find it was through the "Gateway Drug Process". Example from cigaretts to alcohol to MJ to meth to herion to PCP to LSD and death, of course there are those who only smoke pot and just started one day but very few. The medical use is assuming that MJ is a cure which just isn't the truth, it masks the pain and as reported here "takes you away from it and the "High" helps those in pain. All too often we see those who supply MJ as being the great people who don't commit crimes however why the need for guns, felons and the outside the law activity. Mj has nine times the cancer causing agents in it than cigaretts and second hand smoke and high do occur in it's use. Mj or hemp has been around for decades and so has peyote smoked in peace pipes however they all cause an out of body result and do lead to other illegal drug use. Just as many impared drivers have been arrested for being under the influence of MJ as alcohol and deaths have resulted, making it legal won't stop or lessen it's impact. Alcohol is leagal and look at the number of deaths/injuries associated with it's use. so it's not the answer. The real truth we all seek is that if a law is passed (Prop 215) then comply and don't step outside it's boundries, don't push the limits, don't arm yourself associated to illegal activity. The reason we have/pass laws is so that there are controls and those who play by the rules are allowed the use of the law. Step outside the law and you must expect to face the charges that accompany the violation, we all know "if you can't do the time don't do the crime". Thes people arrested will have their day in court and are innocent until proven, however it is the violation that we should concern ourselves with not if MJ is good for you and if it has any redeming medical value. The people involve have to answer the question of "did they follow the law and was it legal" in regards to their arrest. To repeat view "The Gateway Drug" and become informed as to where it starts and how we can avoid the pitfalls of substance abuse and find what use if any MJ has and how to manage it legally.

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  • cookie65April 09, 2013 - 8:45 am

    I don’t have an answer to this debate nor do I have a preferred outcome. I know people on both sides. People who I have known my entire life. What I do have that I haven’t read much of here is information. These dispensaries are not exclusive to those who can benefit medically from pot. The majority of their customers just like to get high. The growers who have made their livelihood dependent on their annual crop are not fans of the dispensaries because they only pay $1,000 for a pound and turn around and sell it for as much as $45 for 1/8 ounce. That is a turnaround of $5,760, which is not about compassion it is about profit. Nearly 600% non-profit, profit. I couldn’t care less if someone smokes pot, it is the tweekers that are an endless source of criminal behavior. I have known people who developed paranoid schizophrenia from pot because they had a propensity for it and the pot triggered it. I also know that if you have a problem with someone who is undergoing chemotherapy for cancer using pot in order to be able to eat there is something seriously wrong with you. We have an ongoing problem with criminal illegals using our national forest lands for their crops and polluting the streams and rivers with the chemicals they use. Not to mention being a major safety threat to the rest of us who enter the forest. The current situation with legal/illegal pot has created a grey market that no one seems to know what to do with. For those of you who wish to keep the stuff away from kids, I totally agree, I always considered it to me my job to teach my kids about drugs. There has always been an underground economy where pot is concerned. There always will be. Believe it or not some people get wired smoking pot. Don’t believe everything you see in the movies. I don’t think it is a coincidence that my kids don’t do drugs, I think it is because I never treated the subject as taboo like many people do. We have a lack of honesty and information in this discussion. I know some very high achievers, pun intended. And I know some complete burnouts. The question people need to ask themselves is what would you like to see the outcome be? Should those who benefit medically have access to it without having to hide in some back alley? Should those who enjoy it the same way someone enjoys a glass of wine or a cold beer be able to? I don’t know the first thing about the people in this story, I do know it is illegal for felons to have guns and I know and most people running a legitimate business don’t have $80,000 in cash laying around. Some people here take the position that lots of people depend on these people for their medical pot, but they have to do it legally.

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  • DB SmithApril 09, 2013 - 9:35 am

    My position on these so called medical pot shops is that we should not have them. We don't have specialty medical shops on street corners for Vicodin, Morphine, Valium, etc.. When these things are medically needed then we go to the doctor, get a prescription and pick it up from the hospital or pharmacy in a controlled atmosphere. In my opinion, Marijuana should fall into this category. The way it's being presented now through these shops gets the people that need it medically, entangled into the criminal element. They don't deserve that! I'm sure alcohol, cigarettes and many prescribed drugs can be far worse than marijuana depending on who and how it's used. What really bothers me is the medical facade that is used by the pot shops and the recreational user taking advantage of it by complaining of aches and pains to a street corner doctor until they get a card. The word pot is pretty much used in a general term but can cover a variety of strengths, effects and additional additives. If a responsible adult wants to indulge in it then so be it, but it is already too available to the youth and that is my concern along with those that medically need it. The youth are already bombarded with peer pressure, alcohol, cigarettes, prescribed drugs, etc.. The last thing I want to see a pot shop with all the paraphernalia on the street corner that teenagers walk by on the way to school or to go shopping.

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  • MidnightApril 09, 2013 - 9:53 am

    Man, you Teaparty people have let me down again. Dam hypocrites at the highest level. You say you want the gov out of your life and personal decisions, yet here you are condoning exactly what you don’t want for yourselves. If you were true to your messege you would be screaming from the tallest mountain to get the f out of our lives. But no, again, your talking out of both sides of your mouths. This is why everybody knows you are just a bunch of curmudgeons. Furthermore, you want some education? Definition of a drug is: A substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body Coffee does this so, does chocolate and sugar. Should we outlaw these?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 9:54 am

    California voted on it. Marijuana Legalization On The Ballot (LIVE RESULTS)Where Is Medical Marijuana Already Legal?Seventeen states have already legalized medical marijuana for ill patients. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/06/marijuana-legalization-results_n_2074168.html

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  • EvelynApril 09, 2013 - 10:01 am

    "The Top Five Special Interest Groups Lobbying To Keep Marijuana Illegal" HERE: 1.) Police Unions 2.) Private Prisons Corporations 3.) Alcohol and Beer Companies 4.) Pharmaceutical Corporations 5.) Prison Guard Unions

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 10:11 am

    "Was there any evidence for such claims? None; in fact, the American Medical Association argued against marijuana prohibition in the 1930s, citing its therapeutic potential. But the bureau made its case that marijuana was "dangerous for the mind and the body," and the federal government outlawed its use in 1937. It wasn't until the 1970s that a campaign began to restore marijuana's therapeutic reputation, and in 1996 California became the first state to legalize cannabis for medicinal purposes. Psychiatrist Tod Mikuriya, a founding father in the medical marijuana movement, claimed that cannabis has none of the adverse side effects of opiates. "In fact," he said, "it really enhances both quality of life and rehabilitation."" http://theweek.com/article/index/236671/is-marijuana-bad-for-you

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  • oh brotherApril 09, 2013 - 10:12 am

    I just want to know, after listening to my police scanner last night, what are law enforcement going to do about the meth labs, heroin sales, pill sales and drunk driving? A young man (about the 5th this week) is found overdosed in a field in Diamond Springs on heroin. WHAT IS LAW ENFORCEMENT DOING ABOUT THAT????? I get that the pot smokers are an easier bust but we have to get rid of the other crap..IT IS KILLING PEOPLE.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 10:26 am

    Once again--before deciding on this issue...oh bother is right--move on to the drugs that are not legal. At the cusp of an impending Hemp renaissance, the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 - which effectively made the cultivation of hemp illegal - was due largely to the efforts of the following businessmen/entities: Andrew Mellon - As chairman of the Mellon Bank he was Dupont's primary investor and treasurer (1921-1932). He was also responsible for the appointment, in 1930, of his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, as head of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN). William Randolph Hearst - Competition from hemp was a threat to Hearst's paper-manufacturing company, and he believed that hemp's renaissance would also significantly lower the value of his land (enormous timber acreage in both California and Mexico, and best suited for conventional pulp). He used his publishing empire (28 newspapers in 18 key American cities with an estimated 20 million readers) to run stories claiming that marijuana was responsible for everything from murder to loose morality. The DuPont family - In 1935, two years before the prohibitive hemp tax act, DuPont developed a new synthetic fiber, nylon, a direct competitor to hemp in the textile and cordage industries. DuPont was also in the process of patenting a new sulfuric acid process for producing wood-pulp paper. According to the company's own records, wood-pulp products accounted for more than 80% of all DuPont's railroad car loadings for the next 50 years. For their billion dollar dynasties to remain intact, these unconscionable tycoons decided that hemp had to go. Taking an obscure Mexican slang word, “marihuana,” they vehemently tarnished the good image and phenomenal history of one of God's most loving gifts to humanity. Undoubtably, one of their most effective tools was the use of Goebel-esque cinematography - Films like ‘Marihuana: Assassin of Youth’ (1935) ‘Marihuana: The Devil’s Weed’ (1936) and ‘Reefer Madness’ (1936). Using such underhanded tactics, these industrialists were able to swoon an unsuspecting American public into helping them completely kill off the competition. http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?p=2829487

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  • DB SmithApril 09, 2013 - 10:32 am

    Talk about hypocritical. Your pot head Obumbo president held 100 raids on Medical Marijuana Dispensaries during his first 3 years of office. How was that helping you and how is he helping you now? Reefer Madness has taken over the country.

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  • EvelynApril 09, 2013 - 10:42 am

    "Hemp - Could Save America" HERE - 3) Hemp Seed is far more nutritious than even soybean, contains more essential fatty acids than any other source, is second only to soybeans in complete protein (but is more digestible by humans), is high in B-vitamins, and is 35% dietary fiber. Hemp seed is not psychoactive and cannot be used as a drug. 5) According to the Department of Energy, hemp as a biomass fuel producer requires the least specialized growing and processing procedures of all hemp products. The hydrocarbons in hemp can be processed into a wide range of biomass energy sources, from fuel pellets to liquid fuels and gas. Development of biofuels could significantly reduce our consumption of fossil fuels and nuclear power. 6) Hemp grows well without herbicides, fungicides, or pesticides. Almost half of the agricultural chemicals used on US crops are applied to cotton. 7) Hemp produces more pulp per acre than timber on a sustainable basis, and can be used for every quality of paper. Hemp paper manufacturing can reduce wastewater contamination. 10) Eco-friendly hemp can replace most toxic petrochemical products.

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  • MidnightApril 09, 2013 - 10:55 am

    And yet theses drunks and druggies go unpunished!!!! Wallabies in Tasmania have been seen falling around and hopping in circles, apparently high after feeding in local poppy fields Australia, drunken parrott season' in Darwin produces dozens of apparently intoxicated red-collared lorikeets each year Vervet monkeys on the Caribbean island of St Kitts have a long history with alcohol. They once devoured fermented sugar cane grown by the rum industry Reindeer in eastern Europe deliberately forage for, and have been known to fight over, the hallucinogenic and highly toxic Amanita muscaria mushroom Jaguars in the Amazon rainforest sometimes part from their meat-eating ways to gnaw on the bark of the hallucinogenic Yage Bats in Central and South America regularly eat fermenting fruits (with up to 4.5 per cent ethanol)

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  • EvelynApril 09, 2013 - 10:59 am

    VIDEO (14 min): "Hemp for Victory (1943) - USA asks its farmers to grow hemp during WWII" - HERE

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 11:16 am

    great vid Ms Evelyn. Our hemp comes out of china...again fear factor is being used...to stop a really good crop being established once again. This fear factor was used for its prohibition."In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees." -- the U.S. Department of Agriculture Hemp can be used to manufacture all these things (and more): • Shoes • Clothing • Paper • Car parts (such as bumpers) • Houses • Bicycle frames • Cosmetics • Backpacks • Flags • Rope • Food packaging • Omega-3 oil supplements • Protein supplements • Fuel for cars • Boats • Lamps and decorations • Skate boards

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 11:21 am

    Colo. hemp legislation would launch industry on a modest scale. Sometimes I wonder about California. Big money in hemp. The new cash crop for the New Economy--wake up--read http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22851653/colo-hemp-legislation-would-launch-industry-modest-scale

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 09, 2013 - 11:22 am

    From George Washington's diary: August 7, 1765: "--began to seperate the Male from the Female Hemp at Do--rather too late."

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  • MidnightApril 09, 2013 - 11:23 am

    DB, President Obama is no more my pres than yours. Yes, he is ALSO a hypocrite. Not only did he partake, he broke a campaign promise. Barack Obama promised a more tolerant approach to medical marijuana, saying he would not ‘circumvent state laws on this issue.' See, you are in good company.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 11:26 am

    Canadian farmers at the Thursday forum said the crop is resistant to drought and weeds, relatively easy to grow, and profitable compared to other mainstream crops. Manitoba hemp scientist Anndrea Hermann said the Canadian crop recently has generated average profits of $255 per acre compared with $208 for corn, $201 for canola and $100 for wheat. So El Dorado--all that open space...apartments or a new cash crop?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 11:40 am

    View this video of Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had plastic panels made from a mixture of 70% cellulose fibers from hemp whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel at 2/3 rd's the weight for better economy (Popular Mechanics, 1941) Alcohol prohibition prevented Mr. Ford from powering his fleet with "plant-power" http://www.hemp-technologies.com/page33/page33.html Our government used the fear tactic to make marijuana illegal--which stopped the crop "hemp" other states will now use the legalization of weed to bring in crops of hemp. California can either make money...or sit back and wonder what happened. Other places are producing it--already making cars-houses--clothes out of it.

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  • MidnightApril 09, 2013 - 11:43 am

    One example of the importance of hemp: Five years after cannabis hemp was outlawed in 1937, it was promptly re-introduced for the World War II effort in 1942. So, when the young pilot George Bush bailed out of his burning airplane after a battle over the Pacific, little did he know: Parts of his aircraft engine were lubricated with cannabis hemp seed oil; 100% of his life-saving parachute webbing was made from U.S. grown cannabis hemp; Virtually all the rigging and ropes of the ship that pulled him in were made of cannabis hemp; The fire hoses on the ship (as were those in the schools he had attended) were woven from cannabis hemp; and, Finally, as young George Bush stood safely on the deck, his shoes’ durable stitching was of cannabis hemp, as it is in all good leather and military shoes to this day. Yet Bush has spent a good deal of his career eradicating the cannabis plant and enforcing laws to make certain that no one will learn this information - possibly including himself...

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  • Jay RothApril 09, 2013 - 12:50 pm

    Man, you Teaparty people have let me down again. Dam hypocrites at the highest level. You say you want the gov out of your life and personal decisions, yet here you are condoning exactly what you don’t want for yourselves

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 1:27 pm

    Tea Party? I think hemp as a cash crop is beyond parities. The parties are busy fighting among themselves--so the world leaders can do other things. I dont think the world veiw of global society includes "parties" --I have not seen a reference to them yet. Money rules...not parties any longer.

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  • DeeApril 09, 2013 - 1:38 pm

    This Tea Party member wants marijuana to be legalized so that we can collect the taxes and institute the same regulations that on tobacco and alcohol. In fact I am beginning to think that the Portugal and Holland way is the way to go. Then the Puritan governm;ent elite can start on the social demonizing of rcreational drug use and watch the participation rate go down.

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  • James E.April 09, 2013 - 2:40 pm

    Bush Sr. was picked up by a submarine. Therefore, he was picked up by a boat. As in, undersea boat. I support the use of hemp -- it grows quickly and has a multitude of uses. But, as with most things, special interests will prevent its use.

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  • DB SmithApril 09, 2013 - 6:48 pm

    From what I've read, hemp is an entirely different form of cannabis. Very low THC which makes it pretty much unsuitable for getting high, and as Thelma and Louise pointed out earlier, it has many other uses. Even the colonel thinks it's a good thing, especially since it saved George. Sounds like pretty good stuff and a high five for it, but it's entirely unrelated to the other form of Cannabis that is bred strictly for the high THC content. Many different varieties and strengths with different effects for different people. If it were legalized and became the norm I wonder how many less of our youth including adults would be able to pass a drug test and obtain employment and perform at their best with cannabis in their system? I wonder how many less men and women would be able to join our armed forces and perform at their best? The people that say we should legalize it so we can tax it do not have the best interest of the people. I know I hear it coming...hey dude I smoke pot everyday and I do great things all da tim. I no lawyers and doctors an cops & uh who ar thso uder peeple i no. Toke on brothers and sisters and stay well.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 09, 2013 - 9:02 pm

    you are right DB--but they put the two together--so if one is illegal--so is the other product.

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 10, 2013 - 6:33 am

    DB & Frances -- y'all might want to check the dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hemp. George Washington was trying to separate his pot plants before they went to seed because that's how you make sinsemilla. You can look that up, too.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 8:22 am

    Kirk--I had already read about it--but thanks. The point for me is that hemp is a good cash crop. The medical weed was voted on and passed. Laws and taxes are taking to long. Places where they have legal weed are already in the process of farming hemp. This arrest--if the guy was a felon--send him to jail. If wellness center is doing what it is suppose to--let them go. With all the government problems--pointing fingers just doesnt have a place right now--in this county. People through out history have found "something" to feel relaxed with--every culture. Some of the inventions of hemp are too good to pass up...in this global society. Remember the BOS just signed on for the ride of the Next Economy--we need something. We are buying hemp products from other countries...so we use the product--even the hemp concrete blocks are used here. The seeds making a potent product--isnt vodka made from potatoes?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 8:23 am

    in the picture--what kind of guns are these--can someone tell me? I dont know guns--but some seem like hunting rifles

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 8:29 am

    if a hunting rifle is registered...can you have them in your car?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 8:32 am

    if these are registered guns--are they allowed in cars at any time? or do people get a pass for them during hunting season for hunting only?

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  • DB SmithApril 10, 2013 - 8:33 am

    Kirk, I don't need to look in the dictionary. Hemp has very little THC and not worthy of your bong or zig-zag. You could probably pass a pre-employment drug test if you smoked it. On the other hand...the real deal is the unfertilized female cannabis plant. Smoke some of that then the only pre-employment drug test you will pass is for a street corner pot shop. Take medical marijuana off of the street and out of the gutter and provide it to those that need it in a more dignified manner via a pharmacy or hospital. It should not be mixed in with illegal activities!

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  • EvelynApril 10, 2013 - 8:46 am

    Fran: I love your potatoes/vodka connection. Ban Potatoes?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 8:59 am

    Evelyn--Potatoes have nicotine in them (small amounts--but I would leave that out)...and eaten as french fries contribute to obesity ...over all potatoes are evil. Anything can be spun into evil. (vodka or Schnapps can be made, as well as white lighting) I bet if I had money to run a "hate" potato campaign--people would accept this poor veg. as being the devils food.

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  • Kirk W MacKenzieApril 10, 2013 - 8:59 am

    DB -- You want to make up your own definition for words? Good luck with that.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 10, 2013 - 9:22 am

    It is my experience that potatoes are very hard to light.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 9:32 am

    Phil...lololol--I like you. I was just reading a site where other legal plants are smoked...sage, nutmeg, you can smoke pure chamomile tea. People will do almost anything to "relax"--The list goes on--legal and way more dangerous then "weed"

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  • EvelynApril 10, 2013 - 9:40 am

    Phil: Get help. It's time you stopped trying to light up potatoes. Fran: Careful. Your words may give rise to a potato cabal. Then where will we be?

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 9:48 am

    lololol...Evelyn...I like you as well--you guys make me smile--lolololol

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 10, 2013 - 10:00 am

    "While candy and soda get the worst rap for destroying your teeth, starchy items such as potato chips can be just as bad. If you tend to snack on starchy items all day, your chance of getting a cavity increases even more. .http://thetoothstation.com/2012/10/16/potatochipsbadforteeth/ POTATOES ARE EVIL...LOLOL alright point made. Although Im curious how people just smoke plants in their yard--do you send in a friend to smoke the plant--and if they live--you put out the recipe? And if they dont make it...do you just keep it to yourself?

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  • EvelynApril 10, 2013 - 11:25 am

    "The Pharma Reich" HERE -- Lammont DuPont, his banker Andrew Mellon (ALCOA financer) and one William Randolph Hearst were the co-conspirators who also brought us “Reefer Madness”, the campaign for convincing Americans that marijuana was the devils weed. Mellon appointed his nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to Commissioner of the newly created Federal Bureau of Narcotics in order to successfully stamp out the threat of hemp production.

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  • real25April 10, 2013 - 7:25 pm

    Cannabis can be used as medicine. I had to take steroids that made me feel strange. Pot made me feel better. Doctors only practice "standard of care" medicine because they don't want to get sued. They would never recommend pot even though it will make someone feel better. Over use of weed is a hazard like over use of most things is a hazard. Until society is honest about pot and the complete cost of these types of busts we will continue the law enforcement culture over a true free society. Sheriff is fine with the weapons that will injure his deputy, until you add pot to the mix now he has a problem with guns. El Dorado County is stuck in 1950's culture. We probably have to wait another 10 years for the ww2 generation to all kick the bucket before we can get a Sheriff that will catch the real criminals in the county like those breaking into homes. The ww2 generation was strong and courageous. Now they are old and angry at everything that has changed. El Dorado county has its priorities wrong. The mentally ill poor are on their own to pay for sheriffs who bust legal pot sellers.

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  • DB SmithApril 10, 2013 - 8:34 pm

    The important thing is that a FELON in possession of firearms was removed from the street nimrod. I'm sure you can still get your pot other places.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 10, 2013 - 8:58 pm

    DB, regarding Nimrod - LINK - . . . a mighty hunter and king of Shinar who was a grandson of Ham and a great-grandson of Noah. Back in my deer hunting days we used to award the "NIMROD AWARD" at the end of the season. It was a glossed chiken turd glued on a 2 X 2 stained and polished block of oak. The winners wer the screw-ups - spike shooters - doe shooters - fell asleep on stand . . . Why is Nimrod so besmerched anyway?

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  • DB SmithApril 10, 2013 - 9:11 pm

    Good question Phil. Besides the biblical Nimrod, I've always heard it means acting like a dumb a*s.

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 10, 2013 - 9:25 pm

    I'm thinking that I recall that Numb Nuts had a brother Nimrod.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 11, 2013 - 8:18 am

    It's true that many texts concur with you that Nimrod was in fact a mighty hunter and powerful King. The problem is that he is also depicted as a sinner to a large extreme. Now, there are many ideas as to when and why people started calling other people Nimrod. A less religious theory would say that it was first used by Bugs Bunny in a Looney Toons cartoon where Bugs Bunny called Elmer Fudd "Poor little Nimrod". Here it is used as sarcasm since Elmer Fudd is notably bad hunter. The more religious theory doesn't really answer the "when" question but rather, answers the "why" question. Nimrod was the great grandson of Noah, who was famously loyal to God. Because of this, it is thought that Nimrod being a sinner is definitively his own fault as he had a fantastic teacher to mimic. Therefore, if you are shown the way - you are given the tools and/or resources to succeed - and you fowl up anyways: You are a Nimrod.http://wiki.answers.com/

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 11, 2013 - 9:09 am

    OMG, Francis! Thank you for your research. Let me see if I have this right. Therefore, if Obama's administation is shown the way - they are given the tools and/or resources to succeed - and they fowl up anyways: They are a Nimrods. Do I have that right?

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  • Phil VeerkampApril 11, 2013 - 9:33 am

    Frances, the mere mention of Buggs Bunny widens the door opening to my own research potential. Here is a slight expansion on your fine work.LINK - - - predating Bugs Bunny . . . EtymologyIn most English-speaking countries, Nimrod is used to describe a hunter or warrior, after the biblical character of Nimrod, who is described as "a mighty hunter". In American English it has assumed a derogatory meaning. This usage is thought likely to have originated with the classic cartoon character Bugs Bunny, who referred to Elmer Fudd as a "poor little Nimrod".[1] While this was most likely meant to refer sarcastically to the biblical Nimrod, the word came to connote one who was easily confounded. Another explanation for this usage derives from the John Steinbeck memoir Travels with Charley: In Search of America, in which Steinbeck used the term sarcastically while describing an inquest after a hunter accidentally shot his partner: "The coroner questioning this nimrod..."[2] The Oxford English Dictionary, however, cites a 1933 writing as the first usage of nimrod to refer to a fool, predating Bugs Bunny by at least five years and Steinbeck by nearly thirty.[3] However, this could still have been used in the sense of a hunter (i.e. someone pursuing a love interest). Another possible explanation is from the play entitled "The Lion of the West" by James Paulding. First performed in 1831, it features a comedic characterization of Davy Crockett named Col. Nimrod Wildfire who attempts to woo a young French woman. Subsequent reference may refer to this character. Thank you, DB, for triggering this line of inquiry.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 11, 2013 - 10:34 am

    lolololol Phil I had the chance to remove bugs--but I loved him as a kid...it was worth it ;)

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netApril 11, 2013 - 11:09 am

    Phil...could Nimrod be the "hunter" Davy Crockett? Im going to have to give this one to you--so far yours is the earliest siting of humor. http://www.teachamericanhistory.org/file/davy_crockett.pdf

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  • WillJune 04, 2013 - 9:46 pm

    To 1036 Frank and numerous other completely ignorant, judgmental people who have commented here...you CAN'T be serious with your ridiculous rantings! I am being polite in calling you ignorant and choosing to believe that it is lack of knowledge rather than pure stupidity that would lead you to leave such narrow minded, ridiculous comments. Do you REALLY believe every news article and propaganda photo that you see? You make these broad sweeping comments like, "This felon was very well armed with what will be found to be "black market" guns usually from home burglaries or straw buyers who should be arrested for providing guns to a felon. I have said these armed felons need life sentences, here is a great example of trouble waiting to happen. If this store-front dope selling scam is so safe and it is for "wellness" why all the heavy armament??" You act as though you are making factual statements based on first-hand knowledge! Do you KNOW these people? Do you know ANYTHING other than what was published here? If not, why opine as if you do and as if to say you know the truth? I can assure you that you do NOT know what you're talking about so, as someone who knows the attorneys and others involved in this case, let me save you further embarassment and provide you with a few facts on this particular issue. First, no firearms were found AT the "wellness center." Not ONE. Yes, I realize that the propaganda photo provided by law enforcement makes it seem as though the operator of the business was heavily armed, but that just simply is not the case. Furthermore, You actually wrote that the weapons "WILL be found to be "black market" guns." REALLY?! Again, you act as though you are touting facts rather than opinion! This may disappoint you, sir, but NONE of the weapons were obtained by illegal means. Second, the "dope" in that picture was from TWO separate wellness center locations...not just one as the banner in the background deceivingly leads the reader to believe. Third, the money is inclusive of money from two separate wellness center locations, several bank accounts, money that was being withheld to pay taxes to the State AND not all of the money was related to the businesses in question. Now, to answer another of your questions..."Might it be the class of people involved are dangerous and of a criminal element and attract a criminal element?" Well, perhaps in some cases that would be true but in this one the it is not and without all of the facts, sir, exactly who are you to judge? The dangerous felon you speak of does have a felony conviction from about 25 years ago, but I can assure you, he is not a dangerous, violent or even a mean or unpleasant person. All of that being said, I can appreciate your opinion on marijuana. Many people agree with you and still many others do not. I personally don't use marijuana myself, but God forbid I or anyone I love should be faced with cancer or some other hideous disease...I can't say what I would do. I'm just thankful that, unlike you, I do not keep stones nearby my glass house. God bless you and yours.

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