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Supervisors, auditor joust about Nutting

From page A11 | May 01, 2013 | 65 Comments

Chairman of the El Dorado County Board of Supervisors Ron Briggs is calling for a “special board investigation,” among other things, to look into an investigation the district attorney is conducting regarding use of public funds by fellow Supervisor Ray Nutting.

Nutting, who has represented District 2 for more than 12 years beginning with back-to-back four-year terms in the 1990s, owns a 600-acre ranch in the South County that is primarily operated as a timberland. Over the years he has applied for and been granted about $70,000 from the state’s Proposition 40 Fuel Management/Reduction Program. Overseen by Cal Fire, the state’s fire department, the grant finances private landowners for efforts to reduce forest fuels that contribute to wildfires.

The supervisor was interviewed on Sacramento’s KOVR TV April 18, and during the interview, it was disclosed that El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson’s office had opened a “criminal investigation” into possible conflict of interest because of Nutting’s position relative to the Sierra Coordinated Resources Management Conservation District, a Joint Powers Agency that administers some of the Prop. 40 grant funds.

Briggs issued a statement last Friday which said, in part:

“As chairman of the Board of Supervisors for the County of El Dorado, I feel compelled to react to recent statements made by District 2 Supervisor Ray Nutting during an April 18 interview airing on KOVR Channel 13. On camera District 2 Supervisor Nutting admitted to taking over $70,000 of public monies to cut and clear wood from his personal lands. Furthermore Mr. Nutting said he saw no wrong with his actions and plans to continue to seek and use future public money for his personal use.

“Until KOVR’s news segment, the Board of Supervisors was unaware of this activity and unaware of an open criminal investigation by the district attorney.”

In published reports over last weekend, Auditor-Controller Joe Harn said a 2009 invoice submitted by Nutting appeared to be “bogus” and “intentionally misleading.” Harn said the document appeared to be written by Nutting himself to himself.

Early in Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors meeting, Nutting asked if he could read a prepared statement, and County Counsel Ed Knapp assured him that he had the same rights to speak as any other member of the audience. Briggs then advised Nutting to stand at the podium rather than speak from his seat on the board’s dais.

“Joe Harn is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts,” Nutting read. “I’ve done nothing wrong and facts will show that.”

His statement went on to note that Cal Fire inspectors processed the claim and verified “that the work had been completed, as set forth in the grant contract, before they authorized payment.” He further stated that Cal Fire was “fully aware of what I was doing.”

Harn followed Nutting to the podium.

“I have been the county auditor for 19 years … and in my opinion, it is problematic for him (Nutting) to award funds to the Sierra Conservation Districts and then apply for grants from that agency.”

Nutting also expressed disappointment that “a fellow board member has jumped to conclusions based on politically charged accusations without even looking at the facts. To state that I’m involved in a ‘conversion of public funds’ is inflammatory and frankly hurtful.”

The statement noted that the district attorney had advised Nutting that public disclosure of the grant income was “deficient” and that the information should  have been recorded with the state’s Fair Political Practices Commission. Nutting, however, stated that he did not believe he was obligated to report the income “because there simply is no conflict of interest.”

After the discussion, Nutting said he plans to request the FPPC issue an opinion on the “potential conflict of interest” and clarify  any requirement to disclose the grant income.

After the meeting, Nutting told the Mountain Democrat: “The auditor is not an attorney. He tries to be everything to everybody.”

Briggs’s statement concluded, “On behalf of the Board of Supervisors it is imperative for the public to know we do not condone any conversion of public money to personal use, period. I will be asking for a special board investigation into Mr. Nutting’s activities.

“Finally, the public is to be assured the Board of Supervisors and our county staff will work cooperatively with the district attorney. Should events unfold calling for our board to take unusual or appropriate steps to preserve the integrity of our board, county employees and citizens of the county of El Dorado, we shall do so in a swift and immediate fashion.”

Contact Chris Daley at 530-344-5063 or Follow @CDaleyMtDemo. 


Discussion | 65 comments

  • James SmithApril 30, 2013 - 2:34 pm

    And where is our Grand Jury that was disbanded by Brigg's Brother-in-law???

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  • raspberryApril 30, 2013 - 4:39 pm

    The BOS approves the County budget. That includes the DA's budget. Nutting is on the Board. The DA will want to keep him happy so he will not cut his budget.

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  • EvelynApril 30, 2013 - 4:46 pm

    raspberry, I don't understand the logic of this sentence: "The DA will want to keep him happy so he will not cut his budget." The DA will want to keep Nutting happy?????

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  • 1036-FrankApril 30, 2013 - 8:31 pm

    People should go to the news 10 website and watch the story there for a better understanding of the situation. It is reported on the news 10 site that over 100k is involved and that there are conflict of interest problems that are not "misunderstandings" there are also issues with invoices that were self created and self signed. Then we have the failure to report problems. This situation does not bode well for Nuttin and his actions of speaking for himself by addressing the BOS was bizarre to put it mildly, he does promise legal talking points from an attorney no doubt soon, will it be soon enough is the question as this ship is sinking fast.

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  • Walking TallMay 01, 2013 - 12:13 am

    After viewing the 10 News piece one must wonder why the DA even needs to investigate Ray as he admits the violations. Joe Harn was able to give the board the document after Ray opened his mouth and said he didn't charge for the work he did, but billed CalFire anyway. After the BOS meeting Ray makes more statements and says he will "carefully draft a responce so as to address the law", boy what does the DA need but Ray's admission of guilt and then there is all the 13 news clips where Ray says he took the money and will continue to do so. Ray shows all who have viewed his attempt to explain just how guilty he is, lets hope the DA arrests him soon and the BOS replaces him with an honest man; George Turnboo as it was George that brought up all of Ray's wrong doings and then Ray threatened him. Ray has overstayed his welcome and the list is large along with his type of politics and the money he has taken from the citzens that he swore to serve. Bet the DA will find out just how he has hidden the money and how the past twelve years served him well but as stated before "follow the money". Good bye Ray and thanks for nutting....

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  • cookie65May 01, 2013 - 4:59 am

    Walking Tall, I read the story last night on the News 10 site and the statement that he would carefully draft a response to address the law stood out to me too. This was also from the story, "Ray Nutting claimed he performed none of the labor himself, but submitted a bill with Nutting Brush Clearing on the letterhead and his signature at the bottom." Wasn't he tending the fire that got away from him last year?

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  • Walking TallMay 01, 2013 - 7:33 am

    Ray has an opinion and he has facts but there not his own just as he told Joe Harn; Ray doesn't have a business license for his so called business of "Brush Clearing" but he submits a bill for work he says he didn't bill for and he has always claimed to be a logger but again no business license. He states he had a "Forrester" so he complied with the grant, but no such document was produced and no name given. He thinks he is above the law and rules don't apply to him, he still has that big $1000,000.00 + CalFire bill to pay for his "Out of control burn on a non burn day without a permit of any kind". But as he said "I don't even know the phone # to call for permits and I have never had a Air Quality or burn permit". All of his just flys in the face of all of us who follow the law and rules and don't lie. It's time, way past time to rid our county of Ray and all of his crime partners; Chris, Dan, Rod just to name a few.. With over 500 pages of supporting documents I think that the DA has it seems to me all that is needed to put the case into the courts and that "Fair Political Practice Commission", has enough violations to conduct their investigation in addition to the DA. The right thing to do is for Ray to just step down and save this county money and not add to the millions he has already cost us....

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  • EvelynMay 01, 2013 - 7:49 am

    Walking Tall: It’s hard for us (the public) to sort out what’s really going on. Perhaps you can help. (1) Where did you find the following quote? "I don't even know the phone # to call for permits and I have never had a Air Quality or burn permit." (2) What can you tell us about the DA’s “over 500 pages of supporting documents”? (3) Could you be more specific about “the millions he has already cost us”?

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  • Bill E.May 01, 2013 - 7:53 am

    Just the facts: 1) The grant issuing agency and presumably the final arbiter, CalFire, has stated that everything is in order. 2) The FPPC question is legit, but the DA and Joey Harn are out of their jurisdiction. 3) Briggs improperly (illegally?) used County letterhead to state a fabricated Board position that was never voted on while pursuing a personal vendetta. 4) The DA will never pursue Briggs for his dubious actions 5) The haters will hate regardless of the facts.

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  • RaulMay 01, 2013 - 7:55 am

    Its great when the crooks attack the other crooks. Kinda like old school GOB gangbangers. Its well known that Harn is slimy and in the pockets of Developers and Sacramento politicians. 19 years is much to long for anybody to be in the same elected about a recipe for corruption. The DA will not do anything against a GOB without Harns permission. The grand Jury foreman was Harns puppy. When will the truth come out?

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  • cookie65May 01, 2013 - 8:55 am

    From the MD Jan 25, 2013 Nutting said, "“The boys and I were doing fuels reduction when the wind came up. It caused a flash fire that went straight up the hill from the house." But according to the News 10 story, ""Ray Nutting claimed he performed none of the labor himself". I don't know any of the facts but I do know these two statements don't mesh.

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  • Dave in KelseyMay 01, 2013 - 9:22 am


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  • Ken SteersMay 01, 2013 - 10:33 am

    Public statements from Ray. Cal Fire spokesman sating Cal Fire did nothing wrong. But nothing from the JPA that gave Ray the money? Why hasn't anyone interviewed those people who had the day to day oversight?

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  • 1036-FrankMay 01, 2013 - 10:52 am

    People should understand that Calfire is not a legal authority on public official conflict of interest law, in fact, it really doesn't matter what a Calfire rep. said other then a landowner applied for and received funds from prop. 40. The issue is a public official voting for funding in a district that was paying out those funds to benefit the property of that person, this is the legal issue. Add to them the "invoices" that were used. This case is likely headed to the state AG soon if not already there now.

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  • James E.May 01, 2013 - 11:06 am

    Appears Frank has pinpointed the primary Ray "issue." Well done.

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  • James SmithMay 01, 2013 - 11:06 am

    This is nothing more than a diversion created by Briggs to focus attention away from him.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 01, 2013 - 11:25 am

    None of these "groups" "councils" "economic committees" are lawful--yet All of the supervisors are handing out "free" public money to do as they please--I dont get is happening all over the United States--Why isnt the Federal government stepping in?

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  • Ken SteersMay 01, 2013 - 11:43 am

    Frances, Because it's the way government works today. As Cal Fire has made clear in their statements. Their system is working. The fact that they have found a way to funnel tax payer funds to JPA's with the expressed purpose to pay off local politicians. Is why they are unapologetic. For if they were happy to push the Cal Fire tax. Why would they care what the public thinks regarding this? I wonder if this will even been a speed bump on the expressway to ultimate Socialism. Even if Ray is indicted, the system is the system. My only hope is, (GULP) Jerry Brown will step in to end the hypocrisy.

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  • EvelynMay 01, 2013 - 1:20 pm

    VIDEO/AUDIO recording - "Supervisor Ray Nutting Speaks to BOS About Fuels Reduction Grant Money" - HERE

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  • sunshineMay 01, 2013 - 3:44 pm

    Joe Harn said this invoice was issued in 2009, so what took so long? Harn is running a CPA business on his county manager time, auditing HUD programs in other counties. So what else is Harn doing, besides chasing his staff around tables, to stir the political pot? Could a vote on San Stino not be going the developers way? Could the developers on Marble Valley wonder that Ray is not in their pocket. Or, does Angelo Takapolus want his "county representative" Joe Harn to get rid of Nutting? When Joe Harn starts going after other elected officials there is a payday for him. He needs to decide to NOT run for a next election. Maybe Briggs and the DA Vern Pierson needs to take a look at Joe. Unless they're in on the take.

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  • Ken SteersMay 01, 2013 - 4:23 pm

    sunshine you're Ray's sunshine you make Ray happy when skies are grey...

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  • Ernie LouisMay 01, 2013 - 5:59 pm

    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Ernie Louis

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  • R SmithMay 01, 2013 - 6:10 pm

    Somehow, our little rural county has become fertile ground for a list of those who are engaged in elitism and who have an agenda that is feeding their desire to bully their way into maintaining their ruling classification. Having run the duck test (looks, quacks, waddles like a duck, it must be a duck) it appears like the County Auditor is high on the list. Attending a short course in contract reading has given the auditor yet another tool for sniping at undesirables while maintaining the aroma of a crusader for the next election. For years the ruling class, Chicago style support, has held sway over who got elected and to what. It is yet to be seen if their influence was responsible for the recent blowup of the Grand Jury and possible manipulation of that body. After all, if a Grand Jury report was pending, that was critical of the forthright-fullness of your agenda, what would you do? Whatever their agenda might be, it is becoming apparent that whatever entity (fire districts etc.) gets between them and their agenda they will become a target for persecution. This includes denial of county funding, press releases’, editorials, TV news, and radio talk shows. The brush clearing program has been a successful operation for some time and has garnered favor among our citizens. As have many in the county, it is likely that Mr. Nutting has gotten crosswise with the agenda and has incurred the wrath of one or more of the self-aggrandizing saviors of the county. It becomes troubling when the media and the Grand Jury becomes just another tool for those who squat in high places. It is interesting that the main castigators in this latest shootout are all republicans doing a job sanctioned by the state, paid for by public funds, same as Mr. Nutting being paid with public funds for doing a job sanctioned by the state. What we have here is another standard republican circular firing squad.

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  • NancyMay 01, 2013 - 6:34 pm

    Throw his butt in jail.

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  • observerMay 01, 2013 - 6:36 pm

    Lynch mobs are a real hoot.

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  • marianMay 01, 2013 - 7:04 pm

    There is a lot more going on here than either Ray or Joe has commented about. Ray is the BOS rep to the various local fire safety agencies, including both the Happy Valley and Grizzly Flats agencies. The minutes of those meetings, especially the ones in 2010, were on line, put there by the Forest Service. Many of us found the minutes where Ray recommended to these agencies that they go after the grants from CalFire. He never mentioned he had property in the areas included in the grant, even though the specifications of the grant area were specified in those minutes. A property owners map from the County listed both Ray and his brother Tom as owners of multiple properties in that specified area. Never once did Ray tell the Fire Safe Councils that he was a property owner in the areas he recommended for grants, nor did he tell the other BOS members about it. Funny thing---now those minutes from 2010 have been removed from on-line and you can't get copies. Also, Ray's original 700 form for the 2012 election, where you declare all income and properties, did not include any grant monies he received. And this is not the first time. And funny, that original 700 form is also missing, replaced by a new (April, 2012) 700 which does include grant money. I didn't know it was legal to replace a 700 form after the election and remove the old one. Did the Elections Dept allow him to do this?Fortunately, many of us have copies of the 2010 minutes from the Fire Safe Councils and the original 700 form, and we know how to use them. This is not the JPAs fault---they did not know whose properties were covered in the grants. But Ray did, and he conveniently and corruptly kept his mouth shut. And now he has painted himself into quite a corner. THis man is a crook, folks, and will say absolutely anything or promise anything to win favor or be elected? Remember the park he promised the get in his first eight years on the BOS in the 90's? He swore he would achieve that and took credit for the idea (Not his idea). Have you every heard anthing about it since then? He just wanted political points and had no intention of following up on that. Everything Ray does is a lie or a false promise and he has been getting away with it for years. Please, for heaven's sake, stop him once and for all, and please send Dan Dellinger, Cris Alarcon, and Rodney Stanhope (his pack of lackeys) along with him.

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  • Rodney StanhopeMay 01, 2013 - 9:09 pm

    marian - Your ASSumption is quite uninformed. You state "Please, for heaven's sake, stop him once and for all, and please send Dan Dellinger, Cris Alarcon, and Rodney Stanhope (his pack of lackeys) along with him." I work for the California Republican Party, and American Action Network (A Super PAC out of Washington DC), I never have worked for, been paid by, nor been in a partnership with the others you mention. So if you don't mind - get your facts straight before you decide to throw names out there!

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  • Compass2TruthMay 01, 2013 - 10:28 pm

    This press release statement made by Ron Briggs is blatantly FALSE: “Until KOVR’s news segment, the Board of Supervisors was unaware of this activity and unaware of an open criminal investigation by the district attorney.” This CIO inquiry to the BOS was made today: "While I worked for the Sacramento Mayor and City Manager all press releases and talking points were (and still are) handled by Chief Information Officer, Amy Williams. Who is the *official* Public Relations spokesperson for: (1) the County of El Dorado, (2) BOS, and (3) city of Placerville? (4) To whom in authority does that person(s) report to?" Anyone want to take bets on whether the BOS will respond without a FOIA Request for Public Information???

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  • 57 ChevyMay 01, 2013 - 10:39 pm

    Marion & Raul hit the bulls eye. Excellent research and thanks for identifying the GOBs. This is exactly the info the public needs to sink their teeth into and run with it. Hold ALL their feet to the fire.

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  • GumpMay 01, 2013 - 10:45 pm

    Stupid is as stupid Briggs & Nuttin often do. Oh yesiree--that's just EDC politics as usual.

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  • Walking TallMay 02, 2013 - 7:08 am

    Evelyn, One only has to listen to Ray for the information you requested, in addition view the first reporting on the "Out of control without any permits, control burn" news footage where Ray said "I don't even know who to call, nor the number and I always burn on the ranch". The 500 + pages of supporting documents were received by channel 13 news, under the freedom of information act that they requested and was shown to the public on their news cast. The DA has been investigating Ray for quit some time and have siezed numerous documents, statements, records, testomy, evidence etc. for his case, all of which will be brought out soon we hope. But more often than not it's Ray's statements and his actions that we should pay the most attention to, he told the DA he didn't even know certain people and then we find out that he is in a partnership with them, that his son works for one of the ones he doesn't know or that measure F was brought on by Ray's suggestions and that the people used were Ray, Chris, Dan and Rod. So again look, listen and learn from Ray and how he can't tell the truth, even when he spoke to channel 10 he said he "would have more information and he would be sure that it complied with the law after he wrote or put it together". All that he said was that he will be sure to put his slant on what he produces, we need to rid this county of Ray and his type of bullying politics and the violations of law that he and his associates commit. Ray can't handle the truth nor does he ever say the same story twice. Review his voting record, past favors, developers projects and see the facts that I am sure our DA has already done/ We will soon see all the evidence that is about to be released and pending arrest completed, along with those who are involved, who should come clean before they don't have a chance to correct their wrongs. Ray, if you are reading the people who elected you, now is the time to be honest and step down pending the investigation or just admit what you have done and pay the fines, fees and do the right have hurt those who once believed in you and now don't.

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  • cookie65May 02, 2013 - 7:17 am

    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."-Thomas Jefferson

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  • 1036-FrankMay 02, 2013 - 7:30 am

    Choices and actions of voting as an elected official to benefit your owned property is what the issue is here and what will remain as the issue where the line was crossed. There are a number of other failure to disclose, report, and CYA actions that went on as well. A smart politician never votes on a conflict or possible conflict for this very reason. People want to blame everyone except the one who did it and kept doing it and said they would continue doing it. This has been a long time coming and was not surprising to anyone and not unforeseen.

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  • EldoradoMay 02, 2013 - 7:36 am

    Today is the National Day of Prayer... Maybe we should all pray for a new government..

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  • cookie65May 02, 2013 - 8:23 am

    Frank, you are right, even the appearance of impropriety is something that needs to be considered by elected officials. If that is too much for them they shouldn't have run for the position. As I stated before, I don't know any of the facts, but it seems to me the exercise of better judgment and all of this could have been avoided. Character is what people do when no one is looking. Our congress is free to make millions on insider trading, many times based on legislation they create. It is how harry reid showed up at the US Senate with $10 and is now worth around $40 million. You and I would go to jail for what is legal for them. It is like elizabeth 'spreadingbull' warren supporting affirmative action so she can use it to gain advancement that her room temperature IQ could never achieve.

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  • 57ChevyMay 02, 2013 - 8:46 am

    Eldorado: Haven't you noticed? We already got what you prayed for--a new government called The Next Economy--thanks to the unanimous approval of the BOS. Duh!

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  • James E.May 02, 2013 - 9:03 am

    Cookie, the Congress is corrupt beyond belief. I wonder how Senator Reid went from $10.00 to $40M? However, I also wonder how Senator McConnell is worth $40M -- bet he didn't enter the Senate with much more than $11.00. The whole bunch, Senate and House corrupt beyond belief.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 02, 2013 - 9:14 am

    Chevy--ouch...but you are correct. Although it has been here for awhile--look to any of the self governing groups, boards-committees that have received funds from BOS (and matching grant monies.)

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  • marianMay 02, 2013 - 10:28 am

    First of all, Rodney, I do have my facts straight. I know who you work for, but I have also seen you fawn all over Ray, Dan, and Cris way too many times and you have been identified with Ray too often. It doesn't matter whether you take money from him or not. Everyone has your number. You are the same whining, dishonest weasel you were as a little boy--I remember it well from Pollock Pines. But more important, I emphasize again that Ray will do anything to try to wiggle out of these charges, and I mean ANYTHING. Please contact your supervisor about getting rid of Ray. Bad apples seem to contaminate all the apples around them sooner or later.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 02, 2013 - 11:23 am

    Marian--why is everything focused on Ray--shouldnt many people be looked at--and/or removed ?

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  • Rodney StanhopeMay 02, 2013 - 12:08 pm

    First of all marian (Not your real name!) - You obviously have your facts confused. I don't know who you are and don't care, but leave me out of your hater games. I am not a partner, nor had anything to do with fire tax, fire council, fire fee, pioneer fire district, or anything else. You have my number? Obviously not, but everyone else does, it's easy to find. Anyone can call me if they have questions. The fact that unlike you I'm not a hater and everyone knows they can always call me does not make me part of the "bad apples! So would you be talking about the little kid from Pollock Pines that shoveled snow for seniors at the mobile home park for free, or the kid that would bring hot cocoa to people stuck in the safeway parking lot when the freeway got closed for snow, or the kid that worked non stop since he was 12 or the Boy Scout later US Navy??

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  • Ken SteersMay 02, 2013 - 1:18 pm

    Rodney, As only a Wonk, Gadfly and local resident like myself, who has spent much time in politics. What is your take regarding Ray taking the JPA money

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  • James SmithMay 02, 2013 - 2:16 pm

    The City of Placerville is Broke and desperate to get its hands on any free grant money it can get.

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  • R SmithMay 02, 2013 - 2:42 pm

    There are those who think that Ray was paid to clear brush on his property, thus collecting a public benefit unto himself. Ray is not the enemy here, fire is. Fire could not care less on whose property it burns, who owns the land or where the property line is. Ray could just as well have been clearing brush anywhere. The fact that he cleared brush provides more protection for his neighbors, while extending the benefit well beyond any one property. Now that he has been drawn and quartered Ray might want to give some consideration about placing himself in loving care of those who have ascended to county sainthood. A start would be to follow supervisor Briggs lead and spend less time attending to his constituents needs, thus providing more time to pursue his own interests. That interest should include a bent knee approach and the desire for forgiveness from his agitator’s. Over time, a oneness could begin to set in, however, the devil is in the details. I’m sure our county’s most celebrated contract reader could help with any of those niggling questions. If you do not work on government, government will work on you. (R Smith 1992)

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 02, 2013 - 3:04 pm

    I still do not understand why the focus is on "just" Ray...why isnt the whole board being looked at? ( Just for letting in the New Economy alone.) Or that the BOS is giving away "free" money...Pollock pines has bread lines growing and Economic groups are collecting this "free" money for highway markers--and signs...we now have so many signs--reading them would cause an accident. Yet CEDAPP just received more money from BOS--$5000.00. So from my point of view--Santiago should be looked at for allowing CEDAPP to do this in our community. Their focus is now on trails--instead of food and jobs. Like I said--maybe the poor can use these trails when they cant afford any housing any more--they can push their last belongings out to...oh wait the state is doing this all over. Marketing a place for grant money. Where is a grand jury when you need one? None of this is legal...they are non profits--and some do not even have their 501 docs.

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  • 57ChevyMay 02, 2013 - 5:06 pm

    Walking Tall has the right solution with all the GOB ducks in a row: "It's time, way past time to rid our county of Ray and all of his crime partners; Chris, Dan, Rod just to name a few...The right thing to do is for Ray to just step down and save this county money and not add to the millions he has already cost us." BTW, the movie Walking Tall was on TV the other night (in Spanish). Bottom line: walk softly but carry a BIG STICK (or 2x4)!!!

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  • 1036-FrankMay 02, 2013 - 5:23 pm

    The facts are that the issue was a public official voting to benefit his property and has been caught and the reason is he didn't abstain from the vote and didn't disclose his benefit or income afterwards. It has nothing to do with other people on the BOS. I will also suggest strongly that now would be a great time for Nuttin to resign and an election should be held this fall for a replacement.

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  • Rodney StanhopeMay 02, 2013 - 5:28 pm

    Look 57Chevy, Walking Tall & Marian. Quit being Idiots. I'm not one of Ray's Team. Ask Turnboo. He'll set you straight. Now quit putting my name in here. I'm not in your pathetic hate squad or GOB club.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 02, 2013 - 5:57 pm

    1036-Frank...I agree to an point. while everything is focused on how or what Ray did--there are issues that are just as important not being looked at. This makes Ray look like a sacrificial lamb...I just dont see looking at just one of the board. People keep bringing up other supers...and each time that happens--blogs go back to Ray. Im still interested in the grand jury, Kim Kerr, why Briggs and Veercamp are mention at times...If Ray is being looked at--thats one issue down...what about the others? I have noticed a pattern--when certain items or people are brought up--distractions in blog form come in--interesting.

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  • Compass2TruthMay 02, 2013 - 6:27 pm

    In the game of chess you have to consider the function and strategy of all the players on the EDC chess board. Francesca is absolutely right. This isn't just about Ray--it's about how the GOB political game is played by the entire BOS, DA, Grand Jury, Auditor, CAO, etc. Each move on the chess board creates a domino effect impacting a multitude of issues and players. Someone is going down, and as the truth comes to light Ray's fall will inevitably take others down with him.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 02, 2013 - 6:34 pm

    What is the prupose of having someone come up with a time period--if they just intend to extend it? up coming BOS agenda: Chief Administrative Office recommending the Board consider the reappointment of community members to a one-year term on the Community and Economic Development Advisory Committee (CEDAC) as follows: 1) Reappoint member Roberta Long, District IV, to a one (1) year term effective May 11, 2013, expiring on May 10, 2014; 2) Reappoint the following At-Large Members: Mark Nava and Danny Shilin to a one (1) year term effective May 11, 2013, expiring on May 10, 2014; 3) Reappoint Jeanne Harper, District V, to a one (1) year term effective June 27, 2013 to June 26, 2014; and 4) Reappoint Michael Ranalli, At-Large Member, to a one (1) year term effective June 27, 2013 to June 26, 2014. People agreed on one year--then it should be one year--so that others can give their opinion--unless it isnt really about a whole community speaking up.

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  • 57ChevyMay 02, 2013 - 6:42 pm

    Rodney you're too close to the forest to see the trees. We can see right through you. It's about time you grow up and quit your pathetic whining.

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  • Rodney StanhopeMay 02, 2013 - 11:08 pm

    So let's see some of you actually are upset over the Ray Nutting Issue, but unfortunately your cause is being hijacked by some simple haters with no real purpose except to attack people... The who is irrelevant. Thank You to 57Chevy, Marian, and Walking Tall for proving your worthlessness. If your concern was Ray then you would not be so easily swayed into attacking me, who has nothing to do with this! I wasn't even working or living in this county when this stuff occurred... Not that any of that matters to you! You just like to spend your time attacking whoever.. At least Steers & Garon provide interesting banter. You are just a waste esp. Marian & 57Chevy. To the rest of you like frances, 1036-Frank, and Compass2Truth thank you all for actual enlightening information. I knew nothing about this till someone called me about my name being posted. Been busy working and don't watch local news.

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  • NancyMay 02, 2013 - 10:44 pm

    I agree with Frances. Take a look at the whole Board.

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  • EvelynMay 07, 2013 - 7:24 pm

    At today's BOS meeting Ray Nutting's legal counsel submitted documents in response to accusations made against Supervisor Nutting. "BACKGROUND RESEARCH ON NUTTING RANCH COST-SHARING GRANTS" - HERE

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  • EvelynMay 07, 2013 - 7:26 pm

    "EXHIBITS 1-24: Documents referred to in the background research on the Nutting Ranch Cost-Sharing program." - HERE

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  • EvelynMay 07, 2013 - 7:29 pm


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  • EvelynMay 07, 2013 - 7:32 pm

    The three documents (above) can be found at

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 07, 2013 - 7:46 pm

    okay Evelyn before I read all this...this is what I thought before hand. Researching grants, I found that Ray did not do anything that any one else could have done. He is a property owner--that pays taxes, therefore he is entitled to the same grants as any one else. So now--lets see what all these papers have to say.

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  • francescaduchamp@att.netMay 07, 2013 - 8:01 pm

    Okay so we are done with can we move on to what happened to the Grand Jury?

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  • Rodney StanhopeMay 07, 2013 - 8:55 pm

    WOW Thank You Evelyn - I just read the papers and as Fran pointed out I also did my own Grant Research & Agree - It appears this truly just a witch hunt & has no basis - So It appears this goes along the lines of any grant from any Gov agency... Which I used once when I bought my first home in South Sac as a fixer upper and got a Grant to weatherize (Dual Pane windows, Insulation, Heater Wrap, Etc.) They gave me the check and I did most of the work myself. I sense a lynching party skulking away now??

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  • EvelynMay 07, 2013 - 8:59 pm

    Apologies for the double set of postings. Didn't realize there was an item scheduled for print tomorrow.

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  • Walking TallMay 08, 2013 - 9:39 am

    Show us the real documents, the Forester's plan, the application, the bills submitted and all supporting documents. Be sure that you don't leave anything out like the ammended 700 reporting and billings, thanks Ray...

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  • 1036-FrankMay 08, 2013 - 10:29 am

    This issue seems to be not being reported on in this paper timely as new developments arise, including a release of documents and a story on CBS 13. I read in the documents some defense attorney issued statements in a letter and their belief that Nuttin was acting as a private citizen and as any citizen could. That is an issue for a Jury trial for the simple reason the vote to fund the district where the grants came from was held at the BOS and to my knowledge, Nuttin did not abstain from voting to fund the district which he knew or should of known would benefit his property via the prop. 40 grant application, which, in my opinion, is an overt act by a public official for their benefit. I have read through the released documents, many from Calfire, and read the attorney prepared Joe citizen defense which is presented which might of been possible if the public official had excused himself from the funding vote which, I understand, funded the grants being sought and for the benefit to their property.

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  • marianMay 10, 2013 - 1:34 pm

    Rodney, it seems you protest a little too much. It's on Ray's Facebook page that you are helping with his public event to help him salvage his reputation with the public. And you are always at his events. So let's dispense with all the self-serving blather that you have nothing to do with him. We KNOW, Rodney. And also, if Ray is so innocent, why does he have a criminal defense attorney instead of one who specializes in FPPC regs or land use? And why is Ray having a public event? It seems he is really worried, and with good reason.

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