Comments on: The Federal Reserve and the American mind

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 05:26:29 +0000

LINK - Federal Reserve allows Chinese-controlled banks to take stakes in US banks

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 05:25:52 +0000

LINK - The Federal Reserve's New Policies Look Alarmingly Chinese

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 05:25:17 +0000

LINK - How China Is Driving Federal Reserve Policy

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 02:06:01 +0000

“320 IS NOT A CONSENSUS” – You don’t reasonably suppose the military might send around a questionnaire to all former and presently serving officers. Indeed, let’s workshop the matter!!! ********** I’m finished now. My contribution is totally worn out, and most likely in the process I’ve worn out everyone here.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:49:13 +0000

About those “screens-full of information”. I just did a quick check. About 200 screens. But doing a lazy ramble is quite interesting.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:44:31 +0000

I’m getting too excited. spell check: (1) … TOO lazy to go; (2) PEOPLE, not peopole

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:41:25 +0000

James, peruse the website. Detailed info on each individual is provided. I haven’t read all the biographies because I am simply to lazy to go through so many screens-full of information. But at a reasonable guess, most/many are retired. It’s easier to be courageous in retirement. Nothing about the military or society in general encourages peopole to speak their minds. Simply consider what happens to whistle blowers. Freedom of speech is long dead and gone, minus a respectful funeral service.

By: James E.

James E. — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 01:35:25 +0000

Phil, you are correct, officer strength is around 200K, so 320 is not a consensus. Evelyn, wonder how many of the 320 are retired and how many are active duty? Guessing that most are retired.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:41:47 +0000

Gotta laugh. This website allows PANTLOAD but screens out D*CK.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:38:25 +0000

. . . So, let me make sure I’m properly understanding. 320 former US Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force & Coast Guard Commissioned & Non-Commissioned Officers are “the masses”, for whom PANTLOAD is applicable?

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:31:36 +0000

99.99& of truthers understand PANTLOAD. Only .01% of truthers understand de rigueur. I was attempting to reach the masses.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:19:52 +0000

Please don't use such big words. I had to look up PANTLOAD. When did rudeness become de rigueur?

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:15:01 +0000

No, 0.16% means nothing of the sort!!! What it DOES mean is that 320 military officers have had the courage to identify themselves publicly with the call for a new 911 investigation. Definitely not a strategic career move.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:09:11 +0000

In no way preempting Col Longhofer: (1) The answer is: Infinitesimally small. (2) That's hardly the point. (3) Peruse the list of signatories (the above is an active link). (4) Unintentionally, I misrepresented the signatories. They do NOT say that 911 was an inside job. Rather, following on 6 "Whereas" statements, the well identified currently serving and former US Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force & Coast Guard Commissioned & Non-Commissioned Officers “petition the Congress of the United States for a new and independent investigation into the events of 9/11/01 by a duly constituted legal body with the authority to subpoena and require testimony under oath, and with authority to prosecute if criminal activity is discovered, so that the perpetrators of these crimes against humanity can at last be brought to justice.”

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:05:11 +0000

Using Evelyn’s data along with 201,730 (http://usmilitary.about.com/od/promotions/l/blofficerprom.htm) it seems that 0.16% of the US military officer corps believe that 9/11 was an inside job. It seems final. Since 99.84% do not believe 9/11 was an inside job the question is resolved. TRUTHERS ARE A PANTLOAD! – QED

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 23:43:35 +0000

Colonel, 320 military officers would equal what percentage of the military officer corps?

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 23:27:36 +0000

chrispy: Your wife's opinion is shared by over 320 U.S. Military Officers.

By: Catherine

Catherine — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:42:53 +0000

Foaming, You’ll need to write a book, first.

By: Foaming at the Mouth

Foaming at the Mouth — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 22:33:59 +0000

Hey, I have a load of batstuff crazy ideas, too! When’s Dawn gonna interview me and chrispy?

By: chrispy

chrispy — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:31:50 +0000

hey phil, my spouse is a Captain in the U.S. Army. she will be the first to tell you 911 was an inside job. How come there has not been a single terrorist attack on our soil since 911? Do you really think it is our vigilance that is preventing this?

By: Catherine

Catherine — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:06:56 +0000

Ah, yes… hate to see Little Phil be in charge… But somehow, other countries have managed with nat’l banking , if imperfectly.

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:03:40 +0000

FOUND IT! – the much quoted – The Right’s Fairy Tale Does Have a Modicum of Truth
This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and
has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some
extent, in the way the … Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which
we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the
Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this
network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the
early 1960′s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most
of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments.
I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies (notably to its belief
that England was an Atlantic rather than a European Power and must be allied, or even
federated, with the United States and must remain isolated from Europe), but in general
my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role
in history is significant enough to be known. – LINK – T&H – page 786

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:36:49 +0000

“This front organization, called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as its nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a front for J. P. Morgan and Company … .” ~ T&H, pg. 788

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:27:49 +0000

Catherine, the thought of the democratization of monetary policy/strategy is more than I can bare. Imagine the human circulatory system being subjected to a vote of the constituents – one brain – two hands – two feet . . . The brain would lose more than win . . . especially with us men . . .

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:24:12 +0000

“The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.” ~ Tragedy and Hope, pgs. 277-278

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:10:43 +0000

Quigley’s densely packed T&H is impossible for me to take in minus electronic search. Much easier than reading consecutively pgs. 1-1090!

By: Catherine

Catherine — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:09:22 +0000

Phil, I’d prefer that banking be nationalized. The Fed is a cartel, but in the strictest sense, most governments function as cartels. I’d just prefer the benefits being less concentrated.

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:01:25 +0000

TRIVIA President Clinton was one of Quigley's students.

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:00:09 +0000

Evelyn, thank you very much for the Tragedy and Hope, A History of Our Time PDF link. I played for a while with a word search “conspiracy”. YES, they do exist. We are left to winnow wheat from chaff.

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:47:51 +0000

Catherine you speculate, “ . . . may have contributed to greater prosperity and comfort for Americans, and whether that approach is sustainable.” – Spot on! I would add that the creation of the FED has lead to greater prosperity for the entire planet. Sustainability? Only by periodic deflations will the compounding of the money function be sustained. These “periodic deflations” will always be perceived as theft, graft and corruption and assigned to conspiratorial machinations.

By: James E.

James E. — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:45:55 +0000

Ms. Hodson, you might reconsider jumping into the quicksand of reader comments. Once in, it is an inevitable process of being consumed.

By: Dawn Hodson

Dawn Hodson — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:30:57 +0000

These articles are based on interviews with Griffin and Rickards. They are not book reviews. Their books were referenced to establish them as qualified to speak on the subject.

By: Catherine

Catherine — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:27:53 +0000

I mean the Fed has enabled an unnatural kind of stability. Not a personal preference or viewpoint, but if you’re reporting on the fed, you have to look at how the controls it enables have provided foundations for growth that we might not have otherwise enjoyed. I’m just saying you’d have to look at many facets.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:19:21 +0000

Catherine, I’m not sure I’m following you when you say “having this control may have contributed to greater prosperity and comfort for Americans … .” Do you mean the Federal Reserve has brought the country greater prosperity?

By: Catherine

Catherine — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:12:16 +0000

Evelyn, regarding offering differing viewpoints, I do wish that MD made more effort in that direction (although it would spoil some of my fun, as I already read lots of news that is based on those pesky things called facts). So how might they offer alternative ideas? I think, investigate one area, present facts from named sources, develop a balanced argument, etc. It’s hard. The Federal is a terrific subject for this. One part you’d need to consider is how having this control may have contributed to greater prosperity and comfort for Americans, and whether that approach is sustainable.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:12:11 +0000

"Tragedy and Hope, A History of Our Time" by Carroll Quigley: HERE (1090 pages)

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:01:04 +0000

Evelyn, perhaps Dawn will do a review TRAGEDY AND HOPE. I've managed about 5% of Quigley's eye glazer. Understanding history and the interplay of monetary practices with history is hard work.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:57:32 +0000

** By AND large . . .

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:53:38 +0000

. . . Evelyn thinking . . . By an large true investigative journalism exists only on the margins. The value I would place on this series is that it does place for public consideration ideas not commonly expressed in the media.

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:48:35 +0000

Catherine, I can hardly wait for part three. Perhaps Dawn will do a flash-back back to an earlier iteration of the conspiracy genre to the classic, LINK - None Dare Call It Conspiracy IMHO, she should go all the way back to the founding document, the protocols.

By: Catherine

Catherine — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:45:49 +0000

But Evelyn, this is a book report, with no investigation, no critical thinking and no real factual contribution. I don’t know if Ms Hudson likes to present columns like this, or the editors make her. But this is not journalism.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:36:42 +0000

Catherine, in the 2nd para. Dawn Hodson writes: “most of the wars America has found itself in have been about economics, not ideology”, which goes to your point. Yes, an entire report could be written on the subject alone.

By: Catherine

Catherine — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:19:59 +0000

I just love that the MD offers a book review as news. This is the kind of editorial perspective that makes the paper so very special. I hope they’ll do “Ecotopia” next. The sad part is, there are interesting facts that the paper could report describing how wars are driven by economic interests, far more than ethical or moral causes. But the MD would find those ideas too liberal. Paradoxical, eh?

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:44:19 +0000

chrispy, your assignment is due 12/07/2012, 07:55 AM. in order to save the conspiracy industry from a date with infamy.

By: prime time

prime time — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 13:33:11 +0000

Speculation in the 17th century was a crime. Speculators were hanged. Today they run the state and the financial markets.

By: James E.

James E. — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 04:51:10 +0000

I never did like Jeopardy. The TV show, not our commenter named Jeopardy.

By: alec

alec — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:34:25 +0000

u must furst say how many points u want for the kassle

By: Jeopardy

Jeopardy — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:13:07 +0000

What is Hearst Castle?

By: alec

alec — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:24:04 +0000

for 400 points name the two main countres in the spanish American war and why did president mackinley sink maine.

By: Jeopardy

Jeopardy — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 00:20:23 +0000

Alex, I’ll take the Spanish American War for 400 points.