Comments on: Undersheriff takes aim at OT

By: Walking Tall

Walking Tall — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:09:07 +0000

What really makes one wonder si when the US says that “no one was watching the overtime” when the payroll department prints out a spread sheet monthly with all of the overtime used by personnel and shows a graph with it. Just like the things he claims are because of this new adminstration, when in fact they already existed. Guess he has to claim something so it doesn’t look like what it is; “Smoke n Mirrors”

By: Tonto

Tonto — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 05:36:00 +0000

Funny how most forgot about the things the new sheriff was going to do and how the number of employees and the amount of budget has changed. The Dipolma/Sex gates were swept under the carpet along with all those who retired and the new promotions all of which could/would have saved more than the suggested money saved by the US. Again a bait n switch from where most sit, but then it was just a campaign idea anyway so whose looking now–Tax Payers—
Well some get it and are not looking the other way, but then again we won’t ever see any changes as that “New Broom and the clean sweep” did not happen and never will.. So lets see how much all the top heavy New GOB’s get in their pay checks and then subtract that from the money so called saved and learn the real figures. Remember the indians were told it would be a better life on the reservation and we all know how that turned out. Take off the rose colored glasses and follow the money and we will all see beter and find the real truth.

By: James Smith

James Smith — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:09:35 +0000

Here’s another link for you Phil. Who’s the liar?

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=89445

By: James Smith

James Smith — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:07:34 +0000

EDC Sheriff’s used Diploma Mills to get raises.

http://www.laketahoenews.net/2012/07/two-edso-deputies-still-owe-pay-awarded-for-bogus-degrees/

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:12:35 +0000

Perhaps the “top of the heap” still has menial concerns. Evelyn may have to pick up the distress from which she was briefly relieved.

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:08:26 +0000

Why does James Smith
appear to lie?

By: James Smith misleading

James Smith misleading — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:04:08 +0000

Deputy sheriff’s start at about 25 dollars an hour with a max rate of 34 dollars an hour….they then pay about 600 dollars a month for family medical coverage, 500-600 a month in retirement contributions (which they volunteered to do to help with the fiscal crisis the county is facing). Most deputies also pay for extra converges such as long term disability and increased life insurance coverages due to the risks the job entails. Oh yeah taxes, probably 1500 a month. That leaves 3500-4000 for take home pay. About a thousand a week, not anymore than any other skilled trade such as an electrician or utility worker. James Smith give me a break with your inflated incorrect statistics you obtained from the lefty law and order hating Sacramento Bee (rag). Look at the county website under salary schedules if you don’t believe me. If you haven’t noticed the sacramento bee does not like family values, el dorado county, self reliant people and certainly not law enforcement. It’s called an agenda and they have one if you haven’t noticed. As for the sheriff he makes about 200k a year. Again look at the county website. He more than deserves this considering he runs a department of 400 employees and manages a budget of about 60 million dollars on average.

By: James Smith

James Smith — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:03:57 +0000

How many Sheriff’s are still being paid raises whom submitted phony Diploma Mill degrees a few years ago?

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:36:01 +0000

Oh, dear - yet again a liar! Bad 1:30 link. HERE

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:32:29 +0000

. . . and now I’m departing this exchange before it becomes uncivil!!!

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:30:15 +0000

On the off off chance — as in statistically remote — that you’re not being intentionally dense, ORDINARY was intended to distinguish everyone not having the staggering wealth of the rich and famous. Please don’t ask for a definition of “staggering wealth”. I’m trusting “ordinary” readers like yourself on this one. And, yes, I include El Dorado County’s “public servants” among the ORDINARY people. Unless, of course, there are some staggering salaries that taxpayers don’t yet know about. Which always is a possibility, what with black budgets and all.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:22:44 +0000

“Negotiate Your Way to a Higher Federal Salary” – It helps if hiring managers perceive you as dedicated to public service (sic). – http://career-advice.monster.com/salary-benefits/negotiation-tips/negotiate-a-higher-federal-salary/article.aspxHERE

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:16:10 +0000

Ahhh! I think I see. We have a difference of perception. It appears that to some, “ . . . common salaries such as those James Smith records . . . among ordinary people remains conspicuous.” Some assess people in law enforcement as “ordinary people”. I disagree. Instead of “ordinary” I would use the word “uncommon”. I am agnostic on the question of appropriate compensation for uncommon people as well as appropriate compensation for the “top of the heap” of uncommon managers and leaders.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:14:03 +0000

Good catch, Jim! It’s amazing what gets written without due consideration.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:12:32 +0000

SALARY NEGOTIATIONS: Known as The "Bible" of Salary Negotiations And The Cornerstone of Jack's "No Dollar Left Behind" Salary Negotiation Strategy - HERE ********** AKA "No taxpayer $ left behind - Qu'ils mangent de la brioche"

By: Jim Riordan

Jim Riordan — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:12:00 +0000

Evelyn, I respect your opinions. I’m sorry I just could not help myself . . all in jest . . . but when you wrote: “Presumably these people don’t lose a lot of sleep over rising water and sewer rates. Not lost on us is the regularity among several sectors” . . I just had to wonder if “regularity” would increase sewer rates . . . just kidding . . .

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:07:36 +0000

NEGOTIATING SALARY AND BENEFITS IN PUBLIC SERVICE CAREERS - HERE ********** The words "public service" should be stricken. Replace with TAXPAYER PAID.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:04:19 +0000

(2004) "Congress Votes Itself a $3,400 Pay Raise" - HERE

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:41:37 +0000

UGH! …disparities among ordinary people remain…

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 20:39:32 +0000

Mind boggling is how common salaries such as those James Smith records have become. While we’re generally inured to displays of staggering wealth by the rich and famous, disparities among ordinary people remains conspicuous. At the $300,000 level one can be said to be “at the top of the heap”. Presumably these people don’t lose a lot of sleep over rising water and sewer rates. Not lost on us is the regularity among several sectors with which those earning such amounts are able to leverage their positions to influence their salaries. Guess who pays. The economy has been transformed into a survival-of-the-fittest jungle. Many have been devoured.

By: Phil Veerkamp

Phil Veerkamp — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:23:30 +0000

Evelyn purports to be reassured (insert sarcasm?) that, ” . . . people at the top of the heap don’t have to struggle to pay their monthly water and sewer accounts.” I wonder. Would it also be reassuring if the “top of the heap” were a random distribution of brilliance and dullards, integrity and corruption, ambition and sloth, leaders and followers? Some may suggest that the “top of the heap” is exactly such a mix. If that is the case then take the staff budget, divide by the number of staff and hand out pay equally? Such an arrangement would do away with the chase for promotion and all that silliness. Each day/week staff could walk in, draw the duty assignment and head out to protect the community as best as they could. No bosses! Yippee!!! Social justice!!!

By: Jim Riordan

Jim Riordan — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:18:35 +0000

I agree Chuck, “Tail” and hopeful. I wonder how many of the complainers would or could work the hours, wrestle the bad guys, be on call, risk their lives to protect complainers, be available 24/7, wear heavy and burdensome uniforms and confront problems that most complainers could not deal with. Congrats Sheriff John and U.S Rich. Those who appreciate you far outweigh the complainers.

By: Chuck Holland

Chuck Holland — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:56:42 +0000

1 million or more taxpayer dollars saved. Job well done by everyone at EDSO.

By: 1036-Frank

1036-Frank — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:58:59 +0000

One of the things to do for every jurisdiction is to close the store front operations that sell dope and make an enormous amount of drug profit that fuel large scale growing for profit. A ruling from the Supreme Court on this issue is expected soon. The Cartel growers are a complete dangerous menace and tie in with the open border problems, failing to control one allows the other. The overtime use has been dealt with. The “Good ol’ Boys” in the department were never dealt with appropriately in 2008 when the best chance was presented and charges, which were suggested, could have been filed. By allowing many of the Gob’s their retirements instead of terminations caused more problems. Some of them are still around, some fled out of state, and some were promoted. It has led many to having a lack of confidence and memories of the corrupt old days.

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:39:50 +0000

hopeful: What would be enough?

By: hopeful

hopeful — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:35:23 +0000

not paid enough if you ask me, given what patrol deputies and sargeants have to put up with–it’s a tough job.

By: Tail Wags Dog

Tail Wags Dog — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:45:29 +0000

Thank you Sheriff and Under Sheriff for taking the bull by the horns to curb spending and cut out the inherited corruption in your agency. It appears on the surface the City of Placerville my be watching your example of good administration. City leaders have begun an investigation into the Placerville Police Department shenanigans. Watch here, http://youtu.be/EMsQdCnUCEc

By: Evelyn

Evelyn — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:32:01 +0000

It’s reassuring to know that people at the top of the heap don’t have to struggle to pay their monthly water and sewer accounts.

By: James Smith

James Smith — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:00:36 +0000

El Dorado Sheriff/Coroner/Public Administration $321,496 $346,482 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Captain $185,369 $208,959 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Captain $179,008 $202,598 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Lieutenant $171,909 $184,175 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Lieutenant $170,695 $190,051 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Lieutenant $167,497 $180,300 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Lieutenant $164,589 $187,839 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Lieutenant $163,370 $186,620 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Lieutenant $158,001 $180,010 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Sergeant $155,182 $178,885 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Sergeant $152,813 $179,497 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Lieutenant $152,695 $155,937 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Sergeant $152,089 $161,833 3%@50
El Dorado Sheriff’s Sergeant $146,352 $172,963 3%@50

By: Walking Tall

Walking Tall — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:31:34 +0000

OMG enough said, this is the brain trust there and we are all in trouble, so many examples of no one in charge and no knowledge. One only has to listen to what the two top dogs have to say and then you know how the corruption continues; promote the stay in line so that those at the top continue to get paid and retire at inflated rates. The tax payers association should be wondering how and what tax dollars are being spent as the Sheriff says he has 358 employees with a 53 mil budget and his US says 400 with a 56 mil, which is it? Follow the money and again we all will see who is really getting paid; recent promotions show us that nothing has changed and it has only gotten worse. Then Ray says we are held to federal standards and can grow MJ, news flash Ray it is illegal to grow under Federal Law, but then it’s Ray speaking out of turn so what do we expect. It’s true that the GOB’s are still there and the junior GOB’s are being trained to keep it going. Turn the entire county government upside down and start over with honest people and stop the bleeding.