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Supes OK $280k to promote county: $100k for Website that will sell advertising

From page A1 | July 19, 2013 | 36 Comments

On Tuesday, the El Dorado County Board of Supervisors approved spending $280,000 to help promote the county.

Recommended by the County Economic Development Advisory Committee, one of the recommendations approved by the board was $80,000 for a mini-grant program. The grants would be awarded for up to $5,000 for cultural and community development projects. Half of the $80,000 would come from carryover funds from the 2012-13 year; the other $40,000 would be from 2013-2014 funds.

The program goal would be to encourage tourism, agriculture and economic development in the county by supporting promotional, cultural and community activities. Nonprofit organizations would be eligible for funding. Individuals, for-profit organizations and political groups would not.

Supervisors Ron Mikulaco and Brian Veerkamp volunteered to serve on the subcommittee to review the grant applications. Their recommendations would be presented to the full board for approval.

The board also approved spending $100,000 for a grant development program. Proposals would be sought to address different grant related support services including funding needs analysis, grant research, grant proposal development, grant administration and reporting, as well as training in preparing comprehensive grant proposals. The areas included in the program would be history, arts and culture, community planning, public facilities and maintenance, public health/mental health, economic development, identification and design, transportation infrastructure and planning, social services, law enforcement and technology development.

Another proposal approved was spending $100,000 to develop a Web portal that would serve as a “launching point or gateway to all the assets and resources available in the County of El Dorado.” Included in the project would be creating a mobile app to provide updates on county events. Assets would include businesses and restaurants, tourism and recreation opportunities, employment information and real estate services. The target audience would be people interested in living, working or recreating in the county. Ongoing expenses related to running the portal would come from the advertising on the portal.

All $280,000 comes from the hotel tax.

Most of those speaking on the different proposals were enthusiastic supporters. Michael Ranalli, a member of the County Economic Development Advisory Committee, said the different proposals would help market El Dorado County and he encouraged the board to move forward on them.

Davey “Doc” Wiser was first in line to ask for a grant, saying he’d use it to offer stagecoach rides. “I’d show you where every penny went,” he said, adding the money would go to a good cause.

Jeanne Harper, a community activist in Pollock Pines, suggested that the Web portal would help connect different communities in the county while Linnea Marenco, a member of the Divide Chamber of Commerce, urged the board to adopt the proposals to attract more people to visit the county and especially communities on the Divide.

The lone voice speaking against the proposals was resident Sue Taylor, who objected to the county paying for the project, saying private industry should do it. She suggested the county stop collecting the hotel tax and allow hotels to keep the money to market their own businesses. She also cautioned the board that the grants might become, in her words, “an incubator for cronyism.”

Taylor also criticized the idea of a Web portal, saying the county was prepared to spend $100,000 on one when there were people in the county doing it for free. She also cautioned the county about getting into the marketing of businesses.

However, board members were supportive of the proposals although they suggested some changes to the grant application and process to ensure more accountability.

With that, the board voted unanimously to adopt all of the proposals.

According to staff, the Request for Proposals for the grants, Web portal and grant development programs were expected to be released July 17 with proposals due back Aug. 21.

Contact Dawn Hodson at 530-344-5071 or Follow @DHodsonMtDemo on Twitter


Discussion | 36 comments

  • Phil VeerkampJuly 18, 2013 - 12:18 pm

    "The lone voice speaking against the proposals was resident Sue Taylor who objected to the county paying for the project . . ." Sue, you old stick-in-the-mud!

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  • FranJuly 18, 2013 - 1:23 pm

    Web making is free on-line...if they need to give away money--let the high school students do the web portal--even their own presentation had a slide from a kid--kids are trained to do web sites. Why is the BOS listening to people who do not know what they are talking about? It is making the BOS look like they can not think for themselves. "Jeannie Harper, a community activist in Pollock Pines, ..." Harper doesnt work with the community...she works with a group within the community...and writes slanted letters. Many do not know who she is...or what CEDAPP is...

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  • FranJuly 18, 2013 - 1:36 pm

    All the places across the United States that went bankrupt--have a web portal the time stamps their downfall--listening to Economic development groups...pick a city that is now broke and look at their portals...Marketing tourism...bikes and trails...grants...New Economy...yep--they are using the correct check off sheet. Stockton Launches Powerful Website to Grow Economy Department: Economic Development The City of Stockton’s Economic Development Department announces the launch of a powerful new website,, that instantaneously provides valuable information for site selectors, real estate developers, and businesses pursuing new opportunities in Stockton.For more information, please see the Full News Release. STOCKTON IS BROKE

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  • FranJuly 18, 2013 - 1:38 pm

    Stockton, CA: One Of America's Most Miserable Cities Just Got More Miserable

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  • FranJuly 18, 2013 - 2:46 pm

    27 mins ago...Once-mighty Motor City files for bankruptcy... have a very nice web portal...(shaking head) does any one in our government read outside of this county? Paying attention CEDEC ?

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  • FranJuly 18, 2013 - 2:47 pm wonder through their site...check out their marketing for tourism...

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  • StanSmithJuly 18, 2013 - 3:49 pm

    The County just spent $5.6 Million for a piece of software that can only handle a 4-Digit account number. For Christ Sakes, my $39 Quicken program handles larger account numbers than that! People do not have faith in the County's computer decisions as of late.

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  • EvelynJuly 18, 2013 - 4:08 pm

    Stan: Several months ago these pages were clogged with people telling us how much the county needed the IT upgrade. I have no idea whatsoever how badly it was needed and won't argue the point. But needing/wanting something is not the same as having made a competent analysis. When decision-making day came at BOS, there was a loooooooong lineup of VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE praising to the skies the Tyler Technologies produce the county was about to commit to. Unfortunately, not one of those VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE gave the slightest indication of having done any independent research. They all just sang the Hallelujah Chorus. And the Board said Amen.

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  • EvelynJuly 18, 2013 - 4:10 pm

    Scratch Tyler Technologies "produce". Insert "product".

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  • EvelynJuly 18, 2013 - 4:13 pm

    P.S. Some of the same people who lined up -- they're reliably available for most major decisions -- to praise Tyler Technologies also gave their stamp of approval on this giveaway.

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  • Web site competition bids?July 19, 2013 - 5:51 am

    I LINK - I propose this web site It only took an hour or so, it could be better with a week, but 100 grand for a weeks worth of work would be exciting! Potential Graphic Artists are so excited that EDCBOS's are so inept and corrupt! Don't forgeet to drink you 8 glasses of water from the EDC water board! I think they lace it with the same drug Germans fell under to allow Hitler to rise up!

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  • Web site competition bids?July 19, 2013 - 5:52 am

    in case the link don't work

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  • EvelynJuly 19, 2013 - 6:03 am

    Web site competition bids? (above) Great photo!!!

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  • EvelynJuly 19, 2013 - 6:10 am

    P.S. Your link doesn't work. Fix it before collecting $100K.

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  • Web CompetitionJuly 19, 2013 - 6:23 am

    should work now, thanks Evelyn

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 8:01 am

    RE: "" - On a scale with "immoral" on one extreme and "moral" on the other extreme I sometimes wonder how I would position "Eminent domain" and "Occupy".

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  • Web CompetitionJuly 19, 2013 - 8:17 am

    Well Phil, I'm still thinking about this deep proverb. While it has been found that inability to identify sarcasm is a sign of dementia, I'm not sure there is sarcasm here. On the other hand, I am not finding any of the quotes to reference from. The statement is open to all 22 or so fallacies to run the imagination wild! However, I can answer the "eminent domain" "position I would take"quote from a constitutional standpoint. Let's say you offended Ray Nutting, by pointing out public record. And then next month the county grabbed 10 feet of your front yard, in fact, all the people on your side of the street lost 10 feet. But then you find out that they only took 5 feet of the guys property across the street. Where your civil rights violated? Furthermore, the "Occupy" position I would take, perhaps, can end your "wondering" on the subject of occupy. Occupy associated one percent of the population that "corporations where creating injustice" i.e. "inequality" a violation of the 14th amendment. However, I don't think they connected those dots constitutionally. My take on this is somewhat different. I think only .01% screw up our country and that Wall street is only acting within the parameters of the "Commerce Clause" of the Constitution as interpreted by compliance of Alden v. Maine U.S. 1999. This may seem vague, but it has volumes of support, whereas, all the so called 99%'rs assumed Wall Street could somehow cause those in control of the Commerce Clause to act in compliance to the 14th amendment.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 8:38 am

    Web, thank you for a substantive response to my muse. I wonder. Do can you attach a number to another of my musings? How many degrees of separation are there between "occupy" and "vigilantism"? . . . further . . . How many degrees of separation are there between "occupy" and "neighborhood watch"? . . . and lastly . . . How many degrees of separation are there between "occupy" and "Arab spring"?

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  • Web CompetitionJuly 19, 2013 - 11:12 am

    the is not your dads old buick! Has nothing to do with the equivocated group campouts. Occupy Placerville, is the birth place of a solution to end corruption substantially, due to the fact that their county attorney defended corrupt acts, not with meritorious ability to dispute the claims, but with 11th that according to the Supreme Court, they are not entitled to. How do they do it? They simply ignore the Supreme Court, and the Judges acquiesce to it. It is unfortunate, but the byproduct forced the issue which ahs resulted in a possible solution nationally. Which is to stop focusing on minutia corruption and end the eleventh amendment that legalizes corruption according to Bogan v. Scott-Harris U.S. 1998. Not only was Gold discovered here, but a viable solution has been exposed by EDC, creating a simple optimal solution that victims of abuse can actually find tangible, in lieu of status quo futility trying to reckon with corrupt pigs. Now I know what that 60's term actually means. In recent Norse v. Santa Cruz, the Supreme Court rejected the argument by Santa Cruz county officials who were reminded that they are liable for "ad hoc" abuse of Power when Robert Norse associated the arbitrary acts of county board of supervisors as "Nazi's." The Supreme court rejected the counties appeal, not for being "Nazi's" but for abusing their power under the color of law for treating people unequally. It appears that El Dorado County Counsel has failed to advise county officials that denying equal services abrogates immunity. Right now, it doesn't matter, because recent cases show that they have a few Judges who by pass the Supreme Court knowing that the cost of appeal allows the abuse to continue. It's going to take some really sharp individuals to form a group who are aware of the substantial motivating factors that can unseat the right of corruption to seem eternal. Yet there is a constitutional Amendment that legalizes corruption. The amendment is 200 years old. What it did was do what the Constitution said was impossible, or better stated, "Inalienable." The Eleventh Amendment, inarguably "abridged the right of a citizen to redress of grievances." Plain and simple, and no argument can dispute this. If a citizen from another state is barred from suing the state, that "abridges" the right. Thus, no remedy, no right, no right no constitution, or a useless constitution is the result. Clearly the First Amendment says, "Congress shall make no law...abridging the right to redress of grievances." The very first law congress made was to abridge the right of redress, because in 1795, Congress members, and their supporters where being sued for breach of war debt contracts. Debtors prison was the alternative, and the Pennsylvania bankruptcy act required that a debtors ear be severed from his head. Today all kinds of artful rhetoric is used to justify it with theories, yet for it to be legal, it has to be in line with the first amendment, thus this conundrum will eventually be overturned. I have not met anybody who is aware of this history, even though the history is available in court cases and many other historical documents. I often wonder how Paul Revere's ride was more historically important than the Amendment that legalized corruption as if nobody was aware. There is a categorical syllogism that this follows under. World wide the deception is that USA has abandoned this doctrine. Yet the history leaves USA with egg on its face. Possibly the meaning of "scrambled eggs" you see on the bills of high ranking military officers dress hats. One thing for sure is, the Eleventh Amendment does protect the government, "If corrupt..." (Bogan infra), from the people. Similarly, USSR and Fidel Castro's constitutions protects their officials allowing the punishment of those who object to abuse power. In USA it is more subtle, you have to experience it one you may! Did everybody allready know this stuff, and I was the last to know? If so, why does this not shock your conscience?

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 8:40 am

    OOPS! ~~~strike "Do"~~~ Too much musing . . .

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  • cookie65July 19, 2013 - 10:03 am

    I remember the 99%. No better example of the new math, where 6,000 in a city of 8 million was equal to 99%. I always thought it curious how a tiny sliver of them attempted to claim their protests were about jobs being shipped over seas yet they all brought their tents, sleeping bags backpacks and campstoves made in china.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 10:39 am

    Cookie, back in 2011 I spent a lot of time browsing and posting on multiple OWS sites. I can't count the times that my call for unambiguous denunciation of and expulsion of BLACK BLOC were responded to by my being banned from commenting. OWS's response to criticism was/is banning. Their assertions of "non violent" protest are a lie. Occupy's end is global revolution. The Middle East is occupy. OccupyPlacerville seems distant from Egypt. OK, then unambiguously denounce Black Bloc. Condemn Occupy Oakland. Condemn every Occupy movement where Black Bloc shows it ugly face.

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  • cookie65July 19, 2013 - 11:27 am

    Phil, back when I used to comment on Fencepost (huffpo) I made the identical comment as my 10:03 comment and was banned once more from the purveyors of tolerance and diversity. Occupy condones violence as a means of achieving economic justice. Trashing and looting someone's neighborhood store as a mob is much easier than getting a job. Especially in this obamaeconomy. The reality of the occupy parasites is they have no desire to do what their parents and grandparents did. Which is start at the bottom and build a life for yourself. The wealth they expected obama to confiscate and share with them belongs to their parents and grandparents. They understood hope and change to mean obama was going to be very generous with other peoples money and the leftists media encouraged them to believe it. He was going to "spread" the wealth. They have learned from the communists running the education system that it is the job of government to provide for them. And anyone who stands between them and other peoples money is regressive and a hater.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 11:42 am

    Any - repeat ANY cause/organization with "occupy" in it's title needs to be judged guilty until demonstrated innocent. Their "direct democracy" GAs (general assemblys) (twinkies up - twinkies down) clap trap were an absolute JOKE. Confiscation and redistribution is a guaranteed path to universal poverty - proven time and time again - at the cost of millions upon millions of murders. FUK OCCUPY!

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  • occupy placerville is not occupyJuly 19, 2013 - 11:54 am

    The occupyplacerville site has nothing to do with the occupy movement, the site was hijacked from their delusion and replaced with a focus on looking at laws that allow corruption to go undeterred. Occupy has never connected those dots. As a matter of fact, most people have no clue that laws exist in the USA solely to legalalize corruption so that people in government will not lose their assets if caught. Some support this theory, while others suggest that supporting theories that diminish justice and encourage corruption is far more destructive. The latter is tested and does not chill rights, but punishes offenders and encourages compliance to law. Occupy Placerville web site creates this awareness. An awareness that is otherwise obscure and remains out of the debate as a cause and effect for such a pernicious right. I agree, the occupy wall street was a major off point debacle and socialist attack by the have nots against the haves. I premise the abuse by wall street, authorized by Congress and Senate through the Commerce Clause. The Banks for instance, are granted immunity when Congress refunds them with tax dollars for ripping us off. Wall Street is just taking advantage of what the law givers allow them too, thus we should occupy the Constitution and get rid of

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  • FranJuly 19, 2013 - 12:13 pm

    Phil...I do not know anything about occupy I am not getting involved. I do understand the issue of the film industry...and had many of my friends help Placerville win this honor--I felt I owed it to them. Im hoping they go with he Kinkade theme--so I can talk about the DuChampian influence behind Kinkade s work...every artist has a past.

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  • FranJuly 19, 2013 - 12:15 pm

    Phil...just as you have rightfully defended the Veerkamp name...I have to defend the DuChamp name...the library made fun of the name...I have not forgotten.

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  • Kathleen NewellJuly 19, 2013 - 12:52 pm

    "Ongoing expenses related to running the portal would come from the advertising on the portal." I hope this is not the case. I do not recall discussion at the Board of Supervisors (BOS) meeting regarding participants having to pay for being on this site. It was proposed as an all inclusive 'one stop info' access site for everything El Dorado County, not a pay to play site. Also, the original intent of this new portal was presented at a March 25, 2013 BOS meeting by the Community and Economic Development Advisory Committed (CEDAC) as part of a LUPPU (General Plan) update. In their presentation, it was referred to as the El Dorado County Web Portal, a "Doorway to Our County." It was supposed to somehow tie in with CEDAC's Community Identity goals too, as well as the Live, Work, Play theme (Learn has been added since the March presentation). Since then, it's morphed into a different animal, and it is still morphing. The Request For Proposal states: Scope of Services: The project objective is to create a web portal that will serve as a “launching point” or gateway to all the assets and resources available in the County of El Dorado. Assets and resources include such things as businesses and restaurants, tourism and recreation opportunities, employment information, and real estate services. The target audience for the web portal includes those who are interested in living, working, or recreating in the County of El Dorado. El Dorado County already has a very decent portal site called (a private business). We also have a County funded portal site called the El Dorado County Visitors Authority which already has all the stuff this new 100k portal site is supposed to have. Please take a couple minutes to check out the sites. Both very portal looking with lots of links to hook you up with anything in El Dorado County. When I first learned about this new portal idea, it sounded like a good idea because I assumed it was being proposed because it had not been done yet. I didn't know we already had two portal sites in existence. I did the research today and now oppose it. Bottom line is the 100k the County is spending for this new portal will be duplicating something we already have. Why?

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 5:58 pm

    HEY Colonel, let's u and me lobby the BOS to scratch the portal and instead donate th' loot to Detroit (and th' Prez). After all he made such an issue over Romney's position on Detroit. It's kinda embarrassing to have Romney right. Right?

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  • James E.July 19, 2013 - 7:40 pm

    Phil, BOS not giving up any money so nothing to send to Detroit. Romney? I've put him out of my mind -- but now that you remind me, boy, did we dodge a bullet.

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 7:53 pm

    Too bad Obama broke another campaign promise, James. I bet Detroit get's a big heart felt apology from th' prez. What do you think?

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  • James E.July 19, 2013 - 7:55 pm

    Phil, what was the campaign promise?

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  • Phil VeerkampJuly 19, 2013 - 7:59 pm

    I Think Romney (not positive here) was proffering the wisdom of a structured bankruptcy for Detroit. Obama said it was crazy. Promised no such thing if he were prez.

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  • James E.July 19, 2013 - 8:08 pm

    Phil, I think Romney didn't want to bail out the car companies, instead he wanted them to go bankrupt. So, it was car companies and not the City of Detroit.

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  • James E.July 19, 2013 - 8:18 pm

    OK, I didn't get to take a nap today so I'm going now to take a nap before bedtime. I deserve it.

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  • Ty RobbenJuly 20, 2013 - 6:41 pm

    I have 2 websites that get from 100 hits to 500 hits a day and peaks of over 1,000 hits in a day. My websites have no advertising other than the wordpress ads. With all the corruption in El Dorado county, I will be forming a new website to draw in the traffic. I will offer free ads to all local El Dorado county businesses that support my efforts and spread the word about local movements to restore credibility to El Dorado County government.

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