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Sly Park tourism generates $2.4 million

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PARKS AND RECREATION Superintendent Cheri Jaggers stands with fisherman Bob Durand, 62, of Pollock Pines, at a boat dock on Sly Park Lake. Sly Park has seen positive results from tourism recently. Democrat photo by Shelly Thorene

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From page A1 | November 05, 2012 | 37 Comments

The Sly Park Recreation Area is more than just a pretty place. It’s also a money-maker for the community, bringing in an estimated $2.4 million in tourist dollars to help support local businesses.

That number comes from Cheri Jaggers, the Parks and Recreation superintendent for the El Dorado Irrigation District (EID). She based it on a study done by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in which standard multipliers were developed to project the economic impact on local communities of recreation areas.

While Sly Park was not part of the study, Jaggers used the same multipliers and came up with a conservative estimate of $2.4 million dollars spent locally by tourists using the Sly Park Recreation Area. That total does not include fees paid by visitors to enter and use the facility.

“The park helps support a very nice grocery store and a half-dozen restaurants that wouldn’t be here if not for the tourist dollars,” said Jaggers. “We’d all be going to Placerville to shop instead.”

Just three years ago, Jaggers estimates the economic impact was $1.6 million, or 50 percent less than what it is today.

So far this year, 500,000 visitors have used the recreation area. And while they are busiest during the summer, the park is almost always occupied. On Thursday, a handful of fishermen were on the docks bringing in their limit of rainbow trout after 3,000 pounds of fish were planted in the lake. And when there’s snow, a lower parking lot is cordoned off for children to use to build snowmen.

Facilities at the lake are extensive and usually fill up early during peak season which runs from the end of June to the middle of August. On site are 191 individual campsites, space for 300 day use visitors, plus a camp used by both the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts. The park also offers an event center that can be rented for meetings, weddings, birthdays and other occasions for only $265 a day. It has a full kitchen, picnic tables, barbecue area and lake views.

Other facilities are available for visitors with special needs. For example there are six group areas and 13 campsites that have corrals for those on horseback. In addition they have 10 campsites for the disabled and an ADA compliant boat ramp.

Because of the beautiful setting, the park is in demand as a backdrop for different films and videos. Jagger said staff have worked with a dozen production companies in the last two years resulting in two award-winning films: “Bloodlines” and “Nothing Left.” Two years ago they did a magazine shoot featuring ice hockey great, Wayne Gretzky. More recently they were the site for a music video featuring the Papa Roach band out of Vacaville.

Asked what’s the draw, Mary Lynn Carlton, who is the communications and community relations director for EID said, “It’s because we’re wonderful to work with. We make it easy for them to shoot because we know that for them time is money. And our prices are very very reasonable at $250 a day.”

Carlton and Jaggers also noted that there are many extras and production people in the immediate area if a film crew needs help so that’s an added bonus.

Carlton said in the past EID has had to subsidize the park. Now more people are using the park and that revenue, plus cutting costs, has put the facility in a break-even position. For that, Carlton credits Jaggers who has been the superintendent at Sly Park since 2008. “When she arrived, the facility was $1.6 million in the red. But for three years in a row we have broken even,” said Carlton.

Jaggers said they are always working on improving the park. Recent projects have included grading additional camp sites to level them out, improving the day use area, cleaning out the weeds in Hazel Meadow and replanting it with native grasses, and adding another camp site for the disabled.

“Our visitations have grown exponentially,” said Jagger. “Many people are attracted to the waterfall at the lake. It’s a destination in itself. But the biking and hiking trails are also very popular.”

Jagger found out just how popular two years ago when she was at an ATV Jamboree in Utah and was surprised to hear Sacramento Sheriff’s Deputies talking among themselves about how much they liked the trails at Sly Park Recreation Area.

Contact Dawn Hodson at 530-344-5071 or dhodson@mtdemocrat.net. Follow @DHodsonMtDemo on Twitter.

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Discussion | 37 comments

  • CherylNovember 05, 2012 - 11:37 am

    Jenkinson Lake is not user friendly for locals. They charge $6 a dog and then won't let them swim, but boats & people peeing is OK. How stupid! Tried to take someout of town friends to see lake because they wanted to take their trailer there and they made me pay $10 for being there 15 minutes to promote THEIR lake. So many other places to go that don't rip you off.

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  • DarrinNovember 06, 2012 - 8:10 am

    @Cheryl, I find the lake to be quite a bargain for us. We purchase a pass each year and enjoy it most of the year except when it is too busy in the summer. As far as dogs go, it applies to ALL DOMESTIC ANIMALS and I personally do not want to drink dog crap, thanks. If the park does not enforce the No Dogs, the lake could become a no body contact reservoir like most other lakes in CA. EID takes excellent care of the lake, so yes, you have to pay use fees, but that helps keep the lake in good shape.

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  • DarrinNovember 06, 2012 - 8:11 am

    WHY NO DOGS IN THE WATER In 2003, El Dorado Irrigation District purchased Jenkinson Lake from USBR. This change also transferred oversight of the lake from Federal to State authority. The State of California does not allow body contact in drinking water reservoirs. Jenkinson Lake is one of the approximately six (6) drinking water reservoirs with a legislative exemption from the no body contact regulation. When the legislation was passed allowing body contact to continue at Jenkinson Lake legislative conditions were imposed. The conditions were: 1.provide fencing and buoys at the second dam to protect the drinking water intake 2.no domestic animals in the water 3.no diapers in the water Allowing violations of these conditions could result in the revocation of the no body contact exemption. “No body contact” is defined as no wading, swimming, or boating (kayaks, rafts, fishing boats, etc.) of any kind for people.

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  • Greg PradaNovember 06, 2012 - 8:34 am

    "But for three years in a row we have broken even,” said Carlton." Personally,I love Sly Park...it IS a jewel. That said, Sly Park fees don't cover its debt service and overhead costs...only its direct operating costs... and Ms. Carlton's assertion simply is not true. Instead, EID's recreational facilities annually cost EID water ratepayers an extra half million in rates.

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  • "no body contact"November 06, 2012 - 8:36 am

    Darrin, where do the fish poop?

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  • Patty DavidNovember 06, 2012 - 10:26 am

    Sly Parks day use fee's are outragouse....and the red dirt Stains everything!!! Luv the lake though!!

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  • Whitehall65November 06, 2012 - 10:40 am

    SlyPark=Flatlander Central as evident by some of the comments posted here. Sly Park has ducks, geese, chipmonks, deer, mountain lions and the occasional bear defecating near or in the water. Combine that with 1/2 million drunk flatlanders urinating in that lake. However, dogs are to blame for the water quality-right. Yes, high standards for drinking water brought to you by EID-Enjoy your water Darrin.

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  • chrispyNovember 06, 2012 - 11:41 am

    I remember why Sly Park was uncrowded. Really uncrowded.

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  • SHNovember 06, 2012 - 11:57 am

    I agree with Cheryl and whitehall. It's only a few minutes from my house but I don't go because its too expensive and I can't bring my dogs - and my dogs hate the water so they wouldn't even swim in it, they just want to be with us. And they charge a ridiculous amount even if you aren't using the lake. You don't want to drink dog crap, Darrin? Fine, drink the piss of every drunken valley punk who goes boating out there. Enjoy that.

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  • DarrinNovember 07, 2012 - 9:01 am

    Gotta love it when people have to be rude like whitehead65 and SH ($nithead?)! As far as the water quality goes, I am on a well, so my concern is for the community at large. Yes, I know there are other animals that crap there, but I prefer not to have even more. It is a choice to go to the lake. Not having you there sounds like it is for the best. Too expensive? How much do you pay for internet a month? I am sure it is more than the $10 per month it costs for the Lake pass ($120 a year). If you don't like it, take it up with the state. It is only EID's responsibility to enforce the regulation. Do you want to lose the revenue generated by the lake? Part of its popularity is because you can swim in it. We do not go in the summer very often, but Sept through May it is mighty nice.

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  • EvelynNovember 07, 2012 - 9:20 am

    As a teenager I swam & water skied in the formerly unregulated people friendly Sly Park waters. Actually, before that I had learned to swim in a reservoir that served as a primary water source for dairy cows ('nuf said!!!). Lots of family and friends did likewise. Perhaps we can be reassured by the fact that sunlight remains the best disinfectant. Nature hasn't changed in the interim.

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  • EvelynNovember 07, 2012 - 9:41 am

    CLARIFICATION. Sly Park was THEN unregulated. No known health issues, not even from swimming in a cow friendly reservoir.

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  • DarrinNovember 07, 2012 - 3:38 pm

    I should probably get out in the sun a bit, then...

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  • InformedNovember 09, 2012 - 12:40 am

    EID is a corporation that has it's operating budget 100% paid by credit. Not one dollar of park fees goes towards any service but sure does line pockets. All public parks and lands are to have free access to the public and the people are now learning how to lawfully exercise the right of use. Another point- It's also an option to drink water from another source if the thought of urine is that bothersome even though it is a sterile substance and of no harm. I'd would be more thoughtful of the gas and oil from the boats but ant ill-effects from them are so minute they are not reaching home owner's supplies.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 09, 2012 - 5:47 am

    Informed, on the one hand your information base says, "EID is a corporation" and on the other hand you say, "All public parks and lands are to have free access to the public". Since you are Informed can you help me to understand your seeming contradiction?

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  • InformedNovember 14, 2012 - 11:07 am

    Yes, as referenced at manta.com, "El Dorado Irrigation District in Pollock Pines, CA is a private company...". What is a private company doing operating public lands? Isn't that what the government is for? We have found that public lands are placed under the control of private corporations who then charge fees for their use. It is unconstitutional to force the public to pay fees for public land use but they have been sneaking these fees in under the guise that they are needed for many years. The fees start out so small that they are generally accepted and then incrementally increased over the years. The people have had enough and are beginning to use the land at their liberty.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 14, 2012 - 11:34 am

    Informed - LINK - USBR To Transfer Sly Park To El Dorado Irrigation District - Released On: October 08, 2003 - The transfer ceremony begins at 10:30 a.m. on Monday, October 13 near the boat ramp at Jenkinson Reservoir - Stipulating per your information that EID is private and given that the USBR has turned Sly Park/Jenkinson Lake over to this private entity do you still assert a public right of access to this private property?

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  • less informedNovember 14, 2012 - 12:28 pm

    Informed: Are there any gov't agencies/entities that HAVE NOT been corporatized? At first glance it appears nothing any longer belongs to "We the People".

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  • prime timeNovember 14, 2012 - 12:37 pm

    "The United States GSEs are private corporations owned by their stockholders, rather than government-owned corporations. Their primary function is to generate profits for their stockholders."

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  • prime timeNovember 14, 2012 - 12:46 pm

    EID is a corporation

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  • prime timeNovember 14, 2012 - 12:50 pm

    City of Placerville Finance Dept is a corporation

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  • InformedNovember 17, 2012 - 2:11 am

    Hello Phil- The property is not private, it remains public and is managed by the Central California Area Office (CCAO). EID only operates the park and facilities. Hello Less Informed- Finding an agency that isn't corporatized would be finding a diamond in the rough. The good news is that this public park and all the others still do belong to "We the People" and now we are gaining understanding about how to use them at liberty without license or fee. For further discussion feel free to post at http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/forum.php

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 17, 2012 - 7:43 am

    Informed asserts " EID only operates the park and facilities. . . . and now we are gaining understanding about how to use them at liberty without license or fee." . . . . Informed is asserting a right to free access to another person's work. EID operates Sly Park with staff cost to EID. Informed is asserting "we the people" have a right to another person's (EID's staff) work without compensation. I believe Abraham Lincoln setteled that theory. . . . I did follow the link to your site. Interesting. . . . Can you tell me the end result of one ounce of gold being compounded annualy for 2000 years at 3.0615% . . . Here is the formula - A = P(1+r/n)^nt - - - your answer?

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  • hair on fireNovember 17, 2012 - 7:49 am

    your point is that in 2000 yrs informed can buy sly park for 1 oz of gold if the bankers set the interest rate at 3.0615%?

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  • hair on fireNovember 17, 2012 - 7:54 am

    now i c - trick question - youre sayin that in 2000 yrs at 3.0615% all the gold in the world would sink sly park.

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  • basic arithmeticNovember 17, 2012 - 8:16 am

    Question 59748: Use the compound interest formula A=P(1+r/n)^nt to answer the following questions. In the formula, A is the amount of money in the savings account, P is the principle, r is the interest rate, t is the time that the money is in the account, and n is the number of times the money is compounded per year. Write each answer to the following questions in a complete sentence. a. What will be the amount in the account if $800 is invested at 2.4% compounded monthly for 5 years? b. What amount should a person place in an account if she wishes to have $1500 in 4 years if the money is compounded quarterly at an interest rate of 3.5%? (Scroll Down for Answer!)

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 17, 2012 - 8:40 am

    The answer to the compounding question is a lump of gold equal to the mass of the earth. The point? If you study LINK - Informed's site you discover an anti FED (gold standard/legal tender) argument. I suspect that Occupy Wall Street is the parent company. I suspect its basic thrust is "lawfare" anarchism libertarianism.

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  • basic arithmeticNovember 17, 2012 - 9:22 am

    $901.89

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  • DB SmithNovember 17, 2012 - 9:33 am

    basic arithmetic a. = $901.89 / b. = $1,304.83

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  • basic arithmeticNovember 17, 2012 - 9:43 am

    DB: Youre rite. Is 50% a pass?

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  • basic arithmeticNovember 17, 2012 - 9:45 am

    aktualy the anser book sez $1304.8316

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 17, 2012 - 9:48 am

    aktualy the answer is 2.107E+26 --- a number followed by 26 zeros

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  • basic arithmeticNovember 17, 2012 - 9:50 am

    the demkrats allys round off in there faver. just anuther weigh of cheatin the sistem.

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  • DB SmithNovember 17, 2012 - 9:52 am

    basic arithmetic ~ Although the numbers were correct, I actually failed your challenge as I did not phrase the answers in a complete sentence.

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  • Phil VeerkampNovember 17, 2012 - 9:57 am

    to avoid confusion from the math dummies - Starting with 2.107 move the decimal point 26 places to the right or . . . 210,700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

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  • basic arithmeticNovember 17, 2012 - 9:57 am

    tks for your honesty, DB. But next time due it rite.

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  • basic arithmeticNovember 17, 2012 - 10:00 am

    sorry verkamp, but know time for so menny emptie spaces. keep it!

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